I like these kinds of videos... perhaps a chart of what defines a rev dominant vs speed dominant bowler. I am in the middle, but I can quicken my feet to increase speed and adjust my release for more/less revs as needed.
I just bought a Thrill Max solid . First week with it and didnt have a double. About a dozen splits , 7 pins, 10pins. It was a total mess. That ball hooked much harder than expected. I had it drilled to go long too. Oh well , I'm sure week 2 will be better.
Great Video! I am more rev dominate and have trouble throwing the "Big Balls" My current arsenal is the Ultimate Defender, Defender Hybrid, Black Venom, Nu Blue polished, Sneak Attack and the Tundra Blue Fire. Ultimate Defender Rarely gets used on house shots. Didn't like the Nu Blue on house shots until I shined it up. The Defender Hybrid and Tundra Blue Fire have been getting the most use out of my bag recently. May replace the Defender Hybrid with the DV8 Mantra soon.
Rev dominant two-hander here. I’ve currently got a Rhino (excellent beginner ball - I recently learned to hook on it) and a Venom ExJ. Love the ExJ. Being a stronger ball, it’s forced me to learn to have more control over those revs, but it can still be a bit too much ball at times. Looking for something in between the two. Supra GT is on the list, but I was hoping for something with a smoother motion and less snap down lane. Any recommendations?
I'm a pretty rev dominant guy (16 mph @ 430 rpm) looking for a smoother symmetrical pearl on the weaker side of medium. I absolutely love my shined up Tropical Surge when lanes are toasty and am looking for a ball up from it to play earlier. Tried the Hyper Venom as my 2 ball, but as you said, it ended up being too much ball. Through the face on half my shots.
I was hoping to see the IQ tour ruby down low. It’s my go to since I’m quite rev dominant. I’ve been trying to fit the Sublime in my bag above the ruby. Would that be closer to a strong sharp or a medium sharp?
Rev dominant players on a super cliffed league shot need to think outside the box. Bring a big strong slow asym with a short pin layout and play right up against the cliff.
I have a very rev dominant 1h no thumb player with a Primal Shock and a solid Raw Hammer as his 2 ball but he kinda wants something in between those two balls. Any suggestions?
One easy way is to put a piece of tape on your track, take a video of you throwing the ball, counting the rotations of the tape, then find a calculator online that can help you ballpark it
I’m a 2 hander with a high rev rate and a 13-14 mph ball speed, my current arsenal consists of a Trailblazer solid, a Phaze 2, and a red white dot which doubles as a spare ball and strike ball once the lanes are super dry, I also have a nu blue that I typically don’t bring. What balls would you recommend to get upgrade my arsenal, however I would like to keep it around 3-4 balls as once you get passed that it’s a pain to bring them with me
My son (14) is a 2 hander with a slower ball speed than you (11-12)mph. He has had some success on THS with VEBO,Infinite Physics,Huslte M&M. He wants a Optimum idol next. Not sure if that would fit him or not. Any suggestions from anybody would be great.
I think the idol might be a touch too strong for him, unless if you get it drilled weaker, but I feel like a radical spy would be a great fit for him if he wants to play straight, cuz to be honest I prefer to play straighter as it’s easier to repeat shots more consistently and I feel like it carries a bit better than hooking the whole lane
Thanks I will look into that ball. He has his balls drilled with a weak 2LS. THS he bowls on is not dry so that helps him. He prefers to play staighter also
How would you go about building a three ball arsenal for a rev dominant bowler? For me I currently have a trailblazer solid, a phaze 2, and a white dot as my 3 ball arsenal, I also have a nu blue hammer and a double cross but they don’t get much use from me, I’ve been looking to upgrade my arsenal lately so what would you recommend, I also throw it pretty slow at 13-14 mph but I’m very up the back of the ball
I’d recommend a few pearl/shiny balls. Rev dominant bowlers usually need help getting the ball downlane, and solid balls hook earlier so having 1/2 medium/shiny or weak/shiny balls would help
what types of ball layouts would you recommend for rev dominant players. are you putting weaking drillings on these weaker balls? or a versatile driling like the Pin over the bridge?
Thank you for answering my previous questions and i appreciate your advice. I have another question and need to provide some context. I am a rev dominant bowler (15 mph, 300 rpm) and my bowling balls are 14 lb (heaviest I can go with physical limitations). Is the X-Cell still strong/smooth with the 14 lb ball, where the RG/Diff is 2.55/.048, compared to the 15-16 lb balls with 2.50/.050-.056? Or should i consider the BW 3.0 with RG/Diff of 2.50/.056 for the 14 lb ball? Or is it the coverstock that is more important? Just trying to learn as much as possible. Thanks again!
Thank you for the video! Very informative. I'm definitely a rev dominant bowler. Currently, I have a Phaze II, Ion Pro, and Hy-Road hybrid. What ball(s) do you recommend to boost my arsenal? Thanks!
I think it depends - if your HyRoad is ever too long/doesn’t hook, I’d look toward a Road Warrior or Phaze AI. If these balls are ever too strong/early, I’d look toward something weak like a Hustle
@@ZVLBowling Thanks! I do need a weaker ball like the Hustle. Would you recommend a ball stronger than the Phaze II, like the X-Cell of Black Widow 3.0?
What about an arsenal for us strokers? I feel like I am a big ball away from a solid arsenal. Hammer Effect, Black Widow 3.0, Tour Dynamix, IQ Tour Ruby. Thoughts on something stronger for Fresh?
Hello and sorry for late messaging to this post. Needing some advice as left 2H bowler. I have done over 25 years as 1H but now getting back into bowling for last 3 months and transfered to 2H. I have the summit ascent, purple hammer urethane, and black widow 2.0 hybrid. Im leaning towards transferring my bw2h to 1H because it's to much 2H and now considering my summit as a controllable sharp mid to high end ball.. should I look into phase 2 or iq tour next? Went to storm matchmaker event and didn't like the ion pro because it wasn't reading/ doing what I was looking for at the time of testing. It could have been the layout so I am willing to give it a second chance but already have bad vibes on that ball. Basically looking for a purple hammer like motion (controllable, predictable, and smooth motion) that's not urethane. Any suggestions? Also I have thrown the sublime focuse and liked that motion but worry if I would be to much of a ball for house shots and if I go to tournaments. Thanks all in advance.
The Ion Pro is MUCH weaker than you’d think, so you’re seeing it correctly. With that, the IQ will be similar to the Ion but a little sharper The Focus is very, very strong so I’d go with an Optimum Idol instead because it’ll be smoother
I never really liked this way of categorizing a bowling arsenal, as it sometimes confused me when actually needing to change balls. Reading some of the comments below reminds me of that. People may have X-Cells drilled with layouts that make it more angular/sharp downlane, or someone may have an Infinity with a rougher finish or a smoother layout. Nice video regardless, I enjoy the content of this channel.
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Good move Trev, good move
I like these kinds of videos... perhaps a chart of what defines a rev dominant vs speed dominant bowler. I am in the middle, but I can quicken my feet to increase speed and adjust my release for more/less revs as needed.
I just bought a Thrill Max solid . First week with it and didnt have a double. About a dozen splits , 7 pins, 10pins. It was a total mess. That ball hooked much harder than expected. I had it drilled to go long too. Oh well , I'm sure week 2 will be better.
Looking forward to the series.
Any plans for a Speed Dominant League Bowling Arsenal video? Love your work and I have appreciated finding your channel!
The video i needed🐐🐐!!!
Great Video! I am more rev dominate and have trouble throwing the "Big Balls" My current arsenal is the Ultimate Defender, Defender Hybrid, Black Venom, Nu Blue polished, Sneak Attack and the Tundra Blue Fire. Ultimate Defender Rarely gets used on house shots. Didn't like the Nu Blue on house shots until I shined it up. The Defender Hybrid and Tundra Blue Fire have been getting the most use out of my bag recently. May replace the Defender Hybrid with the DV8 Mantra soon.
I would love to see one on the old dinosaur release full rollers what a league arsenal would be like. Keep up the great videos and content..!!!
Rev dominant two-hander here. I’ve currently got a Rhino (excellent beginner ball - I recently learned to hook on it) and a Venom ExJ. Love the ExJ. Being a stronger ball, it’s forced me to learn to have more control over those revs, but it can still be a bit too much ball at times. Looking for something in between the two. Supra GT is on the list, but I was hoping for something with a smoother motion and less snap down lane. Any recommendations?
Motiv Black Venom
I'm a pretty rev dominant guy (16 mph @ 430 rpm) looking for a smoother symmetrical pearl on the weaker side of medium.
I absolutely love my shined up Tropical Surge when lanes are toasty and am looking for a ball up from it to play earlier. Tried the Hyper Venom as my 2 ball, but as you said, it ended up being too much ball. Through the face on half my shots.
Currently considering The Road and IQ Ruby
I was hoping to see the IQ tour ruby down low. It’s my go to since I’m quite rev dominant. I’ve been trying to fit the Sublime in my bag above the ruby. Would that be closer to a strong sharp or a medium sharp?
The Ruby would also fit in that slot!
As for the Sublime, it’ll probably be closer to a strong/sharp for you
@@ZVLBowling thank you! I’ve been having trouble with that ball but I feel like I can get it down. With more practice we will see.
did you do one of these for low rev / low speed ?
if not, any balls you recommend ? 🙂
Rev dominant players on a super cliffed league shot need to think outside the box. Bring a big strong slow asym with a short pin layout and play right up against the cliff.
Can we get a video for speed and rev matched league arsenal?
I have a very rev dominant 1h no thumb player with a Primal Shock and a solid Raw Hammer as his 2 ball but he kinda wants something in between those two balls. Any suggestions?
I'd go with something shiny like a Hyper Venom or Scorpion Strike
what about if you matched on both speed and revs
how do I find out my rev’s ?
One easy way is to put a piece of tape on your track, take a video of you throwing the ball, counting the rotations of the tape, then find a calculator online that can help you ballpark it
I’m a 2 hander with a high rev rate and a 13-14 mph ball speed, my current arsenal consists of a Trailblazer solid, a Phaze 2, and a red white dot which doubles as a spare ball and strike ball once the lanes are super dry, I also have a nu blue that I typically don’t bring. What balls would you recommend to get upgrade my arsenal, however I would like to keep it around 3-4 balls as once you get passed that it’s a pain to bring them with me
My son (14) is a 2 hander with a slower ball speed than you (11-12)mph. He has had some success on THS with VEBO,Infinite Physics,Huslte M&M. He wants a Optimum idol next. Not sure if that would fit him or not. Any suggestions from anybody would be great.
I think the idol might be a touch too strong for him, unless if you get it drilled weaker, but I feel like a radical spy would be a great fit for him if he wants to play straight, cuz to be honest I prefer to play straighter as it’s easier to repeat shots more consistently and I feel like it carries a bit better than hooking the whole lane
Thanks I will look into that ball. He has his balls drilled with a weak 2LS. THS he bowls on is not dry so that helps him. He prefers to play staighter also
@@carmmarian8124or even a hammer axe, the radical spy is a spare ball with a asymmetric core and the axe is a spare ball with a reactive cover
How would you go about building a three ball arsenal for a rev dominant bowler? For me I currently have a trailblazer solid, a phaze 2, and a white dot as my 3 ball arsenal, I also have a nu blue hammer and a double cross but they don’t get much use from me, I’ve been looking to upgrade my arsenal lately so what would you recommend, I also throw it pretty slow at 13-14 mph but I’m very up the back of the ball
I’d recommend a few pearl/shiny balls. Rev dominant bowlers usually need help getting the ball downlane, and solid balls hook earlier so having 1/2 medium/shiny or weak/shiny balls would help
Good video..but one question, which is better between raw hammer and ocean vibe, in the weak/sharp category for rev dominant bowler? Thanks
I’d recommend an Ocean Vibe, but the Raw works too
@@ZVLBowling thanks for your opinion
Where would you put the Radical Hitter?
In the strong/smooth category
what types of ball layouts would you recommend for rev dominant players. are you putting weaking drillings on these weaker balls? or a versatile driling like the Pin over the bridge?
You can get away with stronger drillings on the weaker balls even when rev dominant - the weaker covers help more than the core
@@ZVLBowling which layout would you recommend from layouts #1-6 on the storm 2LS chart for these weaker balls?
What would you think of an arsenal rocking a Zen Master, Virtual Energy Blackout, Purple Pearl Urethane, Motiv Max Thrill and a White Dot??
Love it!
Thank you for answering my previous questions and i appreciate your advice. I have another question and need to provide some context. I am a rev dominant bowler (15 mph, 300 rpm) and my bowling balls are 14 lb (heaviest I can go with physical limitations). Is the X-Cell still strong/smooth with the 14 lb ball, where the RG/Diff is 2.55/.048, compared to the 15-16 lb balls with 2.50/.050-.056? Or should i consider the BW 3.0 with RG/Diff of 2.50/.056 for the 14 lb ball? Or is it the coverstock that is more important? Just trying to learn as much as possible. Thanks again!
Thank you for the video! Very informative. I'm definitely a rev dominant bowler. Currently, I have a Phaze II, Ion Pro, and Hy-Road hybrid. What ball(s) do you recommend to boost my arsenal? Thanks!
I think it depends - if your HyRoad is ever too long/doesn’t hook, I’d look toward a Road Warrior or Phaze AI. If these balls are ever too strong/early, I’d look toward something weak like a Hustle
@@ZVLBowling Thanks! I do need a weaker ball like the Hustle. Would you recommend a ball stronger than the Phaze II, like the X-Cell of Black Widow 3.0?
If your Phaze II sometimes isn’t hooking enough, then absolutely. Both are great options
What about an arsenal for us strokers? I feel like I am a big ball away from a solid arsenal. Hammer Effect, Black Widow 3.0, Tour Dynamix, IQ Tour Ruby. Thoughts on something stronger for Fresh?
Is this for people that are 8 to 10 miles per hour bowlers
Hello and sorry for late messaging to this post. Needing some advice as left 2H bowler. I have done over 25 years as 1H but now getting back into bowling for last 3 months and transfered to 2H. I have the summit ascent, purple hammer urethane, and black widow 2.0 hybrid. Im leaning towards transferring my bw2h to 1H because it's to much 2H and now considering my summit as a controllable sharp mid to high end ball.. should I look into phase 2 or iq tour next? Went to storm matchmaker event and didn't like the ion pro because it wasn't reading/ doing what I was looking for at the time of testing. It could have been the layout so I am willing to give it a second chance but already have bad vibes on that ball. Basically looking for a purple hammer like motion (controllable, predictable, and smooth motion) that's not urethane. Any suggestions? Also I have thrown the sublime focuse and liked that motion but worry if I would be to much of a ball for house shots and if I go to tournaments. Thanks all in advance.
The Ion Pro is MUCH weaker than you’d think, so you’re seeing it correctly. With that, the IQ will be similar to the Ion but a little sharper
The Focus is very, very strong so I’d go with an Optimum Idol instead because it’ll be smoother
@ what about the phase 2?
The Phaze 2 would also work! It’ll be a little sharper than the Optimum
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You think the optimal idol a good rev dominate ball
I have an optimum idol and vebo, would the storm fate be a good ball for the burn or is it too strong and i should look towards a hustle instead?
It’s a bit strong but could still work
A Hustle with a pearl cover or the HyRoad will do
How about the Hammer Purple Reactive in the weak category?
if you throw urethane during league, stop it.
Yeah that would fit really well
I never really liked this way of categorizing a bowling arsenal, as it sometimes confused me when actually needing to change balls. Reading some of the comments below reminds me of that. People may have X-Cells drilled with layouts that make it more angular/sharp downlane, or someone may have an Infinity with a rougher finish or a smoother layout. Nice video regardless, I enjoy the content of this channel.
I honestly don't know which type of bowler I am
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