+Thomas McDonald Are you ? Considering you couldn't comprehend the joke. but i think we can both agree given that your only recourse was to offer an insult. would be to assume you're feeble minded.
+The Rubin Report: Major credit goes to you Dave, for doing your job as an interviewer. You let your guest speak. You didn't make it about you, as much as about drawing responses from Fry. That's what we wanted to see. And you did a damn good job mate :D
Not to be prickish, but is this your first Rubin Report? All Rubin is doing here is taking a classic tradition of television interviewing that actually used to be the fucking norm until the 1980's when we got things like 'Crossfire'
but that's the thing, he seems the type of person who you would enjoy even disagreeing with because he just sounds like someone who is capable of hearing an opposing opinion and not crucify you for it and would rather simply ask you why and actually listen to the answer.
@@robmarrin6720 Fry is wonderful despite his intellect, not because of it. Karl Marx was intelligent. Josef Mengele was intelligent. Charles Manson was intelligent. Intelligence is just a metric, it is not an arbiter.
+L Beatrice Batz Well, as of 2015, more than half of Britons now believe in ghosts, and the number is rising. So, Americans aren't alone in their superstitious thinking. www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/ghosts-britons-belief-supernatural-rise-4395662
+L Beatrice Batz I don't think 3 out of 4 people are even religious so there is no way this number is true. My only guess is the poll was conducted at Sunday church services.
Stephen Fry is one of those people whom you can sit with for hours on end, discussing every possible topic under the sun, and never, ever, get bored. In fact, it would be an education.
Really? A member of the PC/Social Justice brigade has managed to meander his way out of his safe space where no one ever uses words he doesn't like and somehow finds himself looking down his nose at my comment and trying to insinuate that - in an ironic twist - I have a really bad case of self pity because I used the word “nigga” on my profile. Are you triggered, man?
Given that you only posted to give a passive aggressive insult to what looks like someone just saying a statement as plain and simple as 'I like Stephen Fry', trying to backpedal onto the moral high ground now seems like... exactly what I called you already. It's not name calling if it's true dude, even if you feel all upset about it because I wasn't a snide passive aggressive baby about it like you were. Calling a spade a spade, here, and you're a dick. I can go into excruciating detail if you really want, because I can see you don't have a leg to stand on here that doesn't involve basically pointing to OP and saying 'but I'm not as bad as hiiiiiimmmm!' just like that 5 year old niece you mentioned. You're really that confident with your contextual position here?
***** No ideology, science, society, culture, race, differences, preferences, facts, opinions, etc. make it complicated. You are one of the people that would like to live a life of ignorance.
***** So you have no level of self reflection either? I'm not going to bother arguing with you. You seem very set in your ways. I will just say that no one is going to benefit from people trying to make the complex world that we live seem simpler than it is. We need people who will embrace problems and complexities and try to find solutions. Not people who will let their "moral compass" passively steer them around the tough gritty stuff the world is made of.
+August Celine III Life is not that complicated. You get up, you go to work, eat three meals, you take one good shit and you go back to bed. What’s the fucking mystery?! - George Carlin LOL xD
+Sergey I can't tell if that was supposed to be a serious or a humorous comment, because I can't hear your tone over the Internet. If this was a joke, yeah, Fry hijacked David's show which is funny But if you were serious: this interview obviously :)
Derek Wildash I disagree with this, everything is simple. You can break things down into to their simplest elements to understand the bigger picture. If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein Not saying I'm MLGpro.
Life is simple, life exists to continue existence. Life is full of simple truths. People can complicate simple truths in an effort to amass power; it is called manipulation. The simple truths are these: I life has value and it should be protected. Sentient life and the potential of such is rare and even more valuable. A life that is happy requires sentience and such a life is the most valuable. The seeking of happiness requires the ability to make choices. It is upon these truths that the United States of America's declaration of independence was based upon to distinguish and separate its self from the old monarchies of the past. "Where America leads Britan follows." It was, in fact, the freedom that America enshrined that has swayed these old Monarchies into effective democratic representative governments. It isn't the monarchy that makes these nations free, it is the ability for the people of these nations to determine their own future. Freedom is not compatible with Aristocracy, that is another simple truth of life.
It is simple, it's just not simple in the way people want it to be simple. People want it to be simple in the "Right or Wrong" "Good and Evil" kind of way. But the world has no good, it has no evil, it just has stuff. What we consider good and evil is subjective, what is considered good today, may be evil in a hundred years or so. Ironically however, I'd argue that Stephen Fry here is being too simplistic. For example the "Trigger" stuff he mentions, in some cases, yea, get over it, you have to make an actual effort to get over it, because you'll encounter this stuff regardless. However, it's also important to keep in mind that doing something that you know hurts someone, and continuing doing it, is a dick move. So yea, like his own words state: Everything's (at least that's to do with social stuff with humans) is complicated.
It kind of comes off that way, doesn't it? But I don't think he really meant that. It seems a big problem today on both the right and left to see things too simply. On each side they seem to say, "the problem is simple! and I have a simple answer to it all! and if you disagree you are a (fill in the blank) a racist, a traitor, a bigot, a socialist libtard, brainwashed, a moron, etc etc. Fry advocates that we look at these problems with open minds and clear thinking - free of dogma and free to say whatever we want, without being harassed and pilloried. If you want to call me a moron, I'm fine with that. But you had better be able to explain in clear detail why I am. Otherwise, I don't care and neither should you.@Gerr Gerring
Look what happened to Jordan Peterson. The backlash from the morons is no where near as strong as the support these guys should get. It is political and career saving. The left will block you, have you fired, removed from social media because you risked offending them by not agreeing with them and their victim mentality. It’s a binary system they have 0 good 1 block and destruct nothing in between.
@@brianbrooking496 Unfortunately, from either side of the political spectrum, it's the loudest voices that are often the only ones heard. It's not the entire left who think like this anymore than the entire right are flag-waving Nazi-saluting white supremacists. It's the media and the politicians themselves who have pushed this polarisation and created a binary system where you are either a leftist tree-hugging offended-by-everything nutter or a right-wing Nazi-apologist thug (or some other such exaggerated label). People, on BOTH sides, need to stop buying into this false dichotomy and listen to each, accepting that people have different views and opinions. We should all try to listen a bit more and be grown-ups. That said, I think there are instances where certain people should be removed from certain platforms, or have warnings displayed when patently false information is being disseminated.
Old Nelson its just an offended generation sadly. Next “special needs” will have to be renamed for risk that the millennials may feel they are not special and are offended. Statues of religious figures will be pulled down because they offend others. The loudest voice is usually the most frightened voice. Sadly I am worried for this generation as they need to get a grip on reality, that opinions can offend and thats ok. Oxford university student magazine called “No Offence” was banned from the annual freshers fair, on grounds it may “cause offence”. The kids today need a “safe space” where I feel they need to “get out more” interact with the world physically and not just sit and be manipulated by social media. Anyway.....
except her forgets the side effects of the "enlightenment" socially were people forgetting their duties and thinking about personal comfort and fun. They would send off their newborns and check up on them when they could be potentially profitable, many of these kids died, dropped from carriages and run over. No one cared. That's the "enlightenment" sociologically speaking.
+aWizardfromEarth Yet, Stephen Fry is the father of self pity... from his school days to his mental states. Therefore his comments are completely disingenuous.
+AminTheMystic you have just made a comment of a person who does not know what he is talking about. Vinny asked you a question all he wanted was an answer to your comment not to have a childish answer of I cannot be bothered.
Fry's partly right about the freedom. Before the left went batshit crazy, they had a lot of things on their side. There's at least a dozen or so freedoms involved when you get treated with dignity and opportunities to escape from poverty if you were born into a poor family, for instance. That said, they've since gone WAY TOO FAR with the regressive SJW and feminist crap.
Not sure what you mean by more chance to escape from poverty. I'd say by far and above the USA has the most from pauper to prince success stories (I may be wrong, but I'm not). So could you be a little more clear on your statement. Are you talking about being above the poverty line due to welfare from the state? In that regards I'll agree with you. The U.S.'s welfare system is rife with corruption and is more of a yoke than an aid. On the flip side of that is that those countries have extremely high tax rates and costs of living that take from those who work hard to balance out/subsidize those that don't work hard or aren't able to. But I'll concede that without a doubt there are good points (and bad points) to almost any country. And the USA is far from number one which is why so many people want to see a change.
Shipwreck bp There wouldn't be enough room in the comments to do justice to a "Left vs Right" debate. In short, there are good things to be said about free public health care, free or at least cheap education, state housing instead of homelessness and a few other things like that. You said it already with keeping people above the poverty line. OTOH, if costly things are too cheap and easy to obtain, the beneficiaries have no reason to value them, and the benefactors could rightly become resentful. TBH I think the debate has never been fully "solved", which is why it keeps raging in society. Pauper to prince success stories can be a great motivator, or not, depending on how you look at them. For most people, their life will remain a struggle even if they're really talented. Or they could labour under an illusion that they're "doing great things", even if they're just repeating the same tasks that 1000s or millions of other people are doing. Is covert wealth redistribution (competitive make-work, superficial diversity, and other capitalist chest-beating) really all that different from overt socialist redistribution? I recall a great scene from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, where factory workers were desperately unwrapping chocolate bars and trying to find a Golden Ticket. It seems like a great metaphor for a competitive marketplace. The duds with no Golden Ticket are still bullshit no matter what reward scheme is used to pay the workers.
+meh_hi_there You are right about that. There isn't enough room in the comments for a left vs right debate. They both have their bad parts just at the moment one side is much worse than the other. I won't deny that choosing one over the other is almost always choosing the lesser of two evils. Whether that be - left vs right or capitalism vs socialism. But for the record. Unequivocally, Yes it is wrong to make other people pay for others especially when those other people are just using the system so they don't have to work. It is despicable when people don't even try to lift themselves but want others to do it for them. OTOH, for those that do honestly try to succeed and don't give up because their dream didn't happen overnight. I have the utmost respect for those people. I, myself, came from a very poor family, but I worked hard and although I am not a prince I am not a pauper either. I own my own house and property paid for with cash not because I am rich but because I saved and live a simple life. A lot of people are in debt and poverty not because they are poor but because they feel entitled to everything so they go out and spend foolishly and or gamble (like your Charlie and the Chocolate Factory scenario - lotteries are just self delusion for 99.9% of people) , do drugs, max out several credit cards, etc... And in general only live for the here and now and 'keeping up with the Joneses' attitude. And that is partially the fault of the state for not teaching better human life skills like economics in school and instead focusing on stupid stuff like if it is okay to call someone a him or a her. Granted manners are important, but worrying if calling someone a him or her doesn't really help at all in the reality of daily life. (the following sarcasm) Because goodness gracious that's what's important is the use or non-use of pronouns and PC language in a country that most people can't even balance their check book. Had I lived in say Sweden (57% income tax) instead of saving for my house to purchase out right (no banks, no mortgages) which took roughly 10 years (roughly 28% income tax for me here in the USA) of savings it would have taken a significantly longer time for me to do that. So yes, I'd say capitalism (which is by no means perfect) is better than socialist states/countries. Btw, just curious, are you from the USA or someplace else?
Hi, Anton. Seen Nice, France, lately? That's political correctness that led to that. It could happen in Sweden, too. That is...if the Swedes aren't so passive that they simply get outpopulated without a shot. That's believable. I do believe the Muslim birthrate their (not to mention immigration) is a tad bit higher than the Swedish birthrate.
JT...this often occurs when a leftist is confronted with a post like I made; they 1) profess 'puzzlement,' 2) attempt to assume ownership of the term 'political correctness', (which they refuse to even define, themselves) and then 3) attempt to make it sound like it's OTHERS who don't know that definition, when they simply point out the results of political correctness...which, as you and everyone else already knows, is the collective, dogmatic, 'progressive' view of all things that allows or tolerates ZERO dissent. It is applicable to any political view in existence: in this case, the unchecked invasion of hundreds of thousands of non-European immigrants into Europe, and the near-total lack of assimilation of either them or their descendants into their host countries...and further, the open, stated goal of many of these migrants to outpopulate Europeans and replace them with an Islamic caliphate...and to roam about all but freely and inflict whatever kind of mayhem and carnage they can against the infidels, in the process -- just as we saw in Nice, and Paris, and London, and Madrid, and Brussels -- and to count on the continued finger-wagging of the 'progressive' proletariat against ANY common-sense measures that would halt such foolishness: like closing the borders against ANY new such migrants, and expelling vast numbers of those already in Europe. One way or another, it's coming to a head...and these matters will be addressed now, or even more poignantly, in the future.
***** So the problems with migrants in europe is more to do with the EUs boarder/foreign policies, then the concept of political correctness, wouldn't you say? Political correctness sure ain't perfect, but its better than it was 30+ years ago when racism and sexism was commonplace.
Occasionally, self-pity visits our thoughts, and emotions; it's our place to end a self conversation to get on reclaiming our energy for good thoughts, deeds, kindness, and trusting our Heavenly Father, and creator. 💞🙏🗽🇺🇸🌎
@@kccox8516 iam atheist so no I dont trust in your heavenly father and creator. Pls dont speak for others. Also this ignore the bad only think in good thing is bullshit. Good luck with depression.
Oh please, tell us exactly how we "suffer" in Sweden? There's alot of suffering out in the world. Hunger, poverty and war to mention a few. Getting snapped at by some political correct journalist for having critical opinions about immigration isn't suffering, that's just being sensitive and special snow flake.
Anton Karlsson Well, we suffer from police and media covering up crimes, we suffer from uncontrolled immigration, spikes in crime such as rape and murder, child-brides, women who fled here to escape living under sharia law find themselves more controlled in Sweden than they did back home in the middle-east, honor-crimes, mass-sexual assaults on young women and boys. Do you need me to go on or is this enough?
Anton Karlsson Also, I wrote that we suffer from political correctness. Nothing else. I havent talked to a journalist, ever, so I dont know where that came from.
HerbalNuggets We have closed boarders and tons of legislation against immigration, so you're lying. It's also a lie that Sweden would be a dystopia where raping and crime are more common than anywhere else. In fact, Sweden is one of the safest places on earth if you look at actual statistics. So quit your lying and trash talking of our country. I'm proud to be a Swede and all that we stand for. Your self hatered is just sad.
He is genuinely the most down to earth man. I've done work for him, and he is very humble. He makes you question yourself, far deeper than you are comfortable going.
I feel like his character Gordon Wyatt on Bones was just him being him, not playing a character and the way you describe him makes me belive it even more
A much beloved Swedish radio personality and humorist (hist best friend and job partner for decades made the film that made Stellan Skarsgård a household name, to place him in a frame that might be familiar to people outside of Sweden), Tage Danielsson, who was also a bit of a philosopher, said what I hope is translatable to "Without doubt, you are not sane". (It is ambiguous in Swedish, and I hope I managed to make it so in English, too.) Ideology is the enemy of doubt, and therefore of reason and pragmatism. Ideology means going with the map instead of with the ground. Ideology replaces reason for those who do not dare or manage to think for themselves. Communists will think that if the state decides everything, all problems will go away. Market maniacs will think that if the market decides everything, all problems will go away. And there are religious ideology and other ideologies that are just the same. Pragmatists will not shy away from realising that the aim of a law might not be the outcome, and that the same law might have another outcome if there are changes in society. The goal of pragmatists is a certain outcome. The goal of ideologues is for their ideology to prevail. I fear ideology, ideologies and ideologues.
Why are people upset about what he said? He is right and he doesn't mean it in a slandering way he is basically saying for you to grow up and move on and stop feeling sorry for yourself and to not waste your life by doing it. People are so easily offended smh
I don't mind the original idea of political correctness, that we should be well mannered and respectful to each-other... but the current form it takes on social media is just ball flatteningly bizarre. You have kids on tumblr using strange insider non-self-explanatory jargon, and expecting instant outrage at those who fail to use it.
Octavia Minor - It was an excellent point! I absolutely love Stephen Fry, but I couldn't help feeling he slightly undermined his own point about casting off the sugary drinks and baseball-caps of childhood when I spotted below the table that he was wearing those Converse style skater shoes!
The example he gave is not an nonsensical self pity, but even he is not immune to making an judgmental, unempathical statements. Well, he is not omniscient. Kind of harsh of him.
i think the lack of dislikes speaks to the notion that all the outraged people from buzzfeed or wherever didn't even come here to understand the context of the opinion they disliked
As a farm boy my Dad was always saying little "ditties"! One was his favorite...."before you remove a fence, ask why it was there to begin with"! Every person should ask the question about the fences of morality! Dare ya!
John Interns Him and Hitch were a formidable force in the atheist world. Fry is extremely eloquent, though I often find myself Googling the odd word he casually throws into his talks.
John Interns Which is why I educate myself by Googling words I don't recognise; such as ecclesiasticism, which I didn't know prior to this interview. I'm not ashamed at all to admit that I'm not a walking dictionary, and even less ashamed to admit that I look up words I don't know.
"Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one is going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself. The irony is we'll feel sorry for you if you stop feeling sorry for yourself; just grow up."
Demian Haki It's a complex issue with no simple solution, and both individuals and organizations are trying to push their decisions on everyone. Given the complexities of human emotion, saying that everyone should simply "Grow up" is nothing less than insulting. Coming from a man as well-informed as Mr Fry, it's like a general attempting to slap the post-traumatic stress out of his men. Mr Fry should know better than to think it's simple a matter of immaturity. Certainly, there are individuals and factions that take this matter too far, but there is a solid grounding behind the basic concept of safe spaces.
Anyone can remember things they are taught or read from a book, IF they have a good memory. It's nice to come from a rich background and be sent to posh universities, as opposed to the second-class ed-yoo-kay-shun the rest of us receive. Anyone can be a 'scholar' if they have all the lucky breaks. I don't worship those who did, nor do I regard them any more authority on any subject than me or you. A friend of mine scored a MENSA level of 133 - top 8% - when he was falling asleep during the tests, due to his MS. He's from a working class background and crap state schooling. That is more remarkable in my opinion and it is an opinion only.
kickboxer You are right he is a gentleman and a scholar, however, this scholar whoofed on the opportunity to tell truths about black ppl being the backbone of America. Instead, he regurgitated damaging propaganda rhetoric about the gun violence in Chicago. Now, ppl who LISTEN to Fry will be mislead to the truths about black ppl.
and?....do you think Stephen Fry would defend someones right to preach "hate" against homosexual marriages?.......or would he be the first to want them thrown in jail for exercising their free speech against homosexuality?
+Rachel Coleman It's an example of people thinking like infants. They are unable to see the point of what he is saying, only the words, and they follow it literally. They think this is actually him being mean to victims of sex abuse. It triggers them, bringing back every time their mummy or daddy didn't give them as much sympathy as they wanted, and they start to project. On Stephen, on Twitter, on anyone who would listen. Soon it didn't matter whether anyone was listening at all, only the outrage. The greatness of the outrage, like a badge, a shield in fact. Don't look at me and why I am incapable of comprehending only a single layer of subtext, look at my outrage. Like a dragon spitting fire, destroying every adult thought and word ever uttered.
What an ambassador for Britain! There are probably quite a few things I would disagree with him over, but I'm 100% sure he would engage in civilised debate over them and conduct himself like a thorough gentleman and scholar.
The fact that you wouldn’t always agree with him 100% shows that you think critically and put things up for discussion, and I think Stephen would appreciate that.
It's really not and if you really think it hinders comedy or democracy then may I suggest that you learn more words. The only people being against political correctness benefits are the people who are already in power.
@@johnmoonitz2968 May I suggest that anti-PC is purely there to oppress and belittle groups of society? Why else would you want to be an arsehole for no reason? Pretty much all of the worst governments in history have violently targeted large subsections of society. They wouldn't have been able to reduce certain groups of people to rats or cockroaches if their language was policed and scrutinised. The problem with Fry is that he believes people are like him. He's egotistical and assumes that most people have the same views as him, when they don't. Most people wait for the most simplistic explanation of the problems they see in society. This explanation is typically given by people who use minority groups as a scapegoat and in my mind, the right to live without fear of persecution should come ahead of the right to be a cunt that uses language that directly leads to genocide and other unfavourable ideals. Never, ever under estimate the power of words, every human tragedy in the history of humankind started off as just words.
The way he says " I love this country ". I remember watching one of his shows of traveling across America, and although you could see clear differences between Fry's worldview and some of the people he came across, I found him to always be open, gracious and curious about people who are different than he is. Not an ounce of condescension towards the people he met. My respect for him really increased after seeing how he treated people. It's this type of person that makes me look in the mirror and ask myself if I can do better.
+Mullerornis What are you talking about, mate? I've known he's gay for as long as I remember knowing the man. What the hell should I care what he is sexually interested in, I'm not interested in his body or what bodies he likes I'm interested in his brain and the words he says.
Stephen Fry is an individual that I never tire listening no matter what topic. Mr. Fry is truly an intelligent, personable, and talented man. This topic of political correctness has great personal meaning myself. Specifically intolerance.
Really interesting thoughts. "Life is complicated, but no one want's to believe it's complicated"...something to take to heart. Nothing is black and white, everything is a gray area.
+Peter Caires Yep, the most important point of the whole segment. I would love a movement where adults start upbraiding other adults for this behaviour. 40 year olds listening to Taylor Swift, excitedly lining up for the latest Batman or Star Wars offering . . . damn, where have all the cool adults gone?
There's nothing wrong with not liking something like a play involving rape or something because it offends you or whatever, the issue is when you start telling other people that they should also be offended, and that nobody should be allowed to enjoy said play.
Dave Rubin, I don't know if you have a line of communication to Stephen Fry or not, if you do please let him know the thinking people in the world did understand his point, we know he was not attacking abuse victims and the progressives are clearly acting out of defensive panic because he was threatening their dogma. I am certain he already understands this but a little re assurance never hurts. Thank you for everything you do here, never stop!
@@jermaineedwards8384 You didn't explain anything, and that's exactly why I asked my silly question. You just stated something of which I haven't seen any evidence yet. Take your own advice and try again.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!" - Person I forgot I think ignorance isn't so much of a problem as is ignorance about one's own ignorance. -My personal quote.
This is so true! Let’s be honest all ages of civilisations have had terrible things happen within them. However, as they progressed through the ages, the next age learned lessons from the ones before. But did they remove the past. NO. The faced it, conquered it and moved on. This is the progress of the ages. The term political correctness, in it’s own right has been stripped and Beaton within an inch of it’s life. The term is thrown around now to suit what ever agenda people want it to serve! People throw things like race and gender under this banner, when those things do not fit within it! If you are talking about gender equality or mending the roads of race, these are discussion’s on equality not political correctness.! Our ancestors fought wars to protect our freedoms. 100’s and thousands of men women and children have died in the pursuit of Freedom. The new woke culture impinge’s on that freedom, and denies history the right to insert it’s self into the modern day. We may not always say what is right or acceptable, but, we have the right to say it! Sorry i got a little of topic and I apologise.
And yet, Stephen Fry makes a big and worthy attempt to produce enough to make that lottery prize worthwhile. Everything he is involved in is better for his involvement. On the other hand, if I have to choose between somebody who believes in "angels" and somebody who believes in "social justice" I will take the angel-trumpeter every time.
@@puppetsock There are other choices if you listen to Fry, grow up, stop feeling self pity, stop blaming others, stop trying to cancel speech and people you don't like, that comes before 'social justice
@@Mysterywhiteboy78 Everything you mention as "comes before social justice" is completely contradictory to social justice. Social justice is making groups the same, not giving people what they deserve. Social justice is *ALWAYS* evil. It is evil by definition. It wipes out the possibility of people getting what they deserve.
Fry knows Jack about history, or culture, or science. He's full of opinions, like everyone else. He's also so full of toxins he looks ready to explode. Hypocritical for him to criticize American diet, but he's a shameless know-all and attention hoor.
Didn't Fry get a rather rare scholarship to Cambridge based on his entrance exam scores.... you'd have to assume he's bright enough there? no? Although he did only finish with a 2:1 in English Literature, so he's not a physicist. I think American doctors and scientists are criticizing the American diet too...and mother nature got in on the act by lambasting the population with type 2 diabetes! In his autobiography he does mention his intellect and an IQ test he took many years ago, but he doesn't give a score. His comment was that the result worried him because he would much rather be a complete and utter freak rather than on the borderline! I doubt that was the borderline between mildly intellectually disabled and moron!
so what about "free speech zones"? and "hate speech laws"?...are you for or against those?............what about all the whiny liberal college students who think certain words and lines of thought should be "banned"?..............................you cant blame this on the political right...its left minded people who started this "political correctness" crap.
Any liberal or leftist I know is for more freedom, clear thinking and against PC nonsense. Most of what you read about it on the internet are fairy tales. Stephen Fry, for example, is a liberal.
+Dave Fischer I liked this, not only because it takes a well-aimed swipe at ALL social media social justice (all sides equally, btw), but also because it's true. Everybody, even Dave here, prefers the comfort of the binary, black-and-white, Us vs. Them birdshit.
“Cancel Culture” is a central tenet of Woke. This is undeniable. And this is a subject close to my heart. It is because I have had a job thrust upon me. Namely, adjudicating as to who can and who cannot speak before a Society at a British Russell Group University. My remit is not to invite anybody who might “upset” or “trigger” not the majority, but any of our student body. Now, this has made me reflect on who, historically, I would have to not invite, uninvite or ban from campus. Plato and Aristotle. They would not be invited on the basis that they thought that the state should censor music. Aristotle also endorsed the institution of slavery and thought that it was “natural.” He is definitely off the list. Rudyard Kipling: Students at the University of Manchester recently painted over a Kipling poem on the basis that he was “imperialist and anti-Indian.” Imperialist he may have been, but Kipling was born in India. How can he be an Indian anti-Indian? Truly an inverted form of racism if ever there was one. Banned from campus. George Orwell: He made remarks mocking vegetarians at the end of ‘Road to Wigan Pier.’ His views on freedom of speech would cause deep offence to those who believed in ‘safe spaces.’ Taken off the invitation list. Martin Luther King Jr.: During his ‘I have a Dream’ speech in August 1963 he made several references to the word “n*gr*”. Now of course, the speech itself is inherently anti-racist. Indeed it is probably one of the most anti-racist speeches in history. However, to your easily-triggered person the context is irrelevant. All that matters is use of some of the naughty ‘trigger’ words. As a consequence he would be uninvited. Mahatma Gandhi: In Manchester they are erecting a statue to the great man outside the Cathedral. However, this statute was condemned by many students at the University of Manchester on the basis that it, the statute, was ‘racist.’ ‘Racist’ because of some comments that Gandhi made about native black stretcher bearers during the Boer War. Not invited. John Stuart Mill: Unquestionably “Mr. Woke” of the Victorian era. A pro-feminist; anti-slavery, pro-freedom campaigner before his time. However, he would have to be un-invited. Firstly, because he favoured the death penalty and secondly because, although he was vehemently anti-racist, like Dr. King, he used certain words in his vocabulary that would make the hypersensitive and neurotic go into a feint and then, possibly, into a permanent decline. As a consequence, he would not be invited to speak. Last, but not least, Karl Marx. Because of derogatory remarks that he made about the Slavic people he would not even make it to the invitations list. In fact, he would be banned from campus. The trouble is, all that I am left with to invite, or permit to be invited, are the anodyne and dull. Those who have nothing interesting nor new to say. In fact, those speaking pretty much match the mindset of modern students and modern faculty. It is just the bland leading the bland.
I laughed when he said Americans believe in angels, because im an american and I believe in angels, HOWEVER , I mock people who believe in demons, and the devil...those two things seem utterly ridiculous to me, I can see the humor in my logic, but like fry said, everything's complex
I completely agree with Stephen Fry. He needn't have apologized, and the idea that he should need to is the clearest example of exactly what he was saying! Free speech, people. Listen to the entire interview.
Stephen Fry has such a concise and eloquent way of explaining issues that even the most dense of us should be able to grasp what he’s getting at. If only he could visit all the colleges and university’s in both the UK and US and administer a little of this tough love.
There's a point in "The Owl and the Pussycat" where Barbra Streisand says "I'm not beautiful, I just make you think so" and proceeds to demonstrate how she does it. Very convincingly!
Peter Clarke Fry is a rather famous and busy man. Rubin has gone from a little RUclips to the hub of classical liberal thought in a short amount of time.
Peter Clarke He is very well known in England (also in commonwealth countries like my own, but less so) as brilliant polymath and gentleman; a brilliant actor, endless knowledge, an amazing comedian and a unforgiving, sharp commentator on politics, religion, ect.
Nothing's wrong with statues he's saying that pulling statues down is dumb and it's not the way to protest or prove a point and all it does is destroy a work of art. Weather people like the statue or not is immaterial it's about the symbolism behind pulling the statues down , like when Moses told the people to pull there statues down in the bible after he'd visited the burning bush and god told him to tell his people idolatry is wrong and they pulled there statues down through to people pulling statues of leaders who committed atrocities down . Thought:- maybe statues of evil people could be dressed as clowns to make them look stupid or have something else done to remind people of just how evil and atrocious the things they did were so in a thousand years people would still know what Saddam hitler and other evil monstrous leaders did . It would need to be done in a way that nobody could mistake the meaning though because stupid or uneducated people could possibly not understand what a statue stood to represent
I think these particular statues were put up in the 1930s as a specific response to a perceived erosion of white-power. They weren't commemorative really... they were specific acts of racism, which went hand in hand with jim crow, and lynch-mobs. Still... not to worry... racism is a live and well, and a statue celebrating it is coming to a town near you, any day now: www.newsweek.com/new-confederate-monuments-are-quietly-going-across-us-690798
Absolutely. What the Triggered Generation don't realise is that irony, satire, just mocking the enemy are so much more effective than throwing a hissy fit. I have to echo Stephen Fry - grow up.
Stephen Fry's clarity of thought seems to compel one to want to dig deeper into the British cultural roots of the modern world. From magna carta and constitutional monarchy to the development of Common Law and early democratic models of representational government, the British pioneering spirit has left a tremendous mark on Western Civilization. The fact that the free vibrant Commonwealth States of the world comprise such immense areas of land and global influence, for material and cultural wealth, certainly brings pause for deeper consideration of our roots. Yes, imperialism was destructive, but it was self-correcting too. The British not only expended immense resources and societal will to end Atlantic and Mediterranean slavery in the 19th century, but also left sovereign countries in their colonial wake which seem to be better off today than they would have been otherwise (the infrastructural apparatus for governance left in place). I'm not pro-anything per se, and am not a British citizen. Stephen Fry's message that 'nothing is as cut and dry as we once thought', is a worth stance.
Please, good sir, have 'the Fry' back for a long, long conversation. Prepare a good three hours and I think he would be pleased to indulge us all. So many of us have a raging brainer for Stephen Fry.
As a patriotic Englishman I couldn't be more proud of Stephen as an intellectual export of our little island. He comes from the higher class of society here but has been taken down to a lower class simply because he likes to cuddle boys not girls, he's been an addict and suffered serious mental illness but despite all this and much more he has stayed mainstream and educated and made people laugh along the way when he could so easily been a shrinking violet and been forgotten.. One of my favourites to listen to(check him&hitchins or J peterson). This was meant to be a quick comment🙂 Big love to the Fryer! 💜
"America was founded by people who read Kant..." Now it's run by people who Kant read!
+rickpur100 and people who 'kant' spell .
+rickpur100 I enjoyed this too much
+rickpur100 Hahaha The same is true about the Brazilian Congress! I just loved your comment!
+Thomas McDonald Are you ? Considering you couldn't comprehend the joke. but i think we can both agree given that your only recourse was to offer an insult. would be to assume you're feeble minded.
+rickpur100 nice one.
+The Rubin Report: Major credit goes to you Dave, for doing your job as an interviewer. You let your guest speak. You didn't make it about you, as much as about drawing responses from Fry. That's what we wanted to see. And you did a damn good job mate :D
+Grae “seven” Hall I agree, and he does that with basically all of his interviews. I definitely enjoy his style of interviewing people.
agreed
Not to be prickish, but is this your first Rubin Report? All Rubin is doing here is taking a classic tradition of television interviewing that actually used to be the fucking norm until the 1980's when we got things like 'Crossfire'
Stephen Fry is a perfect example that there is never an excuse to forget one's manners.
Such a proper English gentleman, hats off to him.
Baseball hats? lol
Well said.
"Grow up, stop feeling self-pity," said Stephen to the rape victim in a mannerly and gentlemanly fashion.
@@DaveDexterMusic Pardon? How is that relevant to anything that is being glossed here, and when has he ever said that?
And a gentleman who champions swearing like a trooper! 😅
Stephen Fry is a gift to humanity. I wouldn’t imagine that I’d always agree with him but my god I’d love to share a beer and a laugh with him.
but that's the thing, he seems the type of person who you would enjoy even disagreeing with because he just sounds like someone who is capable of hearing an opposing opinion and not crucify you for it and would rather simply ask you why and actually listen to the answer.
@@alisfromwonderland5723 totally agree one of the UKs greatest humble person we have, I love him, intelligence is everything ❤️👍
I'd also love to have an ale with him.
He's wonderful, isn't he? The sort of man I'm proud to share my nationality with.
@@robmarrin6720 Fry is wonderful despite his intellect, not because of it. Karl Marx was intelligent. Josef Mengele was intelligent. Charles Manson was intelligent. Intelligence is just a metric, it is not an arbiter.
74% of us think angels walk the earth?! That's sad.
Ah...okay.
+L Beatrice Batz Well, as of 2015, more than half of Britons now believe in ghosts, and the number is rising. So, Americans aren't alone in their superstitious thinking.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/ghosts-britons-belief-supernatural-rise-4395662
+L Beatrice Batz I don't think 3 out of 4 people are even religious so there is no way this number is true. My only guess is the poll was conducted at Sunday church services.
+L Beatrice Batz Well of course it is, angels fly!
+Ben Modica check your statistics, most by a majority are religious
Stephen Fry is one of those people whom you can sit with for hours on end, discussing every possible topic under the sun, and never, ever, get bored. In fact, it would be an education.
The closest you will probably come to that, is reading his book series on myths and legends. Can't recommend it more
@@jdb7578 There is a free audiobook of 'Troy' on RUclips. Narrated by Mr. Fry. It's delightful
Agree entirely.
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"Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity." - Stephen Fucking Fry, ladies and gentleman.
Coming from someone with the "N" word on their youtube profile....ladies & gentleman
I listen to a lot of Hip Hop.
not a reasonable or intelligent response, FYI
Really? A member of the PC/Social Justice brigade has managed to meander his way out of his safe space where no one ever uses words he doesn't like and somehow finds himself looking down his nose at my comment and trying to insinuate that - in an ironic twist - I have a really bad case of self pity because I used the word “nigga” on my profile. Are you triggered, man?
Given that you only posted to give a passive aggressive insult to what looks like someone just saying a statement as plain and simple as 'I like Stephen Fry', trying to backpedal onto the moral high ground now seems like... exactly what I called you already. It's not name calling if it's true dude, even if you feel all upset about it because I wasn't a snide passive aggressive baby about it like you were. Calling a spade a spade, here, and you're a dick.
I can go into excruciating detail if you really want, because I can see you don't have a leg to stand on here that doesn't involve basically pointing to OP and saying 'but I'm not as bad as hiiiiiimmmm!' just like that 5 year old niece you mentioned. You're really that confident with your contextual position here?
When you have Fry on the show all you need to do is start him off with a question or two and he'll give you 10 minutes of excellent tv ^^
"Life is complicated, and no one wants to believe it's complicated." True words Stephen Fry. True words indeed.
***** No ideology, science, society, culture, race, differences, preferences, facts, opinions, etc. make it complicated. You are one of the people that would like to live a life of ignorance.
***** So you have no level of self reflection either? I'm not going to bother arguing with you. You seem very set in your ways. I will just say that no one is going to benefit from people trying to make the complex world that we live seem simpler than it is. We need people who will embrace problems and complexities and try to find solutions. Not people who will let their "moral compass" passively steer them around the tough gritty stuff the world is made of.
It's only as complicated as you make it. It's possible to make it simple. First thing, stop listening to prattling numbskulls like these two dolts.
+August Celine III Life is not that complicated.
You get up, you go to work, eat three meals, you take one good shit and
you go back to bed. What’s the fucking mystery?! - George Carlin LOL xD
The fact that so many people acutally denounced Fry after this interview for being mean just shows how right he is.
+Alex Spadge Gods, that is so damn true. So true and painful to see the world as it is today.
A shame he apologized, though.
What interview??
+Alex Spadge self fulfilling prophecy?
+Sergey I can't tell if that was supposed to be a serious or a humorous comment, because I can't hear your tone over the Internet.
If this was a joke, yeah, Fry hijacked David's show which is funny
But if you were serious: this interview obviously :)
"Life is complicated and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated" , perfect statement!
Derek Wildash I disagree with this, everything is simple. You can break things down into to their simplest elements to understand the bigger picture.
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein
Not saying I'm MLGpro.
Life is simple, life exists to continue existence. Life is full of simple truths. People can complicate simple truths in an effort to amass power; it is called manipulation.
The simple truths are these: I life has value and it should be protected. Sentient life and the potential of such is rare and even more valuable. A life that is happy requires sentience and such a life is the most valuable. The seeking of happiness requires the ability to make choices.
It is upon these truths that the United States of America's declaration of independence was based upon to distinguish and separate its self from the old monarchies of the past.
"Where America leads Britan follows." It was, in fact, the freedom that America enshrined that has swayed these old Monarchies into effective democratic representative governments. It isn't the monarchy that makes these nations free, it is the ability for the people of these nations to determine their own future. Freedom is not compatible with Aristocracy, that is another simple truth of life.
It is simple, it's just not simple in the way people want it to be simple. People want it to be simple in the "Right or Wrong" "Good and Evil" kind of way. But the world has no good, it has no evil, it just has stuff. What we consider good and evil is subjective, what is considered good today, may be evil in a hundred years or so.
Ironically however, I'd argue that Stephen Fry here is being too simplistic. For example the "Trigger" stuff he mentions, in some cases, yea, get over it, you have to make an actual effort to get over it, because you'll encounter this stuff regardless. However, it's also important to keep in mind that doing something that you know hurts someone, and continuing doing it, is a dick move. So yea, like his own words state: Everything's (at least that's to do with social stuff with humans) is complicated.
WOW FUCK YES.
It kind of comes off that way, doesn't it? But I don't think he really meant that. It seems a big problem today on both the right and left to see things too simply. On each side they seem to say, "the problem is simple! and I have a simple answer to it all! and if you disagree you are a (fill in the blank) a racist, a traitor, a bigot, a socialist libtard, brainwashed, a moron, etc etc. Fry advocates that we look at these problems with open minds and clear thinking - free of dogma and free to say whatever we want, without being harassed and pilloried. If you want to call me a moron, I'm fine with that. But you had better be able to explain in clear detail why I am. Otherwise, I don't care and neither should you.@Gerr Gerring
Why are there so few intellectuals like Steven Fry speaking out .
What's your view on certain statues being pulled down?
Look what happened to Jordan Peterson. The backlash from the morons is no where near as strong as the support these guys should get. It is political and career saving. The left will block you, have you fired, removed from social media because you risked offending them by not agreeing with them and their victim mentality. It’s a binary system they have 0 good 1 block and destruct nothing in between.
@@brianbrooking496 Unfortunately, from either side of the political spectrum, it's the loudest voices that are often the only ones heard. It's not the entire left who think like this anymore than the entire right are flag-waving Nazi-saluting white supremacists. It's the media and the politicians themselves who have pushed this polarisation and created a binary system where you are either a leftist tree-hugging offended-by-everything nutter or a right-wing Nazi-apologist thug (or some other such exaggerated label). People, on BOTH sides, need to stop buying into this false dichotomy and listen to each, accepting that people have different views and opinions. We should all try to listen a bit more and be grown-ups. That said, I think there are instances where certain people should be removed from certain platforms, or have warnings displayed when patently false information is being disseminated.
Old Nelson its just an offended generation sadly. Next “special needs” will have to be renamed for risk that the millennials may feel they are not special and are offended. Statues of religious figures will be pulled down because they offend others. The loudest voice is usually the most frightened voice. Sadly I am worried for this generation as they need to get a grip on reality, that opinions can offend and thats ok.
Oxford university student magazine called “No Offence” was banned from the annual freshers fair, on grounds it may “cause offence”. The kids today need a “safe space” where I feel they need to “get out more” interact with the world physically and not just sit and be manipulated by social media. Anyway.....
Old Nelson HERE HERE!!!
This man just oozes intelligence.
I know! The same feeling as hitchens to me
except her forgets the side effects of the "enlightenment" socially were people forgetting their duties and thinking about personal comfort and fun. They would send off their newborns and check up on them when they could be potentially profitable, many of these kids died, dropped from carriages and run over. No one cared. That's the "enlightenment" sociologically speaking.
Yeah, and grease.
No, he isn't. The USA was founded by religious people, while the French revolution was done by seculars...
No, he isn't. The USA was founded by religious people, while the French revolution was done by seculars...
"Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity... Get rid of it".
"Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity, because no one is going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself."
+aWizardfromEarth Yet, Stephen Fry is the father of self pity... from his school days to his mental states. Therefore his comments are completely disingenuous.
+AminTheMystic What are you even talking about my guy
Vinny Lambert
If you cannot figure it out... then I cannot really be bothered to explain.
+AminTheMystic you have just made a comment of a person who does not know what he is talking about. Vinny asked you a question all he wanted was an answer to your comment not to have a childish answer of I cannot be bothered.
Ian Mitchell
Who the fuck are you to question anyone? Fuck off you troll.
We had The Enlightenment, now we have The Entitlement.
Awesome comment
Underrated comment. Extremely appropriate phrase describing our devolution.
Hahah ooooh yeah... welcome to The Age of Entitlement!
Fry is wonderfully articulate and sensible, a real asset to the world.
Shipwreck bp Point taken.
Fry's partly right about the freedom. Before the left went batshit crazy, they had a lot of things on their side. There's at least a dozen or so freedoms involved when you get treated with dignity and opportunities to escape from poverty if you were born into a poor family, for instance. That said, they've since gone WAY TOO FAR with the regressive SJW and feminist crap.
Not sure what you mean by more chance to escape from poverty. I'd say by far and above the USA has the most from pauper to prince success stories (I may be wrong, but I'm not). So could you be a little more clear on your statement. Are you talking about being above the poverty line due to welfare from the state? In that regards I'll agree with you. The U.S.'s welfare system is rife with corruption and is more of a yoke than an aid. On the flip side of that is that those countries have extremely high tax rates and costs of living that take from those who work hard to balance out/subsidize those that don't work hard or aren't able to.
But I'll concede that without a doubt there are good points (and bad points) to almost any country. And the USA is far from number one which is why so many people want to see a change.
Shipwreck bp There wouldn't be enough room in the comments to do justice to a "Left vs Right" debate. In short, there are good things to be said about free public health care, free or at least cheap education, state housing instead of homelessness and a few other things like that. You said it already with keeping people above the poverty line.
OTOH, if costly things are too cheap and easy to obtain, the beneficiaries have no reason to value them, and the benefactors could rightly become resentful.
TBH I think the debate has never been fully "solved", which is why it keeps raging in society.
Pauper to prince success stories can be a great motivator, or not, depending on how you look at them. For most people, their life will remain a struggle even if they're really talented. Or they could labour under an illusion that they're "doing great things", even if they're just repeating the same tasks that 1000s or millions of other people are doing. Is covert wealth redistribution (competitive make-work, superficial diversity, and other capitalist chest-beating) really all that different from overt socialist redistribution?
I recall a great scene from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, where factory workers were desperately unwrapping chocolate bars and trying to find a Golden Ticket. It seems like a great metaphor for a competitive marketplace. The duds with no Golden Ticket are still bullshit no matter what reward scheme is used to pay the workers.
+meh_hi_there You are right about that. There isn't enough room in the comments for a left vs right debate. They both have their bad parts just at the moment one side is much worse than the other. I won't deny that choosing one over the other is almost always choosing the lesser of two evils. Whether that be - left vs right or capitalism vs socialism. But for the record.
Unequivocally, Yes it is wrong to make other people pay for others especially when those other people are just using the system so they don't have to work. It is despicable when people don't even try to lift themselves but want others to do it for them. OTOH, for those that do honestly try to succeed and don't give up because their dream didn't happen overnight. I have the utmost respect for those people.
I, myself, came from a very poor family, but I worked hard and although I am not a prince I am not a pauper either. I own my own house and property paid for with cash not because I am rich but because I saved and live a simple life. A lot of people are in debt and poverty not because they are poor but because they feel entitled to everything so they go out and spend foolishly and or gamble (like your Charlie and the Chocolate Factory scenario - lotteries are just self delusion for 99.9% of people) , do drugs, max out several credit cards, etc... And in general only live for the here and now and 'keeping up with the Joneses' attitude. And that is partially the fault of the state for not teaching better human life skills like economics in school and instead focusing on stupid stuff like if it is okay to call someone a him or a her. Granted manners are important, but worrying if calling someone a him or her doesn't really help at all in the reality of daily life. (the following sarcasm) Because goodness gracious that's what's important is the use or non-use of pronouns and PC language in a country that most people can't even balance their check book.
Had I lived in say Sweden (57% income tax) instead of saving for my house to purchase out right (no banks, no mortgages) which took roughly 10 years (roughly 28% income tax for me here in the USA) of savings it would have taken a significantly longer time for me to do that. So yes, I'd say capitalism (which is by no means perfect) is better than socialist states/countries.
Btw, just curious, are you from the USA or someplace else?
I like how he's getting more grumpy and outspoken as he gets older like Richard Dawkins
Hi, Anton. Seen Nice, France, lately? That's political correctness that led to that. It could happen in Sweden, too. That is...if the Swedes aren't so passive that they simply get outpopulated without a shot. That's believable. I do believe the Muslim birthrate their (not to mention immigration) is a tad bit higher than the Swedish birthrate.
***** What's Nice got to do with political correctness? Do you even know what political correctness is.
JT...this often occurs when a leftist is confronted with a post like I made; they 1) profess 'puzzlement,' 2) attempt to assume ownership of the term 'political correctness', (which they refuse to even define, themselves) and then 3) attempt to make it sound like it's OTHERS who don't know that definition, when they simply point out the results of political correctness...which, as you and everyone else already knows, is the collective, dogmatic, 'progressive' view of all things that allows or tolerates ZERO dissent. It is applicable to any political view in existence: in this case, the unchecked invasion of hundreds of thousands of non-European immigrants into Europe, and the near-total lack of assimilation of either them or their descendants into their host countries...and further, the open, stated goal of many of these migrants to outpopulate Europeans and replace them with an Islamic caliphate...and to roam about all but freely and inflict whatever kind of mayhem and carnage they can against the infidels, in the process -- just as we saw in Nice, and Paris, and London, and Madrid, and Brussels -- and to count on the continued finger-wagging of the 'progressive' proletariat against ANY common-sense measures that would halt such foolishness: like closing the borders against ANY new such migrants, and expelling vast numbers of those already in Europe. One way or another, it's coming to a head...and these matters will be addressed now, or even more poignantly, in the future.
***** So the problems with migrants in europe is more to do with the EUs boarder/foreign policies, then the concept of political correctness, wouldn't you say?
Political correctness sure ain't perfect, but its better than it was 30+ years ago when racism and sexism was commonplace.
I hope he doesn't become like Dawkins, the obnoxious prick
So refreshing to see a celebrity actually talking like this and not allowing his views to be censored. He's absolutely right, too.
+Danny O'Gara There's a reason why he and Christopher Hitchens were such good friends. I'm sure you can see why.
"Self-pity is the ugliest emotion."
I'd argue it is hate. At least self-pity only hurts one person.
@Gerry Atric Some (but not all) of the time.
Occasionally, self-pity visits our thoughts, and emotions; it's our place to end a self conversation to get on reclaiming our energy for good thoughts, deeds, kindness, and trusting our Heavenly Father, and creator.
💞🙏🗽🇺🇸🌎
@@kccox8516 iam atheist so no I dont trust in your heavenly father and creator. Pls dont speak for others. Also this ignore the bad only think in good thing is bullshit. Good luck with depression.
but self-deprecation can be very funny.
my respect for Stephen Fry literally knows no bounds.
same here.
Fry is one of the most wonderful minds of our times
seriously. he's amazing.
One of the well known ones...
from where do you get your information?
Not to desire.
Amen to that.
Stephen Fry is now on my top ten list of people for whom I would buy ales all night, just to listen to his refreshing views.
+tiggergolah Get educated read a fucking book.
+cagno1 weird.
+cagno1 Some people like to read alone in their rooms, some like to engage in discussion with interesting people. Some like to do both.
+cagno1 I like to read, but what the hell is wrong with wanting to listen to a great thinker like Fry talk?
"too some people the renaissance is just something that happened to other people, isn't that right baldric?".
~Blackadder
Gold!!!
Not "too" rather "to".Just pointing out a typo?
"Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity"
My respect for him has just gone up even more. Dave, get him back for a full interview ASAP please!
We dont suffer a little from political correctness in Sweden, we suffer ALOT.
Oh please, tell us exactly how we "suffer" in Sweden? There's alot of suffering out in the world. Hunger, poverty and war to mention a few. Getting snapped at by some political correct journalist for having critical opinions about immigration isn't suffering, that's just being sensitive and special snow flake.
Anton Karlsson Well, we suffer from police and media covering up crimes, we suffer from uncontrolled immigration, spikes in crime such as rape and murder, child-brides, women who fled here to escape living under sharia law find themselves more controlled in Sweden than they did back home in the middle-east, honor-crimes, mass-sexual assaults on young women and boys.
Do you need me to go on or is this enough?
Anton Karlsson Also, I wrote that we suffer from political correctness. Nothing else. I havent talked to a journalist, ever, so I dont know where that came from.
HerbalNuggets We have closed boarders and tons of legislation against immigration, so you're lying. It's also a lie that Sweden would be a dystopia where raping and crime are more common than anywhere else. In fact, Sweden is one of the safest places on earth if you look at actual statistics.
So quit your lying and trash talking of our country. I'm proud to be a Swede and all that we stand for. Your self hatered is just sad.
Dick
Holy shit! You got Stephen Fry? Can't wait for the full video!
He is genuinely the most down to earth man.
I've done work for him, and he is very humble.
He makes you question yourself, far deeper than you are comfortable going.
I feel like his character Gordon Wyatt on Bones was just him being him, not playing a character and the way you describe him makes me belive it even more
A much beloved Swedish radio personality and humorist
(hist best friend and job partner for decades made the film
that made Stellan Skarsgård a household name,
to place him in a frame that might be familiar to people outside of Sweden),
Tage Danielsson, who was also a bit of a philosopher, said
what I hope is translatable to "Without doubt, you are not sane".
(It is ambiguous in Swedish, and I hope I managed to make it so in English, too.)
Ideology is the enemy of doubt, and therefore of reason and pragmatism.
Ideology means going with the map instead of with the ground.
Ideology replaces reason for those who do not dare or manage to think for themselves.
Communists will think that if the state decides everything, all problems will go away.
Market maniacs will think that if the market decides everything, all problems will go away.
And there are religious ideology and other ideologies that are just the same.
Pragmatists will not shy away from realising that the aim of a law might not be the outcome,
and that the same law might have another outcome if there are changes in society.
The goal of pragmatists is a certain outcome.
The goal of ideologues is for their ideology to prevail.
I fear ideology, ideologies and ideologues.
Why are people upset about what he said? He is right and he doesn't mean it in a slandering way he is basically saying for you to grow up and move on and stop feeling sorry for yourself and to not waste your life by doing it. People are so easily offended smh
I could listen to Stephen Fry speak for hours.
I don't mind the original idea of political correctness, that we should be well mannered and respectful to each-other... but the current form it takes on social media is just ball flatteningly bizarre. You have kids on tumblr using strange insider non-self-explanatory jargon, and expecting instant outrage at those who fail to use it.
I agree. we can respectively disagree. but, people go into such a rage.
#ballflatteningly
+Ingenue Blue Jesus you idiot you mean RESPECTFULLY do you or are you illiterate? FFS
Kevin Russell What's wrong?
Ingenue Blue Hi. I'm pretty sure you don't mean "respectively". Thank you.
"Just grow up."
The perfect advice in this age of nonsensical self pity
Octavia Minor - It was an excellent point! I absolutely love Stephen Fry, but I couldn't help feeling he slightly undermined his own point about casting off the sugary drinks and baseball-caps of childhood when I spotted below the table that he was wearing those Converse style skater shoes!
@@K1lostream They're comfortable!
man really said "you got raped? grow up."
The example he gave is not an nonsensical self pity, but even he is not immune to making an judgmental, unempathical statements. Well, he is not omniscient. Kind of harsh of him.
Infantilism. Fry nails it. Not an elegant word but it strikes at the heart of the matter.
so should all the statues of those US Presidents who supported slavery......
Fry - not his best interview but he is still a million miles above most people.
He comes from Norwich which is where i live.
Square In Square You do or you'd of ignored me idiot.
Wow, what the hell crawled up your ass? lol
Yeesh ... Asses just filled up with nasties in this thread, huh? :/
including Dave Rubin
i think the lack of dislikes speaks to the notion that all the outraged people from buzzfeed or wherever didn't even come here to understand the context of the opinion they disliked
I always enjoy listening to Stephen Fry speak. He has such wonderful insight and intelligent perspectives to share with others.
Yaay! Stephen Fry! The awesomeness of this man knows no bounds!
"Life is complicated, and no one wants to believe that life is complicated." Precisely.
Pleeeeease get him back for a full hour. Or two... or ten... I could listen to Stephen Fry all day :)
As a farm boy my Dad was always saying little "ditties"! One was his favorite...."before you remove a fence, ask why it was there to begin with"! Every person should ask the question about the fences of morality! Dare ya!
Wow, your father was so smart..that was/is a beneficial lesson in life! Thx for sharing.
You got Stephen Fry! You've come a long way Rubin!
I think Fry is my favourite Brit in the universe.
+John Interns He's like the jollier version of Paul Waston.
John Interns Him and Hitch were a formidable force in the atheist world. Fry is extremely eloquent, though I often find myself Googling the odd word he casually throws into his talks.
Ashley Small you shouldn`t have to google words, mate. Being as well-read as Fry isn`t really all that hard.
John Interns Which is why I educate myself by Googling words I don't recognise; such as ecclesiasticism, which I didn't know prior to this interview.
I'm not ashamed at all to admit that I'm not a walking dictionary, and even less ashamed to admit that I look up words I don't know.
"Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one is going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself. The irony is we'll feel sorry for you if you stop feeling sorry for yourself; just grow up."
+donnyinlakai561 "Everyone is entitled to their own sorrow, for the heart has no metrics or form or measure."
Demian Haki
It's a complex issue with no simple solution, and both individuals and organizations are trying to push their decisions on everyone.
Given the complexities of human emotion, saying that everyone should simply "Grow up" is nothing less than insulting. Coming from a man as well-informed as Mr Fry, it's like a general attempting to slap the post-traumatic stress out of his men.
Mr Fry should know better than to think it's simple a matter of immaturity. Certainly, there are individuals and factions that take this matter too far, but there is a solid grounding behind the basic concept of safe spaces.
I could listen to Fry all night. A gentleman and a scholar!
Anyone can remember things they are taught or read from a book, IF they have a good memory.
It's nice to come from a rich background and be sent to posh universities, as opposed to the second-class ed-yoo-kay-shun the rest of us receive.
Anyone can be a 'scholar' if they have all the lucky breaks.
I don't worship those who did, nor do I regard them any more authority on any subject than me or you.
A friend of mine scored a MENSA level of 133 - top 8% - when he was falling asleep during the tests, due to his MS.
He's from a working class background and crap state schooling.
That is more remarkable in my opinion and it is an opinion only.
kickboxer and an acrobat?
kickboxer
You are right he is a gentleman and a scholar, however, this scholar whoofed on the opportunity to tell truths about black ppl being the backbone of America. Instead, he regurgitated damaging propaganda rhetoric about the gun violence in Chicago. Now, ppl who LISTEN to Fry will be mislead to the truths about black ppl.
kickboxer A gentleman and a scholar!...And a flirty minx, haha :)
He is an intellectual that happen to be actor n comedian. But has gigantic intellect.
Never has this been more relevant... Especially in the UK
Relevant insofar as it's topical. His opinion comes across as rather facetious, given the present politics.
@@MissBlennerhassett876 in your opinion. Not in mine.
@@jirdcon Well duh.
@@MissBlennerhassett876 well reasoned response there Dan, are you 3?
@@jirdcon Pretty appropriate response to a remark as banal as yours, Captain Obvious.
Holy shit. It's Stephen fuckin Fry!
+nikkijaneallison Videos liked: Stephen Fry, Bill Burr, great music and Brick Lane curry houses. I think we should marry!
and?....do you think Stephen Fry would defend someones right to preach "hate" against homosexual marriages?.......or would he be the first to want them thrown in jail for exercising their free speech against homosexuality?
I love that he loses his train of thought when discussing clear thinking, now that's comedy!
+James Laing-Smith
I find people like that to be far more interesting than people are are only ever on point.
And it proves that the person speaking aren't just regurgitating someone else's thoughts and opinions.
And the really clever part is that he still makes great points.
Filip Molin
Pretty sure it's "trail of thought", just to confirm your thoughts. That is, unless you were just acting uncertain.
Agree with Stephen 100%. For this to have caused so much outrage only serves to prove his point.
+Tyson Richmond How do you figure?
+Rachel Coleman It's an example of people thinking like infants. They are unable to see the point of what he is saying, only the words, and they follow it literally. They think this is actually him being mean to victims of sex abuse. It triggers them, bringing back every time their mummy or daddy didn't give them as much sympathy as they wanted, and they start to project. On Stephen, on Twitter, on anyone who would listen. Soon it didn't matter whether anyone was listening at all, only the outrage. The greatness of the outrage, like a badge, a shield in fact. Don't look at me and why I am incapable of comprehending only a single layer of subtext, look at my outrage. Like a dragon spitting fire, destroying every adult thought and word ever uttered.
seriously?...its the political left that are the ones who get outraged and call for cans on "hate speech"...........be careful what heros you pick
What an ambassador for Britain! There are probably quite a few things I would disagree with him over, but I'm 100% sure he would engage in civilised debate over them and conduct himself like a thorough gentleman and scholar.
and exactly that's what matters, a civilised debate between two person and after that may be an ice cream or beer with them, that's how society grow
The fact that you wouldn’t always agree with him 100% shows that you think critically and put things up for discussion, and I think Stephen would appreciate that.
Exactly. Spot on.
My favorite human being on earth. Referring to Fry, of course.
"self pity is the ugliest emotion of humanity"
love it!
You NEED an hour with Stephen Fry. Make it happen!!
You have to get Stephen back for a full interview, one of the UK's best exports, love to to listen to him.
**Throws underwear at monitor**
wtf
Downvoted, you're a disgrace.
Mark Knight
Why is you are outraged?
Plague Doctor I meant the guy above, not you. I agree with Stephen Fry says 100%.
Mark Knight
Oh.
Todd Howard
Why is you are outraged?
Wow, What a refreshing piece with genuine introspection.
After TYT's playground perspective this is like the dawn of Enlightenment
political correctness is the death of comedy
And of democracy.
Yes it is . . . and then certain ideas . . . and then certain books . . . and then certain people . . . and then all people not in a certain group
PC is just another set-up for a punch-line.
It's really not and if you really think it hinders comedy or democracy then may I suggest that you learn more words. The only people being against political correctness benefits are the people who are already in power.
@@johnmoonitz2968 May I suggest that anti-PC is purely there to oppress and belittle groups of society? Why else would you want to be an arsehole for no reason?
Pretty much all of the worst governments in history have violently targeted large subsections of society. They wouldn't have been able to reduce certain groups of people to rats or cockroaches if their language was policed and scrutinised.
The problem with Fry is that he believes people are like him. He's egotistical and assumes that most people have the same views as him, when they don't. Most people wait for the most simplistic explanation of the problems they see in society. This explanation is typically given by people who use minority groups as a scapegoat and in my mind, the right to live without fear of persecution should come ahead of the right to be a cunt that uses language that directly leads to genocide and other unfavourable ideals. Never, ever under estimate the power of words, every human tragedy in the history of humankind started off as just words.
The way he says " I love this country ".
I remember watching one of his shows of traveling across America, and although you could see clear differences between Fry's worldview and some of the people he came across, I found him to always be open, gracious and curious about people who are different than he is. Not an ounce of condescension towards the people he met. My respect for him really increased after seeing how he treated people.
It's this type of person that makes me look in the mirror and ask myself if I can do better.
The BeNeLux AND Holland! We were mentioned twice! How special! ;-)
No no, Holland, the 2 provinces, THEN The other 9, then Luxembourg, then that fantasy state of Belgium.
Ik dacht dat we 12 provinciën hadden.
Debbie321lopez Yea 12. My bad.
Hey i live in that fantasy state !
Greetings neighbours :).
For credibility : I am a cat with a little hat and a moustache.
I think we should explain: Benelux = Belgium, Netherlands, Luxemburg.
Now anyone who knows what Scandinavia stands for? :)
Stephen Fry is the man.
+Martin Mehawk the 'dirty old' man
+Mullerornis What are you talking about, mate? I've known he's gay for as long as I remember knowing the man. What the hell should I care what he is sexually interested in, I'm not interested in his body or what bodies he likes I'm interested in his brain and the words he says.
Can't even describe how excited I was seeing Stephen Fry as your guest. This should be a good one.
+Dr. Jimes Tooper I could never beat you! GRRRRRrrrrrr
Stephen Fry is an individual that I never tire listening no matter what topic. Mr. Fry is truly an intelligent, personable, and talented man. This topic of political correctness has great personal meaning myself. Specifically intolerance.
Really interesting thoughts.
"Life is complicated, but no one want's to believe it's complicated"...something to take to heart. Nothing is black and white, everything is a gray area.
+Mats Lindblad That's racist, you're denying the existence of black, I'm totes triggered right now.
+Huron .Blackheart Funny, very funny. :)
Infantilism of our culture! Stephen Fry you absolutely nailed it there. 8:40
+Peter Caires prig
+Thumper Shutup Meg.
+Peter Caires
Yep, the most important point of the whole segment. I would love a movement where adults start upbraiding other adults for this behaviour. 40 year olds listening to Taylor Swift, excitedly lining up for the latest Batman or Star Wars offering . . . damn, where have all the cool adults gone?
There's nothing wrong with not liking something like a play involving rape or something because it offends you or whatever, the issue is when you start telling other people that they should also be offended, and that nobody should be allowed to enjoy said play.
One of the greatest polymaths of the modern age. Love him so.
Dave Rubin, I don't know if you have a line of communication to Stephen Fry or not, if you do please let him know the thinking people in the world did understand his point, we know he was not attacking abuse victims and the progressives are clearly acting out of defensive panic because he was threatening their dogma. I am certain he already understands this but a little re assurance never hurts.
Thank you for everything you do here, never stop!
+Quacks Dashing *the regressives* ;)
+Niall Horisk They are indeed regressive, But I'll call them whatever they like, It doesnt change the filth on the inside. :)
+Niall Horisk They are indeed regressive, But I'll call them whatever they like, It doesnt change the filth on the inside. :)
I love love love Stephen Fry, he makes me proud to be British.
+MrVideoKnight haha I'm sorry.
+Zoe Barber He makes me proud to be human. :)
+Zoe Barber
Hell, he makes me proud to be American.
Fry is one of the few people I can class as a personal hero. Magnificent man.
He is indeed
Then you are all idiot's then but I guess having white supremacists as you're hero explains a lot about you.
@@jermaineedwards8384 who is a supremacist? Oh, and it's your, in this case.
@@Dave1507 I explained who so don't ask silly questions in this case and this is not a spelling test so calm you're You're little ego down.
@@jermaineedwards8384 You didn't explain anything, and that's exactly why I asked my silly question. You just stated something of which I haven't seen any evidence yet. Take your own advice and try again.
People who try to forget history will also in time forget the lessons!
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!" - Person I forgot
I think ignorance isn't so much of a problem as is ignorance about one's own ignorance.
-My personal quote.
This is so true! Let’s be honest all ages of civilisations have had terrible things happen within them. However, as they progressed through the ages, the next age learned lessons from the ones before. But did they remove the past. NO. The faced it, conquered it and moved on. This is the progress of the ages. The term political correctness, in it’s own right has been stripped and Beaton within an inch of it’s life. The term is thrown around now to suit what ever agenda people want it to serve! People throw things like race and gender under this banner, when those things do not fit within it! If you are talking about gender equality or mending the roads of race, these are discussion’s on equality not political correctness.! Our ancestors fought wars to protect our freedoms. 100’s and thousands of men women and children have died in the pursuit of Freedom. The new woke culture impinge’s on that freedom, and denies history the right to insert it’s self into the modern day. We may not always say what is right or acceptable, but, we have the right to say it! Sorry i got a little of topic and I apologise.
That's one of the reasons an increasing number of red states are banning the teaching of parts of American History.
The way the media is spinning on what Stephen said is predictable yet atrociously exaggerated and manipulating of them.
Liked before I even watched.
+Col
How irrational of you.
All my British people say wuuuut
+Henry Jermyn Hello.
+Henry Jermyn u wot?
+Henry Jermyn You fuckin' wot mate?
+Henry Jermyn wot wot ol' chap
wuuuut!
"To be born british is to have drawn the first prize in the lottery"
-> checking his privilege before it was cool
We are a gift to the world. ;)
And yet, Stephen Fry makes a big and worthy attempt to produce enough to make that lottery prize worthwhile. Everything he is involved in is better for his involvement.
On the other hand, if I have to choose between somebody who believes in "angels" and somebody who believes in "social justice" I will take the angel-trumpeter every time.
No he is not. It's simply because Britain is a one of the most sucessful nations on Earth, we don't apologise to anyone for that fact.
@@puppetsock There are other choices if you listen to Fry, grow up, stop feeling self pity, stop blaming others, stop trying to cancel speech and people you don't like, that comes before 'social justice
@@Mysterywhiteboy78 Everything you mention as "comes before social justice" is completely contradictory to social justice. Social justice is making groups the same, not giving people what they deserve. Social justice is *ALWAYS* evil. It is evil by definition. It wipes out the possibility of people getting what they deserve.
Point of information: The bloodiest civil war in history is still the Taiping Rebellion in China with an estimated 20 million deaths.
In absolute terms, but I suspect as a proportion of the adult population not so. Both are worth noting.
Hong Xiuquan FTW!
What about liberation war in 1949
Fry knows Jack about history, or culture, or science. He's full of opinions, like everyone else. He's also so full of toxins he looks ready to explode. Hypocritical for him to criticize American diet, but he's a shameless know-all and attention hoor.
Didn't Fry get a rather rare scholarship to Cambridge based on his entrance exam scores.... you'd have to assume he's bright enough there? no? Although he did only finish with a 2:1 in English Literature, so he's not a physicist.
I think American doctors and scientists are criticizing the American diet too...and mother nature got in on the act by lambasting the population with type 2 diabetes!
In his autobiography he does mention his intellect and an IQ test he took many years ago, but he doesn't give a score. His comment was that the result worried him because he would much rather be a complete and utter freak rather than on the borderline! I doubt that was the borderline between mildly intellectually disabled and moron!
Always great to hear Stephen Fry share his thoughts.
I lean left and agree with Steve. being liberal should mean more freedom, and dissertation.
pity it hardly ever does
so what about "free speech zones"? and "hate speech laws"?...are you for or against those?............what about all the whiny liberal college students who think certain words and lines of thought should be "banned"?..............................you cant blame this on the political right...its left minded people who started this "political correctness" crap.
Any liberal or leftist I know is for more freedom, clear thinking and against PC nonsense. Most of what you read about it on the internet are fairy tales. Stephen Fry, for example, is a liberal.
can you explain to me who is behind "free speech zones" and "hate speech" bans then?
why isn't Stephen Fry doing a Milo Yianoupoupouloupoulis then and taking about these issues?
Mister Fry, I have nothing but respect for your intellect and opinions, but I'm still gonna drink my Dr. Pepper and watch superhero movies!
And I don't think he would ever take it away from you
I think you missed the point of what he was saying.
I don't think its about watching those movies or not. It's about believing they, and other fictional heroes, are real...
Mr Fry does both. He is a highly cultivated man but he's no snob.
Said DanTheKid
I just want to loop those last two minutes for the rest of my days. Tell it like it is, Fry!
+LordHEF Please check out my new series on political correctness! Short episodes on different interesting topics that stem from regressive ideas.
"life is complicated and no one wants to believe it's complicated." Well said Stephen Fry, well said
+Dave Fischer I liked this, not only because it takes a well-aimed swipe at ALL social media social justice (all sides equally, btw), but also because it's true. Everybody, even Dave here, prefers the comfort of the binary, black-and-white, Us vs. Them birdshit.
holy shit you got Stephen Fry on? amazing
“Cancel Culture” is a central tenet of Woke. This is undeniable. And this is a subject close to my heart. It is because I have had a job thrust upon me. Namely, adjudicating as to who can and who cannot speak before a Society at a British Russell Group University. My remit is not to invite anybody who might “upset” or “trigger” not the majority, but any of our student body.
Now, this has made me reflect on who, historically, I would have to not invite, uninvite or ban from campus.
Plato and Aristotle. They would not be invited on the basis that they thought that the state should censor music. Aristotle also endorsed the institution of slavery and thought that it was “natural.” He is definitely off the list.
Rudyard Kipling: Students at the University of Manchester recently painted over a Kipling poem on the basis that he was “imperialist and anti-Indian.” Imperialist he may have been, but Kipling was born in India. How can he be an Indian anti-Indian? Truly an inverted form of racism if ever there was one. Banned from campus.
George Orwell: He made remarks mocking vegetarians at the end of ‘Road to Wigan Pier.’ His views on freedom of speech would cause deep offence to those who believed in ‘safe spaces.’ Taken off the invitation list.
Martin Luther King Jr.: During his ‘I have a Dream’ speech in August 1963 he made several references to the word “n*gr*”. Now of course, the speech itself is inherently anti-racist. Indeed it is probably one of the most anti-racist speeches in history. However, to your easily-triggered person the context is irrelevant. All that matters is use of some of the naughty ‘trigger’ words. As a consequence he would be uninvited.
Mahatma Gandhi: In Manchester they are erecting a statue to the great man outside the Cathedral. However, this statute was condemned by many students at the University of Manchester on the basis that it, the statute, was ‘racist.’ ‘Racist’ because of some comments that Gandhi made about native black stretcher bearers during the Boer War. Not invited.
John Stuart Mill: Unquestionably “Mr. Woke” of the Victorian era. A pro-feminist; anti-slavery, pro-freedom campaigner before his time. However, he would have to be un-invited. Firstly, because he favoured the death penalty and secondly because, although he was vehemently anti-racist, like Dr. King, he used certain words in his vocabulary that would make the hypersensitive and neurotic go into a feint and then, possibly, into a permanent decline. As a consequence, he would not be invited to speak.
Last, but not least, Karl Marx. Because of derogatory remarks that he made about the Slavic people he would not even make it to the invitations list. In fact, he would be banned from campus.
The trouble is, all that I am left with to invite, or permit to be invited, are the anodyne and dull. Those who have nothing interesting nor new to say. In fact, those speaking pretty much match the mindset of modern students and modern faculty. It is just the bland leading the bland.
I'm no atheist, but I have to agree with Stephen Fry here. Some religious beliefs are really ridiculous.
+SpiritWolf2K fuck off
like... religions apart from your own?
We can't be totally sure, but Smurfs is probably not talking about his or her own religious beliefs.
I laughed when he said Americans believe in angels, because im an american and I believe in angels, HOWEVER ,
I mock people who believe in demons, and the devil...those two things seem utterly ridiculous to me, I can see the humor in my logic, but like fry said, everything's complex
Just some religious beliefs? I would say the vast majority of them are beyond ridiculous its just sophistry.
Wow having Stephen Fry on is quite impressive, not only a famous person, but also a very intelligent and cool guy :-D
I completely agree with Stephen Fry. He needn't have apologized, and the idea that he should need to is the clearest example of exactly what he was saying! Free speech, people. Listen to the entire interview.
Stephen Fry has such a concise and eloquent way of explaining issues that even the most dense of us should be able to grasp what he’s getting at. If only he could visit all the colleges and university’s in both the UK and US and administer a little of this tough love.
HOLY SHIT you got Stephen Fry!!!
I'm not beautiful.
I am profusely endowed with cosmetic enhancements.
Thank you! ;-)
for what?
are you sure you are not filled with physical deficits?
There's a point in "The Owl and the Pussycat" where Barbra Streisand says "I'm not beautiful, I just make you think so" and proceeds to demonstrate how she does it.
Very convincingly!
get over it - then!
Stephen Fry turned down a knighthood because he imagined that being a Sir would feel like "wearing a suit every day of my life". What a guy.
5 years later finding this comment I made and I’m so confused. Can’t find anything about this anywhere and I’m 99% sure it’s not true
@@dersatic9994 he is good pals with the royals so i would guess its complete nonsense.
Love stephen to pieces.
Rubin can take a long walk along a short pier.
You got Sir Fry. I am ceaselessly impressed by you Rubin.
+blablabubles why are you impressed? i dont get it
Peter Clarke Fry is a rather famous and busy man. Rubin has gone from a little RUclips to the hub of classical liberal thought in a short amount of time.
blablabubles fry is rather famous? where and for what?
Peter Clarke He is very well known in England (also in commonwealth countries like my own, but less so) as brilliant polymath and gentleman; a brilliant actor, endless knowledge, an amazing comedian and a unforgiving, sharp commentator on politics, religion, ect.
Peter Clarke en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry
Dave seems a bit star struck.
+Alexander de Montfort surely sarcasm
***** probably had a pre interview chat but i doubt he is in awe..i mean is fry even known in the usa?
Peter Clarke yes, he most certainly is. I’m American and I’ve known about Stephen Fry since the mid-80s.
All his blood went from his brain to his boner
I am still Star struck.. In my room.. Alone.
The thumbs down offends me, how dare you transgress against the greatness that is Fry!?
Stephen Fry is a global treasure.
*british.
we're not letting you corrupt him
@@jamiemcmullan6890 Too late, bud. He belongs to us all now.
@@thorondor4012 nope, fuck the USA it should've been nuked a long long time ago....
Stephen Fry is merely one of Satan's rectal pustules and a godless shit.
@@jamiemcmullan6890 aw someone is still salty about the revolution 😘
What's wrong with statues, pigeons have to shit somewhere?
that's a question for Antifa, perhaps they are jealous of all the attention,lolzz
Well they have convertibles, don't they?
Nothing's wrong with statues he's saying that pulling statues down is dumb and it's not the way to protest or prove a point and all it does is destroy a work of art. Weather people like the statue or not is immaterial it's about the symbolism behind pulling the statues down , like when Moses told the people to pull there statues down in the bible after he'd visited the burning bush and god told him to tell his people idolatry is wrong and they pulled there statues down through to people pulling statues of leaders who committed atrocities down .
Thought:- maybe statues of evil people could be dressed as clowns to make them look stupid or have something else done to remind people of just how evil and atrocious the things they did were so in a thousand years people would still know what Saddam hitler and other evil monstrous leaders did . It would need to be done in a way that nobody could mistake the meaning though because stupid or uneducated people could possibly not understand what a statue stood to represent
I think these particular statues were put up in the 1930s as a specific response to a perceived erosion of white-power. They weren't commemorative really... they were specific acts of racism, which went hand in hand with jim crow, and lynch-mobs.
Still... not to worry... racism is a live and well, and a statue celebrating it is coming to a town near you, any day now:
www.newsweek.com/new-confederate-monuments-are-quietly-going-across-us-690798
My comment was meant as a joke on Southerners. I love Steven Fry. I appreciate a true intellectual as well as talent and wit.
My favourite comedian/activist on this channel.. congratulations to Rubin, what an amazing line up of intellectuals on the show
"You might occasionally throw an egg at it" - the brilliance of this man! So refreshing to hear a bit of balance in the Rhodes Must Fall debate.
Absolutely. What the Triggered Generation don't realise is that irony, satire, just mocking the enemy are so much more effective than throwing a hissy fit. I have to echo Stephen Fry - grow up.
Stephen Fry's clarity of thought seems to compel one to want to dig deeper into the British cultural roots of the modern world. From magna carta and constitutional monarchy to the development of Common Law and early democratic models of representational government, the British pioneering spirit has left a tremendous mark on Western Civilization. The fact that the free vibrant Commonwealth States of the world comprise such immense areas of land and global influence, for material and cultural wealth, certainly brings pause for deeper consideration of our roots. Yes, imperialism was destructive, but it was self-correcting too. The British not only expended immense resources and societal will to end Atlantic and Mediterranean slavery in the 19th century, but also left sovereign countries in their colonial wake which seem to be better off today than they would have been otherwise (the infrastructural apparatus for governance left in place). I'm not pro-anything per se, and am not a British citizen. Stephen Fry's message that 'nothing is as cut and dry as we once thought', is a worth stance.
British cultural roots have less to do with Stephen Fry's intelligence than his love of learning, I think. Find your love of learning instead.
@Paul Wember You'll never get an OBE!
we're sick tbf
Immediate thumbs up for Stephen Fry :D
Please, good sir, have 'the Fry' back for a long, long conversation. Prepare a good three hours and I think he would be pleased to indulge us all. So many of us have a raging brainer for Stephen Fry.
The mind of Stephen Fry is wonderful.
+James Humphreys he's done so many things in life. Just incredible. He even knows 10X more about technology than most people.
+Eva Green it a shame, he is leaving QI
Been in jail too.
As a patriotic Englishman I couldn't be more proud of Stephen as an intellectual export of our little island. He comes from the higher class of society here but has been taken down to a lower class simply because he likes to cuddle boys not girls, he's been an addict and suffered serious mental illness but despite all this and much more he has stayed mainstream and educated and made people laugh along the way when he could so easily been a shrinking violet and been forgotten..
One of my favourites to listen to(check him&hitchins or J peterson).
This was meant to be a quick comment🙂 Big love to the Fryer! 💜