@@MiddleThings Depends on the angle you look at it. 😉 Jokes aside - the fiber optics solution you build here looks quiet interesting, definetly makes cabling easier.
On one hand this is almost no different than the Blackmagic camera converters which have been out for years and years now (so that makes this product less revolutionary), but the fact that it can handle 6G finally means 4K is an available option in this space. For that single reason, it is worthwhile. We've run fiber in this exact situation for years, and it's really the only way to go.
@@JTHVideo The biggest reason was that they handled our comms as well as have the bonus of doing SDI -> HDMI conversion, which is great for return feed program monitors for the camera ops. However, now that we are adding more wireless options, the comms thing is out the window so the camera converters are sadly becoming less and less relevant. The middle things approach with Opticalcon support is also a major plus.
I would love to know if you guys have considered using the Sony FR7 PTZ full frame cameras I also use Black magic cameras for my live productions but I'm considering those to switch over to
Wow, vraiment génial comme produit ! Le petit plus du RJ45 intégré au bridge est vraiment bien pensé ! Et comme toujours la qualité de production des vidéos au top :)
These product are amazing, but just one question: why not everything in the back? I mean if you put the unite into the video switcher rack, and the MTP12 is in the back with all the SDI I/O, the MTP12 cable is in the back as the other cables so nothing in the front that can be in your way. Just my thought. I would prefer not to have any cable in the front, but maybe some monitoring screens? like signal and bitrate maybe. Or signal failover of one camera/cable or what else
Merci pour votre commentaire ! Hésitez pas à nous contacter, nous pouvons vous faire un devis spécifique pour la version 12G qui n’est pas beaucoup plus chère que la 6G
Great products! But can you also use two bridge 5’s as a stage racer? So one cable for 5 times SDI in and Out? Or do you need the smaller boxes to at the end to make the MTP12 into SDI?
This is great, I'd love to check this out. I'd love to run SDI (for my sony cameras) to a single breakout box and then have a single cable go to the control room. It looks like you've designed fiber to go from cameras to a box, to another box, then to the control room. I wish this was all in the same box. Great first attempt! Excited to see more in the future.
From what I understand you need only 1 Box in one Place, either you go: 1) Fiber Camera Box attached to Cameras -> Duo Fiber -> Fiber Bridge in Stagebox -> MTP Out or 2) Long SDI to Stagebox -> Fiber Unite in Stagebox -> MTP Out and convert with the Fiber Unite back to SDI in the Control Room
Great product, but I have one question. For someone like me who use PTZ cameras in my setup, I need to send and receive PTZ control and power to those cameras, and to achieve this, I use one ethernet(POE) cable . How would I go about that if I chose to buy your products like the box(5 of them) and one dispatch)?
The problem is that fiber is glass and the can be fragile especially if you are setting up, tearing down, being packed away. Cost is also a major factor. Ethernet (Cat5e, 6, 6a) is still the best option for using the network. Fiber can be used as the back back end.
Great products! You can clearly see you guys do this on a frequent basis. Most of the gear that is designed around larger events have an incredibly large footprint which is not optimal for small - medium size events. My dream is to be able to send 2-3 video signals (camera & laptop) from the stage to FOH with 1-2 returns for a confidence monitor & LED wall as well as ethernet for internet, audio (dante, MADI or SLink) and lighting on a single piece of armored MTP fiber. I was disappointed that the newly announced Blackmagic 2110 IP Converter only comes with Ethernet and no SFP port. I know from reading forums and Reddit that other people feel that same way. Regarding the product that you announced, I have a few questions: 1) If you already have Black Magic Optical Fiber Converters, could you connect them to the Fiber Bridge? (Assuming you are down converting to 6G on either side and have the right SFP adapters) 2) Am I correct in assuming that you can use MTP fiber cassettes for the Dispatch if you already have them? 3) Are you able to send isolated video as an output on the Dispatch? I.e. You have 3 cameras sending video to your mixer and then use the last 2 inputs to return video for confidence monitors / projectors? I would really like to see a device that combines the Dispatch and Bridge into a single unit. Keep up the good work!
Hello Jared, Thanks for your kind words! Yes actually you can do exactly that. 1) Yes your existing Blackmagic optical fiber converters + Blackmagic SFP modules (6G) are fully compatible. 2) Yes if you already have an MTP12 type A cassette you can use it 3) Yes on the dispatch you have 5 different inputs and 5 different outputs. So 10 channels in total. And if you use the Fiber Unite, it will add LAN to the MTP12 fiber. Actually the Bridge and Dispatch are designed to be used as a single unit, just stack them on top of each other ! And custom patch with short LC LC cables.
It'd be amazing if we could figure out how to power the cameras with these cables as well then you don't have to fiddle with big old v mount batteries someday...
so instead of 10 cables, you are stuck with 5 cables. That is not really a big win. The costs of these boxes are very expensive compared to what you gain. And you'll need to replace all your sdi cable with more fragile (at the connections) fiber cables. If you don't mind fragile you could also go for optical hdmi cables. It would also cut your cable amount in half at a fraction of the costs
nice, but how to deal with the Fiber Bridge 10 12G? There are no other components in your shop, that support the workflow with the 10 channel version. Maybe you should explain.
ok, I found the solution. Of cause, you need two of the 12g Bridges and two dispatches at the receiver side.... is the network connection normal network so that I also can use dante?
Hello, yes exactly ! Or you can use two Unite 6G in the control room and two 5channel MTP12 cables ( instead of a single 10channel MTP24 ) this allows for a more flexible approach with 2 different stage boxes that can be positioned at different locations. The network is IP based so you can use Dante yes
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This is amazing! I'm so glad there are new manufacturers in this industry. We need more competition and innovation!
We don’t bring that much innovation, but try to make something in the middle of other great solutions
Can you put vmount plates with power loop through on both sides of the converter to put it between a camera and a vmout
during my recent internship, i talked about building our own fiber units, you guys are amazing, this looks amazing!
Good stuff. but it needs to be mounted between the camera and the battery.
Your video production is so good, I will probably have to watch it twice to actually be able to pay attention to the content 😊
Haha sorry about that, that means it's not so good in the end!
@@MiddleThings Depends on the angle you look at it. 😉
Jokes aside - the fiber optics solution you build here looks quiet interesting, definetly makes cabling easier.
all of this looks awesome
Can we get this in Doug Johnson Productions hands to test?
PLEASE!!! Do this!!!
It's literally just fiber... there's nothing to test. 😂
10:29 Hey MT, great demo video, what is the floor cable organizer called here?
@MOVO Media these are "Defender Office" cable bridges from Adam Hall
@@Jonas-lo3kg Thanks!
Amazing product line!
Trop forts! Vous tuez ça 👌
0:56 what lens is being used here
Awesome Products
I would love to know what those floor covers you were using are
On one hand this is almost no different than the Blackmagic camera converters which have been out for years and years now (so that makes this product less revolutionary), but the fact that it can handle 6G finally means 4K is an available option in this space. For that single reason, it is worthwhile. We've run fiber in this exact situation for years, and it's really the only way to go.
Out of curiosity, the Blackmagic fiber converters can do 12G with the correct transceivers. Why not do that?
@@JTHVideo The biggest reason was that they handled our comms as well as have the bonus of doing SDI -> HDMI conversion, which is great for return feed program monitors for the camera ops. However, now that we are adding more wireless options, the comms thing is out the window so the camera converters are sadly becoming less and less relevant. The middle things approach with Opticalcon support is also a major plus.
Yes!!! So excited for this. About to do a church buildout and will definitely be looking into these
Awesome! Let us know if you require any further info
I would love to know if you guys have considered using the Sony FR7 PTZ full frame cameras I also use Black magic cameras for my live productions but I'm considering those to switch over to
Wow, vraiment génial comme produit ! Le petit plus du RJ45 intégré au bridge est vraiment bien pensé !
Et comme toujours la qualité de production des vidéos au top :)
Merci beaucoup !!
@0:24 That's why Schill makes them indestructible.😆 You got me with that shot lol. Been there done that. 😅
These product are amazing, but just one question: why not everything in the back? I mean if you put the unite into the video switcher rack, and the MTP12 is in the back with all the SDI I/O, the MTP12 cable is in the back as the other cables so nothing in the front that can be in your way. Just my thought. I would prefer not to have any cable in the front, but maybe some monitoring screens? like signal and bitrate maybe. Or signal failover of one camera/cable or what else
J’adore hâte de tester ça 😁
Bonjour,
Incroyable produit qui répond aux besoins actuels!
Est-ce qu'une évolution en 12G est dans les tiroirs ?
Bien cordialement
Merci pour votre commentaire ! Hésitez pas à nous contacter, nous pouvons vous faire un devis spécifique pour la version 12G qui n’est pas beaucoup plus chère que la 6G
Great products! But can you also use two bridge 5’s as a stage racer? So one cable for 5 times SDI in and Out? Or do you need the smaller boxes to at the end to make the MTP12 into SDI?
You can actually use 2 Fiber Unite 5 together ! So basically : 5 SDI IN / OUT pairs -> MTP12 -> 5 SDI IN / OUT pairs
OMG this is great!
This is great, I'd love to check this out. I'd love to run SDI (for my sony cameras) to a single breakout box and then have a single cable go to the control room. It looks like you've designed fiber to go from cameras to a box, to another box, then to the control room. I wish this was all in the same box. Great first attempt! Excited to see more in the future.
From what I understand you need only 1 Box in one Place, either you go:
1) Fiber Camera Box attached to Cameras -> Duo Fiber -> Fiber Bridge in Stagebox -> MTP Out or
2) Long SDI to Stagebox -> Fiber Unite in Stagebox -> MTP Out
and convert with the Fiber Unite back to SDI in the Control Room
I’m interested in these products, just asking why most is 6g and not 12g Sdi
We will introduce 12G SDI products shortly, but you can send us a message now, they are already available
Great product, but I have one question. For someone like me who use PTZ cameras in my setup, I need to send and receive PTZ control and power to those cameras, and to achieve this, I use one ethernet(POE) cable . How would I go about that if I chose to buy your products like the box(5 of them) and one dispatch)?
The problem is that fiber is glass and the can be fragile especially if you are setting up, tearing down, being packed away. Cost is also a major factor. Ethernet (Cat5e, 6, 6a) is still the best option for using the network. Fiber can be used as the back back end.
du génie ! bravo !
Great products! You can clearly see you guys do this on a frequent basis. Most of the gear that is designed around larger events have an incredibly large footprint which is not optimal for small - medium size events. My dream is to be able to send 2-3 video signals (camera & laptop) from the stage to FOH with 1-2 returns for a confidence monitor & LED wall as well as ethernet for internet, audio (dante, MADI or SLink) and lighting on a single piece of armored MTP fiber. I was disappointed that the newly announced Blackmagic 2110 IP Converter only comes with Ethernet and no SFP port. I know from reading forums and Reddit that other people feel that same way.
Regarding the product that you announced, I have a few questions:
1) If you already have Black Magic Optical Fiber Converters, could you connect them to the Fiber Bridge? (Assuming you are down converting to 6G on either side and have the right SFP adapters)
2) Am I correct in assuming that you can use MTP fiber cassettes for the Dispatch if you already have them?
3) Are you able to send isolated video as an output on the Dispatch? I.e. You have 3 cameras sending video to your mixer and then use the last 2 inputs to return video for confidence monitors / projectors?
I would really like to see a device that combines the Dispatch and Bridge into a single unit. Keep up the good work!
Hello Jared,
Thanks for your kind words! Yes actually you can do exactly that.
1) Yes your existing Blackmagic optical fiber converters + Blackmagic SFP modules (6G) are fully compatible.
2) Yes if you already have an MTP12 type A cassette you can use it
3) Yes on the dispatch you have 5 different inputs and 5 different outputs. So 10 channels in total. And if you use the Fiber Unite, it will add LAN to the MTP12 fiber.
Actually the Bridge and Dispatch are designed to be used as a single unit, just stack them on top of each other ! And custom patch with short LC LC cables.
It'd be amazing if we could figure out how to power the cameras with these cables as well then you don't have to fiddle with big old v mount batteries someday...
I love your videos, sorry for asking it here, but are you releasing any new videos in Zebra Zone, I've watched every single of your videos there!
Don't worry about that!
@@zebrazone you are amazing 🥹
Wow!!
Wow congratulations, this is an amazing product line! Very well done!
Anyone else initially read the text in the thumbnail as middle finger?
so instead of 10 cables, you are stuck with 5 cables. That is not really a big win. The costs of these boxes are very expensive compared to what you gain. And you'll need to replace all your sdi cable with more fragile (at the connections) fiber cables. If you don't mind fragile you could also go for optical hdmi cables. It would also cut your cable amount in half at a fraction of the costs
Unless you go for the Unite or Bridge, 10 or 20 cables in just one cable :)
MPT =/= MTP 🤔
Sorry 😇
@@MiddleThings We're all humans 😊
is the same guy from zebras ?
I don't get it, aside from the well produced marketing video and cheap price, what exactly is innovative about this product?
Nothing really innovative indeed! But did we say it was?
@@MiddleThings Never said you did. Just giving my opinion, obviously.
nice, but how to deal with the Fiber Bridge 10 12G? There are no other components in your shop, that support the workflow with the 10 channel version. Maybe you should explain.
ok, I found the solution. Of cause, you need two of the 12g Bridges and two dispatches at the receiver side.... is the network connection normal network so that I also can use dante?
Hello, yes exactly ! Or you can use two Unite 6G in the control room and two 5channel MTP12 cables ( instead of a single 10channel MTP24 ) this allows for a more flexible approach with 2 different stage boxes that can be positioned at different locations.
The network is IP based so you can use Dante yes