The Jigsaw looks like a scam company, I cannot find this "start up" in PA you speak of. These are made in China by several different names (City CoCo, Fanco) and this one is pictured on those sites as an older version of a chopper they used to have but, not now, not listed for sale that I could find. Please supply contact information for this chopper scooter.
1300 miles on my CSC Monterey and loving how it rides. I did have to use green slime on both inner tubes already. The obvious throwback to the Honda super cub design makes it both stylish and comfortable to ride. It is very much like the Honda Passport I had back in college. Now if it just went as fast.
The Ola looks promising, but it doesn't have a removable battery. What I want is a scooter like Ola, but where I can buy an extra battery. Then I can carry the fully charged extra battery with me in a backpack so that I can swap it out and get double the range while I'm out driving.
The Ola S1 Pro does have a part fixed and part removable lithium-ion battery, but people in India aren't going for it as it has quality issues, especially the battery pack which tends to overheat to the point that you are no longer able to use its sport mode for more than 15 mins. Some of the scooters have also caught fire because of heat waves in India during the summer. Anyway it would be fixed by the time it comes to the US.
Of course they do. Daymark offer Lithium batteries upgrades to all their bikes. When people replace their battery on any e-Bike/ scooter ,nobody buys another lead acid battery. When I buy a replacement battery I want to get one on my own online, to make sure the battery company uses quality cell from Samsung,LG or Panasonic. I would not trust Daymark lithium upgrade with China cells. Basically buy a bike and ask if they will lower the price if you buy it without a battery and then shop for a quality battery with higher Amp/Hour rating,on your own.
The Jigsaw Chopper is a no go. I went to the website and the buy now takes you to an Indigogo campaign that is closed. Their website has no contact info.
Yeah seemed super suspicious like if the campaign is over why transfer people to a closed campaign and not stay on the website plus there’s barley and info on this
I suppose the video here did specify “a suspiciously low pre-order price.” Other comments say it was from a crowdfunding campaign, and others say there are at least two Chinese companies making bikes that either are the same or very similar… So, I guess it’s wise to be suspicious of the low price? Who knows when or if these bikes will be delivered.
While I very much like the classic Vespa styling, the Ola has my attention for capability and price point. Glad it will be available(?) stateside as it sill is not available as of this comment.
What I love about these electric scooters is that a bunch of them have more torque than a bunch of small ICE powered cars on the road, and they weigh 10 less, Torque to weight ratio is bananas, These scooters have to be electronically limited getting to speed because they should be a lot faster, 250lb scooter with 148 Lb torque Torque per tonne on that is over 1300 foot pound per tonne, hp still buns per tonne but 💁♂️
Been looking for a scooter that can do a decent speed of at least 60 MPH large tires extra wide wouldn't hurt my feelings a bit and be able to go at least 120 mi on a charge and it would be nice to have a luggage rack on the back with a hutch to put things in and a way to carry a spare battery just for the purpose of case you need it it would be nice to see a scooter out there that is capable of going faster and being able to handle heels and everything like I have in West Virginia
How do the police know which ones require motorcycle licenses, Insurance and registration from the E-bikes that do not? Parked side by side you can not tell a 500w bike from a 3500 watt.
The lineup of electric sit-down scooters that are coming to the American market is getting more varied. Will these models prompt more riders to switch to e-scooters? Share your thoughts below!
The Ola seems too good to be true, the Kumpan looks good but charging significantly more than Vespa for the top-of-the-line model seems like a tough sell. Some of the others look like the gray-market crap that all the delivery drivers use here in NYC. Like cheap Chinese ICE scooters they probably won't be serviceable just a few years down the line, but cheap enough to throw away. Which of course wipes out any of the environmentally-friendly appeal.
@@Datacube specifically to the Elettrica. Their top model is $1400 more, and maybe it has performance to justify it, but what they don't have is a long-standing dealer network, and the confidence that parts and service will be available in 5 or 10 years that goes with that.
Having a dealer network is awesome but don't you think that Vespa should accelerate their electrification efforts? There are many younger companies like Niu that have far more extensive model ranges.
@@Datacube Maybe, it makes sense to introduce something at the 50cc/speed-limited part of the market, I'm surprised they haven't done a Piaggio model at least. I'm still waiting to see an EV Honda Cub too.
It's hard to judge from the US, some of these companies might be huge and I wouldn't know. It just seems bold to compete at the $7-9k price point rather than 4-5 where NIU is, you don't see Kymco and SYM try that in the ICE market.
since there is no regenerative power ability, we need hybrid scooters. hybrid would eliminate buying alot of batteries or swapping out or the argument for lithium. otherwise, you're driving a short-run hobby. how can you expect a practical person to pay big bucks for a hobby?
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Many modern scooters have regenerative braking. What do you mean by hybrid scooters? Those that run both on ICE and electric power?
Having two drive trains would increase the bulk, and most hybrids still can’t run with a dead battery. But as someone else said in the comments, a $799-$3k battery every few years is better than the price of gas over 3-5 years.
Too many of these are too damn slow. You need at least 60 mph minimum to keep up with flow of traffic on some of these busier roads in the US. My commute is only 6 miles one way, but there is a 3 lane bridge marked 45 where people routinely do 50+, a 2 lane road in front of school marked 35 where people do 50, and a 3 lane mixed residential/commercial turnpike marked 45 where people go 60. Not being able to keep up or move with ample head room could equal death on one of these slower models.
Been waiting for this for a while but to be honest none of these are as good as the EU EVs. The onyx has the best performance and it's not even considered a legal scooter since it has pedals. The BMW is too expensive. The NIU doesn't have the performance. All others are meh, not great. The best one I believe shouldve been on this list is the NIU NGT.
Same. I became interested in EVs recently (and again after the gas spike), and have been nothing but disappointed in almost all the state-side offerings. No performance, or ridiculous prices for mediocre performance (and a few decent prices for really good performance but more than I am interested in, in both cases). But looking at EU offerings, companies like Silence and Super have solid performance and price. 5k for 60 mph and 100+ mile range is pretty good. Silence even has a car version releasing this year for 8k, which would cover exceptionally hot, cold or wet weather better than the scooters. They seem like really strong choices for a second vehicle that is inexpensive and effective, maybe 1-2k on new batteries every 5+ years, instead of spending like 3k-5k/year on fuel. (Figure 5$/gallon, 15 gallon tank / fill, 5 fill-ups a month, 12 months/year = 4500$). Other costs should be much lower too. Just sad and frustrating.
I'm sorry but it isn't much use to just read spec sheets - those numbers are BS. Acceleration is sometimes less than half what manufacturers claim. There are other channels doing actual tests (tho still watch out for pay-for-praise 'reviewers').
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Our videos serve as a quick news roundups and guides for those who need a list of models that are available in a certain EV class. You can use our information for further research (including videos of actual walkarounds and test rides)
lol I have been converting my vintage Italian Scooters to electric for 20 years and for extremely low prices. My Scooters are faster than BMW's Motorad lol. we use 72v system, 419 nm torque, 50 degree incline ability climbing, 5kw motor hub 0-100 kph in 2 seconds, top speed of 180 kph, fast charge 15%-85% in 14 minutes on standard 110-120 v outlet. .Come talk to me when you offer that for less than 4000 usd. and all the scooters you are showing have been available in North America for the last 5 years so you're way behind bud.
Hello, thank you for your feedback. With specifications that you are describing, your scooters would become an instant hit. So you should just mass produce them and become obscenely rich. It would be also nice to know the weight of your scooter, since you got a 0-60 mph acceleration in 2 seconds from just a 5kw motor.
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Thank you so much this is very much what I've been looking for. Only the Ola comes close to my needs.
Hello, thank you for your feedback. Glad it was helpful!
The Jigsaw looks like a scam company, I cannot find this "start up" in PA you speak of. These are made in China by several different names (City CoCo, Fanco) and this one is pictured on those sites as an older version of a chopper they used to have but, not now, not listed for sale that I could find. Please supply contact information for this chopper scooter.
Very good, but you should have a comparison chart of all model price levels for each & their performances at the end for future reviews.
Thanks for your feedback
1300 miles on my CSC Monterey and loving how it rides. I did have to use green slime on both inner tubes already. The obvious throwback to the Honda super cub design makes it both stylish and comfortable to ride. It is very much like the Honda Passport I had back in college. Now if it just went as fast.
The Ola looks promising, but it doesn't have a removable battery. What I want is a scooter like Ola, but where I can buy an extra battery. Then I can carry the fully charged extra battery with me in a backpack so that I can swap it out and get double the range while I'm out driving.
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Have you checked scooters like Niu and Vmoto Soco?
The Ola S1 Pro does have a part fixed and part removable lithium-ion battery, but people in India aren't going for it as it has quality issues, especially the battery pack which tends to overheat to the point that you are no longer able to use its sport mode for more than 15 mins. Some of the scooters have also caught fire because of heat waves in India during the summer. Anyway it would be fixed by the time it comes to the US.
Hells yeah! I'm all about PEV's baby. Cheers!
already have niu, love this e-scooter
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Which Niu model do you own?
@@Datacube i ride niu gova 03, maybe not sale on europe region
Yes, we don't recall seeing the Gova models neither in Europe, nor in the US.
I have a hunch getir delivery here in Chicago uses the niu
I think the lead acid battery of the Daymak scooter,is it's Achilles heal, unless they can incorporate an alternator.
Hello, thanks for your feedback. The li-ion option would be a good thing to have
Of course they do.
Daymark offer Lithium batteries upgrades to all their bikes.
When people replace their battery on any e-Bike/ scooter ,nobody buys another lead acid battery.
When I buy a replacement battery I want to get one on my own online, to make sure the battery company uses quality cell from Samsung,LG or Panasonic. I would not trust Daymark lithium upgrade with China cells.
Basically buy a bike and ask if they will lower the price if you buy it without a battery and then shop for a quality battery with higher Amp/Hour rating,on your own.
Waiting for that Ola S1!!!
Seems like the best deal for sure.
Me too..and it's almost summer time..Hurry up OLA.
Does anyone know when the Ola S1 will be available?
@@perpetualscreaming no idea.
I'm from India and here ola sale is supermassive. This scooter is like super bike. And this scooter Design is so impressive 🤩
I got a Niu, it seems to be the best choice here in Canada but still the range of these scooters are low
It would seem BMW is the electric scooter of electric scooters. Anything from Ducati?
The Jigsaw Chopper is a no go. I went to the website and the buy now takes you to an Indigogo campaign that is closed. Their website has no contact info.
I searched for more info on the project but found nothing.
Yeah seemed super suspicious like if the campaign is over why transfer people to a closed campaign and not stay on the website plus there’s barley and info on this
I suppose the video here did specify “a suspiciously low pre-order price.” Other comments say it was from a crowdfunding campaign, and others say there are at least two Chinese companies making bikes that either are the same or very similar…
So, I guess it’s wise to be suspicious of the low price? Who knows when or if these bikes will be delivered.
45mph, 12" or larger wheels, $3k. Build it and they will come. 20-30mph scooters here in the US are useless.
The CSC Monterey looks suspiciously like a Honda Super Cub. Did they contract with them for that look?
While I very much like the classic Vespa styling, the Ola has my attention for capability and price point. Glad it will be available(?) stateside as it sill is not available as of this comment.
What I love about these electric scooters is that a bunch of them have more torque than a bunch of small ICE powered cars on the road, and they weigh 10 less,
Torque to weight ratio is bananas,
These scooters have to be electronically limited getting to speed because they should be a lot faster,
250lb scooter with 148 Lb torque
Torque per tonne on that is over 1300 foot pound per tonne, hp still buns per tonne but 💁♂️
@5:00 how to get 2 people on a single seater?
The Monterey looks like a Honda supercub. In my town speeds are 50 mph in certain spots. Speeds are never 30 mph here that I remember.
Thanks for the video! I've been trying to find out if any emopeds use CVT drives between the motor and rear wheel...
I can't find websites for half of these brands in the us
A very good experience!
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Been looking for a scooter that can do a decent speed of at least 60 MPH large tires extra wide wouldn't hurt my feelings a bit and be able to go at least 120 mi on a charge and it would be nice to have a luggage rack on the back with a hutch to put things in and a way to carry a spare battery just for the purpose of case you need it it would be nice to see a scooter out there that is capable of going faster and being able to handle heels and everything like I have in West Virginia
I still can’t find niu sit down scooters in the us is there any tips to get one shipped to me
Hello, thank you for your feedback. It looks like Zoom Scooters has them available?
@@Datacube thanks a bunch I wish some of those super cool ones would be available too but hey watcha gonna do markets not completely there yet
I would like to see a pop up back support for the first bike shown,
Hello, thanks for your feedback. It's an interesting idea.
Need web site
Hello, thanks for your feedback. To the manufacturers?
How hot do the exhaust pipes get? Asking for a friend.
🤣🤣🤣
Where are the big manufacturer names?
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Big names? Like Yamaha?
@@Datacube Yamaha, Honda and others are absolutely silent on U.S. manufacturing of EV mopeds.
Do these require a license?
Hello, thank you for your comment. It depends on your location, but in most cases - yes.
How do the police know which ones require motorcycle licenses, Insurance and registration from the E-bikes that do not?
Parked side by side you can not tell a 500w bike from a 3500 watt.
If asked just show them ur manual book your moped comes with
Ola and ather
Thanks for your feedback
The lineup of electric sit-down scooters that are coming to the American market is getting more varied. Will these models prompt more riders to switch to e-scooters? Share your thoughts below!
The Ola seems too good to be true, the Kumpan looks good but charging significantly more than Vespa for the top-of-the-line model seems like a tough sell. Some of the others look like the gray-market crap that all the delivery drivers use here in NYC. Like cheap Chinese ICE scooters they probably won't be serviceable just a few years down the line, but cheap enough to throw away. Which of course wipes out any of the environmentally-friendly appeal.
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Got a question about your remark about Kumpan. Are you comparing it to an electric or an ICE Vespa?
@@Datacube specifically to the Elettrica. Their top model is $1400 more, and maybe it has performance to justify it, but what they don't have is a long-standing dealer network, and the confidence that parts and service will be available in 5 or 10 years that goes with that.
Having a dealer network is awesome but don't you think that Vespa should accelerate their electrification efforts? There are many younger companies like Niu that have far more extensive model ranges.
@@Datacube Maybe, it makes sense to introduce something at the 50cc/speed-limited part of the market, I'm surprised they haven't done a Piaggio model at least. I'm still waiting to see an EV Honda Cub too.
It's hard to judge from the US, some of these companies might be huge and I wouldn't know. It just seems bold to compete at the $7-9k price point rather than 4-5 where NIU is, you don't see Kymco and SYM try that in the ICE market.
since there is no regenerative power ability, we need hybrid scooters. hybrid would eliminate buying alot of batteries or swapping out or the argument for lithium. otherwise, you're driving a short-run hobby. how can you expect a practical person to pay big bucks for a hobby?
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Many modern scooters have regenerative braking. What do you mean by hybrid scooters? Those that run both on ICE and electric power?
Having two drive trains would increase the bulk, and most hybrids still can’t run with a dead battery.
But as someone else said in the comments, a $799-$3k battery every few years is better than the price of gas over 3-5 years.
Well, I guess Segway-Ninebot is not qualify as in American market
were is Gogoro
they are expensive. maybe if govt gave a rebate then that would help
Too many of these are too damn slow. You need at least 60 mph minimum to keep up with flow of traffic on some of these busier roads in the US. My commute is only 6 miles one way, but there is a 3 lane bridge marked 45 where people routinely do 50+, a 2 lane road in front of school marked 35 where people do 50, and a 3 lane mixed residential/commercial turnpike marked 45 where people go 60. Not being able to keep up or move with ample head room could equal death on one of these slower models.
Hello, thank you for your feedback. There are some models like this. Have you checked out NIU MQi GT EVO?
Been waiting for this for a while but to be honest none of these are as good as the EU EVs. The onyx has the best performance and it's not even considered a legal scooter since it has pedals. The BMW is too expensive. The NIU doesn't have the performance. All others are meh, not great. The best one I believe shouldve been on this list is the NIU NGT.
A 4 kw motor for the NIU would get it to a comfortable 45. My question on all of these is the heat of the southwest on battery performance.
Same.
I became interested in EVs recently (and again after the gas spike), and have been nothing but disappointed in almost all the state-side offerings.
No performance, or ridiculous prices for mediocre performance (and a few decent prices for really good performance but more than I am interested in, in both cases).
But looking at EU offerings, companies like Silence and Super have solid performance and price. 5k for 60 mph and 100+ mile range is pretty good.
Silence even has a car version releasing this year for 8k, which would cover exceptionally hot, cold or wet weather better than the scooters.
They seem like really strong choices for a second vehicle that is inexpensive and effective, maybe 1-2k on new batteries every 5+ years, instead of spending like 3k-5k/year on fuel. (Figure 5$/gallon, 15 gallon tank / fill, 5 fill-ups a month, 12 months/year = 4500$). Other costs should be much lower too.
Just sad and frustrating.
Jigsaw Chopper Scooter looks like out of business..
I'm sorry but it isn't much use to just read spec sheets - those numbers are BS. Acceleration is sometimes less than half what manufacturers claim. There are other channels doing actual tests (tho still watch out for pay-for-praise 'reviewers').
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Our videos serve as a quick news roundups and guides for those who need a list of models that are available in a certain EV class. You can use our information for further research (including videos of actual walkarounds and test rides)
Anything under 50 miles an hour it’s pointless
lol I have been converting my vintage Italian Scooters to electric for 20 years and for extremely low prices. My Scooters are faster than BMW's Motorad lol. we use 72v system, 419 nm torque, 50 degree incline ability climbing, 5kw motor hub 0-100 kph in 2 seconds, top speed of 180 kph, fast charge 15%-85% in 14 minutes on standard 110-120 v outlet. .Come talk to me when you offer that for less than 4000 usd. and all the scooters you are showing have been available in North America for the last 5 years so you're way behind bud.
Hello, thank you for your feedback. With specifications that you are describing, your scooters would become an instant hit. So you should just mass produce them and become obscenely rich. It would be also nice to know the weight of your scooter, since you got a 0-60 mph acceleration in 2 seconds from just a 5kw motor.
Wait until Yamaha does it right.
Honda has the hybrid PCX 150 but not sold in USA
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Onyx ceo is toxic. So is some of their user base.
Beating telsa ? Don't be ridiculous
No Z.E.V.?
Hello, thanks for your feedback.
I'm calling BS.
None of these scooters ever appear in the USA.
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Some models are indeed on sale.
Get to the point...
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Hello, thanks for your feedback. What do you mean?
The beginning... You need an explanation?
Bro I didn't know BMW was an American company 😂
Hello, thanks for your feedback. The video is not about American companies. It's about models that are likely to become available on the USA market.
Most UGLY design!
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Don't they look like regular ICE scooters?
This list sucks!!! All imports except 1
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Did we miss any US-made models?
Many of them look cheap and nasty plastic crap, the onyx is the only one i would have.
Hello, thanks for sharing
rebuilt these ugly mopeds again and again
Need web site