Why abandoning Mongolia was the best decision in Chinese history?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @avrinrose5457
    @avrinrose5457 Год назад +5

    Can you talk about Malaysia?

    • @SamuelHaokip14
      @SamuelHaokip14 2 месяца назад +1

      No offense but, what's there to talk about Malaysia accept the hot temperature..

  • @cobanus2862
    @cobanus2862 5 месяцев назад +4

    Mongolia went from world conquest to little buffer state for real powers lol

    • @Catser0024
      @Catser0024 4 месяца назад

      I gonna show you how great I am

    • @Catser0024
      @Catser0024 4 месяца назад

      Your location?

  • @stevewang2
    @stevewang2 8 месяцев назад +14

    Mongolia should reunite with motherland China to enjoy the same prosperity as Inner Mongolia.

    • @MongolBolgoy
      @MongolBolgoy 7 месяцев назад

      Prosperity as in getting your ancestral lands forcefully taken and given to han chinese settlers who will never see the value of the land and only use it , losing your identity getting your language writing system culture banned by the han chinese government

    • @MongolBolgoy
      @MongolBolgoy 7 месяцев назад +2

      Mongolians won't even have the "prosperity" as the rich and prosperous people are han chinese

    • @GobiHorizons
      @GobiHorizons 7 месяцев назад +2

      I think Mongolia should unite Russia and China and make a big superpower country with Mongolian as the official language?

    • @荼靡花事
      @荼靡花事 5 месяцев назад +1

      算了吧,用你的钱来养这帮二大爷啊?

    • @boiscooka232
      @boiscooka232 3 месяца назад

      ​@@GobiHorizons🤣

  • @FaisalasgFaisalasg
    @FaisalasgFaisalasg 8 дней назад +1

    Add with china become rich.

  • @zenden9
    @zenden9 Год назад +4

    So much misinfo and BS from bot. There is no such thing called Han Chinese for new PRC. Its Peoples republic of China with a majority Han population. PRC inherit the legacy of Qing dynasty territories and Qing dynasty is one of the dynasty for history of ancient China. China is helpless to counter Soviet splitting Mongolia from China. But Xinjiang is more important than Mongolia. Now proves the decision is wise since Mongolia is sandwich between Russia and China. Russian is friendly with China so they will agree any request from China against Mongolia.

  • @frigaid
    @frigaid Год назад +3

    If only the Chinese could have abandoned Mongolia during Kublai Khan's time........

    • @saintxie6730
      @saintxie6730 Год назад +1

      Lmao

    • @Maryo-wr7tv
      @Maryo-wr7tv Год назад +1

      ? what

    • @tgsrdn6308
      @tgsrdn6308 6 месяцев назад +1

      ay brother if ur talking bout history, at least do some research

    • @frigaid
      @frigaid 6 месяцев назад

      @@tgsrdn6308 do you even humour?

    • @purevjargalpuujee4845
      @purevjargalpuujee4845 4 месяца назад

      china was founded in 1949. chinese ming dynasty was conquered by Manchurian nomads and East Mongol tribes in 1644. The goal of Xinhai revolution led by Sun Yat-sen was ‘’驅逐韃虜,恢復中華‘’ which means “Expelled the Tartar enemy and restored China”. Qing was clearly not china.

  • @alexhu5491
    @alexhu5491 Год назад +29

    70% of Mongolians live in China, gain independence Mongolia has become one of the poorest countries in the world, Gdp Inner Mongolia is 20 times higher than that of Outer Mongolia

    • @amaraabatbayar9564
      @amaraabatbayar9564 Год назад +12

      Countries does not exist for wealth but to live by their own way independently, that is a true happiness. Not every country can be a rich, otherwise people can sell their territory for money, need to understand this common sense.

    • @alexhu5491
      @alexhu5491 Год назад +8

      @@amaraabatbayar9564 Mongolia is a buffer state created by the Soviet. The Mongols of Outer Mongolia don't even know how to write Mongolian characters, they use Russian alphabet. Maybe you're right, for me money doesn't buy happiness, but lack of money certainly buys misery

    • @Maryo-wr7tv
      @Maryo-wr7tv Год назад +3

      @@alexhu5491 Mongolian younger generations have been learning traditional from 6th grade since 90s. But don't you feel ashamed lol. Your GREAT leader Mao Zedong almost changed the character into latin (pinyin). Lucky that Japanese had figured the way of putting character into computer.
      maybe you are just really bored. lol. Sorry if i offended you

    • @alexhu5491
      @alexhu5491 Год назад +5

      @@Maryo-wr7tv Don't cry, we can see these years you have suffered too much Chinese bullying, your country's fault is too weak 💔🤣

    • @Maryo-wr7tv
      @Maryo-wr7tv Год назад +2

      @@alexhu5491 yeah it is our fault of not shamelessly claiming others culture and not claiming foreign emperors. Am i right?

  • @annoyingtuguldur8689
    @annoyingtuguldur8689 Год назад +3

    stop ediottt

  • @klausrainherz4605
    @klausrainherz4605 3 месяца назад

    People who have never been to Mongolia, the information is too bad news, lol

  • @WingHongCheng-k7q
    @WingHongCheng-k7q 5 месяцев назад +1

    Mongolia is a war buffer zone there is no point to keep and develop a high risk potential war zone so give up this land is the best choice

  • @BanzodoAndarilho
    @BanzodoAndarilho 2 месяца назад

    China never abandoned Mongolia. They were routed, totally defeated and humiliated by the German-Russian Baron Roman Ungern-Sternberg in 1921. That incident brought in the Soviet Army who was in hot pursuit of the anti-communist Baron and his White Army that wanted to oust the communist Jewish government that usurped power in Moscow. Mongols took the chance to declare themselves a Socialist Republic ( they didn't even know what that meant then ) which checkmated the Soviets and forced them to stay to build a socialist Mongolia and keep the China threat away. Whoever made this video is a master of ignorance and imbecility. STUDY! That, sometimes, leads to learning.

  • @AKIRA_0322
    @AKIRA_0322 2 месяца назад

    0:44 Neither was part of the other. Both of them were in Manjin Dominion. Next time study your sources carefully.

    • @云君-b2w
      @云君-b2w 2 дня назад

      You don’t understand that when the ruler of the Qing Dynasty defeated all the enemies of Mongolia, the original text of his national edict was: From now on, all the traditional nomadic Mongolian lands belong to China (the empire in the center of the world). The empire will no longer be harassed by nomads. The Manchus, Hans, and Mongols were all subjects of the imperial emperor. The rulers of the Qing Dynasty did not base their rule on a simple national narrative. Instead, the emperor's power was above all else, including any nation.

  • @yangdaoy
    @yangdaoy 2 месяца назад

    It is better to just buy their resources rather than pay for their welfare. Chinese pay a huge amount of money for Tibetan welfare.

  • @vasheed
    @vasheed 9 месяцев назад

    First time looking at how to flag a video as misinformation propaganda.

  • @onereal-y3w
    @onereal-y3w 3 месяца назад

    🇹🇼🐉🇹🇼: Mongolia was part of Yuan Dinasty

    • @jhonunderthewater61
      @jhonunderthewater61 3 месяца назад

      😂

    • @AKIRA_0322
      @AKIRA_0322 2 месяца назад +2

      My friend, Yuan Dynasty was Mongolian itself.

    • @lyttlebee
      @lyttlebee 15 дней назад

      @@AKIRA_0322 actually the founder of Yuan considered Yuan as a Chinese Dynasty, a separate state from Mogolian Empire.

    • @Adolf-f1i
      @Adolf-f1i 10 дней назад

      How uneducated are the promising "Great China"

  • @villiamfangy6205
    @villiamfangy6205 Месяц назад

    Mongolian navy is the strongest raaahhhhh 😤

  • @lightyear4355
    @lightyear4355 4 месяца назад

    Hong kong pe China julm kar raha hai😨

  • @annoyingtuguldur8689
    @annoyingtuguldur8689 Год назад

    video have mistake

  • @annoyingtuguldur8689
    @annoyingtuguldur8689 Год назад

    use wrong pictures

  • @Pew7070
    @Pew7070 Год назад +8

    Chinese propaganda shhhhht

    • @purevjargalpuujee4845
      @purevjargalpuujee4845 4 месяца назад

      There are even Russians among the 56 nationalities. By chinese logic Russian Empire too chinese ? Omg they so cute.

    • @timinghourglass58
      @timinghourglass58 2 месяца назад

      ​@@purevjargalpuujee4845 那些俄罗斯族人是因为俄罗斯革命,沙俄崩溃后逃到中国境内的,后来绝大多数都去了其他地方,但有一部分留了下来

  • @painyt850
    @painyt850 4 месяца назад +1

    china was part of mongolia ) also chinese are built great wall for smth )

    • @purevjargalpuujee4845
      @purevjargalpuujee4845 4 месяца назад

      china was founded in 1949. chinese ming dynasty was conquered by Manchurian nomads and East Mongol tribes in 1644. The goal of Xinhai revolution led by Sun Yat-sen was ‘’驅逐韃虜,恢復中華‘’ which means “Expelled the Tartar enemy and restored China”. Qing was clearly not china.

    • @sdfjksh1324
      @sdfjksh1324 2 месяца назад

      @@purevjargalpuujee4845 Its a slogan to bring unity to overthrow the Monarch. The monarch of Qing and all its officials consider themself to be Chinese.

    • @villiamfangy6205
      @villiamfangy6205 Месяц назад

      built great wall to defend against manchurian tribes, xianbei, khitan, etc. It did it's job for the most part until Genghis Khan went around the wall or a chinese general straight up opened the wall up for the manchus to invade because of resentment against the ming.

    • @Adolf-f1i
      @Adolf-f1i 10 дней назад

      Bro forget the very first reason they build the wall of china
      the great china you call was dominated by Mongol empire so hard they built those

  • @hsh2292
    @hsh2292 Год назад +15

    Why did you say Mongolia was part of China in early 19th century? It was part of Qing dynasty which was owned by Manchurians not Han Chinese.

    • @alexhu5491
      @alexhu5491 Год назад +17

      Very Korean, perhaps for you China only belongs to the Han ethnic group, China is made up of 56 ethnic groups, 56 ethnic groups form one large family

    • @alexhu5491
      @alexhu5491 Год назад +9

      I am Manchu, I am not Chinese, I am your father..... 🤣

    • @hsh2292
      @hsh2292 Год назад

      @@alexhu5491 very Chinese. I can be Japanese. Maybe your communist government doesn't teach you the right history after the culture revolution killing all the historians 😂 You can call your Ming China not Qing China. China belongs to Han not minority like you.

    • @alexhu5491
      @alexhu5491 Год назад +4

      @@hsh2292 21st century USA colony this is what to brag about 🤣

    • @thunglo143
      @thunglo143 Год назад +6

      Who said Chinese are only han Chinese

  • @EmpinitLLCEmpinittrade
    @EmpinitLLCEmpinittrade Год назад +5

    Bro, you have no knowledge of Mongolian and Chinese history, you said that Mongolia was part of China but IN FACT, There was an empire called the Qing dynasty by Manchurians WHO WERE NOT CHINESE AT ALL(A completely different nation). EVEN CHINA BELONGED TO THIS DYNASTY. So that's where you're wrong.

    • @alexhu5491
      @alexhu5491 Год назад +6

      I am Manchu , I am Chinese

    • @thunglo143
      @thunglo143 Год назад

      Manchu,han,zhu,nu,aka all are Chinese lol are u Manchurian?

    • @LyuChen94
      @LyuChen94 6 месяцев назад +1

      Qian long emperor said “中华统续不绝如线” last Xuan Tong emperor(Puyi)said “我是中国皇帝. 我是中国人”
      you say they are not Chinese
      Emperors:WTF
      😂😂😂

    • @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane
      @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane 4 месяца назад

      LoL. There are FAR MORE ethnic Mongols living in China than there are in Mongolia.

    • @purevjargalpuujee4845
      @purevjargalpuujee4845 4 месяца назад +1

      @@alexhu5491 china was founded in 1949. chinese ming dynasty was conquered by Manchurian nomads and East Mongol tribes in 1644. The goal of Xinhai revolution led by Sun Yat-sen was ‘’驅逐韃虜,恢復中華‘’ which means “Expelled the Tartar enemy and restored China”. Qing was clearly not china.

  • @annoyingtuguldur8689
    @annoyingtuguldur8689 Год назад

    it s ch

  • @MrTTuguldur
    @MrTTuguldur Год назад +6

    Noo, this is where it goes wrong. Mongolia was part of Manchu Qing, Manchus are nomadic people initially. Mongolia wasn’t part of China. Manchus later became Chinese culturally and assimilated into Chinese. But Mongolia and China both sought its independence from the Manchu Qing empire.

    • @alexhu5491
      @alexhu5491 Год назад +5

      Explain to me the difference between Manchu and Chinese,
      21st century the Manchus are not Chinese? Perhaps for you China only belongs to the Han ethnic group, China is made up of 56 ethnic groups, 56 ethnic groups form one large family

    • @alexhu5491
      @alexhu5491 Год назад +1

      70% of Mongolians live in China. Do you think they are Mongolians or Chinese?The Mongols of Outer Mongolia hope Inner Mongolia will gain independence from China. Inner Mongolians love to be Chinese,Gdp Inner Mongolia is 20 times higher than that of Outer Mongolia. Get independence and go eat sand in the Gobi desert lol

    • @MrTTuguldur
      @MrTTuguldur Год назад

      @@alexhu5491 yes it’s true. I will explain you. Manchus are non ethnic Chinese people. They were nomads. But later in the 19 century they became Chinese. Now China has many different ethnicities inside. It’s what Chinese wanted. Assimilate everything and everyone into their culture and into their country.

    • @Maryo-wr7tv
      @Maryo-wr7tv Год назад

      @@alexhu5491 he probably meant the 'original' founders of Qing were Manchu people. Which who are almost fully Sinicized to the Chinese.
      And whoa, 70% of Mongols live in china? what bs. 3 million Mongols in Mongolia. 700000 Mongols in Russia and 5 million Mongols in China.
      Of 5 million how many can speak Mongolian? How many owns a deel? I would be surprised if the number reaches 2 million. Now limiting the study of Mongolian in Inner Mongolia would plunge the number to go even lower.
      Get independence and go eat sand? lmao. Who was poorer 80 years ago?
      living conditions were basically same 15 years ago.
      We wouldn't had to go through cultural revolution. WoW we are so Lucky unlike your grandparents in china lmao.

    • @alexhu5491
      @alexhu5491 Год назад +4

      @@Maryo-wr7tv I unknowingly hurt your heart, please don't cry, 2023 7.3 million Chinese ethnic Mongolians live in China

  • @Ruzberry
    @Ruzberry 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is PROPAGANDA. Mongolia was not part of China. The Qing Dynasty, led by the Manchurians, who were a separate ethnic group from the Chinese, controlled both China and Mongolia. It is essential to note that Mongolia was under the rule of the Manchu Qing, rather than being directly integrated into China. Initially, the Manchus were nomadic people. While the Manchus eventually assimilated into Chinese culture, both Mongolia and China aspired to gain independence from the Manchu Qing Empire.

    • @_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._
      @_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._ 6 месяцев назад

      🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡cry abt it. Mongolia poor af 🤮🤮🤮

    • @jiandongzhuang5636
      @jiandongzhuang5636 6 месяцев назад +1

      You are totally wrong. Chinese people include ethnic Manchu, ethnic Han and 54 other ethnic groups. Qing dynasty was called China by foreign country. Qing dynasty was ruled by ethnic Manchu. Morden China is ruled by ethnic Han. So Qing dynasty was China and morden China is China as well. Do not make a mistake please.

    • @LyuChen94
      @LyuChen94 6 месяцев назад +1

      why you say I'm not Chinese? I'm Manchu Mongol Han mix. Can you represent me? do I need you to represent me?
      just check out who said this word:中华统续不绝如线. do you think your words are more convincing than his?😂😂😂

    • @user-DontYouDare
      @user-DontYouDare 5 месяцев назад

      @@jiandongzhuang5636Manchu Language isn’t related to any other Chinese language. Chinese called them barbarian even though Koreans also called them as well😂 I know China was the racist in history(still). They always choose dirty and meaning low life word to name neighbor countries

    • @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane
      @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane 4 месяца назад

      LoL. There are FAR MORE ethnic Mongols living in China than there are in Mongolia.

  • @anarshagdarjaav9506
    @anarshagdarjaav9506 Месяц назад

    what the false information, lol

  • @MrTTuguldur
    @MrTTuguldur Год назад +4

    There are few information that indicated here are false. But overall Chinese have no claim over Mongolia due to both Mongolia and China was part of Manchu Qing. Manchus are no ethnic Han Chinese people. Mongolia was independent through out its history.

    • @80130723
      @80130723 Год назад +6

      China has 56 ethnic, they are all chinese. Not only han people are chinese. And the Qing dynasty is one of the many dynasties of China.

    • @_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._
      @_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._ 6 месяцев назад

      Dumb smart-arse

    • @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane
      @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane 4 месяца назад

      LoL. There are FAR MORE ethnic Mongols living in China than there are in Mongolia.

    • @purevjargalpuujee4845
      @purevjargalpuujee4845 4 месяца назад

      @@80130723 So by your logic Yuan dynasty too chinese ? Even Mongol Empire ? There are even Russians among the 56 nationalities. By your logic Russian Empire too chinese ?

  • @stdona
    @stdona Год назад +2

    Your information is false Qing Dynasty was not the chinese or neither mongolian.Nomad people named Manchu who united with inner mongols and defeat china and outer mongolia created empire named Qing dynasty.China and Mongolia either part of Qing dynasty.In 1911 people of republic china and mongolia succecfully revolt against Qing dynasty.

    • @LyuChen94
      @LyuChen94 6 месяцев назад

      just check out who said this :中华统续不绝如线. if you think you can argue with he. I'm very curios what gonna happen if you say this to him like you are not Chinese your country is not China 😂😂😂

    • @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane
      @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane 4 месяца назад

      LoL. There are FAR MORE ethnic Mongols living in China than there are in Mongolia.

    • @purevjargalpuujee4845
      @purevjargalpuujee4845 4 месяца назад

      @@LyuChen94 So by your logic Yuan dynasty too chinese ? Even Mongol Empire ? There are even Russians among the 56 nationalities. By your logic Russian Empire too chinese ?

    • @LyuChen94
      @LyuChen94 4 месяца назад

      @@purevjargalpuujee4845 The Yuan Dynasty was undoubtedly a Chinese dynasty, because it was Kublai Khan who decided to take over the legal rule of China, and his territory, the Yuan Dynasty, was China, but besides being the emperor of China, he was also the emperor of the Great Mongol Empire, so the Chinese people had a very clear distinction between the Great Mongol Empire and the Yuan Dynasty, which was China and the largest khanate in the Great Mongol Empire. Although it was part of the Great Mongol Empire, it was nominally at best, there was hostility between khanates, and in general the various khanates were separate from each other, and as for the former Russian principalities, which were ruled by the Golden Horde, they had nothing to do with us, The civil and military systems of the various Khanates did not communicate with each other, nor even with most Mongols, so the relationship basically remained within the Golden family. It seems that you look down on farmers, but it's a pity that nomads are doomed to fail in this era. Looking around the world, who would have thought that the people with the highest quality of life and the highest level of education are the Chinese Mongols, and perhaps there are Manchus in Mongolia and Russia, I don't know, nor am I interested in knowing, I only know that most Manchus are in China. It seems like more than half of the Mongols are also in China. Besides, if you want to pursue pure blood race, then you have to separate the Mongols from the Manchus, the Manchus are mainly O2 gene, unlike the Mongols, the Mongols also don't like the Qing Dynasty, the decreasing population of the Mongols was the policy of the Qing Dynasty, also you have to look at the Mongols who stayed in West and South and Central Asia, Their Mongolian DNA is getting weaker. Mongols and Manchus in China are doing just fine and don't need your attention. So put away your poor national chauvinism. If you are a citizen of Mongolia. First, think about how to improve the quality of life for your people. If you are a Russian citizen and also a minority ethnic group in Russia. Could you please think about it first. How to keep your Russian compatriots alive on the battlefield? After all, the fewer they die, the less likely you are to go to the battlefield

  • @bjvlogsss6841
    @bjvlogsss6841 2 месяца назад +1

    Propaganda of china

  • @bilguuteidorj3949
    @bilguuteidorj3949 18 дней назад

    Why did you say Mongolia was part of China in early 19th century? It was part of Qing dynasty which was owned by Manchurians not Han Chinese.