@@mokies7811 I always get a laugh at the difference between the stereotypical average semi competitive YGO player's age and the fact that the TCG minimum age on the box is 6+ while JP's is 9+ if memory serves.
Unironically, it reminds me why I avoided ever going to a local YGO tourney weekly. 80% of the ones playing there were in the "you don't know, then you're at fault and I'm not misrepresenting anything" camp. The sort of kitchen format/casual play groups were basically fine, but the competitive types had the "its not cheating if I'm not caught" self righteous mentality.
@@EpicNinjaShiro Guy describes an environment where cheating is ok aslong you arent caught. So with that i assume there wasnt a person who is only there to keep a watch on the rules, because how else are you gonna get to such a social state? You cant create such a lgs with a judge around who takes himself series..
I do the same as minmin at locals, asking "what does this board do? what has a quick effect?" if they spend a really long time making a board. When I'm asked what a card does, I'll say the effect that is most contextually important, but then say "and it has other effects". Like if I discard Bystial Lubellion for ability, and my opponent asks what it does, I'd say "it searches a Bystial monster to hand, but it has other effects in the grave or in play".
Yeah same, it depends on how competitive the environment is, but if its just locals or something, where the goal is mostly to have fun or learn, I totally accept summarising
I ask clarifying questions so it really is on the opponent. If they said core effect in the grave I would say cool does it do anything else or something like that. Then if they don't give a proper answer they are misrepresenting the game state. If an effect sounds super broken I'll read it to see if there is an out they aren't saying or if they are wrong about the card.
The third story reminds me of my first regional in late 2013. My opponent set up some Noble Knight XYZ with 5 equips, I start my turn trying to use Book of Moon on it and he was like "It can't be targeted". So I asked, "what effect is making it immune to targeting?", to which he says "read my cards" and straight up refused to tell me what the relevant card was. So I read all his cards on field and grave, but I only figured out what card it was on the second pass of reading them (I misread it the first time, classic hidden effect). I was real fucking nettled, but justice was served cause I won with Tiaramisu effect :) (he also called over and argued with the judge cause he didn't understand how Tiaramisu didn't target cards on field)
For the phone theft story if it was me I would have told the guy "Hey we found out who stole your phone" And then when he asks who it was I'd say "I'll tell only you when you give me back the cards you borrowed last year. No cards, no phone."
I'd argue that doing that would be more trouble than it's worth. Of course, this is reading more into the situation and speculation, but I'd guess that the card thief would likely just use those words to accuse you of stealing the phone since you clearly know, and it creates a major headache where you're likely just gonna have to reveal who did it anyways or risk your reputation being tanked. Yeah, the guys a card thief, and there's a chance that they'll blow him off and say he's not reputable enough to take seriously, but it's still not worth the trouble, especially if he later insinuates you cooperated with the phone thief in case something goes weird.
About the Assault Core Atrocity, what I think the most important part of being a good player is not your technical play but being aware of what every on the field and graveyard does. If you just understand what's going on, you are 10x less likely to miss triggers and know what you need to play around.
Stealing and selling a phone is much worse than stealing some cards. Cards are expendable buy new ones, a phone has memories, contacts, and you don't need to continue paying for yugioh cards after they're stolen. You likely do with a phone and will have to buy a new one on top of it. Both theifs but a phone is much worse.
4:22 The Base Exchange (BX) will usually carry them. The base is like a self contained town with its own grocery store, post office, etc etc etc. When I lived in Japan the BX was the prodominate way I got new TCG sets. Farfa is also correct that you also have a PO Box. That PO Box is also considered to be a domestic US Address, for instance. So for the purposes of a TCGPlayer seller it didnt cost them more to send to me, on base, in Japan than someone domestically in the US. It was a single stamp. They would have never known I was in Japan unless they googled the address they were given. Also Farfa asking about the US Military locals. It is, kind of, a thing. We had organized one while in Japan. None of us wanted to play OCG mainly due to the language barrier. So a bunch of Military guys & civilians organized on base & played TCG every sunday. Since i've left, I organized it originally, they still play. We, of course, don't get OTS packs. We do try to gather up prize support. Someone would occasionally put up a box & we'd put up entry to basically help them break even. Occasionally bases will host events for TCGs and such as well to get people interested in these hobbies & one of our guys would help organize the yugioh side of it. So, someone would put up the prizing for that & entry would be required for that as well to ensure the person putting up prizing was again, squared away.
How did he even get 3 copies of it in his opening hand? And why would you accept the offer of 9000 LP for a win when you're already getting the 9000 LP by default?
Gage reminds me of the various stories of people that got caught cheating at tourneys in various games and came back like nothing was wrong. Dzeef's basically right, if you just let multiple wrongs stack up, it leaves the door open later for people to go full endless cycle, cause you'll end up with the attitude of "I can break it if someone else already broke the rules".
On the Assault Core thing: I used to play with a friend (we've fallen out over personal stuff since) who's legally blind. He can still see a little but his field of vision is teeny tiny (like 1.5% of what the average person can see). He always asks for the effects of cards (even the ones he's familiar with) and I usually just read out the whole effect text whenever he asked me. He got so pissed off at me for taking 3 minutes to answer a question like "What does Fire King Avatar Barong do again?" that he started to insist I only read the relevant parts and if he messes something up that it's on him.
I'm shocked they didn't mention the most obvious thing about the art of the deal segment. If you say no, they still have to give you the life points by game mechanic they've activated a trap card they can't just say that will not do the thing they just did if you don't give up the game. It would be like activating upstart goblin and saying' if you don't let me draw four I'm not giving you the life points"
That's why I don't think that story is real. No shot the guy ogre'd through his side deck, sided in 3 gift cards, actually drew all 3 of them, and did it all with the longshot hope that this kid was dumb enough to fall for the trade offer.
With the first story he comments that other members play magic, no way they thought a yugioh card was just hentai unless he posted non official art which I think is what happen 100%
re: "The Smartfon Snatcher", I'd have reported the phone thief to police, or at the very least to the player community (stealing is bad, if this guy stole Little D's phone and sold it I wouldn't trust him not to steal my stuff, or other people's stuff). With that said, they should've reported Little D to the community to begin with, for the same reason. re: "The Art of the Deal", that's the scummiest shit ever. Straight-up bullying a kid. Should've been banned.
I don't like to rule shark but if I give you the out for the thing I'm expecting you to miss, I'm not gonna let you take it back afterwards. The only time I can think of that I've actually done this was in a Magic Modern event, opponent had a non-sick Dragon's Rage Channeler and I was presenting lethal on board, he activates a sorcery that would potentially turn on DRC's Delirium so I ask him "pre-combat or post-combat?" he responds "pre-combat" then the spell ends up turning on his delirium. He attempts to pass turn and I remind him his DRC must attack if able, to which he huffs, accuses me of rule-sharking because I "obviously knew he would do his turn so he could block with the DRC", and then storms out of the store. Apparently he complained a lot about it to anyone who would listen but I offered him the out and he said pre-combat. As for the guy in this video? He offered to let his opponent read the card and his opponent refused, I think its reasonable to explain to your opponent the effect that is relevant at the moment when they ask what it does.
I mean yes it's the guys fault for not reading the card but at the same time if someone asks you should be reasonable and give the full effect, not just say ready the card. Maybe people can't read or might have a reading disability so can't actually read the card.
@Spoon8lld right but a lie of ommision like farfa said is still a lie. That person should have said the full effect not just the effect activated at the time
@lordvika2526 i disagree, since I think it's reasonable to expect to be given the relevant effect and verify yourself, but also I really don't care about this situation at all
The assault core atrocity happened to me a few years ago at nats against dragon link. I was playing nouvelles and every single nouvelles card in my deck was French (because the deck is based on French cuisine) I had a small book with me called (the cook book) which had all of the English versions of the cards in it. I talked to a head judge before the event and they specifically told me that I have to open the book to the specific card in question every time and cannot just hand my opponent the book to translate as they see fit. Anyways, game 3 comes around and we are getting my close to time. I summon the level 3 nouvelles on the field during my opponents turn. I use the effect to draw one.(note that this is game 3 and I had summoned this monster and used both its effects multiple times across both games up to this point) i say that in activating effect to draw one. He asks if it doesn’t anything else, I say “nothing right now, do you want to see the translation again?” He says no and continues to combo. He then has a line to scarlight but it requires him to summon striker dragon eff pop itself summon tracer. When he activates striker dragon eff target itself, I chain the level 3 eff to tribute the striker dragon and itself to the level 5. At this point he says I cheated because I didn’t tell him that the card did that. We call a judge and because he has already read this specific card multiple times across the 3 duels already, they side with me. Forgot to mention that while i was doing my combo turn 1 game 3 he was slow playing hard so that it would be his mp1 when time was called
I think the last story is about wording as well. As awful as it is, I think he wanted to mind-trick the kid cuz if the kid says "okay?" as a question like (okay wtf is this offer) then the guy will make it feel like a consent on the offer from the kid, and if the kid further argues this he might intimidate him (he's just a kid so any strong words will frighten him). F**k that scum I hope he gets banned. The trick also works if you say "okay" as only accepting the 9k LP (not the entire offer) and want to continue the game.. idk he just reminded me of salesmen who always twist their words, maybe I'm wrong
i remember my brother at locals had no response to a guys turn then asked the guy what negates he had and the guy was like no i dont have to tell you that at a locals and then he had too read all the cards and then the guy was complaining that he was slow playing. farfa talking about asking what board they have just reminded me of this
Gage temporarily 404'ing and Farfa wheezing in the background as Dzeef tries to explain the situation to Gage like a father teaching his son how to shave for the first time, is hilarious.
Yeah, two wrongs dont make a right. And frankly, why would you ever trust someone who you *know* stole a phone from someone? What makes you think they wont ever steal from *you*? Still, its funny how Gage is like "I believe people can get better, but stealing Yu-Gi-Oh cards? Life in prison."
Like they said, the context matters. It isn't just someone randomly stealing, it's the dude who's been stealing yours and all your friends cards. Some people really don't learn, seeing as they're older than the group mentioned and actually so childishly. Why would my friend steal from me? I didn't steal from them? Also, the term stolen is giving a lot of weight here. It was left somewhere and picked up, and just not returned. It wasn't pulled from a backpack or something, it was just picked up. (They made an update post saying such) I am sure you have friends that do petty things, and you wouldn't hold it against them. This situation is simply that, petty.
@@DrakonPhD To be fair, it's not like THEY stole it. And the dude who did it wasn't even part of their friend group. Stealing is wrong from both sides, but I wouldn't blame the dudes for not reporting that.
How is the phone thing even a discussion? When someone steals the phone of someone, even if the person deserved it. Obviously you report that, bc if someone steals from others how safe are you that they don't steal from you?
While I was stationed overseas, MTG and Yugioh were pretty commonplace. Enough people played that we had a collection of judges for each game as personnel cycled in and out of the base.
21:51 That happened once to me with Evil Twin. The guy I was playing against thought that Trouble Sunny's send effect was quick (never asked me, he just thought it was) with the banishing as a cost. He had Lancea and held it. I activated Trouble Sunny and sent one of his cards to the GY. A little while later in the same turn he asked me if Sunny was ignition or quick. I told him it was ignition and that's when he replied telling me he thought it was a quick effect. Then he forced me to take it back so that he could Lancea in open game state. He was the local's judge so not much there I couod do.
Phone story is difficult cuz yeah don't steal and all, but ygo cards can be replaced. A phone could have things like pictures or text messages that can never be replaced.
tbf its 2025, most of that stuff is backed up to a cloud account and/or accessible from multiple devices. Most stuff isn't solely tied to the phone without any sort of backup unless you opt out of that intentionally. However, old YGO cards from out of print sets are actually in finite supply. And on top of that, the phone is likely warrantied against theft and they'll just walk in and get a new one with all that data on it. Ain't no warranties on YGO cards you bought from a dealer its just gone.
Yeah, plus there's things like 2FA (probably not a big thing 10 years ago) lots of personal data, etc. And a phone is a bit more expensive then Yu-Gi-Oh cards anyway
Small thing for the Asaault core thing Asking your opponent "What does it do?" Like, plenty of cards do 2 or even 3 things nowadays but sometimes you'll only ever see 1 effect be relevant. Stating all effects would be basically the same as reading the card *for* your opponent *to* your opponent.
On the other hand im totally on Gage's side. I guess this is one of those cases that shows how nice or idealistic someone can be. To me it comes down to the fact that they knew the guy that lost his phone was a known thieve, so they had context and had the chance to decie if that shitty dude got what he deserved in a non violent way.
@DrakonPhD believe it or not a lot of people don't have hold ethics in a black or white, "its always bad or always good" regard. Context matters to most people and even the US justice system considers context to a fair degree when sentencing
@@bruhthisnamebruh There's a stark difference between thinking it happening to the guy was karma, and then finding out about where it went afterwards and saying nothing.
On the phone one: Doug is 100% correct. If you want to live in a high trust society, you must be willing to contribute to that high trust, even if it means you don't get to partake in schadenfreude to assuage your ego. Realistically, the only thing that would happen would be Little D taking the thief to small claims court and he would have to have the initiative to do so which often doesn't even happen.
open phone that person could do a lot of damage with identity theft that could ruin his finances for years. It's like this one old VHS about pranks where person A does a small prank like a whoppie cushion then person B is like ooh I'll get you back by falsifying your death certificate so that you're unable to collect social security when youre old. That'll show you. Like whoa man 3 copys of vanities aint exactly equal to that kind of retribution.
@DrDrao I'm kinda in the same boat with OP How would I be telling on myself? As long as you don't go out your way to steal from the thief, you are good. The story stated someone found something that was left. If I realized I found something that belong to the thief, that's an opportunity to create an exchange. Probably best to do so semi-privately (maybe only bring someone who was an initial theft victum)
Yeah no if the guy who sold the phone didn't share the money with the other people like the writer who lost cards too, then they're just also being scummy and using karma as an excuse for their bullshit.
18:40 Yeah well because you dont have to. Opp asked for GY effect, not union effect, and you told him. You ask for reading, he denyes it. So by denying the reading, he simultaniously said and agreed that he knows the effect. Definately opps fault and a deserved victory playmat ^^ Edit: I would call a union effect a passiv effect, and those dont have to be told at all without opp asking for them. Everything opp doesnt ask, he confirmes he knows on confirming the summon.
To be fair. Not just one, but two players who had stolen some cards before in my locals were let back in like nothing ever happened. Crazy stuff. People just forget.
To be fair, I know what Traptrix are, and still don’t want want to see them. So I don’t think that a non-YGO player seeing one and getting concerned is weird
So so true. I showed them to my younger brother(also an adult lol) his reaction was the natural "wow that's literally l0l1 corn" lmao right away. Nothing else first instant reaction was exactly that. If that doesn't say something idk what will.
It really sucks bc if not for the artwork I actually think I'd really like to play traptrix, I love a control playstyle and the traps/monsters seem pretty solid, but the fuckin artwork is disgusting.
Dueling in the military is real. ...And it's not just the weeb non combat admins & cooks. You'd be amazed at how many door kickers & secret squirrel guys are into YGO, MTG & Pokemon. ....And yes, there was a version of "locals" in Iraq & Afghanistan 😃
A pro player was once a roommate with a vender. Vender came home from work to find his binders missing, pro player still claims innocence to this day. Never meet your hero’s.
Dzeef I feel you with the smartphone one. I don't think I'd snitch, but I may cuz there's a HUGE difference between a phone and 3 vanities. Even at the price back then simply because a phone has personal information on it
For the last story, the 12 year old must of forgot about the game loss for being late. Thinking there’s another game he would have started the next game with 17k life with the opponent at 8k.
99% of time when an opp asks what a card does, I’ll give them a summary and then go “but you should def read it” like with Maliss tb-11 I’ll say “it special summons a Maliss monster from deck or extra, but I think you should read it”
I'll be honest, I had to read assault core too. The way they described it sounded like it made it illegal to target your monsters, which would have made targeting therion an illegal action. But it's unaffected, so it's a legal play, just a bad one.
In context to Gage mentioning seeing an opponents endboard and asking "what am I looking at?", I think this is relatively okay in a casual setting. I do agree that it's on you to read the cards to fully get an understanding, but the problem comes from decks that end their combo with like 30 cards in their GY. Some of those cards might have quick effects in GY, and the ones that don't might have relavent on field effects since the monsters currently on board can quick effect summon from GY or something. What is expected in this situation? If you're in that position, do you tell your opponent to read every card in the GY? I'm always puzzled with what to do when that happens, giving or recieving.
I kinda think it would be based if players did just say the effects of their cards after playing them. Alot like the anime. Now yes cards are books half the time but that would make it funny. "I activate Endymion...................................................................."
@daltronius that's so true. But just imagine the potential meme worthy moments of people either taking it super serious or not serious at all. 😅 that would be so funny.
9:27 while two wrongs don't make a right, you are not obligated to correct someone else's wrong. nothing changed because they knew and there does not seem like there was strong moral reason to go out of their way to help someone who had wronged them.
Speaking of looking up to players who were better than us but who weren't actually good, I had a friend who taught me a bit on how to play Yugioh. I bought the DMag, Cydra, Odd-Eyes structure deck for me and my two brothers, and our friend played Geargias He told me that Geargiagear Gigant XG's "your opponent cannot activate cards or effects" meant I could not activate cards *for the rest of the game* after it was activated Boy was it hard to beat that Also, I'm Team Gage for that phone story
Love how chat has its own bigass section onscreen. Like they're the fourth member of the discussion or something
good chat messages kinda rare tho
And it's farfa's chat of all of em 😭😭😭
Chat votes on every drama so they are the fourth member
It won't be a long time before Farfa becomes the DougDoug of YuGiOh
I kinda question the competence of the 4th party tho. Like, what is it worth having them there? ^^
Doug: _is a law abiding citizen_
Farfa: get a load of this guy
I think they should've returned the phone but kicked his ass when it showed up for it
Running red lights is straight up putting the lives of people in danger. That's absolutely ridiculous that they found that funny. Jesus Christ man..
Especially since there’s a guy who is now willingly stealing phones when he feels slighted and maybe other times
@@MisterDramasticI feel like it was only just for this one asshole In particular because he made a big stink about it, but I could be wrong oh well
@@cd767 Assault is also a crime tho
Doug confirmed Lawful Good, Farfa True Neutral and Gage Chaotic Evil
Gage is True Chaos... :-P
He will banish a light and a dark
Lmao my exact thought, farfa giving more perspective to both
Gage is redox destrudo.
Gage and farfa confirmed absolute assholes in reality
Doug with not reporting a theft: its scummy
Doug when someone scams a ygo win: the worst subhuman ever
"He's TWELVE"
@@EpicNinjaShiro well that's on him not being older
@@mokies7811 I always get a laugh at the difference between the stereotypical average semi competitive YGO player's age and the fact that the TCG minimum age on the box is 6+ while JP's is 9+ if memory serves.
Gage absolutely ripping that 12 year old to shreds is sending me
Unironically, it reminds me why I avoided ever going to a local YGO tourney weekly. 80% of the ones playing there were in the "you don't know, then you're at fault and I'm not misrepresenting anything" camp. The sort of kitchen format/casual play groups were basically fine, but the competitive types had the "its not cheating if I'm not caught" self righteous mentality.
@@EpicNinjaShiro If you have a lgs without a judge thats not a great place to play to begin with ^^
@@FirekingBarong Not sure why you assume there wasn't. The judge had a similar mentality.
@@EpicNinjaShiro Guy describes an environment where cheating is ok aslong you arent caught. So with that i assume there wasnt a person who is only there to keep a watch on the rules, because how else are you gonna get to such a social state? You cant create such a lgs with a judge around who takes himself series..
In his defense my 12 year old past self would think this is a trick like, LP don't transfer over to the next game like when Yugi dueled Noah.
I do the same as minmin at locals, asking "what does this board do? what has a quick effect?" if they spend a really long time making a board. When I'm asked what a card does, I'll say the effect that is most contextually important, but then say "and it has other effects". Like if I discard Bystial Lubellion for ability, and my opponent asks what it does, I'd say "it searches a Bystial monster to hand, but it has other effects in the grave or in play".
Yeah same, it depends on how competitive the environment is, but if its just locals or something, where the goal is mostly to have fun or learn, I totally accept summarising
I ask clarifying questions so it really is on the opponent. If they said core effect in the grave I would say cool does it do anything else or something like that. Then if they don't give a proper answer they are misrepresenting the game state. If an effect sounds super broken I'll read it to see if there is an out they aren't saying or if they are wrong about the card.
The third story reminds me of my first regional in late 2013. My opponent set up some Noble Knight XYZ with 5 equips, I start my turn trying to use Book of Moon on it and he was like "It can't be targeted". So I asked, "what effect is making it immune to targeting?", to which he says "read my cards" and straight up refused to tell me what the relevant card was. So I read all his cards on field and grave, but I only figured out what card it was on the second pass of reading them (I misread it the first time, classic hidden effect). I was real fucking nettled, but justice was served cause I won with Tiaramisu effect :) (he also called over and argued with the judge cause he didn't understand how Tiaramisu didn't target cards on field)
For the phone theft story if it was me I would have told the guy "Hey we found out who stole your phone" And then when he asks who it was I'd say "I'll tell only you when you give me back the cards you borrowed last year. No cards, no phone."
Yep that should be the deal from the start
Nah that's even more immature and honestly kinda stupid.
@@jojofan2551 cry about it.
I'd argue that doing that would be more trouble than it's worth. Of course, this is reading more into the situation and speculation, but I'd guess that the card thief would likely just use those words to accuse you of stealing the phone since you clearly know, and it creates a major headache where you're likely just gonna have to reveal who did it anyways or risk your reputation being tanked. Yeah, the guys a card thief, and there's a chance that they'll blow him off and say he's not reputable enough to take seriously, but it's still not worth the trouble, especially if he later insinuates you cooperated with the phone thief in case something goes weird.
About the Assault Core Atrocity, what I think the most important part of being a good player is not your technical play but being aware of what every on the field and graveyard does. If you just understand what's going on, you are 10x less likely to miss triggers and know what you need to play around.
“Read the card”
“Why BA no die”
Doug with the most controversial opinion in this video:
"Stealing is wrong"
second one can be reduced to: "you're a grown man, read the card"
Stealing and selling a phone is much worse than stealing some cards. Cards are expendable buy new ones, a phone has memories, contacts, and you don't need to continue paying for yugioh cards after they're stolen. You likely do with a phone and will have to buy a new one on top of it. Both theifs but a phone is much worse.
Ofc stealing someone's phone is worse, but I have no issue with bad things happening to bad people either
and a new phone often costs €1000 nowadays, which is way more than those cards were worth
blablabla
4:22 The Base Exchange (BX) will usually carry them. The base is like a self contained town with its own grocery store, post office, etc etc etc. When I lived in Japan the BX was the prodominate way I got new TCG sets. Farfa is also correct that you also have a PO Box. That PO Box is also considered to be a domestic US Address, for instance. So for the purposes of a TCGPlayer seller it didnt cost them more to send to me, on base, in Japan than someone domestically in the US. It was a single stamp. They would have never known I was in Japan unless they googled the address they were given. Also Farfa asking about the US Military locals. It is, kind of, a thing. We had organized one while in Japan. None of us wanted to play OCG mainly due to the language barrier. So a bunch of Military guys & civilians organized on base & played TCG every sunday. Since i've left, I organized it originally, they still play. We, of course, don't get OTS packs. We do try to gather up prize support. Someone would occasionally put up a box & we'd put up entry to basically help them break even. Occasionally bases will host events for TCGs and such as well to get people interested in these hobbies & one of our guys would help organize the yugioh side of it. So, someone would put up the prizing for that & entry would be required for that as well to ensure the person putting up prizing was again, squared away.
In no universe did the Gift Card story happen. Maybe if the kid was like 6 or 7, but a 12 year old? Nah.
How did he even get 3 copies of it in his opening hand? And why would you accept the offer of 9000 LP for a win when you're already getting the 9000 LP by default?
@@codyhanson1344 believe it or not but you can actually draw 3 of the same card in your opening hand
Gage reminds me of the various stories of people that got caught cheating at tourneys in various games and came back like nothing was wrong. Dzeef's basically right, if you just let multiple wrongs stack up, it leaves the door open later for people to go full endless cycle, cause you'll end up with the attitude of "I can break it if someone else already broke the rules".
the little "screenshot visualisers" for each of the stories are a great addition to this series here on the youtubes. Great stuff!
On the Assault Core thing:
I used to play with a friend (we've fallen out over personal stuff since) who's legally blind. He can still see a little but his field of vision is teeny tiny (like 1.5% of what the average person can see).
He always asks for the effects of cards (even the ones he's familiar with) and I usually just read out the whole effect text whenever he asked me.
He got so pissed off at me for taking 3 minutes to answer a question like "What does Fire King Avatar Barong do again?" that he started to insist I only read the relevant parts and if he messes something up that it's on him.
We do use Discord a lot, mainly for getting non classified or need to know info out to a platoon
I'm shocked they didn't mention the most obvious thing about the art of the deal segment. If you say no, they still have to give you the life points by game mechanic they've activated a trap card they can't just say that will not do the thing they just did if you don't give up the game. It would be like activating upstart goblin and saying' if you don't let me draw four I'm not giving you the life points"
That's why I don't think that story is real. No shot the guy ogre'd through his side deck, sided in 3 gift cards, actually drew all 3 of them, and did it all with the longshot hope that this kid was dumb enough to fall for the trade offer.
With the first story he comments that other members play magic, no way they thought a yugioh card was just hentai unless he posted non official art which I think is what happen 100%
On the Assault Core story, its entirely on the opponent, they were given the chance to read it, THEY chose not to.
Giftcard guy definitely cheated to get 3 sideboard cards into hand.
I was thinking that as well.
Yeah i wondered why none of them said something about this fact😅
re: "The Smartfon Snatcher", I'd have reported the phone thief to police, or at the very least to the player community (stealing is bad, if this guy stole Little D's phone and sold it I wouldn't trust him not to steal my stuff, or other people's stuff).
With that said, they should've reported Little D to the community to begin with, for the same reason.
re: "The Art of the Deal", that's the scummiest shit ever. Straight-up bullying a kid. Should've been banned.
I don't like to rule shark but if I give you the out for the thing I'm expecting you to miss, I'm not gonna let you take it back afterwards. The only time I can think of that I've actually done this was in a Magic Modern event, opponent had a non-sick Dragon's Rage Channeler and I was presenting lethal on board, he activates a sorcery that would potentially turn on DRC's Delirium so I ask him "pre-combat or post-combat?" he responds "pre-combat" then the spell ends up turning on his delirium. He attempts to pass turn and I remind him his DRC must attack if able, to which he huffs, accuses me of rule-sharking because I "obviously knew he would do his turn so he could block with the DRC", and then storms out of the store. Apparently he complained a lot about it to anyone who would listen but I offered him the out and he said pre-combat. As for the guy in this video? He offered to let his opponent read the card and his opponent refused, I think its reasonable to explain to your opponent the effect that is relevant at the moment when they ask what it does.
If the orcust guy didnt ask to read again when you equipped A, then hes just a dummy
regulus equips any machine, so he had no reason to assume A had another effect while equipped unless he read the card beforehand
I mean yes it's the guys fault for not reading the card but at the same time if someone asks you should be reasonable and give the full effect, not just say ready the card.
Maybe people can't read or might have a reading disability so can't actually read the card.
@@lordvika2526 im just saying its kind of dumb to assume theres no other effect when the A gets equipped, clearly indicating there's another effect
@Spoon8lld right but a lie of ommision like farfa said is still a lie. That person should have said the full effect not just the effect activated at the time
@lordvika2526 i disagree, since I think it's reasonable to expect to be given the relevant effect and verify yourself, but also I really don't care about this situation at all
The assault core atrocity happened to me a few years ago at nats against dragon link. I was playing nouvelles and every single nouvelles card in my deck was French (because the deck is based on French cuisine) I had a small book with me called (the cook book) which had all of the English versions of the cards in it. I talked to a head judge before the event and they specifically told me that I have to open the book to the specific card in question every time and cannot just hand my opponent the book to translate as they see fit. Anyways, game 3 comes around and we are getting my close to time. I summon the level 3 nouvelles on the field during my opponents turn. I use the effect to draw one.(note that this is game 3 and I had summoned this monster and used both its effects multiple times across both games up to this point) i say that in activating effect to draw one. He asks if it doesn’t anything else, I say “nothing right now, do you want to see the translation again?” He says no and continues to combo. He then has a line to scarlight but it requires him to summon striker dragon eff pop itself summon tracer. When he activates striker dragon eff target itself, I chain the level 3 eff to tribute the striker dragon and itself to the level 5. At this point he says I cheated because I didn’t tell him that the card did that. We call a judge and because he has already read this specific card multiple times across the 3 duels already, they side with me. Forgot to mention that while i was doing my combo turn 1 game 3 he was slow playing hard so that it would be his mp1 when time was called
I hope Ill never duel you
I think the last story is about wording as well. As awful as it is, I think he wanted to mind-trick the kid cuz if the kid says "okay?" as a question like (okay wtf is this offer) then the guy will make it feel like a consent on the offer from the kid, and if the kid further argues this he might intimidate him (he's just a kid so any strong words will frighten him). F**k that scum I hope he gets banned.
The trick also works if you say "okay" as only accepting the 9k LP (not the entire offer) and want to continue the game.. idk he just reminded me of salesmen who always twist their words, maybe I'm wrong
i remember my brother at locals had no response to a guys turn then asked the guy what negates he had and the guy was like no i dont have to tell you that at a locals and then he had too read all the cards and then the guy was complaining that he was slow playing. farfa talking about asking what board they have just reminded me of this
this is like Will of the Councels younger brother
Gage temporarily 404'ing and Farfa wheezing in the background as Dzeef tries to explain the situation to Gage like a father teaching his son how to shave for the first time, is hilarious.
Yeah, two wrongs dont make a right. And frankly, why would you ever trust someone who you *know* stole a phone from someone? What makes you think they wont ever steal from *you*?
Still, its funny how Gage is like "I believe people can get better, but stealing Yu-Gi-Oh cards? Life in prison."
Like they said, the context matters. It isn't just someone randomly stealing, it's the dude who's been stealing yours and all your friends cards. Some people really don't learn, seeing as they're older than the group mentioned and actually so childishly. Why would my friend steal from me? I didn't steal from them?
Also, the term stolen is giving a lot of weight here. It was left somewhere and picked up, and just not returned. It wasn't pulled from a backpack or something, it was just picked up. (They made an update post saying such)
I am sure you have friends that do petty things, and you wouldn't hold it against them. This situation is simply that, petty.
@@kman909909Stop making excuses for theft, seriously. It's super scummy.
I don't trust Farfa and Gage morals of they run red lights to be honest. They're literally putting the lives of people in danger.
@@DrakonPhD What's your opinion on Robin Hood?
@@DrakonPhD To be fair, it's not like THEY stole it. And the dude who did it wasn't even part of their friend group. Stealing is wrong from both sides, but I wouldn't blame the dudes for not reporting that.
How is the phone thing even a discussion?
When someone steals the phone of someone, even if the person deserved it. Obviously you report that, bc if someone steals from others how safe are you that they don't steal from you?
While I was stationed overseas, MTG and Yugioh were pretty commonplace. Enough people played that we had a collection of judges for each game as personnel cycled in and out of the base.
21:51 That happened once to me with Evil Twin. The guy I was playing against thought that Trouble Sunny's send effect was quick (never asked me, he just thought it was) with the banishing as a cost. He had Lancea and held it. I activated Trouble Sunny and sent one of his cards to the GY.
A little while later in the same turn he asked me if Sunny was ignition or quick. I told him it was ignition and that's when he replied telling me he thought it was a quick effect. Then he forced me to take it back so that he could Lancea in open game state. He was the local's judge so not much there I couod do.
Gage over here being like, "Listen, in some cultures if you steal, you get your hand chopped off."
Narcing isn't reporting someone committing a crime it's when you get caught doing a crime you sell out your friend who was also breaking the law
People really don't understand this because the internet made the phrase snitches get stitches get popular.
Phone story is difficult cuz yeah don't steal and all, but ygo cards can be replaced. A phone could have things like pictures or text messages that can never be replaced.
tbf its 2025, most of that stuff is backed up to a cloud account and/or accessible from multiple devices. Most stuff isn't solely tied to the phone without any sort of backup unless you opt out of that intentionally. However, old YGO cards from out of print sets are actually in finite supply. And on top of that, the phone is likely warrantied against theft and they'll just walk in and get a new one with all that data on it. Ain't no warranties on YGO cards you bought from a dealer its just gone.
@@Nocturne989 tbf, the story took place 10 years ago
Yeah, plus there's things like 2FA (probably not a big thing 10 years ago) lots of personal data, etc. And a phone is a bit more expensive then Yu-Gi-Oh cards anyway
its odd that gage has the confidance of a much taller man with a full scalp
Small thing for the Asaault core thing
Asking your opponent "What does it do?" Like, plenty of cards do 2 or even 3 things nowadays but sometimes you'll only ever see 1 effect be relevant.
Stating all effects would be basically the same as reading the card *for* your opponent *to* your opponent.
"Stealing is wrong."
-Doug Zeeff (2025)
"Are you kind of guy to not run a red light?" - Farfa ~ a goofy goober ass motherfucker who valued Yu-Gi-Oh cards over an innocent person's life
Dang I was so surprised on how they felt about the stealing thing.
I personally 100% agree with Doug on this one.
On the other hand im totally on Gage's side. I guess this is one of those cases that shows how nice or idealistic someone can be. To me it comes down to the fact that they knew the guy that lost his phone was a known thieve, so they had context and had the chance to decie if that shitty dude got what he deserved in a non violent way.
Because modern society lives on the phrase "there are no bad tactics, only bad targets." It's sickening honestly.
I feel like we need to talk more about the running the red light thing and how nobody cares about the safety of other people's lives???? Wtf???
@DrakonPhD believe it or not a lot of people don't have hold ethics in a black or white, "its always bad or always good" regard. Context matters to most people and even the US justice system considers context to a fair degree when sentencing
@@bruhthisnamebruh There's a stark difference between thinking it happening to the guy was karma, and then finding out about where it went afterwards and saying nothing.
I would say the biggest issue is this is so short
The Moe in Moeblob rhymes with "Mo Ye"
goddamn i love doug he's such a genuine dude
Farfa's example of S:P could have also been Suship xyz negate only working in *certain* phases.
On the phone one: Doug is 100% correct. If you want to live in a high trust society, you must be willing to contribute to that high trust, even if it means you don't get to partake in schadenfreude to assuage your ego. Realistically, the only thing that would happen would be Little D taking the thief to small claims court and he would have to have the initiative to do so which often doesn't even happen.
open phone that person could do a lot of damage with identity theft that could ruin his finances for years. It's like this one old VHS about pranks where person A does a small prank like a whoppie cushion then person B is like ooh I'll get you back by falsifying your death certificate so that you're unable to collect social security when youre old. That'll show you. Like whoa man 3 copys of vanities aint exactly equal to that kind of retribution.
I would have used the phone as a leverage/bargaining chip - give back the cards and I give back the phone.
Literally telling on yourself and putting yourself on the hook for blackmail as well. Great going, bro.
@DrDrao I'm kinda in the same boat with OP
How would I be telling on myself? As long as you don't go out your way to steal from the thief, you are good. The story stated someone found something that was left. If I realized I found something that belong to the thief, that's an opportunity to create an exchange. Probably best to do so semi-privately (maybe only bring someone who was an initial theft victum)
Yeah no if the guy who sold the phone didn't share the money with the other people like the writer who lost cards too, then they're just also being scummy and using karma as an excuse for their bullshit.
18:40 Yeah well because you dont have to. Opp asked for GY effect, not union effect, and you told him. You ask for reading, he denyes it. So by denying the reading, he simultaniously said and agreed that he knows the effect. Definately opps fault and a deserved victory playmat ^^ Edit: I would call a union effect a passiv effect, and those dont have to be told at all without opp asking for them. Everything opp doesnt ask, he confirmes he knows on confirming the summon.
To be fair. Not just one, but two players who had stolen some cards before in my locals were let back in like nothing ever happened. Crazy stuff. People just forget.
Should call the show Karma Cut
It's great to see back and forth conversations
First guy screwed up joining the military lmao
This series is too good. I'm glad farfa is bringing back the story time videos from forever ago, and you can never go wrong with this trio
Us bases have fast food joints 😂 dennys, jonny rockets, gamestops.
Keep in mind, the person in the last game was 12 years old. Man was pulling scams so stupid only a literally child could fall for it.
Yugioh player realizes people think looking at scantily clad children in seductive poses is NOT NORMAL
"Wisdom check... I roll a 2"
"... 1"
I would look at that guy and go “that’s crazy” and walk away
My friend is on an airbase in Sacramento and they have a card shop, they’re usually have better priced for sealed products so we buy from him often
To be fair, I know what Traptrix are, and still don’t want want to see them. So I don’t think that a non-YGO player seeing one and getting concerned is weird
So so true. I showed them to my younger brother(also an adult lol) his reaction was the natural "wow that's literally l0l1 corn" lmao right away. Nothing else first instant reaction was exactly that. If that doesn't say something idk what will.
It really sucks bc if not for the artwork I actually think I'd really like to play traptrix, I love a control playstyle and the traps/monsters seem pretty solid, but the fuckin artwork is disgusting.
@@salvadorcardenas9317Yeah. I love trap decks like paleo, geist, lab, and sera's effect is literally custom, but no way am I ever playing traptrix.
I would tell Little D, "I know who stole your phone, give the cards back and I tell you"
The base has stores they function as cities almost all of them have a game shop or some store with cards.
Dueling in the military is real. ...And it's not just the weeb non combat admins & cooks. You'd be amazed at how many door kickers & secret squirrel guys are into YGO, MTG & Pokemon.
....And yes, there was a version of "locals" in Iraq & Afghanistan 😃
A pro player was once a roommate with a vender. Vender came home from work to find his binders missing, pro player still claims innocence to this day. Never meet your hero’s.
"What does 'goes like an Ogre through his side deck' mean?"
*Kashtira Ogre!*
Loved Gage's reaction to the 3rd story.
"Are you stupid?" & "Bro hit his opponent with the Stupid Check and passed".
Gage was like the angry chihuahua this video damn
"People are beyond redemption"
Gage is an anime villain
Yeah and apparently he runs red lights and is totally ok with "accidental" murders
Libraries are the best. My OG locals was a library actually tailored to teens so everyone had the same amount of experience.
It is a given that a union monster protects the equipped monster in some way. Unless you've never read a union monster period.
04:42 yes military locals are a thing. So much so that a bar called the dive used to have impromptu tournaments and the carrier i served on had them.
Damn what happened to my boy Nyhmnim’s hairline 😭
14:40 moral of the story: never steal from gage or he'll shank you behind the parking lot as karmic retribution. Got it
Gage definitely is lying. He's a bony little guy who would suplexed easily. No way he's ever been in a real fight.
Second story feels like if you don't report the phone stealing, that guy is just gonna steal again
At least they know who the culprit is right away 😂
Dzeef I feel you with the smartphone one. I don't think I'd snitch, but I may cuz there's a HUGE difference between a phone and 3 vanities. Even at the price back then simply because a phone has personal information on it
1:48 exactly my thoughts - we have a dragonmaid weed protecting us, we are doomed.
gage: naturia guy doesnt know shit
naturia guy: love you too man
For the last story, the 12 year old must of forgot about the game loss for being late. Thinking there’s another game he would have started the next game with 17k life with the opponent at 8k.
99% of time when an opp asks what a card does, I’ll give them a summary and then go “but you should def read it” like with Maliss tb-11 I’ll say “it special summons a Maliss monster from deck or extra, but I think you should read it”
You’re a grown ass adult you know how to read. Just read the card
Public service announcement; Don't Tell Doug you beat up the guy who robbed him to get his stuff back, he'll have to report you for assault.
Even master duel only highlights the current effect being activated.
Dzeff the type of guy to not let uncle ben die
I'll be honest, I had to read assault core too. The way they described it sounded like it made it illegal to target your monsters, which would have made targeting therion an illegal action. But it's unaffected, so it's a legal play, just a bad one.
Min is assuming the original thief is able to associate one situation with another.
the amount of people that is fine with "he stole €150 worth of cards, so its fine to steal a €1000 phone" is concerning
I'm more concerned about how Farfa and Gage are ok with running red lights and putting the lives of innocent people in danger.
In context to Gage mentioning seeing an opponents endboard and asking "what am I looking at?", I think this is relatively okay in a casual setting. I do agree that it's on you to read the cards to fully get an understanding, but the problem comes from decks that end their combo with like 30 cards in their GY. Some of those cards might have quick effects in GY, and the ones that don't might have relavent on field effects since the monsters currently on board can quick effect summon from GY or something. What is expected in this situation? If you're in that position, do you tell your opponent to read every card in the GY? I'm always puzzled with what to do when that happens, giving or recieving.
I kinda think it would be based if players did just say the effects of their cards after playing them. Alot like the anime. Now yes cards are books half the time but that would make it funny.
"I activate Endymion...................................................................."
I would love to, but then ur average meta deck would take 20 min extra for their turn
@daltronius that's so true. But just imagine the potential meme worthy moments of people either taking it super serious or not serious at all. 😅 that would be so funny.
I let Zephry hear the 12 year old story and she cringed and asked “if all children from back then were that stupid”
Dont catch a body round Doug : Noted
Gage was buggin with the phone, this isnt stealing from Walmart or some other big company, this is personal theft.
They could've reported the guy ON TOP of selling the phone. Now THAT would've been very nasty.
This was great. Loved Dman and Gagagagage Cowboy as your co-hosts. MUCH better than the ones you had on for Meme awards.
9:27 while two wrongs don't make a right, you are not obligated to correct someone else's wrong. nothing changed because they knew and there does not seem like there was strong moral reason to go out of their way to help someone who had wronged them.
I got into yugioh when I was in the military in 2020
Speaking of looking up to players who were better than us but who weren't actually good,
I had a friend who taught me a bit on how to play Yugioh. I bought the DMag, Cydra, Odd-Eyes structure deck for me and my two brothers, and our friend played Geargias
He told me that Geargiagear Gigant XG's "your opponent cannot activate cards or effects" meant I could not activate cards *for the rest of the game* after it was activated
Boy was it hard to beat that
Also, I'm Team Gage for that phone story
4:30 Gage never heard of a base exchange lol? They usually have all sorts of stuff and the Naval Exchange near me has Yugioh cards
Doug the kinda guy who'd rat out the Jews hiding in his neighbors' basement