I will do my very best and also get help where needed. Also I forgot to put it in the video but the horse has fully been checked by the VET multiple times.
He's a beautiful boy and I'm looking forward to seeing how you can help him figure himself out. He definitely deserves a chance and big ups to his owner for not giving up on him.
IMHO he doesn't have enough living, exercise space. If all he has for turn out is that pen at the end of the video, and a stall, and being under saddle ....no wonder he is explosive!! He's not a machine or a robot...horses are perpetual movement animals!! He need turning out into a huge space daily so he can clear his head thru exercise. That girl is not a good fit for that power house. Champ needs another owner...an athletic person able to do tons of groundwork and be a kind but firm leader or she'll end up badly hurt. Jesse will succeed but his owner won't unless she makes some changes. She needs a 16 hand hack, not a huge show jumping/dressage prospect.
Love how calm you are when working with him, so many people get angry or frustrated which makes the horse act worse. You really have a fantastic bond with horses, I'm impressed again every.single.time!
Yes!!! Well said. I used to get made fun of when I did not scold my horse or get mad when he expressed frustration instead similar to Jesse approach, allowed him to "be a horse" and proceed with helping him. Jesse said something soooo important, "it is ok to let him show that he doesn't like something and help him through it". Soooo rare these days with horse owners. LOVED this video. Jesse is stunning, a true natural, a true original, heart of gold.
he seems like a super confused big old baby who has no idea what is happening and holding tantrums lol. You worked so well with him, can't wait to see more!
For sure, its one of the greatest lessons animals teach us, the problem is not the animal it is us. My animals especially my dog and horse taught me this... in the right hands so much is possible
Love seeing/hearing Jessé in training mode. He does a great job explaining what he is doing & expecting. Looking forward to the continuation of this journey whereever it may lead.
Certainly is a handsome horse in the prime of his life! I'm sure his human is very grateful for your willingness to give it a go. Jesse, you are a gift to the horse world when it comes to human, horse communication. Looking forward to the process. Thank you Jesse for taking us along, see you soon.
This looks like a typical case of a neurological disease. He's spontaneously kicking and protecting his hind - from what, unless pain? There is most likely something going on within his central nervous system that bothers him, especially since this is a behavior that came "out of nowhere" as the owners described. The thing with vet checks is that when a behavior is still present - even when vets said "it's not pain" - there is pain. This is a pain response behavior on the lower back, could be disc problems, equine shivers or another neurologic or neuromuscular disease. I wouldn't give up the search just because he was already checked many times - vets miss these types of diseases all the time. Horse behavior never lies. You're doing a great job though Jesse, trying to listen to him and being very diplomatic and straight forward. Hoping he'll do progress eventually
I agree fully. There are also quite telling indications in how twitchy he is in the skin and the way he tosses his head back as if bitten by a bug or something. He's exploding about as if feeling a need to shake of some vague irritant. Unless the horse is severely mismanaged (in a small paddock with no friends and lots of hard feed) high energy shouldn't be the cause of this behaviour. Also looking at how open and willing the horse is to do the physically easy exercise of turning the hind inside the difference between that and how he is while moving is striking. Specifically it seems movement or the anticipation of movement is bothering this horse. It would be very unsusal if it wasn't in some way pain related.
@@Lyrazel i got that impression too, something is irritating him constantly and he’s trying to get away from the discomfort or pain inside his body. I also noticed he’s keeping the tail very tucked in, showing excessive tension somewhere along the spine. I did however also see at the very end he was let out in a very small sanded square with no friends. So that would only contribute to the bad situation imo. The “itchy” behavior might be from being consistently too hot with the double blankets, but on that I can’t really speak on since I don’t know the temperatures etc. But I can say it’s very common, especially in sport horses, that horse owners over-blankets their horses. When you put your hand under the blanket, around the withers, it shouldn’t feel warm, it should be a neutral body temperature. Rolling is a sign of being too hot, which he instantly did when let out in his sand paddock.
My vet had told me that my mare had weak stifles and she suggested pelvic tilt and raising her back daily to help her. Look for my long post to see what else I am doing for her.
The fact that he was so reactive on the ground shows how he was not anywhere near ready to work under saddle. Until all of those things are ironed out, riding is only going to make things worse. He also seems a bit frightened of Jesse approaching his right-side hindquarters.
He seems rather anxious, its so nice to see him being taught in a gentle way instead of just adding equipment and harsh training to try and make him submit. Kudo's to the owner for getting you to come and try to help him, I am sure you can do amazing things with him.
This horse looks very spirited, talented and curious. The stables has no windows and I guess if having not enough of stimuli and a loads of energy in a very able body could cause that kind of bizarre reactions to environment. Almost looks like the horse doesn't like how wind feels on his mane and tale and is trying to kick of that tale multiple times! No aggressiveness toward his humans and Jesse is doing a great job in trying to help him to get use to it's sensitive, athletic body and trouble environment. Thank you for the owner for trying!
Sometimes explosive horses just need a big space to run in. If all he has is a stall, a small paddock area and a riding ring, I don't blame him for being frustrated. He's a big horse and a young horse who probably just wants to be able to run at top speed out in a huge pasture. He has a lot of pent-up energy and no way to release it. I know Jesse will will definitely be able to help. He just has a natural way of communicating with animals to put them at ease. I'm really looking forward to more videos of this interesting journey. Lots of horses and their owners could probably use Jesse's help. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I bet Champ get's to run around a field all summer with friends but there just aren't enough grassy meadows in the netherlands to have horses on them. Big stables here have small paddocks in the winter so the horses aren't cooped up in a stable all day. If you would keep them outside the whole year they will never have fresh grass and it will all turn into sand.
@@friezenfan If there's no room to fulfill a basic need for your horse, you shouldnt have a horse. The Randstad doesnt have enough fields or big paddocks to give all the horses that people want enough turnout. Yet people buy themselves a horse and board them at stables that have nice things, but just a 30 minute turnout in a paddock. It's cruel. But because people are selfish and because people care more about their own needs than the needs of the animals, these stables have enough customers and the horses suffer.
Agreed! I remember an ad in a local horse magazine that offered to teach your horse to go bitless and bridless but one important requirement was that your horse spends at least 6 hours a day outside in a paddock. I think that's the biggest source of all our problems with horses.
I have a 5 yr old Throughbred bred that acts similar to this guy. She is in a very large pasture (20 acres) with 10 other horses. She has plenty of room to stretch her legs and playmates the same age as her. She is out for 8-10 hours each day. Despite all of the time she has to burn out her energy she still displays similar anxiety related behaviors. I often notice she acts more anxious in bigger spaces. Seems very counterintuitive. I cant quite figure her out
It’s so sad to see he doesn’t seem mean, but just confused! Lots of luck with him though and lots of respect towards Anouk for not giving up and him! 🙏
Lovely work with him Jesse. He was far more relaxed and focused by the end. He seems like a horse who is not getting his need for movement/autonomous exercise met, so whenever he gets the chance to move his feet, he is just explosive and tense. He even appeared to attempt to self-mutilate at times (the "itchiness" on his shoulder). His turnout paddock is very small, not enough space for him to do much more than just stand there. That he was once quiet enough for lessons but has changed suddenly in the last year seems to suggest to a management issue.
There just isn't enough grassy meadows in the Netherlands for horses to be in there all year round. Big stables use these small paddocks so that the horse doesn't end up in the stable all that. I bet Champ gets to run around in a lovely field with friends all summer.
@@friezenfan Hopefully that is the case! I see a lot of pasturage behind that arena. But he is very clearly not a happy or relaxed horse in the here and now, so it is always good to start by examining the horse's fundamental management and see where it might not be meeting his needs, since physical/health issues have been ruled out. Many behavioral issues are management issues at their core.
He certainly liked his scratches that Jesse gave him. But I also felt that there was a little too much anxiety in the way Champ chose to scratch at his own shoulders. Just an observation; definitely no cristicism. The windy day wouldn't have helped the horse to relax!
@@Jessie-bo3nt if you put a horse out in that pasture right now before the weather is gonna be nice the grass will be ruined. That is the case in the netherlands. i my guess is that there isn't anything better nearby. it's big issue around the big cities in the netherlands.
@@friezenfan I understand that Champ is probably on a sacrifice lot for the winter to save the pasture. Hopefully he goes out on pasture with friends in the summer. And I get how difficult it is to keep horses near urban areas - I am right by NYC and space is limited here too. But that does not change the reality that Champ could have unmet needs. It could be that Jesse working with him will be enough to help him settle physically and mentally. There is also more than one way to provide a horse with free exercise - pasture turnout is not the only option. But I don’t believe Champ moving from stall to sacrifice paddock at his age and with his good condition is enough exercise or stimulation for him, especially as he is not even being ridden.
Lots of patience and time will help so much. He’s very tense. If it was me I would go back to basic ground work for a while before riding him. He’s so sweet and a beautiful horse. Best of luck with him 😀
Champ reminds me so much of what happened with my own horse when he had a change of environment....he was kept out with other horses where I bought him at age 4 1/2, but my own trainer put him in a stall/paddock and suddenly he had all kinds of dangerous/explosive behavioral issues. I moved him a year later and switched trainers (like Champ's owner, I was not willing to just give up on my horse), and the new trainer convinced me to keep him in a pasture with other horses instead of in a stall/paddock by himself. With the new trainer and new environment, he literally almost changed overnight back into the calm, sweet horse that I had bought. Turns out he REALLY needed to play with other horses to be happy and get out excess energy..he's 22 now and still plays HARD every morning with my other geldings in my home pasture, and he is always calm and ready to ride for me.
He likes you, Jesse. He seems to need to buck and act up but in the most polite way. Had you not mentioned that he’d been checked out thoroughly by a vet, I would have said that he seems very stiff.
I don't like to post much but I got to say this horse is full of anxiety. The tail tucking is a red flag, and a few times when he kicks around he is attempting to kick at his tail. He looks to have very tight fascia over his body and it shows in a few ways. Him trying to nibble at himself regularly at his chest, nostrils tight, and then Jessie pats him you can see the horse "flinch" and bends to his touch a few times. This decreases a bit when the horse warms up as the muscles warm up. This horse needs a lot of fascia release and body work. Tight in hamstrings/Semi-tendinosus, Brachiocephalic, Teres minor areas. The groundwork will just be a bandaid. The horse needs his body worked on first. Like a lot....
I honestly am drawn to horses like him. People consider them "problems" but they're almost always just very intelligent creatures who need extra help to figure things out. And he adored his scratches so much! That was super cute, he kept asking for them too! 😍
Watching the video of him being ridden my first thought was, he has no idea what is wanted of him. A pleasure to see Jesse work with him to gain trust and understanding of what is expected. Thank you Jesse for always being so sensitive to the animals needs
Changes in behavior and skin sensitivity both with rapid onset are signs of Lyme disease. Not saying he has Lyme but just a thought if he hasn't been tested yet. Jesse please stay safe and don't take chances that are too risky. It is very kind of you to try and help. Wish you and the horse the best. I will watch video later on today.
Haven't watched yet, but I've been watching Steve Young work with problem horses. Amazing results. It'll be interesting to see the differences. You might want to watch him a bit. And Warwick Schiller. Both fantastic.
There are any number of American Western trainers who make both of those guys look like novices. Especially the unheralded ones that are involved in the "mustang makeover" programs. Their methods and results are amazing and outstanding.
@@lolosrainydays I love that both Schiller and Young really understand and use horse psychology: herd mentality, herd leader, fight or flight. They make doing the right thing easy. That's basically Schiller's mantra and a fundamental tenet of Steve Young's training. I have learned more than I ever thought I'd know just watching them.
I think: disclaimer I don't know the horse nor the owner but this seems the typical situation where the horse has been asked too much too soon. Then after all that pressure the horse started to say no, and then had to say it louder. It seems as he doesn't have good basics to start with. Some people get too focused on movements and tests and forget that without the basics is just not worth it. Some horses cope well and some others don't. Of course horses have personality and this one seems to have a strong one. Hopefully thanks to Jesse he settles and gets some manners to start with and he will be a much happier horse. With these situations though consistency is key. I just hope the owner is happy to continue to whatever Jesse decides to change.
This is why it’s so important to remember doing groundwork and not only tack up and get on. Change things up so they have to use their minds. This will create better bonds as well
I respect you and I respect your love and care of horses. You might be missing something here. I see in your horse something I began to see in my own 6 yo horse: week stifles. My horse would clamp her tail down when lunging, she would stand with one back leg, back beyond her tail, she could lunge nicely to the left but she would rear or stop going to the right. She was born on a flat farm, no hills at all. I am solving her issues, with the help of a great trainer in my barn, and with daily work, 3 days mounted (we worked up to that) and four days in hand. The in hand work is walking up and down hills for about 20 minutes, lunging both directions, and lunging over poles on the ground both directions. When riding, she has a warm quarter sheet on her bum (this made a huge difference), and we only walk and trot using movements that engage her hind quarters, and over poles on the ground. A key thing that I learned from a race horse trainer was to pull on her tail with both hands at right angles to her spine. I do this 10 times to a count of 10 on each side. I started with 5 times for a couple of days so she didn't object. She will stand still for this because it makes her feel better. Lots of licking and chewing afterward. After only 6 weeks of this, she moves much better and she lunges with a nice arc in her tail. She has a long way to go yet, but I am thrilled with the results so far. Today, I noticed the horizon beyond Champ and I thought about Giao, too. I hope this helps you and many other horses that don't have hills to work on.
Before I started this process to help my horse, she was biting herself, just as Champ is doing. She still does it a bit, but she has gotten better with this symptom, too.
Great comment! I, too, think it's an issue with his stifles, or particularly the left one. I never heard of the tail-pull therapy, but that's very interesting, and great to know it's helped your horse.
i feel like hes one of those horses that got trained to not react to fear and he just snapped because things became to much, hes such a sweet boy that just needs help
Wow. This is just amazing to watch. Most people would've already had 'too much' during the lunging part where Champ was very reactive. But not Jesse! He understood the horse so well and wasn't scared of an animal that was not threatening him but expressing anger. I'm possibly tearing up a bit because it's so beautiful to see a horse getting exactly the respect it deserves while being guided to be a 'trained' horse
He is one lucky horse to have a caring owner who is exploring all avenues of rehabilitation/training for him. I have no doubt we will see some amazing work from Jesse on this project. Goedzo!
Seems like a very sweet horse who just had the misfortune of being taught through force and pressure. Once he figures out that he won't get punished for mistakes or forced to do things he isn't sure of and learns emotional regulation I'm sure he'll be super sweet, reliable, and ambitious to ride as well!
My horse has been fully checked by a vet, too and cam back completely clear. He was being so good one second and then suddenly exploded out of nowhere. Turns out he has PSSM type 2 and after getting him on the right diet the symptoms of exploding on the ground and under the rider have nearly completely stopped! Unfortunately a lot of vets still discard PSSM type 2 tested through the genetic testing offered by Generatio in Germany. But the test results where the key to him getting better and getting back to being able to work with him again. But of course it can be something else entirely. In our case the test results and changing his diet to grain free and special supplements / mineral feed has helped and improved him so much. Maybe that'd be a possibility, too, if he's not tested yet. Lots of warmbloods actually have PSSM type 2.
The thing that's so lovely about Jesse working with horses is that it opens the doors to lots of great conversations & helpful suggestion & ideas. We all get to feel involved in the process!!! And who wouldn't just LOVE to be right there with him? ❤️😄❤️
I love it so much how you start from the ground! Not lunging, not tiring him out. But give him things to think and try out! I think some horses act out, because they are either confused or bored quickly. So fun to watch and good luck on this journey😊😊
I love seeing Jesse in work/training mode. He is so in tune with his horses that this no doubt benefits other more troubled horses. I’ve no doubt that Champ is in safe hands here 😊
Ground work is SO GOOD for all horses, no matter if they're "problem" horses or not. So excited that he's getting that experience with you ♥️ I have gotten a horse that felt trapped when you put any pressure on him. After a month of ground work (and with coaching from someone who knows all about it), he was so much happier and relaxed. Our communication improved so much. Can't wait to see how Champ responds!
I know he's been vet-checked, but I can't help thinking he may have a sticky left stifle. Each time he acts up, it seems to be right after a short step with his left hind, or when his left hind is on the ground and he needs to lift and move it. There's also a very slight hesitancy with that leg, like he's expecting it to happen. With a sticking patella, it can be missed in a vet check because it doesn't happen all the time. Other things that point me toward that is that he circles left just fine, but when you ask him to do a tight circle right, when he'd have to reach under with that hind leg, he can't seem to do it comfortably. He also doesn't seem to be kicking out of high spirits, but out of a reaction to pain or frustration from being asked to do things that cause pain (not your fault if it's true... as I said, it seems that condition is hard to diagnose if it's not really pronounced). Just something to maybe watch as you and his owner continue to work with him, just in case that IS what it is.
Jesse you have to be the best trainer/horse behaviorist in the World. Beautiful nervous horse that needs the confidence you give. He almost acts as if maybe earlier trainers may have punished him for making mistakes. Just a guess on my part since I do not know his history. To me he seems as if he wants to please but blows up when he gets confused. If anyone can fix him you are the person. Best to you, Champ and his owner. May his future be bright. You are indeed a horse whisperer
I agree, this beautiful, yet scared horse maybe recounting all his past failures with humans. He truly NEEDS A LEADER . One that knows his language. Not ours! He needs to know rhe human is listening. All the pressure -with no releasing = explosive equine. SAFETY. COMFORT ,FOOD Top three cares of horses. & who moves the hooves is Leader. My TB mare was mind blown in school, like him , but thankfully smaller. 15.3 She'd been ridden with a short tie down, till she bled for poor saddle fit-30 days straight. Then was given to me. Pressure blew her mind. Bolting, rearing bucking, just from- trainer's having me take contact or exaggerate my leg . Sometimes just a simple lunge shed go crazy & erupt. I had to quit lessons , not lunge around others , and practically buy extra insurance where I boarded. You know what I did- I hit the trails- never ever had another issue. 17 years of bliss . I practiced "Trailssage". Halfpass,shoulder in/out ,flying changes whatever would have been done in arena. She'd load up ,when I pointed to the trailer . She lead rides,crossed creeks, bridges ,rivers . All bitless and "soft saddle" cashell bareback pad. She went to the beaches, Mountains, jumped anything I pointed her towards---- But, that school, in the arena, blew her mind. Though, I came back to the lunge - but free- She'd do walk trot(slow and low or extended, canter, piaffe - ALL WITH HAND SIGNALS no words. Hope Jesse reaches this horse- I Imagine he did,or he wouldn't by airing this- if it failed. For me,I was a bit cringy with Jesse not having any personal a space,nibbling nudging,knocking into him...not very good. Bless He ❤️ rt PR🙏 YING for his continued safety.
Such a beautiful boy. I have complete respect for his owner seeking help and the confident and compassionate way you worked with him. I'm so relieved that I'm not alone in this kind of challenge. When my boy, similar in size and breeding, was 6, he was so much like this. Took lots of groundwork, patience, and consistency to help him mature into a respectful and confident partner. Still, now at 10, there are challenges, but nothing like his former behavior. One thing please do: put overreach boots and exercise boots on him so he doesn't hit himself when he acts up and moves quickly sideways. It only takes one time for him to step on his coronet band or knock himself on a tendon or cannon bone and you'll have an unfortunate injury.
He's got such a baby face, he really just looks confused (and frustrated because of it) more than anything. For him to have such a nice first meeting with you on a VERY windy day really speaks to how much experience you have to maintain composure when the horse isn't able to themselves. Really, that kind of weather can inspire even a mild mannered older horse to be a bit hotsy-totsy! I'm very excited to learn from your experiences with him and as always greatly admire your commitment to approaching any "problem" with patience and compassion.
Wow! By 8 minutess in, there were already significant changes in his behavior, but by 13 minutes, wow!! When you finished the video, to see how calmly he stood behind you was amazing! You have the touch, Jesse. 💯🏆🐴
Champ is a gorgeous sweet horse still very young. His behaviour is unpredictable and it is best to avoid riding him. Even ground work is not easy! He has a lot of energy and is dominant but his behaviour is also suggesting fear, he seems stressed and tense. Maybe he feels pain? He has been checked several times by the vet but some pathologies of the body or mind are not always easy to detect. I don't mean that the vet is incompetent!!! Is your friend his first owner? Anything special happened in Champ's life? Jesse has started work sessions and if the problem can be corrected or solved, he is definitely the man for the job. I sincerely hope so for the horse and his owner. Jesse, being able to look at your well explained work is always very interesting and I will be happy to see you soon. Thank you so much! 💙
I’m amazed at how calm and kind you were with him, even with how big and unpredictable he is. So impressed by both you and his owner for trying to help him and not just writing him off.
Let me just first say that this horse is stunningly gorgeous and kudos to the very caring owner for continuing to help her horse find resolve!!!!! Next, I just don’t believe this is a behavioral issue - I know you said he’s been vetted many times…. But he keeps his tail pretty tucked and moves his butt and back legs pretty stiff at times and kicks out as if he is trying to rid/release a sensation and holds his head very high as if to compensate for what is going on in the back end. You notice when he walks through the barn his head is low and he is for the most part relaxed… but seems to act up when being asked to bend or move out…. it’s almost like something locks up within him that causes him to act out as if trying to release what has locked up….I just don’t think this is a behavioral issue…. my last thought is to have the animal communicator come out that Matt used before and see if she can pick up anything up…. I really think he’s got something physically going on….have you had a chiro out for their thoughts? Again, gorgeous gorgeous boy! Sending good wishes his way as I hate to see a horse struggle for any reason and again kudos to the very caring owner ❤️
Amazing. I can see Champ beginning to take a chance at trusting you ... to maybe recognizing and experience loving kindness from you. You Jesse Drent, so much love inside the being you are. The world is blessed to have you in it.
Yoooo Jesse! Now here's a guy knows a quality dude when he reads about one (you). This is a man who isn't afraid to show or verbalize his respect for your talent & abilities! You deserve no less. ❤️😄❤️
Kudos to owner for keeping on trying. This guy may need a bigger pen and some playmates in his paddock. He was treating Jesse like a playmate, the banter between them during session was interesting to watch. I hope this beautiful horse finds his mental balance. Fun video
The owner certainly has my sympathy and applause for keeping and doing all she can to help solve Champs' issues. 🙌 Great start and hopefully you'll take us along on the journey as far as can be. Prayers up for Champ. 🙏❣
Some people just have a natural feeling for horses. I'm not saying that Jesse didn't work for it, trianed himself and all that, but you can tell that Jesse has that natural feeling and goes with the flow of the horse. He is really intuitive and reads horses very well. He is also really good at explaining and making people that watch him understand why he's doing certain things ans how he's thinking when training horses.
My first thought was ulcer, then chiropractor. Then I read that he has been checked by a vet. And I agree with other comments, that he's showing frustration, because he's a young horse, who only has a tiny pasture, and no buddies to play with. How will he be able to vent? I always feed my horses a little hay while brushing, as it prevents stomach acid sloshing around in an empty tummy, and it calms them down a bit. He would really benefit from gymkhana and other exercises where he needs to think, the collection and dressage won't work, when he has tons of built up energy. He needs to do serpentines between sticks, to focus on where his feet are, going over, around, in and out of obstacles. First by hand, then from the saddle. Get his head to focus on where his body is, and what it's doing, then he can take that knowledge into dressage. I would also do free work with him, he wants to play, so have playtime, have fun together, make him be superfocused on where you are, and to match you. She has to do his stuff, before asking him to do her stuff. So many people are trying to "force" animals (and even people) to fit into their own needs and wants, without considering the others needs or wants.
I know he’s been checked by the vet but I would recommend seeing an ortho or osteo. He really looks like he has issues with his hind end and most vets don’t specialize in diagnosing this type of problem. I’m an osteopath and this does not look like strictly a behavioral problem. Best of luck to all. ❤
You;'re a horse whisperer, Jesse! I'm so he's taken to you so you can help him get calmer, and to teach the owner to help him too. Bravo to her to asking for help when she felt like she needed it- the sign of a good owner!
You can tell that he was an insecure big baby that’s frustrated and not understanding what is being asked of him. Then once he started understanding what you were asking he got it and relaxed. He also started trusting you.
Looks like his front right knee keeps giving out and he seems super stiff. Maybe therapists could help. So happy so see an owner trying to stick it out. Behaviors always come from somewhere so its important to investigate and solve the mystery.
This horse is beautiful but clearly stressed and frustrated. There is likely some holes in his training or possibly some harsh training from the past. He is still young. He is communicating that something is wrong. Is he allowed to frolic and play? Does he get any turn out? Any pasture /social time with horse friends? Your approach is likely just what he needs: Calm, gentle and soft, relaxed and listening to what he is trying to tell you. Bravo, too to his owner for not giving up! I look forward to following the progress!
I bet champ gets to run around in a lovely field with friends all summer. But the Netherlands just doesn't have enough grassy meadows for horses to be turned out all year
Another thing, you have a great mindset around the whip, just using it for extra clearance and guidance to the horse. But remember: you're not the one who decides if the whip is bad or good - the horse does. If the horse ever had bad experiences it doesn't matter how softly you use the whip, as soon as he sees it he will make a connection and know exactly what it's capable of doing to him. Just a food for thought.
Thank you. So nice to see someone using calm voice and cues and great deal of patience. Had he been given free time when coming from stall time BEFORE being asked to stand for grooming or arena work time? Youth requires free time to run, jump and express their feelings before having anything asked of them. You are doing a great job. Thank you for sharing.
I loved seeing this. My horse is not explosive, but he doesn't like to lunge and I've been struggling to teach him because I don't want to fight. People have tried to help me but I don't like there methods. I never thought of trying with schooling whip. A lungevwhip always feels so heavy and my hands are full,, and we end up all 9ver the place. I'm excited to learn more from this video. Oh I'm all the way from south Africa. Hope you and Matt come visit us some time. We have nice horses here too.
I look forward to seeing the video updates of this guy, he has already thrived in just this one session with you, Jesse. You can tell he had a lot of pent up energy and frustration and didn't know what to do with it, you truly are a gift to horses and let them express how they feel about it, without just assuming they're being bad and getting after them for it. He seems like a such a sweetie, even though he is also dominant and wanted to take control
You are a gem to take on this horse and his emotional state. I'm wondering if this horse gets any liberty time in an open space, and does he get playtime with any other horses? He seems mentally very young, with TONS of pent-up energy in both his mind and body. Both he and the owner are lucky to have you on their team now! I look forward to watching how things go with you all 🖤
I bet he gets to run in a lovely field all summer but there just isn't enough grassy meadows in the Netherlands to keep your horse in a field all year round. Big stables like this turn them out in small paddocks in the winter to save the grass for the summer. It's better then standing in a stable all day
Welcome Champ - what a gorgeous horse! Thank you for taking us along and for explaining so well. It will be an interesting journey for sure! And I hope Champ and his owner get to be an amazing team together!
Great to see Champ go from confused and frustrated to confident. Jesse's patient and clear direction makes all the difference. I hope his owner can continue because Champ has graceful movement when he can understand. Kudos to all 3 of you.
Champ needs a calm and confident but firm trainer that doesn't let him get away with pushing people when he's "unsure". Horses have two mechanisms to deal with stress...flight (run away) or fight (kick and stomp or run over you). When he can't get explosive and run away from things that make him uncomfortable...he gets pushy into the person to a point he could be dangerous. Dealing with stress is a learning process for all animals. He needs to just realize that the person is not going to just push him into a situation too fast when he's not happy with, but also realize that the person isn't going to let him get away with refusing to do things that are really not harmful. The more positive experiences he has in overcoming those events that make him uncomfortable but are not really harmful or dangerous, the more trust he starts to gain in the person training him and then the quicker he can work through areas and accept things that make him uncomfortable. I'm sure Jessie can do that...but his current owner also needs to repeat what Jessie does to learn for herself and gain that trust from him too.
Reminds me a lot of a mare I worked with recently. Took a year and a half but we got her good and relaxed and more confident through a combination of turnout in a herd with a lead mare that demanded respectful behavior without being mean about it, using shorter sessions, and started by only asking yes questions. Made a massive difference.
16:45 yo that looked kinda dangerous, i hope no one will get hurt 😶😶 a hoof to the head might not be very pretty, accidental or not. Champ is so lucky to have people trying to help him, i know many would just find it too stressful ❤️ don’t give up Anouk but be careful
Yeah, I don't understand why Jesse is not wearing a helmet around a horse that strikes like that. No matter why a horse does it (and I agree with everyone saying he seems young, confused, overstressed and frustrated, and having trouble using his body) that kind of strike with the foreleg is how horses actually aim to kill other animals. It's super dangerous. There's literally no reason not to just wear a helmet at least.
This is incredible to watch. You're low key demeanor while also explaining to us what was going on was wonderful. I loved the way he watched you waiting for you to react to what he was doing. He did seem a bit confused when you didn't react. Then he would try to do something else waiting again for your reaction, and you just kept constantly talking low and giving him the commands. It can be done, but as you said, it's going to take some sessions. I'm a little bit behind in watching, so I'm looking forward to seeing how Champ progresses. You can tell his bright, because he's picked up your whistling and shushing sounds and knows what to do when you make those noises only after a few moments. Then the reaction with the whip to bringing His hind end in..incredible. Thanks for taking us on this journey.
Jesse I'm glad you are patient, kind, gentle, and caring. He is a beautiful horse and I believe you will be able to help him and his owner. Looking forward to seeing more of this horse and how he progresses.
The Hay Gain was interesting to see. I’m very glad I live where there is no snow. Electrolytes and salt works here. Wonderful job with the horse. Keep up the good work.
It would be amazing if Symone, the animal communicator that was on Matt’s channel, could read this beautiful but struggling horse. I wonder if there’s some kind of skin allergy or something. He seemed uncomfortable and “itchy” at times. Jesse, you and the owner are so kind and clearly vested in helping this horse. He is lucky to be in your gentle and kind hands.
I was thinking that Champ needs a session with Symone as well, particularly because she stressed she doesn’t have to be present to carry out an evaluation. She was amazing to watch as she worked with the horses. I find it interesting that you mentioned the “itchiness” because Champ was showing some kind of tick or nervous energy. Is there something triggering in his diet that the vet wouldn’t necessarily be looking for or pick up on?
I feel consulting an osteopath or someone who specializes in diagnosing issues with the musculoskeletal system would be more beneficial. It’s good that the horse has seen a veterinarian but they rarely specialize in diagnosing these types of issues. I think the horse likely has an issue with his stifles or possibly slightly higher up in the pelvis. He exhibits behaviors that are consistent with that and he seems consistent in his discomfort. Looks like a patellar issue to me.
I really loved the way that you presented us with the actual start of the meet and greet, and then went on to show us from the very beginning of you hands on methods, and how you worked through each and every situation with ease, poise and class, thankyou
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I will do my very best and also get help where needed. Also I forgot to put it in the video but the horse has fully been checked by the VET multiple times.
He's a beautiful boy and I'm looking forward to seeing how you can help him figure himself out. He definitely deserves a chance and big ups to his owner for not giving up on him.
you can do it, he is a big boy with lots of energy, and so good with body awareness. easy learner!🥰
Hes beauty or you very talented you a very good horse owner or rider❤
IMHO he doesn't have enough living, exercise space. If all he has for turn out is that pen at the end of the video, and a stall, and being under saddle ....no wonder he is explosive!! He's not a machine or a robot...horses are perpetual movement animals!! He need turning out into a huge space daily so he can clear his head thru exercise. That girl is not a good fit for that power house. Champ needs another owner...an athletic person able to do tons of groundwork and be a kind but firm leader or she'll end up badly hurt. Jesse will succeed but his owner won't unless she makes some changes. She needs a 16 hand hack, not a huge show jumping/dressage prospect.
@@hollywill2226 agree
Love how calm you are when working with him, so many people get angry or frustrated which makes the horse act worse. You really have a fantastic bond with horses, I'm impressed again every.single.time!
This!
As I have said,many times,Jesse Drent is the "Dutch Horse Whisperer"!! ❤
Yes!!! Well said. I used to get made fun of when I did not scold my horse or get mad when he expressed frustration instead similar to Jesse approach, allowed him to "be a horse" and proceed with helping him. Jesse said something soooo important, "it is ok to let him show that he doesn't like something and help him through it". Soooo rare these days with horse owners. LOVED this video. Jesse is stunning, a true natural, a true original, heart of gold.
Jesse is AMAZING!! 😊
I love this owner because she is just not giving up on her horse. Very good job, can’t wait to see what results you get from the training exercises.
I agree….it seems like he just needs some solid ground work as to me he seems unsure of himself and will feel better once he gains confidence.
he seems like a super confused big old baby who has no idea what is happening and holding tantrums lol. You worked so well with him, can't wait to see more!
Exactly! ♡
I’m sure he would profit from some physiotherapy
For sure, its one of the greatest lessons animals teach us, the problem is not the animal it is us. My animals especially my dog and horse taught me this... in the right hands so much is possible
Love seeing/hearing Jessé in training mode. He does a great job explaining what he is doing & expecting. Looking forward to the continuation of this journey whereever it may lead.
Jesse, animals love you. That's a great sign.
Certainly is a handsome horse in the prime of his life! I'm sure his human is very grateful for your willingness to give it a go. Jesse, you are a gift to the horse world when it comes to human, horse communication. Looking forward to the process. Thank you Jesse for taking us along, see you soon.
I really admire that the owner didn’t give up, and acknowledged that she needed help. That’s a great horse owner right there.
This looks like a typical case of a neurological disease. He's spontaneously kicking and protecting his hind - from what, unless pain? There is most likely something going on within his central nervous system that bothers him, especially since this is a behavior that came "out of nowhere" as the owners described. The thing with vet checks is that when a behavior is still present - even when vets said "it's not pain" - there is pain. This is a pain response behavior on the lower back, could be disc problems, equine shivers or another neurologic or neuromuscular disease. I wouldn't give up the search just because he was already checked many times - vets miss these types of diseases all the time. Horse behavior never lies. You're doing a great job though Jesse, trying to listen to him and being very diplomatic and straight forward. Hoping he'll do progress eventually
I agree fully. There are also quite telling indications in how twitchy he is in the skin and the way he tosses his head back as if bitten by a bug or something. He's exploding about as if feeling a need to shake of some vague irritant. Unless the horse is severely mismanaged (in a small paddock with no friends and lots of hard feed) high energy shouldn't be the cause of this behaviour. Also looking at how open and willing the horse is to do the physically easy exercise of turning the hind inside the difference between that and how he is while moving is striking. Specifically it seems movement or the anticipation of movement is bothering this horse. It would be very unsusal if it wasn't in some way pain related.
@@Lyrazel i got that impression too, something is irritating him constantly and he’s trying to get away from the discomfort or pain inside his body. I also noticed he’s keeping the tail very tucked in, showing excessive tension somewhere along the spine. I did however also see at the very end he was let out in a very small sanded square with no friends. So that would only contribute to the bad situation imo. The “itchy” behavior might be from being consistently too hot with the double blankets, but on that I can’t really speak on since I don’t know the temperatures etc. But I can say it’s very common, especially in sport horses, that horse owners over-blankets their horses. When you put your hand under the blanket, around the withers, it shouldn’t feel warm, it should be a neutral body temperature. Rolling is a sign of being too hot, which he instantly did when let out in his sand paddock.
My vet had told me that my mare had weak stifles and she suggested pelvic tilt and raising her back daily to help her. Look for my long post to see what else I am doing for her.
The fact that he was so reactive on the ground shows how he was not anywhere near ready to work under saddle. Until all of those things are ironed out, riding is only going to make things worse.
He also seems a bit frightened of Jesse approaching his right-side hindquarters.
I don’t think he’s frightened so much as he doesn’t understand what Jesse is asking, which is to yield his hind quarters by stepping across in back.
@@fleetskipper1810 I agree that there is a lack of understanding, but the big reactions suggest he doesn't trust people not to harm him.
He seems rather anxious, its so nice to see him being taught in a gentle way instead of just adding equipment and harsh training to try and make him submit. Kudo's to the owner for getting you to come and try to help him, I am sure you can do amazing things with him.
I hope you will take us along with you while working with Champ. I learned so must in this session. ❤
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Jesse once again doing what he does best. Animals know a good human when they meet one and Jesse’s patience is a gift.
This horse looks very spirited, talented and curious. The stables has no windows and I guess if having not enough of stimuli and a loads of energy in a very able body could cause that kind of bizarre reactions to environment. Almost looks like the horse doesn't like how wind feels on his mane and tale and is trying to kick of that tale multiple times! No aggressiveness toward his humans and Jesse is doing a great job in trying to help him to get use to it's sensitive, athletic body and trouble environment. Thank you for the owner for trying!
Sometimes explosive horses just need a big space to run in. If all he has is a stall, a small paddock area and a riding ring, I don't blame him for being frustrated. He's a big horse and a young horse who probably just wants to be able to run at top speed out in a huge pasture. He has a lot of pent-up energy and no way to release it. I know Jesse will will definitely be able to help. He just has a natural way of communicating with animals to put them at ease. I'm really looking forward to more videos of this interesting journey. Lots of horses and their owners could probably use Jesse's help. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I bet Champ get's to run around a field all summer with friends but there just aren't enough grassy meadows in the netherlands to have horses on them. Big stables here have small paddocks in the winter so the horses aren't cooped up in a stable all day. If you would keep them outside the whole year they will never have fresh grass and it will all turn into sand.
@@friezenfan If there's no room to fulfill a basic need for your horse, you shouldnt have a horse. The Randstad doesnt have enough fields or big paddocks to give all the horses that people want enough turnout. Yet people buy themselves a horse and board them at stables that have nice things, but just a 30 minute turnout in a paddock. It's cruel. But because people are selfish and because people care more about their own needs than the needs of the animals, these stables have enough customers and the horses suffer.
Agreed! I remember an ad in a local horse magazine that offered to teach your horse to go bitless and bridless but one important requirement was that your horse spends at least 6 hours a day outside in a paddock. I think that's the biggest source of all our problems with horses.
@@alisav8394From my personal experience, you are so right. Turnout for six or more hours a day solves many, many behavioral problems.
I have a 5 yr old Throughbred bred that acts similar to this guy. She is in a very large pasture (20 acres) with 10 other horses. She has plenty of room to stretch her legs and playmates the same age as her. She is out for 8-10 hours each day. Despite all of the time she has to burn out her energy she still displays similar anxiety related behaviors. I often notice she acts more anxious in bigger spaces. Seems very counterintuitive. I cant quite figure her out
Jesse, you are so intuitive with the horses. I would love to see how it progresses with Champ.
It’s so sad to see he doesn’t seem mean, but just confused!
Lots of luck with him though and lots of respect towards Anouk for not giving up and him! 🙏
Lovely work with him Jesse. He was far more relaxed and focused by the end. He seems like a horse who is not getting his need for movement/autonomous exercise met, so whenever he gets the chance to move his feet, he is just explosive and tense. He even appeared to attempt to self-mutilate at times (the "itchiness" on his shoulder). His turnout paddock is very small, not enough space for him to do much more than just stand there. That he was once quiet enough for lessons but has changed suddenly in the last year seems to suggest to a management issue.
There just isn't enough grassy meadows in the Netherlands for horses to be in there all year round. Big stables use these small paddocks so that the horse doesn't end up in the stable all that. I bet Champ gets to run around in a lovely field with friends all summer.
@@friezenfan Hopefully that is the case! I see a lot of pasturage behind that arena. But he is very clearly not a happy or relaxed horse in the here and now, so it is always good to start by examining the horse's fundamental management and see where it might not be meeting his needs, since physical/health issues have been ruled out. Many behavioral issues are management issues at their core.
He certainly liked his scratches that Jesse gave him. But I also felt that there was a little too much anxiety in the way Champ chose to scratch at his own shoulders. Just an observation; definitely no cristicism. The windy day wouldn't have helped the horse to relax!
@@Jessie-bo3nt if you put a horse out in that pasture right now before the weather is gonna be nice the grass will be ruined. That is the case in the netherlands. i my guess is that there isn't anything better nearby. it's big issue around the big cities in the netherlands.
@@friezenfan I understand that Champ is probably on a sacrifice lot for the winter to save the pasture. Hopefully he goes out on pasture with friends in the summer. And I get how difficult it is to keep horses near urban areas - I am right by NYC and space is limited here too. But that does not change the reality that Champ could have unmet needs. It could be that Jesse working with him will be enough to help him settle physically and mentally. There is also more than one way to provide a horse with free exercise - pasture turnout is not the only option. But I don’t believe Champ moving from stall to sacrifice paddock at his age and with his good condition is enough exercise or stimulation for him, especially as he is not even being ridden.
Lots of patience and time will help so much. He’s very tense.
If it was me I would go back to basic ground work for a while before riding him. He’s so sweet and a beautiful horse. Best of luck with him 😀
Love to see him knowing and doing exactly that! :)
His canter is all over the place. Like he's in a different lead with every single leg. Love your boots by the way.
Champ reminds me so much of what happened with my own horse when he had a change of environment....he was kept out with other horses where I bought him at age 4 1/2, but my own trainer put him in a stall/paddock and suddenly he had all kinds of dangerous/explosive behavioral issues. I moved him a year later and switched trainers (like Champ's owner, I was not willing to just give up on my horse), and the new trainer convinced me to keep him in a pasture with other horses instead of in a stall/paddock by himself. With the new trainer and new environment, he literally almost changed overnight back into the calm, sweet horse that I had bought. Turns out he REALLY needed to play with other horses to be happy and get out excess energy..he's 22 now and still plays HARD every morning with my other geldings in my home pasture, and he is always calm and ready to ride for me.
He likes you, Jesse. He seems to need to buck and act up but in the most polite way. Had you not mentioned that he’d been checked out thoroughly by a vet, I would have said that he seems very stiff.
I don't like to post much but I got to say this horse is full of anxiety. The tail tucking is a red flag, and a few times when he kicks around he is attempting to kick at his tail. He looks to have very tight fascia over his body and it shows in a few ways. Him trying to nibble at himself regularly at his chest, nostrils tight, and then Jessie pats him you can see the horse "flinch" and bends to his touch a few times. This decreases a bit when the horse warms up as the muscles warm up. This horse needs a lot of fascia release and body work. Tight in hamstrings/Semi-tendinosus, Brachiocephalic, Teres minor areas. The groundwork will just be a bandaid. The horse needs his body worked on first. Like a lot....
I honestly am drawn to horses like him. People consider them "problems" but they're almost always just very intelligent creatures who need extra help to figure things out. And he adored his scratches so much! That was super cute, he kept asking for them too! 😍
Watching the video of him being ridden my first thought was, he has no idea what is wanted of him. A pleasure to see Jesse work with him to gain trust and understanding of what is expected. Thank you Jesse for always being so sensitive to the animals needs
Changes in behavior and skin sensitivity both with rapid onset are signs of Lyme disease. Not saying he has Lyme but just a thought if he hasn't been tested yet. Jesse please stay safe and don't take chances that are too risky. It is very kind of you to try and help. Wish you and the horse the best. I will watch video later on today.
Haven't watched yet, but I've been watching Steve Young work with problem horses. Amazing results. It'll be interesting to see the differences. You might want to watch him a bit. And Warwick Schiller. Both fantastic.
I also watch Steve Young and find it amazing what he can do
Me too. He is very methodical with his initial tests to find out about the horse. Then focuses on what the horse needs to improve with.
There are any number of American Western trainers who make both of those guys look like novices. Especially the unheralded ones that are involved in the "mustang makeover" programs. Their methods and results are amazing and outstanding.
@@DoubleDogDare54 there are a few awful ones too 😬
@@lolosrainydays I love that both Schiller and Young really understand and use horse psychology: herd mentality, herd leader, fight or flight. They make doing the right thing easy. That's basically Schiller's mantra and a fundamental tenet of Steve Young's training. I have learned more than I ever thought I'd know just watching them.
Jesse , you have found your calling. Cheers From California 😊
I think: disclaimer I don't know the horse nor the owner but this seems the typical situation where the horse has been asked too much too soon.
Then after all that pressure the horse started to say no, and then had to say it louder.
It seems as he doesn't have good basics to start with. Some people get too focused on movements and tests and forget that without the basics is just not worth it.
Some horses cope well and some others don't. Of course horses have personality and this one seems to have a strong one. Hopefully thanks to Jesse he settles and gets some manners to start with and he will be a much happier horse.
With these situations though consistency is key. I just hope the owner is happy to continue to whatever Jesse decides to change.
It is so interesting to see how you read the horse and how you approach him! I would love to see an update on this huge boy.
This is why it’s so important to remember doing groundwork and not only tack up and get on. Change things up so they have to use their minds. This will create better bonds as well
I respect you and I respect your love and care of horses. You might be missing something here. I see in your horse something I began to see in my own 6 yo horse: week stifles. My horse would clamp her tail down when lunging, she would stand with one back leg, back beyond her tail, she could lunge nicely to the left but she would rear or stop going to the right. She was born on a flat farm, no hills at all. I am solving her issues, with the help of a great trainer in my barn, and with daily work, 3 days mounted (we worked up to that) and four days in hand. The in hand work is walking up and down hills for about 20 minutes, lunging both directions, and lunging over poles on the ground both directions. When riding, she has a warm quarter sheet on her bum (this made a huge difference), and we only walk and trot using movements that engage her hind quarters, and over poles on the ground. A key thing that I learned from a race horse trainer was to pull on her tail with both hands at right angles to her spine. I do this 10 times to a count of 10 on each side. I started with 5 times for a couple of days so she didn't object. She will stand still for this because it makes her feel better. Lots of licking and chewing afterward. After only 6 weeks of this, she moves much better and she lunges with a nice arc in her tail. She has a long way to go yet, but I am thrilled with the results so far. Today, I noticed the horizon beyond Champ and I thought about Giao, too. I hope this helps you and many other horses that don't have hills to work on.
Before I started this process to help my horse, she was biting herself, just as Champ is doing. She still does it a bit, but she has gotten better with this symptom, too.
Great comment! I, too, think it's an issue with his stifles, or particularly the left one. I never heard of the tail-pull therapy, but that's very interesting, and great to know it's helped your horse.
i feel like hes one of those horses that got trained to not react to fear and he just snapped because things became to much, hes such a sweet boy that just needs help
Just beautiful.
Wow. This is just amazing to watch.
Most people would've already had 'too much' during the lunging part where Champ was very reactive. But not Jesse! He understood the horse so well and wasn't scared of an animal that was not threatening him but expressing anger. I'm possibly tearing up a bit because it's so beautiful to see a horse getting exactly the respect it deserves while being guided to be a 'trained' horse
He is one lucky horse to have a caring owner who is exploring all avenues of rehabilitation/training for him. I have no doubt we will see some amazing work from Jesse on this project. Goedzo!
The way he mouths everything, almost like a child seeking comfort. I know you are going to help him. Thank you.
Love how he’s calm and not getting mad at the horse and getting all frustrated
Seems like a very sweet horse who just had the misfortune of being taught through force and pressure. Once he figures out that he won't get punished for mistakes or forced to do things he isn't sure of and learns emotional regulation I'm sure he'll be super sweet, reliable, and ambitious to ride as well!
Want to watch your training. You are wonderful with horses. You will win him over.
Jesse! U are the horse whisperer! This is your calling. Helping horses 🐎
My horse has been fully checked by a vet, too and cam back completely clear. He was being so good one second and then suddenly exploded out of nowhere. Turns out he has PSSM type 2 and after getting him on the right diet the symptoms of exploding on the ground and under the rider have nearly completely stopped! Unfortunately a lot of vets still discard PSSM type 2 tested through the genetic testing offered by Generatio in Germany. But the test results where the key to him getting better and getting back to being able to work with him again. But of course it can be something else entirely. In our case the test results and changing his diet to grain free and special supplements / mineral feed has helped and improved him so much. Maybe that'd be a possibility, too, if he's not tested yet. Lots of warmbloods actually have PSSM type 2.
Surprised he's been ridden in the past, he acts so green! What great patience everyone has with him learning the basics again
The thing that's so lovely about Jesse working with horses is that it opens the doors to lots of great conversations & helpful suggestion & ideas. We all get to feel involved in the process!!!
And who wouldn't just LOVE to be right there with him?
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Wow! Beautifully stated, Adrienne..♥
@@TheGarnetObsidian Thank you! 😄👍
I love it so much how you start from the ground! Not lunging, not tiring him out. But give him things to think and try out! I think some horses act out, because they are either confused or bored quickly. So fun to watch and good luck on this journey😊😊
This is extraordinary man and I like the way he includes his life and how he helps the fearful horse. Thank you for sharing.
I love seeing Jesse in work/training mode. He is so in tune with his horses that this no doubt benefits other more troubled horses. I’ve no doubt that Champ is in safe hands here 😊
Ground work is SO GOOD for all horses, no matter if they're "problem" horses or not. So excited that he's getting that experience with you ♥️
I have gotten a horse that felt trapped when you put any pressure on him. After a month of ground work (and with coaching from someone who knows all about it), he was so much happier and relaxed. Our communication improved so much. Can't wait to see how Champ responds!
This is awesome - It’s so hard working through past issues, especially with a young horse that seems to have had a bad experience.
Sadly, it's always hard working through past issues when there's a bad experience involved. It's a dirty job but sometimes we all gotta do it .😕
I know he's been vet-checked, but I can't help thinking he may have a sticky left stifle. Each time he acts up, it seems to be right after a short step with his left hind, or when his left hind is on the ground and he needs to lift and move it. There's also a very slight hesitancy with that leg, like he's expecting it to happen. With a sticking patella, it can be missed in a vet check because it doesn't happen all the time. Other things that point me toward that is that he circles left just fine, but when you ask him to do a tight circle right, when he'd have to reach under with that hind leg, he can't seem to do it comfortably. He also doesn't seem to be kicking out of high spirits, but out of a reaction to pain or frustration from being asked to do things that cause pain (not your fault if it's true... as I said, it seems that condition is hard to diagnose if it's not really pronounced). Just something to maybe watch as you and his owner continue to work with him, just in case that IS what it is.
Clearly we are all looking forward to learning more along with you. You are greatly admired for your insights and style!
Jesse you have to be the best trainer/horse behaviorist in the World. Beautiful nervous horse that needs the confidence you give. He almost acts as if maybe earlier trainers may have punished him for making mistakes. Just a guess on my part since I do not know his history. To me he seems as if he wants to please but blows up when he gets confused. If anyone can fix him you are the person. Best to you, Champ and his owner. May his future be bright. You are indeed a horse whisperer
I agree, this beautiful, yet scared horse maybe recounting all his past failures with humans.
He truly NEEDS A LEADER .
One that knows his language. Not ours! He needs to know rhe human is listening. All the pressure -with no releasing = explosive equine.
SAFETY. COMFORT ,FOOD
Top three cares of horses.
& who moves the hooves is Leader.
My TB mare was mind blown in school, like him , but thankfully smaller. 15.3
She'd been ridden with a short tie down, till she bled for poor saddle fit-30 days straight.
Then was given to me.
Pressure blew her mind. Bolting, rearing bucking, just from- trainer's having me take contact or exaggerate my leg . Sometimes just a simple lunge shed go crazy & erupt.
I had to quit lessons , not lunge around others , and practically buy extra insurance where I boarded.
You know what I did-
I hit the trails- never ever had another issue. 17 years of bliss . I practiced "Trailssage".
Halfpass,shoulder in/out ,flying changes whatever would have been done in arena.
She'd load up ,when I pointed to the trailer . She lead rides,crossed creeks, bridges ,rivers .
All bitless and "soft saddle" cashell bareback pad. She went to the beaches, Mountains, jumped anything I pointed her towards----
But, that school, in the arena, blew her mind.
Though, I came back to the lunge - but free- She'd do walk trot(slow and low or extended, canter, piaffe -
ALL WITH HAND SIGNALS no words.
Hope Jesse reaches this horse- I Imagine he did,or he wouldn't by airing this- if it failed.
For me,I was a bit cringy with Jesse not having any personal a space,nibbling nudging,knocking into him...not very good.
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PR🙏 YING for his continued safety.
Such a beautiful boy. I have complete respect for his owner seeking help and the confident and compassionate way you worked with him. I'm so relieved that I'm not alone in this kind of challenge. When my boy, similar in size and breeding, was 6, he was so much like this. Took lots of groundwork, patience, and consistency to help him mature into a respectful and confident partner. Still, now at 10, there are challenges, but nothing like his former behavior. One thing please do: put overreach boots and exercise boots on him so he doesn't hit himself when he acts up and moves quickly sideways. It only takes one time for him to step on his coronet band or knock himself on a tendon or cannon bone and you'll have an unfortunate injury.
He's got such a baby face, he really just looks confused (and frustrated because of it) more than anything. For him to have such a nice first meeting with you on a VERY windy day really speaks to how much experience you have to maintain composure when the horse isn't able to themselves. Really, that kind of weather can inspire even a mild mannered older horse to be a bit hotsy-totsy! I'm very excited to learn from your experiences with him and as always greatly admire your commitment to approaching any "problem" with patience and compassion.
Bless you, Jessie.
Wow! By 8 minutess in, there were already significant changes in his behavior, but by 13 minutes, wow!! When you finished the video, to see how calmly he stood behind you was amazing! You have the touch, Jesse. 💯🏆🐴
You do realize that he didn’t only work with him for 13 minutes, don’t you?
Champ is a gorgeous sweet horse still very young. His behaviour is unpredictable and it is best to avoid riding him. Even ground work is not easy! He has a lot of energy and is dominant but his behaviour is also suggesting fear, he seems stressed and tense. Maybe he feels pain? He has been checked several times by the vet but some pathologies of the body or mind are not always easy to detect. I don't mean that the vet is incompetent!!!
Is your friend his first owner? Anything special happened in Champ's life?
Jesse has started work sessions and if the problem can be corrected or solved, he is definitely the man for the job. I sincerely hope so for the horse and his owner. Jesse, being able to look at your well explained work is always very interesting and I will be happy to see you soon.
Thank you so much! 💙
I’m amazed at how calm and kind you were with him, even with how big and unpredictable he is. So impressed by both you and his owner for trying to help him and not just writing him off.
Let me just first say that this horse is stunningly gorgeous and kudos to the very caring owner for continuing to help her horse find resolve!!!!! Next, I just don’t believe this is a behavioral issue - I know you said he’s been vetted many times…. But he keeps his tail pretty tucked and moves his butt and back legs pretty stiff at times and kicks out as if he is trying to rid/release a sensation and holds his head very high as if to compensate for what is going on in the back end. You notice when he walks through the barn his head is low and he is for the most part relaxed… but seems to act up when being asked to bend or move out…. it’s almost like something locks up within him that causes him to act out as if trying to release what has locked up….I just don’t think this is a behavioral issue…. my last thought is to have the animal communicator come out that Matt used before and see if she can pick up anything up…. I really think he’s got something physically going on….have you had a chiro out for their thoughts? Again, gorgeous gorgeous boy! Sending good wishes his way as I hate to see a horse struggle for any reason and again kudos to the very caring owner ❤️
Amazing. I can see Champ beginning to take a chance at trusting you ... to maybe recognizing and experience loving kindness from you. You Jesse Drent, so much love inside the being you are. The world is blessed to have you in it.
Yoooo Jesse! Now here's a guy knows a quality dude when he reads about one (you). This is a man who isn't afraid to show or verbalize his respect for your talent & abilities! You deserve no less. ❤️😄❤️
Kudos to owner for keeping on trying. This guy may need a bigger pen and some playmates in his paddock. He was treating Jesse like a playmate, the banter between them during session was interesting to watch. I hope this beautiful horse finds his mental balance. Fun video
The owner certainly has my sympathy and applause for keeping and doing all she can to help solve Champs' issues. 🙌 Great start and hopefully you'll take us along on the journey as far as can be. Prayers up for Champ. 🙏❣
Some people just have a natural feeling for horses. I'm not saying that Jesse didn't work for it, trianed himself and all that, but you can tell that Jesse has that natural feeling and goes with the flow of the horse. He is really intuitive and reads horses very well. He is also really good at explaining and making people that watch him understand why he's doing certain things ans how he's thinking when training horses.
Im a big fan of going back to complete square 1 when something is not going right. Love it
He fiddles with the lead rope like a kid with a fidget and wants to be anywhere but with humans. Sweet boy, he’ll catch on with the right guidance.
Jesse someone mentioned that you are a gift to the horse world. I agree 💯 %. You are amazing with horses. Can't wait to see the next videos.
My first thought was ulcer, then chiropractor.
Then I read that he has been checked by a vet. And I agree with other comments, that he's showing frustration, because he's a young horse, who only has a tiny pasture, and no buddies to play with.
How will he be able to vent?
I always feed my horses a little hay while brushing, as it prevents stomach acid sloshing around in an empty tummy, and it calms them down a bit.
He would really benefit from gymkhana and other exercises where he needs to think, the collection and dressage won't work, when he has tons of built up energy.
He needs to do serpentines between sticks, to focus on where his feet are, going over, around, in and out of obstacles.
First by hand, then from the saddle.
Get his head to focus on where his body is, and what it's doing, then he can take that knowledge into dressage.
I would also do free work with him, he wants to play, so have playtime, have fun together, make him be superfocused on where you are, and to match you.
She has to do his stuff, before asking him to do her stuff.
So many people are trying to "force" animals (and even people) to fit into their own needs and wants, without considering the others needs or wants.
I know he’s been checked by the vet but I would recommend seeing an ortho or osteo. He really looks like he has issues with his hind end and most vets don’t specialize in diagnosing this type of problem. I’m an osteopath and this does not look like strictly a behavioral problem. Best of luck to all. ❤
You;'re a horse whisperer, Jesse! I'm so he's taken to you so you can help him get calmer, and to teach the owner to help him too. Bravo to her to asking for help when she felt like she needed it- the sign of a good owner!
So kind of you to help Champ. Please keep us posted how he does in his progress. He's beautiful.
You can tell that he was an insecure big baby that’s frustrated and not understanding what is being asked of him. Then once he started understanding what you were asking he got it and relaxed. He also started trusting you.
Love your approach. Thank you for sharing.
H3s still very young. Seems to be a bit confused when being. Asked.. patience is aa virtue. I like your quiet approach
Looks like his front right knee keeps giving out and he seems super stiff. Maybe therapists could help. So happy so see an owner trying to stick it out. Behaviors always come from somewhere so its important to investigate and solve the mystery.
Aw bless him he’s just a baby. I noticed a lot of licking and chewing towards the end 😊
This horse is beautiful but clearly stressed and frustrated. There is likely some holes in his training or possibly some harsh training from the past. He is still young. He is communicating that something is wrong. Is he allowed to frolic and play? Does he get any turn out? Any pasture /social time with horse friends? Your approach is likely just what he needs: Calm, gentle and soft, relaxed and listening to what he is trying to tell you. Bravo, too to his owner for not giving up! I look forward to following the progress!
I bet champ gets to run around in a lovely field with friends all summer. But the Netherlands just doesn't have enough grassy meadows for horses to be turned out all year
Another thing, you have a great mindset around the whip, just using it for extra clearance and guidance to the horse. But remember: you're not the one who decides if the whip is bad or good - the horse does. If the horse ever had bad experiences it doesn't matter how softly you use the whip, as soon as he sees it he will make a connection and know exactly what it's capable of doing to him. Just a food for thought.
His face when you scratch him on the neck!!!!!🤣 He is a beautiful horse.
You are doing a great Job, Jesse! I hope Champs owner lets him outside with other horses a lot, just to enjoy.
so interesting! loved to watch it!
Thank you. So nice to see someone using calm voice and cues and great deal of patience. Had he been given free time when coming from stall time BEFORE being asked to stand for grooming or arena work time? Youth requires free time to run, jump and express their feelings before having anything asked of them. You are doing a great job. Thank you for sharing.
I loved seeing this. My horse is not explosive, but he doesn't like to lunge and I've been struggling to teach him because I don't want to fight. People have tried to help me but I don't like there methods. I never thought of trying with schooling whip. A lungevwhip always feels so heavy and my hands are full,, and we end up all 9ver the place. I'm excited to learn more from this video. Oh I'm all the way from south Africa. Hope you and Matt come visit us some time. We have nice horses here too.
Please show the progress with this horse, he seems to be very sweet without a mean spirit, just anxious and frustrated
I look forward to seeing the video updates of this guy, he has already thrived in just this one session with you, Jesse. You can tell he had a lot of pent up energy and frustration and didn't know what to do with it, you truly are a gift to horses and let them express how they feel about it, without just assuming they're being bad and getting after them for it. He seems like a such a sweetie, even though he is also dominant and wanted to take control
You are a gem to take on this horse and his emotional state. I'm wondering if this horse gets any liberty time in an open space, and does he get playtime with any other horses? He seems mentally very young, with TONS of pent-up energy in both his mind and body. Both he and the owner are lucky to have you on their team now! I look forward to watching how things go with you all 🖤
I bet he gets to run in a lovely field all summer but there just isn't enough grassy meadows in the Netherlands to keep your horse in a field all year round. Big stables like this turn them out in small paddocks in the winter to save the grass for the summer. It's better then standing in a stable all day
Welcome Champ - what a gorgeous horse! Thank you for taking us along and for explaining so well. It will be an interesting journey for sure! And I hope Champ and his owner get to be an amazing team together!
Lucky horse. He's in very capable hands. The best. Looking forward to seeing the progress 😊
Great to see Champ go from confused and frustrated to confident. Jesse's patient and clear direction makes all the difference. I hope his owner can continue because Champ has graceful movement when he can understand. Kudos to all 3 of you.
Champ needs a calm and confident but firm trainer that doesn't let him get away with pushing people when he's "unsure". Horses have two mechanisms to deal with stress...flight (run away) or fight (kick and stomp or run over you). When he can't get explosive and run away from things that make him uncomfortable...he gets pushy into the person to a point he could be dangerous. Dealing with stress is a learning process for all animals. He needs to just realize that the person is not going to just push him into a situation too fast when he's not happy with, but also realize that the person isn't going to let him get away with refusing to do things that are really not harmful. The more positive experiences he has in overcoming those events that make him uncomfortable but are not really harmful or dangerous, the more trust he starts to gain in the person training him and then the quicker he can work through areas and accept things that make him uncomfortable. I'm sure Jessie can do that...but his current owner also needs to repeat what Jessie does to learn for herself and gain that trust from him too.
Reminds me a lot of a mare I worked with recently. Took a year and a half but we got her good and relaxed and more confident through a combination of turnout in a herd with a lead mare that demanded respectful behavior without being mean about it, using shorter sessions, and started by only asking yes questions. Made a massive difference.
16:45 yo that looked kinda dangerous, i hope no one will get hurt 😶😶 a hoof to the head might not be very pretty, accidental or not.
Champ is so lucky to have people trying to help him, i know many would just find it too stressful ❤️ don’t give up Anouk but be careful
Oh jeez ... !!! Here I go again, back 2 giant-head worry ...😳😱
Yeah, I don't understand why Jesse is not wearing a helmet around a horse that strikes like that. No matter why a horse does it (and I agree with everyone saying he seems young, confused, overstressed and frustrated, and having trouble using his body) that kind of strike with the foreleg is how horses actually aim to kill other animals. It's super dangerous. There's literally no reason not to just wear a helmet at least.
This is incredible to watch. You're low key demeanor while also explaining to us what was going on was wonderful. I loved the way he watched you waiting for you to react to what he was doing. He did seem a bit confused when you didn't react. Then he would try to do something else waiting again for your reaction, and you just kept constantly talking low and giving him the commands. It can be done, but as you said, it's going to take some sessions. I'm a little bit behind in watching, so I'm looking forward to seeing how Champ progresses. You can tell his bright, because he's picked up your whistling and shushing sounds and knows what to do when you make those noises only after a few moments. Then the reaction with the whip to bringing His hind end in..incredible. Thanks for taking us on this journey.
Good luck with Champ. I bet he’ll be alike a puppy following you around in no time. He’s a real beauty.
Jesse I'm glad you are patient, kind, gentle, and caring. He is a beautiful horse and I believe you will be able to help him and his owner. Looking forward to seeing more of this horse and how he progresses.
The Hay Gain was interesting to see. I’m very glad I live where there is no snow. Electrolytes and salt works here.
Wonderful job with the horse. Keep up the good work.
You are so compassionate with that horse. I 💕 it
It would be amazing if Symone, the animal communicator that was on Matt’s channel, could read this beautiful but struggling horse. I wonder if there’s some kind of skin allergy or something. He seemed uncomfortable and “itchy” at times. Jesse, you and the owner are so kind and clearly vested in helping this horse. He is lucky to be in your gentle and kind hands.
I was thinking that Champ needs a session with Symone as well, particularly because she stressed she doesn’t have to be present to carry out an evaluation. She was amazing to watch as she worked with the horses. I find it interesting that you mentioned the “itchiness” because Champ was showing some kind of tick or nervous energy. Is there something triggering in his diet that the vet wouldn’t necessarily be looking for or pick up on?
I really agree! I came here to say that! Maybe champ has something to say about why he is being this way.
I feel consulting an osteopath or someone who specializes in diagnosing issues with the musculoskeletal system would be more beneficial. It’s good that the horse has seen a veterinarian but they rarely specialize in diagnosing these types of issues. I think the horse likely has an issue with his stifles or possibly slightly higher up in the pelvis. He exhibits behaviors that are consistent with that and he seems consistent in his discomfort. Looks like a patellar issue to me.
@@clarkosteo Very interesting information. Let’s hope Champ gets the help he needs for any possible affliction. 🙏💙
Basic pressure and release 💜💜💜 thank you Jesse!!
I really loved the way that you presented us with the actual start of the meet and greet, and then went on to show us from the very beginning of you hands on methods, and how you worked through each and every situation with ease, poise and class, thankyou