Personally, I have so much respect for the Commander, he is holding the burden of so many dead over himself, he stayed calm when everyone else panicked, he tried to let everyone in, but knew he couldn't. He may not seem like one, but he is a hero, he did all he could, and now, instead of biting a bullet, he plays the cards life dealt him.
I believe everyone would be mad at him for leaving out all these people, wanting to hit him, even kill him. But from his perspective he had his orders, you have x time until the nukes hit and you must close the doors. If those doors wouldn't close everyone in the station would be doomed anyway so he, as I'm certain, closed the doors to the last second. Apart from saving the people in the station folks consider him a traitor, maybe, but I don't ,specially from the guilt he has from his actions.
in real life the commander has got most chance of becoming the leader of an entire station/faction in metro, since he command all the guns from day 1 of post-apocalypse, all he gotta do is execute a few 'rebellious survivors' to send a signal to the people, declaring his men as the only authority standing. In an extreme and sealed environment like that, such things come easy.
Dogy K He may well have been in the first few years after the War back when the Metro was run by a central administration called Central Metro Command which kept order through promises that the Russian government would soon return from the President's bunker under the Urals to rebuild. But, it quickly fell apart and the Metro became the factionalized mess we know and love when it became abundantly clear to the Metro's unfortunate denizens that Russia was not rising from the ashes.
Dogy K Actually,this what you are describing was in book.I cant tell for sure in which one,but i guess in 2034.That guy who was kicked out of station and lived with his daughter in the tunnels was some kind of commander and at beginning was in charge of some station.There was an revolt and he did not say order to his men to kill survivors and they exiled him
Он и был лидером станции по книге но за него были только военные которых было мало и когда начался бунт он мог отдать приказ на силовое решение и подавление бунта но не хотел проливать кровь... По этому его отправили в изгнание с дочкой ...
Dogy K O thought the guy was supposed to be the guy who raised Artyom who’s in the first game. He’s still a leader of a group that’s allied with the Spartans and Riga.
Yes, I am sure everyone agrees that he is no bad person. After all he closes the door only 5-10 seconds until the nukes hit. If you think about it, that is a pretty small period of time!
F in the chat for this guy, he didn't deserve to be tolerated like that, he saved a lot of people, if he waited any longer everyone would be dead, really dark and deep, this game is really immersive and shows you the world from a real perspective where life is cruel and hard in the tunnels, f in the chat for this guy true hero, but no one appreciated that
A new game in the Metro series is in development, and a movie is also being made, both are under the guidance and control of the original writer who has always been involved with his work being adapted. I post this in 2023 for all the fans that love Metro.
There were survivors in the Metro systems of St Petersburg and Minsk. The countryside away from the cities that got hit is also faring a great deal better. The air is breathable, the mutants are much smaller and it is possible to grow crops and raise children without too much risk from radiation provided you steer well clear of radiation fallout. Earth is still in a nuclear winter but Humanity has doubtless survived elsewhere. Listen to the background conversations in the game or read the books.
It's great story writing when you can easily see both sides of the event: being able to connect with both the survivors and their hatred for him closing the doors, and his reasons and inner-pain for following protocol and leaving so many outside... He may have followed orders, but that didn't mean he wanted to.
It seems to be a spin-off of artyom's dad, since in the book the mother also handed a baby to a officer who saved it and left her behind, in the first live action trailer you can also see the mother singing a song to the baby before the nukes, and at the end the song is playing when the ranger stands in the tunnel, which is most likely artyom.
Rationality is what makes or breaks nations and helps people throw the hard times and the fact is that in this sitution had I been the Metro commander I would have done the exact same thing.''
This gives me chills everytime I see it! If they're really producing the Metro 2033 movie, I hope it has that "dark and creepy" looks in all the scenes,just like this, damm I really can't wait for an official trailer.
Only when we are not having ourselves involved in the catastrophy, can we understand him and how difficult it was for him to make the decision: Close the Gate.
Kudos to you for being the first intelligent person to post such an observant and logical statement on RUclips. You have my completer and utter respect because let's be honest. How many other people would have thought of that?
Actually in the book Artyom lived with his mother in a station until it got overrun by a horde of rats. Artyom's mother then handed him to Alexei/Sukhoi (Artyom's stepfather) who was on the last railcart to Exhibition just before she was devoured. So no, the baby in this isn't Artyom. In the behind the scenes video they actually said that the ranger who the baby grew up to be was "based on the character of Artyom" which means it isn't him.
Damnit, I wanted the kid he saved before the doors closed to come bursting in and save him, giving him some sliver of redemption over what he did that day.
It feels to me like all these people are living in their own hell paying for the sins of their past which gives the story so much more depth. Even know the original game and book had amazing depth and are all around an awesome story.
the baby he took was Artium the main character from the games. i might have misspelled some shit but go watch the first trailer closely and she says his name
According to the book Artyom was born in an underground station(Not Exhibition) a few days before the bombs dropped and his mother passed the baby on to a man named Sukhoi. the station was completely overrun by rats(the cause of Artyoms fear of rats) and Sukhoi escaped in a railcar with Artyom and a few others while the rest wes killed. The child in the video is not Artyom.
yeah in a tunnel when the station they lived at was over run by rats. Alex was standing watch at an outpost of that station with a hand cart and she gave artyom to him, at least that's what happened in the book.
I agree, I mean, you can't save everyone.But people won't see it that way, especially those who lost loved ones. It's a shame really, the poor man is just a scapegoat for the rage and frustration of an entire city...
Could this guy be the mysterious "Prisoner" that Artyom and Khan are looking for in the game? Aside from him, my only other guess is Hunter. We never found his body or confirmed his death and he is a high ranking Polis Ranger. Undoubtedly the Red Line and the Reich would want to try and get the location to D6 or a backdoor to Polis out of him.
look at the video preview in the end, watch it in 1080. i dont say this often, i really never said it before but... it looks like reality, i first thought they just filmed real places.... wow.. just wow
If you go by the actual story of Artyoms mother in the beginning of the book, and i belive the first game. This is not Artyom due to HOW he gets taken into the metro. And since Dmitry Glukhovsky is helping write this i doubt he would allow a slip as big as that.
Maybe yeah in the game, but in the book he and his mother made it underground but she died shortly after with only arytom surviving because someone took him in.
they couldn't let anymore get in, otherwise they would die of starvation and lack of food, thats why they closed the doors. plus there where also other door entrances in moscow than that one
I know but the books and the games have separate continuity's now. At least, this is what Gluhovsky has established once it was confirmed that Metro Last Light wouldn't be following the story of the second Metro book unlike Metro 2033 which vaguely followed the story of its eponymous book.
Ну что ж вы так радикально,Алексей! Все мы проходили курс гражданской обороны, по-большей части,наверняка знаем,что основная доля рад.осадков(теоретически) сходит в первые несколько дней и убежища в московском метро не были рассчитаны на долгое проживание(собственно,Возможность проживания была описана в книге\игре-за счет постоянного подпитывания технологиями\предметами извне)...а ролики...ну, да черт с ними-постапокалипсис-фантастика же!
But the worst part is he seems to be torturing himself more then his captors, for he too is one of those emotional humans looking for someone to blame.
maybe a very great future ranger or scientist or gun maker or farmer was in the group that was abandoned, so it's a guessing game in a matter of seconds
so many questions, i still want to know who sent the nukes, and it looked as if they were ready,who was it? Why? were they at war? or was world war 3 just begining on a massive scale?
The books never mentioned him, this is just to show that life fucking sucks when the nukes hit. He is a hero because he saved these people, and was respected in the normal world, but since that world has ended.... no one is willing to listen. They just want excuses for why they are in where they are in. The best is blaming old authorities. Also everyone knows that you can only let a few in, but most don't realize the people left behind scream in pain or could be people they knew for years.
Nope. Artyom was rescued some two, three years later, but in a similar way - a soldier did take him from a running woman, but the woman was running from a rat infestation, not a nuclear blast.
easy to say now. if your sister/mother/brother/wife/husband/son/daughter was just outside, JUST an arms length away when he ordered the door closed and all you could do was watch their face as the door seals their fate. would you still say the same? " It all depends on your point of view. Try to get a better understanding of things before you make your judgement." kahn, metro 2033.
Personally, I have so much respect for the Commander, he is holding the burden of so many dead over himself, he stayed calm when everyone else panicked, he tried to let everyone in, but knew he couldn't. He may not seem like one, but he is a hero, he did all he could, and now, instead of biting a bullet, he plays the cards life dealt him.
I believe everyone would be mad at him for leaving out all these people, wanting to hit him, even kill him. But from his perspective he had his orders, you have x time until the nukes hit and you must close the doors. If those doors wouldn't close everyone in the station would be doomed anyway so he, as I'm certain, closed the doors to the last second. Apart from saving the people in the station folks consider him a traitor, maybe, but I don't ,specially from the guilt he has from his actions.
in real life the commander has got most chance of becoming the leader of an entire station/faction in metro, since he command all the guns from day 1 of post-apocalypse, all he gotta do is execute a few 'rebellious survivors' to send a signal to the people, declaring his men as the only authority standing. In an extreme and sealed environment like that, such things come easy.
Dogy K He may well have been in the first few years after the War back when the Metro was run by a central administration called Central Metro Command which kept order through promises that the Russian government would soon return from the President's bunker under the Urals to rebuild. But, it quickly fell apart and the Metro became the factionalized mess we know and love when it became abundantly clear to the Metro's unfortunate denizens that Russia was not rising from the ashes.
Dogy K Actually,this what you are describing was in book.I cant tell for sure in which one,but i guess in 2034.That guy who was kicked out of station and lived with his daughter in the tunnels was some kind of commander and at beginning was in charge of some station.There was an revolt and he did not say order to his men to kill survivors and they exiled him
Assuming that his men's family weren't left outside, then...
Он и был лидером станции по книге но за него были только военные которых было мало и когда начался бунт он мог отдать приказ на силовое решение и подавление бунта но не хотел проливать кровь... По этому его отправили в изгнание с дочкой ...
Dogy K O thought the guy was supposed to be the guy who raised Artyom who’s in the first game. He’s still a leader of a group that’s allied with the Spartans and Riga.
Yes, I am sure everyone agrees that he is no bad person. After all he closes the door only 5-10 seconds until the nukes hit. If you think about it, that is a pretty small period of time!
Well, if he had left the doors open they would have all died because a bunker with open doors is worthless.
"when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable"
Exactly.
Pretty sure this guy was based on the girl's father in the book.
F in the chat for this guy, he didn't deserve to be tolerated like that, he saved a lot of people, if he waited any longer everyone would be dead, really dark and deep, this game is really immersive and shows you the world from a real perspective where life is cruel and hard in the tunnels, f in the chat for this guy true hero, but no one appreciated that
A new game in the Metro series is in development, and a movie is also being made, both are under the guidance and control of the original writer who has always been involved with his work being adapted.
I post this in 2023 for all the fans that love Metro.
And this is why games have legitimacy as a literary form. Interpretation by the reader/viewer/player. You pose very valid insights.
Man, who ever did these live-action Metro trailers are fucking amazing! I'm pump for this game!
It's human nature to be narrow minded and ungrateful. A nuke went off a mere few seconds after he had the doors closed. He's a hero.
If you don't close the doors when the armageddon hits you're gonna have a dead time...
There were survivors in the Metro systems of St Petersburg and Minsk. The countryside away from the cities that got hit is also faring a great deal better. The air is breathable, the mutants are much smaller and it is possible to grow crops and raise children without too much risk from radiation provided you steer well clear of radiation fallout. Earth is still in a nuclear winter but Humanity has doubtless survived elsewhere. Listen to the background conversations in the game or read the books.
It's great story writing when you can easily see both sides of the event: being able to connect with both the survivors and their hatred for him closing the doors, and his reasons and inner-pain for following protocol and leaving so many outside... He may have followed orders, but that didn't mean he wanted to.
It seems to be a spin-off of artyom's dad, since in the book the mother also handed a baby to a officer who saved it and left her behind, in the first live action trailer you can also see the mother singing a song to the baby before the nukes, and at the end the song is playing when the ranger stands in the tunnel, which is most likely artyom.
Rationality is what makes or breaks nations and helps people throw the hard times and the fact is that in this sitution had I been the Metro commander I would have done the exact same thing.''
He do, what's need to be done.
Looks like I'm the only one here in 2021. *Great youtube reccomendations*
I'm here in 2024.
This gives me chills everytime I see it! If they're really producing the Metro 2033 movie, I hope it has that "dark and creepy" looks in all the scenes,just like this, damm I really can't wait for an official trailer.
umm... bad news bud.
I also hear that the oceans began to boil and the screams of the dieing faded into a deafening silence.
Эти 3 последних слова сыграны просто божественно, очень цепляет.
Only when we are not having ourselves involved in the catastrophy, can we understand him and how difficult it was for him to make the decision: Close the Gate.
Even after 20 years their hatred burns bright.
That's deep.
But then so is the decision that the Commander had to make.
Kudos to you for being the first intelligent person to post such an observant and logical statement on RUclips. You have my completer and utter respect because let's be honest. How many other people would have thought of that?
And another note: the baby wasn't artyom, he was in the metro when the nuclear strikes and adopted by a soldier by his mother who died as rat's meal.
I agree, if you listen closely you could hear the nukes hitting just after the doors shut
Alex "Uncle Sasha" Sukhoi from Exhibition station is artyoms step father. They never mentioned it in the game but he is the one who saved artyom
YES! YES! It's coming out in March! That's only three months away!
Actually in the book Artyom lived with his mother in a station until it got overrun by a horde of rats. Artyom's mother then handed him to Alexei/Sukhoi (Artyom's stepfather) who was on the last railcart to Exhibition just before she was devoured. So no, the baby in this isn't Artyom. In the behind the scenes video they actually said that the ranger who the baby grew up to be was "based on the character of Artyom" which means it isn't him.
He closed the door on the people and the people are closing the doors on his life that DOG
Poor guy, he closed the door to save everyone inside it. So relevant to the Model trailer.
If you close the doors when the armageddon hits, you're gonna have a bad time.
Damnit, I wanted the kid he saved before the doors closed to come bursting in and save him, giving him some sliver of redemption over what he did that day.
he ordered the soldier to close the door to protect the people inside the metro station.
It feels to me like all these people are living in their own hell paying for the sins of their past which gives the story so much more depth. Even know the original game and book had amazing depth and are all around an awesome story.
the baby he took was Artium the main character from the games. i might have misspelled some shit but go watch the first trailer closely and she says his name
According to the book Artyom was born in an underground station(Not Exhibition) a few days before the bombs dropped and his mother passed the baby on to a man named Sukhoi. the station was completely overrun by rats(the cause of Artyoms fear of rats) and Sukhoi escaped in a railcar with Artyom and a few others while the rest wes killed. The child in the video is not Artyom.
if you listen closely you can hear the preacher and the model
I hope that in the game you run into these characters. And they actually serve story rolls.
I think that might be the idea, the people that had the good lives now have nothing and the preacher who was mocked is now respected by everyone.
yeah in a tunnel when the station they lived at was over run by rats. Alex was standing watch at an outpost of that station with a hand cart and she gave artyom to him, at least that's what happened in the book.
no in the first LL trailer a baby was passed into the metro but the mother was refused entry. I believe we are supposed to think the baby was Artyom.
This is confusing. I thought the commander was Artyoms dad in Metro 2033? Doesn’t he create a group and become allies with Riga and the Spartans?
and now you day is wonderful...
Only 200,000 made it in the metro, and ever since a good fraction of that population has died of either disease, mutants, other humans, and so on...
Poor guy. What he did probably ensured that the people who did make it had a better chance of surviving with available resources. :/
I agree, I mean, you can't save everyone.But people won't see it that way, especially those who lost loved ones. It's a shame really, the poor man is just a scapegoat for the rage and frustration of an entire city...
I think the commander is Sasja's father in Metro 2034. He might.
And i have read the books and Artyom's mother did make it into the metro.
Could this guy be the mysterious "Prisoner" that Artyom and Khan are looking for in the game? Aside from him, my only other guess is Hunter. We never found his body or confirmed his death and he is a high ranking Polis Ranger. Undoubtedly the Red Line and the Reich would want to try and get the location to D6 or a backdoor to Polis out of him.
I think this is Alex and after this happens he steps up and leads the Exhibition to where it is in the game.
look at the video preview in the end, watch it in 1080.
i dont say this often, i really never said it before but...
it looks like reality, i first thought they just filmed real places.... wow.. just wow
It was either them or everyone the nuclear blast would have gotten into the metro and killed everyone in or outside, if he hadn't closed those doors.
It's written on the book, they were at war.
I think it was just to make it more dramatically, but heck you are right.
Your name has a certain irony to the situation
If you go by the actual story of Artyoms mother in the beginning of the book, and i belive the first game. This is not Artyom due to HOW he gets taken into the metro. And since Dmitry Glukhovsky is helping write this i doubt he would allow a slip as big as that.
Hunter is alive, at least in the Metro 2034 book.
Maybe yeah in the game, but in the book he and his mother made it underground but she died shortly after with only arytom surviving because someone took him in.
Poor commander :'c Even if he murdered like 99% of Moscow :c
***** No but they could have come...
***** There are metros ALL over russia....
***** But a lot still died.
Costin Rudei Not sure if you are both. All I know is that I am innocent and smart.
they couldn't let anymore get in, otherwise they would die of starvation and lack of food, thats why they closed the doors. plus there where also other door entrances in moscow than that one
I know but the books and the games have separate continuity's now. At least, this is what Gluhovsky has established once it was confirmed that Metro Last Light wouldn't be following the story of the second Metro book unlike Metro 2033 which vaguely followed the story of its eponymous book.
i dont believe an officer of his rank could exactly cower away no matter what happened
Thanks a lot 4A, as if this shit that you were showing us wasn't depressing enough.
These three characters can be in the multiplayer for Metro (if there's ever going to be one)
Ну что ж вы так радикально,Алексей! Все мы проходили курс гражданской обороны, по-большей части,наверняка знаем,что основная доля рад.осадков(теоретически) сходит в первые несколько дней и убежища в московском метро не были рассчитаны на долгое проживание(собственно,Возможность проживания была описана в книге\игре-за счет постоянного подпитывания технологиями\предметами извне)...а ролики...ну, да черт с ними-постапокалипсис-фантастика же!
These trailers are ridiculously good. Great job THQ/4A !
I've got a feeling that all these survivors in the trailers are gonna be side characters in the game or easter eggs or something
Would be pretty cool if the commander and the model and the preacher made an appearance in the game somewhere. :)
The book was great loved it
Sounds like a pretty legit life, bro. Enjoy your books, I guess.
That was a heavy blast door.
But the worst part is he seems to be torturing himself more then his captors, for he too is one of those emotional humans looking for someone to blame.
the preachers the only one that isn't haven't a bad time, compare to the model and the commander.
If this were to happen i would have gone insane
Screwed if he did and screwed if he didn't
where can i read online ? bcuz i guess/believe my place here doesnt sell the books
Commander Michael should regret because he is not protecting innocent civilians from nuclear attack
anyone know what greatcoat he was wearing in the shots when he was about to close the doors before the nukes hit?
Soviet uniform?
Soviet border forces greatcoat that will set you back 140 EUR
Roman Kötter this Game is an alternative History when Soviet Union didn’t fall apart. In the Game Universe it has still existed before the bombs.
Cant fucking wait for CoH 2 and метro Last Light !!!!!
I hope they do one final survivors video.
Called: "The Boy" I think everyone knows who i am talking about.
That is called the surviver game, tha didn't make sense did it?
maybe a very great future ranger or scientist or gun maker or farmer was in the group that was abandoned, so it's a guessing game in a matter of seconds
so many questions, i still want to know who sent the nukes, and it looked as if they were ready,who was it? Why? were they at war? or was world war 3 just begining on a massive scale?
That is the game itself my friend! :)
I read it 2 years ago so i don't remember the details...anyway some people after the nukes continued living outside the Metro
I glad that I russian and I don't need to translate it. It's awesome
well it is strange how Red Army couldnt control whole of the Metro and how fast they last all of control of it.
The books never mentioned him, this is just to show that life fucking sucks when the nukes hit. He is a hero because he saved these people, and was respected in the normal world, but since that world has ended.... no one is willing to listen. They just want excuses for why they are in where they are in. The best is blaming old authorities.
Also everyone knows that you can only let a few in, but most don't realize the people left behind scream in pain or could be people they knew for years.
Nope. Artyom was rescued some two, three years later, but in a similar way - a soldier did take him from a running woman, but the woman was running from a rat infestation, not a nuclear blast.
long Live The Metro!
Officialy there are 2 books and Metro 2035 is in the works but there are spin offs too.
Sounds almost identical to the dad in Metro 2034.
Yeah, i thought the same thing, thats why i think this is sad for the commander
Amen to that
why is this not a movie?
He's not Artyom's stepfather and the child isn't Artyom.
Artyom's mother was killed by the rats and Artyom was 5 when she died.
He did the right thing yes, but in their eyes they could have saved more, but in reality we know they would have all died
Imagine he was sasha's dad from metro 2034....
Нет, отец Саши не закрывал гермоворота, отца и Сашу изгнали со станции по другой причине.
The guy did the right choice.
i wonder if he and the model、the preacher appear in the game
with? who eals was involved? for how long?
easy to say now. if your sister/mother/brother/wife/husband/son/daughter was just outside, JUST an arms length away when he ordered the door closed and all you could do was watch their face as the door seals their fate. would you still say the same? " It all depends on your point of view. Try to get a better understanding of things before you make your judgement." kahn, metro 2033.