I wonder how powerful end of story Asta will be cuz Asta is in the final arc of his run and can only become more powerful while Naruto peaked at Baryon mode and lost Kurama.
@@saleeksmith4765both are universal scaling if you include the time-space statement and infinite world statment so idk how one is better then the other
@@saleeksmith4765 being infinite would make it universal nothing else same with how the statment of space-time would make kaguya's dimension's universal
As a neutral person, I would say that Naruto is stronger, but with the end of the Black Clover manga, it is possible that Asta will reach the same level
Right like I was about to say... That's bait, cuz this is one-sided. Naruto can make casually, without Kurama at all, 1000 times his one self. All of relativity in skill, speed, power, all dat; just split in chakra reserves. Of which he has a TREMENDOUS amount. He can make 5000 casually by the Six Paths point. 1/5000th of that, is still the most daunting thing Asta would know yet. 😅
people forget but the demon destroyer is actually passive as it was shown the same day asta got it to come out of the book on its own and the second time was when asta time got stopped by lucious and the first sword to come out was demon destroyer casuing for him to move out of it and cancel the time stop spell.
@saleeksmith4765 except that doesn't make much sense given the Four great elementals only scale to at best Multi continental. Also same thing could apply to Obito in this case. It's obvious a hax based ability like her Dreamworld would scale to her having Uni ap.
For naruto's speed isn't Raikage stated to be able to peak over light speed with his Lightning Cloak? so kid naruto could speed blitz the Raikage by the chunin exams?
No that’s not exactly true raikage wasn’t exactly stated to be light speed it was his technique the lighting cloak which has stated to be light speed anybody who isn’t light speed but knows this technique becomes automatically becomes light speed but if someone is already or above light speed the lighting cloak just adds onto his speed
Those are just delusional OP fans that try high ball the ever living sh*t out of luffy. There are generally fans who believe he is star level which is insane considering no one in One piece has even shown planetary feats
@@raven717 the star probably comes from op verse being theorized to be as big as a star or a dwarf star due to multiple statements like Marco saying you can count till 20 or 30 billion islands and still not complete all of the map or someone along those lines and we know countries as big as our continents exists in op verse like alabasta. So if we take stuff at face value Whitebeard being able to destroy the world would imply the star level feat and many characters have frown stronger than Whitebeard.
@@editimpact66the star lvl comes from people who say that blackbeard used a black hole or that the black hole attack from the df has infinite gravity💀🗿
In the movie we see that asta's anti magic can't just negate anything. Its shown that simply being so much stronger can just overpower anti magic several times. On top of the fact that asta's only realistically Continental+ at max and to get him past Ftl+ u have to use ridiculous amps and multipliers. Which u can literally do for any character including naruto. Realistically naruto has too much hax and raw power to the point asta doesn't stand a choice
Wrong asta scales to large planet and it can be argued to universal level but thats pushing it, and speed base asta is 95x speed at min and other characters using that base asta combat speed can be calculated to 38000x lsp and since then has become much faster and then got another 20 to 100 times multiplier and he can be argued to unmeasurable speed as he moved in a void of zero time but cause that was magic it is pushing it
Naruto has higher AP Asta has the speed advantage Chakra=Mana needs to be explained more, if it actually is true that they are the same Asta takes it but if not Asta isn't getting through him i'm rooting for Asta so i'll like if Broku can elaborate the similarities between mana and chakra
Its not something to argue about, its literally just a prefight condition you set. Its called "verse equalization" and you specify it, and if its not specified then you take "not the same power" as a default.
idk why people make this comparison chakra is the fusion physical and mental energy also the way they use jutsu and magic are different the lore is different and the requirements are different i really don't like verse equalization it just dumbs down power systems just because both do some flashy attacks doesn't mean its the same
@@chineduajulu859 their lore is different the way they use them is different most anime have the energy power system but have different things with them just because they look the same or are elemental doesn't mean there the same not trying to be a mean guy i just don't like when people dumb down anime power systems to fit their narrative
If we're talking about aste before the spade arc then naruto utterly stomps But if it's after and further Then it's a different story Asta at the very beginning of the spade arc ia power enough to withstand Dante's gravity 800 over The same gravity thdt was powerful enough to bend light The amount of gravity required to bend light is equivalent to that of a star now Dante amplifying this gravitational force with 80% devil energy which is literally over 800 over and asta and Yami wwre still able to withstand it Even if we remove verse equalization aats still has the advantage Since the actual name for his energy in the databook is known as ANTI-ENERGY Which automatically puts him about almost all kinds of energy Nice collaboration tho I understand broku had to low-ball asta th same way you did to naruto So it's a win win But still think asts is the clear winner in this battle
Anti-energy being anti every power system is a no limits fallacy. Chakra or ki(dbz) or nen or basically any other system being effected by anti magic is just not how it goes as just because they are types of energy dosen't mean anti magic works as these energies are seperate compared to any energy that bc verse has. And again so6p chakra and sage chakra are also different from regular chakra.
@@somanchipranav1964 Well asta has actually negated different energy types Like Mana Negative energy (classified as negative Mana) Devil power And curse energy And the true potentials of anti-energy is yes to be discovered
You are terribly wrong. Any amount of mass is capable of warping space-time causing light to look bent or warped. The earth's gravity "bends" light onto the surface of the moon during a total lunar eclipse causing a reddish hue typically termed as a blood moon and gravitational lensing is used to discover new planets. At best, I would say the amount of mass dante created is equivalent to that of a mountain (which is still massive) but not to a BLOODY STAR. If the amount of mass dante created was on a star level, the gravity would rip apart the entire earth, alongsides the moon, mars and even jupiter as well within a fraction of a second. For your second point, anti-magic isn't invincible as you think and we've seen evidence in the black clover movie. Asta was clearly struggling to break through a magical barrier created by the wizard kings even using his anti-magic which means that with a significant amount of energy, one should be able to withstand anti-magic. Naruto has truthseeker orbs which is many times stronger and denser energy than the barrier asta was seen struggling to break through and the orbs themselves possess the ability to nullify all ninjustu similar to anti-magic so with the orbs Naruto should be able to counter anti-magic. So if they were to fight, it would turn out to be an endurance battle with Naruto countering Asta's anti-magic attaks using truthseeker orbs and Asta countering Naruto's attacks using his anti-magic. But in the end, Naruto will win because he has infinitely more chakra than Asta has anti-magic and he can keep generating more with ninetails so Asta will run out of anti-magic and lose.
@@fidelisitor8953 I wasn't even talking about mass to begin with I'm talking about gravitational force I'll say it again the amount of gravity needed to bend light on the length Dante did it is equivalent to that of a star and that was base Dante if we stack all the devil power multiplier his ap would relatively be solar system level
@@Primerival09 And once again I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about. To create gravity, you need mass and more mass equals more gravity so to create gravity on the scale you claim Dante did, you'll require a mass equal to that of a star compressed into a small ball. This ball will essentially become a black hole, one that is capable of devouring the entire earth and other nearby planets so you're absolutely wrong about Dante having star-level gravity. It's not even close. Not even on moon level. Moon level gravity is capable of causing entire oceans to rise and bulge out of the earth's surface and Dante didn't display gravity even close to such a scale.
No. That’s terrible logic if you want Asta to be able to affect Naruto’s attacks with his anti-magic then add verse equalization otherwise no he can’t. Using the logic that because Asta can negate magic and chakra is similar to magic to claim that Asta can negate chakra based attacks is dumb. They aren’t the same. That’s like saying because Haki and Chakra are used to accomplish some of the same things then characters like Boruto, Kawaki, Momoshiki, and Sasuke would be able to drain Haki. See how that’s that’s terrible logic?
Terrible speed scaling how is kid naruto ftl when he was struggling with raikage who was barely ls or itachi who was far stronger than kid naruto couldn't even dodge a single lighting and haku feat got debunked by sasuke getting speed blitzed by rock lee who speed of sound naruto verse have barely ftl feats since great ninja war
@@ToasterXDChakra is spiritual energy plus vital energy, that is, mana+ki. In the story of Naruto it is made clear that if one of these jutsu is missing or the person dies, in the case of the jutsu or forms, they will be eliminated. In this case, Naruto's mode will be completely turned off.
@@wuuhnnn The decapitating demon affects the soul bro and cuts whatever he wants, a single cut and it's k.o. lvl Arcanum: affectation and ignorance of a large part of physical and natural laws. Dark degree lvl: affectation, ignorance and destruction of some concepts and abstract elemental and spiritual affectation such as the soul. erasure of all spiritual energy related to the soul or emotions along with the impact of curses with metsuma.
dont get me wrong, asta is strong. i mean anti magic can be as far as anti haki chakra you get it. however even so, naruto has basically everything better. if he plays it right and doesnt get hit by the anti sword he will win for sure. if he does get hit he would still maybe win.
@@aztecgb7520 and Naruto surving Indra's Arrow and Ashura Kurama blast like it's nothing and still have a stamina and chakra(basically mana) to continue fighting even after Sasuke absorbs his chakra lol
@@saleeksmith4765yes they're completely different - here are some examples 1. Asta Anti magic doesn't work because naruto don't have magic and same can applied to naruto with this rasenshuriken since Asta don't have chakra cell. 2. Asta can still cut naruto with this zetten technique and naruto can still hurt him with rasengen. 3. When chakra run out completely, you are going to died while mana do not. These are some view examples of different power system.
When doing cross verse battles most people discuss equalizing the power systems if they have similar properties (ki for dbz and chakra for naruto) but to say that asta can negate chakra is a big stretch because anti magic is specific to magic, and trying to equalize magic to chakra is a bigggggg stretch since the powers are too different/specific
@@dangpfpcute8734naruto violates asta lmao, not even devil union in the manga can beat the middle state narutos, anti magic won't fo shit Aginst chakra and a rasengan to the face lol, plus naruto is way way faster
@@narutolikestoes9028You do realize Asta dodged light attacks in base right? That happened before time skip too and Naruto got impaled by a sword. No one who's honestly read or even watched Black Clover thinks this. The worst part is Asta not even in his prime either.
I think he actually can pull through, he has much better stamina than Naruto in Bayron Mode and is much faster, so he can't really be touched, and once BM runs dry, Naruto's fucked
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 Asta has better stamina than Naruto?! Asta is faster than Naruto??! You must be on crack. Who cares about bayron mode. Naruto in six paths mode with all nine tails powers was already on a god level and had infinitely more chakra and stamina than Asta could ever dream of and is faster. Ninetails chakra alone is tremendously more than Asta's entire anti-magic reserves and besides ninetails can always infuse more chakra using clones during a fight like he did in the final battle against Sasuke so how the hell will naruto run dry? Asta will be the first to run out of anti-magic and will lose the moment he does.
@@marcierex4547 Keep dreaming. Asta has nowhere near the stamina Naruto has and Naruto speed blitzes him. Only thing Asta has going for him is antimagic and even that is useless against the truthseeker orbs but Naruto has so much that he can use to easily one shot Asta. Asta should be compared to the likes of Deku from MHA and not to gods like Naruto. It's easily one sided. Naruto one shots Asta.
Saying Asta can't use his calculated speed, AP and arsenal of tools is like saying Naruto can't use KCM because it's not his chakra but that of Kurama's. That's why I believe there's no such thing as verse equalising as we are already equating their feats to the logic of our world. As such it's best to take them as they've been calculated and let them have access to their full range of abilities that they have access to through their own means and not something like SO6P which is something Naruto couldn't achieve without Hagaromo's chakra or the wizard king sword in the BC movie. To be clear, I'm saying what they can do without external help
Really nice video and factual scaling of these characters and I'm guessing so many people are surprised that black clover has mftl+ speed feats and dwarf star level characters as when it comes to scaling black clover is easily the most underrated series as people think that black clover characters are weak 😂 when it house one of most strongest characters in new gen shounen. I have seen people talk that deku beats asta🤣🤣
some top tiers can be scaled to uni+ ap with mftl+ speeds, like people who scale above the yami's inf glamour world feat such as asta, yuno, yami, lucius, etc. the people i jus named are also the only ones who could arguably have inaccessible or infinite speed.
Asta is much faster than Naruto . In chapter 35 Julius's chrono-statis spell traps eye of the midnight members and they were able to move .This is significant because it is stated that time doesn't move in the spell showing that they have inaccessible speed . Asta obviously has much higher speed than them making him much quicker than naruto
The funny thing is that high teirs in black clover were already at FTL+ speeds from the BOS and asta just surpassed them in speed like it was nothing I would say asta wins i think he has speed advantage over naruto and if we use Verse equalization he has higher chances to win Ah by the way I don't think SO6P Naruto would be able to do anything against Asta With 4 horns And if now ppl say BM Naruto slams i would say useless considering it is just a nerf it makes Naruto strength increase drastically but his speed does not get much amplifier as well as he can not use this other abilities And if we say naruto can use brayon mode to beat him it would be useless since Asta would have Anti-chakra which is different from normal chakra by verse equalisation While 5 horns Asta was breaking casually asa had a massive buff in speed And Even if we Naruto manged to blow a hole in asta body it is going to be useless because anti magic in latest chapters showed that it can re attach body parts and even heals them completely so i think asta wins imo EDIT: You heavily underrated asta speed and AP Speed: if you ask me he is 15 trillion times faster than light while naruto's most highball calculations in speed most likely makes in 7 billion times faster than light which is again a wank i think he is baseline FTL in speed Asta takes advantage in speed category. AP: And the next thing is hax And if we use verse equalization and say Chakra=mana then asta one shots asta AP is most likely is small planetry lvl which is enough to hurt someone like Naruto who was moon level in durability Simply means that if we also consider words equalization and chakra = Mana means if asta lands single blow it is literally game over for Naruto since chakra = life force Meaning Naruto entire chakra would be destroyed which would instantly kill him so this debate is much closer than you appear to seem And by the way naruto's AP is very much useless against asta If he can't catch up with him in Speed Asta also have casualty manipulation as well as limited death manipulation Even if you blow a hole within asta that wound get sealed up by anti magic you can even close wounds of people who got literally cutted in half was shown in the latest chapter were asta sealed the wounds black bulls in which many of their organs were blown up as well as got cutted in half lol and Anti magic sealed their wounds like it was nothing As well as asta has Casuality manipulation and force deflection if he uses black tornado Meaning he can easily erase naruto's arm or any ranged attacks from Naruto using casualty manipulation and the force can be easily dealt if he decides to deflect it into another direction along with casualty manipulation which will not only erase the attack out of existence but it will not give toll of force on asta body
This was a great video. You do not know how long I have looked and waited to see a Naruto vs Asta video. I do think the speed advantage would go to Asta though and the win cons would be 6/10 in Naruto favour due to his higher AP and Versatility. I would love to hear your opinion on Yuno vs Sasuke though I think that would be a sick fight.
Is NOBODY gonna mention the fact that Naruto uses chakra and NOT MAGIC so asta cant just cancel it out? There's literally been points in Naruto where magic has been used as well as science, technology, and ancient mythology its not just chakra. There are SIMILARITIES but chakra and magic are different not interchangeable. (Thats like saying homophones have the same meaning because the words sound alike even though they're spelled different and are 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT words) Not to mention the fact he mentioned up to a certain point with naruto and limited his abilities BUT LISTED ALL OF Astas. Like be realistic.
True But Even if we remove verse equalization asta still has the absolute advantage to kick back Naruto's attacks Since the official translation for asta's energy is ANTI-ENERGY not anti-magic
@@Primerival09 that's a semantics argument just because the "original translation" uses a different word doesn't mean the meaning is different. There's a lot of words that have a specific meaning in a certain language/culture that aren't translatable. The same rule applies with both anime and manga he's not on no meliodas full counter shxt he just repells magical energy/powers because he can't use it himself
@@xrayeblaquediamonds4440 Asta has already negated attacks other than Magic in his verse in the land of the sun where they use a different system. So him being Anti Energy is very true. Asta has negated: Mana Negative Mana Yojutsu Purified Devil Power (It is unknown if this is using mana or something else)
@@Foxlet116anti energy for his verse. Dosen't mean he is anti to any energy out of his own verse he isn't anti nen anti chakra anti haki anti ki(db) etc.
One Universal/4D argument that can be made for Naruto revolves around the newest Boruto chapter in which Kawaki chills in his timeless dimension where Naruto is trapped in. It leaves the question whether Isshiki was able to do similar things [as we know (Baryon Mode) Naruto surpassed him] or whether timeskip Kawaki has just mastered Isshiki’s abilities and simply became the strongest besides Shibai (and Daemon) now
@@minicooper1293 also Baryon Mode didn't surpass Isshiki. Isshiki was already at deaths door so he wasn't at full power and if he wasn't at deaths door he would have killed everyone
@@dinomoney2142it did surpass isshiki. He didn't beat isshiki because of his own time limit. Just because isshiki said the punches aren't much of a problem dosen't mean he isn't getting damaged. He essentially means the punches are doing damage but the life decrease is more important.
@9:30 imo I do think orochimaru is stronger than jiraiya but of course he would not have tried his hardest to stop/kill Naruto so I don't think that the whole him almost dying to the four tails thing is that huge of a deal although I do think it's still somewhat relevant but of course pervy sage was holding back so I still take it with a grain of salt. Love the video and the topic, you guys rock
@@darkidthedemonthey didn’t even use later feats from Naruto, only like Shippuden feats mainly and he gets far stronger than that just in base in Boruto
@@darkidthedemon lol i thought he was talking about adult naruto aswell wtf but naruto wins anyway and people think base asta soloes naruto verse black clover fans hating on naruto so asta can win
Lucifero has 3 statements(Nacht, Narrator, and Tabata/Data book) and a feat from the manga. Tabata/Data book Statments for: The pair fought in spade country, defeating the king who was about to destroy/ruin/wreck the world, gaining accomplishment as a magic. Feats: Lucifero fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth(Dark magic + World Tree Magic) to aid in his manifestation. The Tree of Qliphoth is a channel between both worlds that branches throughout the levels of the underworld. The Tree of Qliphoth scales to the size of the underworld or greater. Which in turn would scale to the size of the BC earth low balled or BC Universe. This would even make would even Worm Lucifero and 50% Lucifero (Planetary-Universal+) since he fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth. (TDU Asta>) Lucius gain 100% Lucifero by eating both of his hearts then spent 15month raiding the underworld getting stronger. Later on PDU Asta(PDU>PDU Asta>Base Lucius>>>Worm and 50-100% Lucifero) Land of The Rising Sun arc: Later on Asta began his training to master Zetten an advance version of Ki were the user can channel all of there yoryoku/magic thoughout there body and release it all at once or at a specific output increase their power 20-100x. Day 1: Asta fights base Ichika for the first time and Asta says Devil union would be useless against her putting her above current Base Lucius and Lucifero that we seen fight Asta. (Base Ichika>>>Asta Forms) Day 2-3: Asta trains with The Ryuzen (Ryuzen>Asta) Day 4: PDU Asta was equal to Black Musha Ichika form but losses in zetten exchange. After that battle trains Asta against the strongest member of the Ryuzen 7 "Mushouga". (Mushouga>Ryuzen>=Asta) After his training he Mastered Zetten that was said to take decades to learn. Asta can now see attacks attacks before they come and make his attack more powerful and precise then ever. He also defeated 2 Paladins(Created by Lucius using soul magic) one being Sister Lily who surpassed 100% beelzebub putting her and the other paladins on or above Planetary+. (Lucius>Mastered Zetten Asta>Mushouga>Paladins>=Ryuzen>Sacred Dragon>Lucifero) Asta would scale to Large Planet-Universal+ lvl MFTL+ to Infinite Speeds. 3 Uni+ Feats: Dorothy Glamour world: being stated to be Infinite in size and able to spawn real moon and stars. Yami destroyed it nearly instantly with Dimension slash(HAX) and surpasses that with Death thrust(A.P). Zenon: he created a Subspace/hyperspace with spatial magic and yuno destroyed 4 dimensional space.(Uni+) Lucifero: fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth which is a channel between both worlds that branches throughout the levels of the underworld and the underworld scale to (Planetary-Universal+) Asta> Anti Magic is type of Arcane Stage Magic. Arcane Stage Magic can effect physical/Invisible/Intangible concepts while also being above all effects and ignore laws of physics stated by Gaja and Lolopechika. Asta slams black clover scaling is getting extremely wild in the manga, yuno with his neverland where time doesn't flow, a direct counter to time magic+magic manipulation, asta somehow moving in the chronostatsis. what's more is that we haven't seen round 2 of lucius vs asta, we haven't seen how strong asta actually is now that he has practically mastered zetten, the fight should be coming soon. PDU Asta=Base Lucius Lucius put everyone in his chrono stasis and Asta could only react AFTER he realized he was in Chrono Stasis Base Lucius>Base Asta Meaning Base Asta can't negate it, and since he transformed after getting trapped, that would mean he moved in stopped time. If it was just Asta's innate Anti-Magic that could negate it regardless of strength/AP, Asta wouldn't have been trapped by Julius in the Royal Knights Selection Arc 🔥🔥🔥Lucius stopped Linear Time itself, and Asta was able to move in his Chrono Stasis, granting him Immeasurable Speed, not Inaccessible
Bruh,moving in time stop or just any time stop ability dosen't grant one ant tier of speed. That's specifically stated in the vs wiki speed tiers. And kawaki moves in stopped time too. It dosen't scale to speed.
asta in base would be large planetary since he one-shot paladin damnatio in base form and paladin damnatio> paladin sister lily> 100% beelzebub. making paladin damnatio large planetary.
Naruto slams Statement wise hes high solar system level Kaguta was shown to be star level and toneri was stated to be stronger than kaguya and naruto low diffed toneri without even using spsm and baryon mode is even stronger
You black clover fans head getting a little too big it’s completely one sided I don’t wanna hear that bs about Dorothy’s dimension because she doesn’t scales to it nor does Yami it was purely hax their moon level high ball jerking him and FTL
Bro I thought the Naruto scaling was the biggest problem in this video asta being dwarf star level is crazy because somebody can make a dream with their magic they're solar system level no it's a dream it's basically a genjutsu because infinite tsukuyomi can make a whole universe does that make it Universal no.
Mana and Chakra are EXTREMELY similar. Nobody can reasonably deny that. If we apply universe equalization- WHICH WE SHOULD- this fight would straight up become impossible for Naruto to win. Even without any of Asta’s swords.
No they aren't,they are extremely different. Chakra is more a spiritual energy+physical energy,a mix of like ki from dragon ball and regular magic from verses like bc and ft. And again nature chakra,so6p chakra are different things. Even if you argue that anti magic negated chakra,that dosen't mean that it negates sage chakra or so6p chakra
@@somanchipranav1964 chakra = Ki frm black clover, not db, asta can use zetten, which is letting out a large amount of ki (life force energy or the way you defined it ) all at once
Just about all of asta’s abilities are win cons for him in this fight. Even assuming that Naruto is faster (I’d argue that asta is faster, but even if not at least relative) asta just has the abilities to make this fight his. Demon destroyer negs all abilities Naruto has outside taijutsu (assuming equalization), if he doesn’t have it (idk y not but oh well) any and all projectiles would be rendered useless by dweller or slayer cuz he could absorb and return with dweller and reflect with slayer, both at an increased power. Finally slasher is an infinity slash. It all just comes down to if he can get a clean cut with that sword, but just about any of Naruto’s attack wouldn’t work on him. Even using the scaling that asta has to be relative to the power of the attack, so much of Naruto’s abilities are more hax than powers. Plus true devil union kinda just makes the battle unfair.
People don’t understand that Naruto is the literal product of a god and he is a Demi god himself even without kurama he is a Demi god if unmatched the show you’d know this
the thing is while naruto reached his peak and has his time ended already , asta is about to reach his peak soo this current battle would't really be measurable as the power ups for asta could be getting a new type of magic , being able to use anti-magic with 0 limits , and the possibilities are immeasurable
you forgot that asta abilities to cancel or negate magic is no different from characters with the Rinnegan who can absorb or negate justu, and naruto has tons of experience fighting characters like that even like kaguya, momoshiki and isshiki who are otsutsuki that can absorb, erase, deflect and negate every from of ninjustu. Naruto doesn't need to resort to justu to beat asta. A simple kcm 2 with hand to hand combat is enough to beat asta. And that's if verse equalization will eveen work in the first place cause asta powers cancels out magic or mana related powers and chakra is not mana at all
okay the light speed scaling is kinda wildy inaccurate to how it would realistically be lol like 100,000k faster than the speed of light, wtf does that even mean lol. The closer you get to the speed of light the astronomically faster you become than the previous speed. So 0.1 the speed of light is not gonna be half of 0.2 and so on. Regardless just being slightly faster than the speed of light will be enough to speed blitz anyone at speed of light, the 100,000k wank is excessive and not at all accurate to how that stuff works lol
Just sayin naruto slams asta bad in base in every category like deadass if you wanna talk speed then he dodges raikage in kcm1 who was lightspeed now put sage mode with that which sage mode is a 10x multiplier now kcm2 is not a known multiplier but you know he outscales kcm 1 in speed by a lot now sage of six path mode outscales everything I just said in speed right now sasuke has stated in the novel that he has outscales kaguya currently so naruto is said to be sasukes equal so him struggling with kaguya in speed and to now him going toe to toe with people like fused momoshiki that created a parallel universe in base while having only 50% chakara just tells you his speed is definitely far bigger then asta to the point where to the point where asta can’t even think before getting vaporized by a rasengan also sasuke in base could perceive light speed in base and when he activated sharingan speed of light felt slow to him and naruto is equal to sasuke so the same applies also this was kid sasuke 💀 so to sum it up I think naruto is 10000x mftl+ lowballed because we literally know all the things that leads him here but now highballed is infinite speed which you can get to without loopholes to naruto neg diffs black clover in base sorry but I don’t make the scalings kishimoto does 😅
I think with verse equalisation asta could potentially win because having magic being chakra and chakra being magic asta can cancel literally anything naruto would throw at him. And yes i know about the numbers advantage naruto would have but with astas ki he can just read any attack that comes in his direction
I think Asta can win 1 he haves that 100x power up 2 I thinks he faster and anti magic can just stop any thing he can do + mana zone so in the end I think Asta high difs
Bro said Naruto has more win conditions and did not say any of them. Then after broku scale Asta speed which is around the billions and Naruto is 10 million, then bro say well I think Naruto is faster. And what make even wrost is Asta universal argument is better, then Naruto and what make even wrost is that he was mainly just talking about base Asta broku didn’t even mention devil union or true devil union
@@narutolikestoes9028 cope naruto highball has 1.5 mil times the speed of light asta lowballed has at least 5 million at highest end he has quadrillions so no Naruto gets victimized clown
ngl, I actually thought Asta had a shot due to his anti-magic possibly weakening Naruto's attacks, but oh well😅. Great video either way👍. Although I'm not sure if you're too big on requests, do you think you can do a Deku vs Gon debate, as these are two of my favourite series and protagonists (also green hair). I just think it would be a fun matchup😋
@@sir_mystic4127it's pretty fucking obviou stop d riding Naruto and getting mad because someone said something I'm getting really tried of bitc$ Naruto fans sthu 😐
@nicholasaugello2534 yea because he allowed it I mean cmon literally when they reanimated Haku and Zabuza was literally fighting a Even more Stronger version of Kakashi who would stomp 1 cloak kid Naruto
Yes of course. Haku attacks was so fast that Sasuke could only barely move after seeing it with Sharingan. And Haku's between his mirrors was faster than Kurama amped Naruto could perceive. Also , Naruto had Kurama Chakra leaking out like crazy and it even took form of nine tails Head. And Haku's mirrors withstood such Chakra surge. Haku only lost because He was holding back. And because Naruto actually Caught his hand so he can't escape. If she managed to get back into her mirrors , Naruto would no win
Ngl I feel like scaling to Kaguya who can destroy stuff in her infinite realms is disingenuous, because that would mean that Hashirama (beat the 9 tails who even at half power can beat 5 tailed beasts) at least has a fraction of the power required to destroy an infinite space. Same thing for Dorothy as well.
The downplay on Asta needs to stop man. Have you watched Broku’s vids? You’ll learn alot about actually how strong Asta is… he’s more comparable to Ichigo and Natsu then he is to Naruto.
@@Prideium9001as much as I don't like Black Clover let me help you out it's safe to say that asta from could defeat Naruto again I don't need scaling or calculations I use my head as an adult so who cares
@@cjcj4861 I agree that Naruto is also downplayed to oblivion by One Piece and Mha fans tho, I’ve seen arguments about Deku having a better battle IQ and more hax meaning he’ll win
So you are just Ignoring the novel actually.. Bc if check Novel eps 65 Rescues Naruto: Momoshiki dimensions is stated to be parallel Universes. And it's just One sided .
@@JottoHearthStone yes novel is cannon. Also Why I said kaguya is uni it's bc she was gonna erase both time space and Even The Likes of Zetsu stated not only him but Kakashi Obito also stats ! In the manga.. also In the anime Naruto stats her dim is known as parallel dimensions and parallel dimensions= Parallel Universe/Alternate Universe/alternate Reality.. not only that in the manga Kakashi also stats as alternative dim And alternate Dim= Parallel Dim/Uni . Also Asta Uni argument it's not really valid ! Also if u think he is uni than Lmao he solos most of the verses and Asta >>>>>ICHGO unless you bring Bleach 5d scalling 😂😂😂Again this is absurd bc he only scale to Gremmy who summon not created an outer space.
@@amaterstu8000 Ok I would say uni asta is about as valid as uni naruto, there is a reason they are both known about but not frequently used since they contradict a lot of other things. The naurto uni scaling mostly comes from momoshiki, but even then it doesn't hold up well since he thought the 9-tails was a substancial amount of chakra and the 9-tails has many many statements limiting it to planetary. There's also no proof that any of the other ones are universe in size (a parallel space could be any size) The Uni asta comes from glamour world scaling largely but also from hyperspace statements for 4d power, these are not often used for debate because of the same things that the uni naruto scaling has, beit they are inconsistent with later feats.
@@JottoHearthStone valid as Naruto?? Okay fine first of all I haven't done reading the bc manga yet ! Also kaguya get Lowballing it's only bc of db fans ! Bck than there were no bleach no Opm it's was Kaguya with the uni Scalling since than she got lot of Debunk for his dim size but not really bc those Dimensions have day night cycles stars moon and Sun also in the OVA we can see Celestial bodies And if u check out NUNS4 we can see countless stars . And it's btw.. Lmao the uni Scalling doesn't come form Momoshiki bck than in Shippuden Kaguya was already Uni as Zetsu stated she was gonna erase all time space ! Also she created those Dimensions bc even in the databook it's says weaving whcuh means she created it. And base Momo it's alredy Uni as we can see that his dim holds stars with celestial bodies and red shift nebula . Also if u own Novel / or u can check /buy so in the novel eps 64 : NARUTO RESCUE: it's stated that Momoshiki dim was a parallel universe.. also in other scans Susuke stated that he was Draining chakra from that of beyond parallel universe! Also if we talk about isshiki we saw what his 10% would just solo All of them >>> .
@@JottoHearthStone what feats Naruto doesn't have to support the uni Scalling?? Lmao just Look at the blech fandom for example! Anything above Town level it's just an outlier! Also the series haven't even perform Country to contintent feats The best feat was just slicing a hill! Where as we cann what Other char from Naruto can do like Ten tails just casually blasting Continent level... Also Nine tails doesn't have many statment in the databook it's just stated as half of nine tails could turn Ash to world's.. and if u read manga it's says that 2nd version of ten tails is compared to the small Planet. Also momo wasn't Came for nine tails chakra I'd even know what are u talking about now ! He came to harvest what kaguya coun't do . Also what proff are you talking about relating to Size ?? And i am very sorry but I hate to break down that there isn't any thing stated As space !! In the context......
Naruto solos black cover its not even close. Even during these last few chapters of black clover I dont see Asta beating Naruto. Maybe he can beat Naruto in base form (no kurama no six paths) by the end
@@Igotnoissuesnot true, you seem to forget that asta abilities to cancel or negate magic is no different from characters with the Rinnegan who can absorb or negate justu, and naruto has tons of experience fighting characters like that even like kaguya, momoshiki and isshiki who are otsutsuki that can absorb, erase, deflect and negate every from of ninjustu. Naruto doesn't need to resort to justu to beat asta. A simple kcm 2 with hand to hand combat is enough to beat asta. And that's if verse equalization works in the first place cause asta powers cancels out magic or mana and chakra is not mana at all
@@olagokeemmanuel9625Naruto does need his jutsus to fight asta as a hand to sword fight with asta would end up In Naruto’s massacre as asta is way way way faster than Naruto so if Naruto chose to throw hands he’ll absolutely gets blitz. If he used kcm 2 against asta he’ll get blitz asta is fast enough to blitz someone like Conrad who can dodge Julius’s time magic
@@Oneshotmaster256 entering his modes like kcm or so6p is totally different from using justu. We have seen him boxing with momoshiki without even using a single justu and the justu that was to defeat him was used by boruto. Naruto has fought sword users before, heck even his rival(sasuke) is a sword user so saying because asta uses swords puts naruto at a disadvantage is not true. This battle is not even close. Giving the benefit of doubt that asta could even cancel chakra which is still impossible as both verse energy are totally different, there is no way asta can cancel naruto's overwhelming attack. Kaguya who was reborn through madara's body had madara's chakra, the ten tails(which was already stated to planet worthy of chakra both in the manga and anime which makes ten tail jinchuriki planetary at minimum) and still extracted chakra from the shinobi in the infinite tsukiyomi and both naruto and sasuke confirmed that the chakra is more than madara who had that time already had a planet worth of chakra. Now this kaguya will still say that naruto who was in so6p had just as much chakra as her and she treated naruto more dangerous than sasuke because he had just as much chakra as her and how she wanted to absorb his chakra before killing him. Except if you are telling me asta can negate a planet to multiplanetery worty of chakra then I see no way asta can win. Naruto so6p gives him unparalleled sensory abilities as well as an advanced version of precognition which makes him able to sense attacks before it is even made. At the end of the war arc, naruto is able to create clones more durable that it takes killing hits to dispel them like when sasuke used the almighty pull and the flame control of amaterasu as well as using chidori to stab through the chest of the clones just to dispel them, each clones being able to even use the kurama avatar cloak. In terms of stamina, naruto far outclassed asta as well as in combat experience, regeneration, durability seeing as naruto has tank his own chakra explosion that put a hole in the moon and he took that in base. Asta anti-magic can not help him much here seeing as even with that anti magic he is far outclassed in stats alone not to talk of abilities. Asta strongest form still works on time limit too which already put him in a disadvantage.
Great video. One issue i have always had is scaling with glamor world and kaguya dimensions. Yes they have arguably universal feats within those alternate worlds, however they clearly dont outside of those dimensions. This is obviously because they have power that directly gives them control of those alternate worlds. We would never say a JJK character with a sure hit in their domain can also sure hit outside of the domain. Why? Because the power is one that can only be used in the domain and clearly hasnt been demonstrated outside of it. I would apply the same logic to kaguyas dimensions and glamor world. They have the ability to destroy them sure, but clearly they dont have the same degree of control over the real world or they would have utilized it.
From what I learned in this video is Asta would be so physically strong I don’t think Naruto’s attacks would do much damage and Asta affected someone who teleported Naruto is literally doomed against Asta
@@somanchipranav1964 ok pal clearly you weren’t watching the same video because if Naruto had to fight Asta without chakra there’s no way he beats Asta
@@SoulLokix-nm4mo he wouldn't fight him without chakra. Cuz anti magic(even if you use the anti energy statement)≠anti chakra. And Naruto without chakra dies,verse equalisation is not possible. Anti energy is only anti to energy from bc verse like ki,yojutsu,magic and not chakra.
@@somanchipranav1964 ki is very similar to chakra ttp you can say they're almost the same. both are life force energy and asta can let out a large amount of ki all at once (zetten, which could also be a 20x, 40x, 60x or a 100x multiplier.)
With what I've see, I think if naruto understands how asta fights and is careful while doing so, then he wins. But if not then asta might have the upper hand
@@somanchipranav1964 Mana has nature energy too lol. You'd have to name a form of energy that chakra has and mana doesn't to prove it can't be negated.
The biggest problem with this video is that your scaling child Naruto to lightspeed by the fact that Haku can move at the speed of light with her technique Haku by the way who has no diseases or anything is just going easy on the literal children we know this because later on in Shippuden Haku and Zabuza are re-animated and yet they're able to go against people like Rock Lee and Kakashi who at this point should be much stronger and also the reanimation Jutsu makes people weaker so they should be weaker than before and are able to compete with stronger people that doesn't make sense so yeah child Naruto is nowhere near light-speed he does still wash.
Naruto fans sometimes don't check their own databooks, pre shippuden databooks literally says a bullet would be too much for the verse so how is naruto ftl😂? It's safe to say naruto had ftl reaction speed.
I would say that asta is low planetary and Naruto is mid high HOWEVER I have watched all of Naruto and all of black clover and read manga and I have to say this it will be really close with Verse equalization cus of anti magic.(also yuno vs sasuke, yuno mid diffs yunos star form (the green form lol) is basically so6p Naruto level also the only reason that asta vs yuno is close is cus if hax and strength)
@@hassanhassan-os5oq no he didnt 😭😭😭 naruto broke the mirrors with his chakra and haku tried to attack naruto out of the mirror only when traveling between mirrors is haku lightspeed and he was traveling from mirror to the ground to attack naruto not to another mirror so
@@veautifulvensei3613he did, Haku was traveling inside his mirrors and Naruto catched him meaning that Naruto would scale to his speed so Light speed to FTL, so you just debunked ur self, also when Haku travels to the ground using the mirror he’s still Light speed as it was stated multiple times that as long as he travels using the mirrors themselves he’s light speed, which he did when Naruto catched him
Honestly asta has 1 second before he gets torn to shreds by a rasenshuriken something that literally cuts cells and no anti magic is stopping it if naruto is just massively faster than him or can just fake him out with a clone or substitution jutsu
It’s honestly crazy how people who don’t know how to power scale and also haven’t even read both series act as if they have a single clue about what their talking about
nice scaling i take nartuo takes it rn being large star with him almost scratching solar system with the momoand isshiki dimension scaling with asta being large planetary with the julius scaling he could dwarf or large star at eos if do some crazy stuff
Creating or destroying a dimensions =/= destroying a universe. Nothing in Naruto states that her dimension is universal in size, and people will bring up parallel universes and shit like that, but once again, you can’t assume the size of a dimension unless it is stated by the author itself. Kaguya’s dimension is simply just a pocket dimension. People got mixed up with it thinking it was a spacetime, but it was a mistranslation and Viz Media translated it to the real thing, which is just a dimension.
Idk if I could agree with the same statement of mana and chakra being the same when they are different source of energy in asta world mana is all around them and technically they absorb mana from the outside source to some extent to increase there own mana while chakra is a combination of 2 embody sources of power mental and spiritual energy which isn't mana rather it's more similar to Dragonball ki energy which Dragonball made a clear distinction in ki and magic so I know for sure asta anti magic power wouldn't work on chakra
Naruto is multi planet level, arguably solar level pre Baryon mode. Baryon mode made him go from completely inferior and getting blitzed, to 100% superior and curb stomping the most powerful Otsutsuki outside of their god. Meaning Baryon mode Naruto is likely multi solar level. Possibly solar cluster level. Still not on the level of some other characters from other verses. But still insane.
Can you do one of these matchups? 1. Sternritter E vs Konan (spiritual bombs vs paper bombs) 2. Sternritter F vs Hantengu (fear vs fear, anger, pleasure, sorrow, joy, hatred) 3. Sternritter J vs Jack (jail vs slash Magic) 4. Sternritter P vs Sakura (both pink girl with power strength) 5. Sternritter S vs All Might (wwe superstar vs no.1 superhero) 6. Sternritter T vs Fana (thunder vs fire magic) 7. Sternritter V vs Zagred (think vs speak)
1. Bambietta would violate Konan, mismatch. 2. Literally anyone solos Demon Slayer. 3. Dunno 4. Meninas would rock Sakura's shit, she's too fast and too strong. 5. Mask solos the verse 6. Dunno 7. Gremmy might job it.
@@Kyuubey0406Nah we were talking about TUI goku from the manga vs GER, they said no matter what goku does he resets to zero which I completely disagree with.
@@_lazarus_7378 While they are right, theres no physical way for giorno to do any damage to goku making the fight a complete stalemate,which is the answer you will get in most videos youll watch about that matchup
Damn, not gonna lie but I don't read Black Clover and assumed that the characters had pretty weak scaling like around MHA level, but I didn't know Asta was like that, lol.
@@saleeksmith4765Kaguya Dimension feat being Infinite. So both Naruto and Asta have similar AP. The Natural Spirits however scale far above her and her dreamworld shouldn't even be taken seriously as a scaling feat.
@@saleeksmith4765 cause it would directly go against how strong the four elemental spirits are. Seeing as how the maximum power of one can only effect at most a continent. The paradox of using Dorothy's dream world is that feats performed by much stronger characters are shown to have not nearly as much AP or destructive power.
@@saleeksmith4765 all of them should be equal. We saw the water spirits effect a whole country. The spirits usually are considered to be the greatest sources of Mana. Dorothy does not have AP equivalent to her Dreamworld as she wasn't even able to beat Yami in it and he cut through that shit. Her dream world seems to be y'know, a hax based separate dimension then just a "I have Uni+ AP" for some reason. Cause if so Dorothy scales past all of the dark triad and above without issue if their main weakness is Saint Stage.
i dont think yall know what light speed is if you move at the speed of light you can rotate the planet in 2 seconds, if naruto was 160x the speed of light this means he can rotate the planet in 12m/s or 0.012 seconds and considering naruto's planet is smaller than ours this means he can rotate it in less, witch means bro can pretty much move instantly anywhere but that wasnt the case in boruto anime when he was chasing the train robber, it took him a second or more to reach the end of the train he might have not been going full speed but either way, the google search says naruto 6 paths sage mode clock is a couple times the speed of light meaning its from 4-8x the speed of light
you could just say its because there are different types of speed, or because naruto or asta simply doesnt want to, attack, travel, reaction, perception are all different types
@@maniacgreen8609 that's generally where people think he is. But as you saw toaster explain he is way stronger. Like even regularly,you have hagoromo and hamura post kaguya fight which supposed continued for months atleast according to the anime fatigued create the moon and send it into orbit.(a small planetary to planatary feat) Or you have madara spreading shinju across the planet in seconds which is a large planatary feat. Or you have madara's meteors in so6p who's debris are bigger than mountain ranges(the manga panel gives abit more perspective on this) Or again the light novel version of the last movie where it is stated that the tenseigan(the big blue orb that hinata and Naruto destroy)can withstand the destruction of the planet easily and survive but Naruto and hinata destroy it. Or toneri himself saying several times that he can destroy the planet, especially after he absorbs sun's chakra at the end of the movie who kcm2 Naruto(full kurama) should scale over.
the title is Naruto vs Asta isn't close . in vid explanation it is indeed close . everyone in the comment has a pikachu suprised meme . (i know it for the algorithm and the clicks and it is a beast of a vid also great thumbnail keep at it bro and a nice collab ).
Sound attacks in pt 1 of naruto and pt 2.are still affecting charecters that should be light speed accordingly? Also lightning attacks are effective throughout the entire series? The lifht fang from madara is so fast it takes all narutos effort to dodge it at the end of the war in kcm 2 sage mode with the ying yang buff? So is the light somehow faster than light?
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The real question is why Asta’s rizz vs Naruto’s rizz is one-sided 🫵
Asta's Rizz >>>> NARUTO'S Rizz
My fav Mc is Naruto Btw
@lex7454 doesn't matter if your favorite Mc is naruto, Asta Rizzoli stomps
@@lex7454speaking facts
who tf winning that 💀💀
@@ShroobiAsta he rizzed up two royals in 1 day
I wonder how powerful end of story Asta will be cuz Asta is in the final arc of his run and can only become more powerful while Naruto peaked at Baryon mode and lost Kurama.
Naruto Baryon mode is not your pinnacle! not that it changes anything, because Asta would still step on Naruto anyway.
Naruto Baryon mode is not your pinnacle! not that it changes anything, because Asta would still step on Naruto anyway.
@@saleeksmith4765both are universal scaling if you include the time-space statement and infinite world statment so idk how one is better then the other
@@saleeksmith4765 being infinite would make it universal nothing else same with how the statment of space-time would make kaguya's dimension's universal
Peaked at a form which is way stronger and faster than asta lmao
As a neutral person, I would say that Naruto is stronger, but with the end of the Black Clover manga, it is possible that Asta will reach the same level
Naruto top tiers fuck the black clover verse
Anime Asta is above Naruto
@@Provixity naw, naruto high tiers > wipe verse
I love both but current asta neg diffs. He blitzes
@@GalacticTheOne You can't even scale them to Galaxy
Blud really thought he could gaslight people into thinking Asta has the slightest chance 🤦🤦
Lol
Right like I was about to say... That's bait, cuz this is one-sided. Naruto can make casually, without Kurama at all, 1000 times his one self. All of relativity in skill, speed, power, all dat; just split in chakra reserves. Of which he has a TREMENDOUS amount. He can make 5000 casually by the Six Paths point. 1/5000th of that, is still the most daunting thing Asta would know yet. 😅
Asta mid diffs Naruto
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naruto solos verse no asta might even be weaker than luffy
people forget but the demon destroyer is actually passive as it was shown the same day asta got it to come out of the book on its own and the second time was when asta time got stopped by lucious and the first sword to come out was demon destroyer casuing for him to move out of it and cancel the time stop spell.
W naruto scailing and props to broku on the BLACK CLOVER side of things, also its one sided onb
she don’t scale to that dimension and yami doesn’t scales to her dimension either
@@saleeksmith4765 elaborate.
funny thing yea your right but everythin she makes in the dimension is scalin to her as their real objects@@saleeksmith4765
@saleeksmith4765 except that doesn't make much sense given the Four great elementals only scale to at best Multi continental.
Also same thing could apply to Obito in this case. It's obvious a hax based ability like her Dreamworld would scale to her having Uni ap.
@@saleeksmith4765 he didn’t use isshiki as well
what kinda bs scaling did i just listen to…
For naruto's speed isn't Raikage stated to be able to peak over light speed with his Lightning Cloak? so kid naruto could speed blitz the Raikage by the chunin exams?
It’s that cheesy light speed haku feet some people keep using, it makes NO SENSE, but some still do.
@@JinxeBlaq oh alright
@@Low435 Yea, it completely messes up the speed scaling, so earlier Naruto characters are much faster than they should be.
No that’s not exactly true raikage wasn’t exactly stated to be light speed it was his technique the lighting cloak which has stated to be light speed anybody who isn’t light speed but knows this technique becomes automatically becomes light speed but if someone is already or above light speed the lighting cloak just adds onto his speed
@@arishzahid-p2e now your just making stuff up as he’s the only one who uses the trchnique
And people think Luffy beats Naruto and Asta
Those are just delusional OP fans that try high ball the ever living sh*t out of luffy. There are generally fans who believe he is star level which is insane considering no one in One piece has even shown planetary feats
@@raven717 the star probably comes from op verse being theorized to be as big as a star or a dwarf star due to multiple statements like Marco saying you can count till 20 or 30 billion islands and still not complete all of the map or someone along those lines and we know countries as big as our continents exists in op verse like alabasta. So if we take stuff at face value Whitebeard being able to destroy the world would imply the star level feat and many characters have frown stronger than Whitebeard.
@@editimpact66the star lvl comes from people who say that blackbeard used a black hole or that the black hole attack from the df has infinite gravity💀🗿
@@MuhaSkythere’s ppl who argue that but the Op planet scaling and WB feats is more used and credible
@@doofusb8 also ture, they sey that dressrosa is low moon 🗿💀
In the movie we see that asta's anti magic can't just negate anything. Its shown that simply being so much stronger can just overpower anti magic several times. On top of the fact that asta's only realistically Continental+ at max and to get him past Ftl+ u have to use ridiculous amps and multipliers. Which u can literally do for any character including naruto. Realistically naruto has too much hax and raw power to the point asta doesn't stand a choice
asta slams naruto sorry
@@QT5567asta still get hurt by people with magic it’s not like because he has anti magic no one can hurt him with magic
Wrong asta scales to large planet and it can be argued to universal level but thats pushing it, and speed base asta is 95x speed at min and other characters using that base asta combat speed can be calculated to 38000x lsp and since then has become much faster and then got another 20 to 100 times multiplier and he can be argued to unmeasurable speed as he moved in a void of zero time but cause that was magic it is pushing it
Naruto has higher AP
Asta has the speed advantage
Chakra=Mana needs to be explained more, if it actually is true that they are the same Asta takes it but if not Asta isn't getting through him
i'm rooting for Asta so i'll like if Broku can elaborate the similarities between mana and chakra
You can steinixos channel on why all anime power system are not the same
Their both energies that empower attacks and can be used to create special techniques. They come from people and can run out leading to exhaustion
Its not something to argue about, its literally just a prefight condition you set. Its called "verse equalization" and you specify it, and if its not specified then you take "not the same power" as a default.
idk why people make this comparison chakra is the fusion physical and mental energy also the way they use jutsu and magic are different the lore is different and the requirements are different i really don't like verse equalization it just dumbs down power systems just because both do some flashy attacks doesn't mean its the same
@@chineduajulu859 their lore is different the way they use them is different most anime have the energy power system but have different things with them just because they look the same or are elemental doesn't mean there the same not trying to be a mean guy i just don't like when people dumb down anime power systems to fit their narrative
If we're talking about aste before the spade arc then naruto utterly stomps
But if it's after and further
Then it's a different story
Asta at the very beginning of the spade arc ia power enough to withstand Dante's gravity 800 over
The same gravity thdt was powerful enough to bend light
The amount of gravity required to bend light is equivalent to that of a star now Dante amplifying this gravitational force with 80% devil energy which is literally over 800 over and asta and Yami wwre still able to withstand it
Even if we remove verse equalization aats still has the advantage
Since the actual name for his energy in the databook is known as ANTI-ENERGY
Which automatically puts him about almost all kinds of energy
Nice collaboration tho
I understand broku had to low-ball asta th same way you did to naruto
So it's a win win
But still think asts is the clear winner in this battle
Anti-energy being anti every power system is a no limits fallacy.
Chakra or ki(dbz) or nen or basically any other system being effected by anti magic is just not how it goes as just because they are types of energy dosen't mean anti magic works as these energies are seperate compared to any energy that bc verse has.
And again so6p chakra and sage chakra are also different from regular chakra.
@@somanchipranav1964
Well asta has actually negated different energy types
Like Mana
Negative energy (classified as negative Mana)
Devil power
And curse energy
And the true potentials of anti-energy is yes to be discovered
You are terribly wrong. Any amount of mass is capable of warping space-time causing light to look bent or warped. The earth's gravity "bends" light onto the surface of the moon during a total lunar eclipse causing a reddish hue typically termed as a blood moon and gravitational lensing is used to discover new planets.
At best, I would say the amount of mass dante created is equivalent to that of a mountain (which is still massive) but not to a BLOODY STAR. If the amount of mass dante created was on a star level, the gravity would rip apart the entire earth, alongsides the moon, mars and even jupiter as well within a fraction of a second.
For your second point, anti-magic isn't invincible as you think and we've seen evidence in the black clover movie. Asta was clearly struggling to break through a magical barrier created by the wizard kings even using his anti-magic which means that with a significant amount of energy, one should be able to withstand anti-magic. Naruto has truthseeker orbs which is many times stronger and denser energy than the barrier asta was seen struggling to break through and the orbs themselves possess the ability to nullify all ninjustu similar to anti-magic so with the orbs Naruto should be able to counter anti-magic.
So if they were to fight, it would turn out to be an endurance battle with Naruto countering Asta's anti-magic attaks using truthseeker orbs and Asta countering Naruto's attacks using his anti-magic. But in the end, Naruto will win because he has infinitely more chakra than Asta has anti-magic and he can keep generating more with ninetails so Asta will run out of anti-magic and lose.
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I wasn't even talking about mass to begin with
I'm talking about gravitational force
I'll say it again the amount of gravity needed to bend light on the length Dante did it is equivalent to that of a star and that was base Dante if we stack all the devil power multiplier his ap would relatively be solar system level
@@Primerival09 And once again I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about. To create gravity, you need mass and more mass equals more gravity so to create gravity on the scale you claim Dante did, you'll require a mass equal to that of a star compressed into a small ball. This ball will essentially become a black hole, one that is capable of devouring the entire earth and other nearby planets so you're absolutely wrong about Dante having star-level gravity.
It's not even close. Not even on moon level. Moon level gravity is capable of causing entire oceans to rise and bulge out of the earth's surface and Dante didn't display gravity even close to such a scale.
No. That’s terrible logic if you want Asta to be able to affect Naruto’s attacks with his anti-magic then add verse equalization otherwise no he can’t. Using the logic that because Asta can negate magic and chakra is similar to magic to claim that Asta can negate chakra based attacks is dumb. They aren’t the same. That’s like saying because Haki and Chakra are used to accomplish some of the same things then characters like Boruto, Kawaki, Momoshiki, and Sasuke would be able to drain Haki. See how that’s that’s terrible logic?
Yep I agree with you
Finally some one that get it chakra and magic are two different things is like saying natsu can eat akinu magma
I agreed with this statement crimson
@@saleeksmith4765dude I literally give you examples in another chat on why you shouldn't do it and I know what's power equalization lol
@@christopherlake9667 He's a clown who doesn't even know what he's talking about
Terrible speed scaling
how is kid naruto ftl when he was struggling with raikage who was barely ls
or itachi who was far stronger than kid naruto couldn't even dodge a single lighting
and haku feat got debunked by sasuke getting speed blitzed by rock lee who speed of sound
naruto verse have barely ftl feats since great ninja war
Wow, I haven't seen Broku in soooo long, nice to see a Collaboration between you two
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@ToasterXD I very much did :)
@@ToasterXDChakra is spiritual energy plus vital energy, that is, mana+ki.
In the story of Naruto it is made clear that if one of these jutsu is missing or the person dies, in the case of the jutsu or forms, they will be eliminated. In this case, Naruto's mode will be completely turned off.
@@Azaerus this just means a zetten enhanced with anti-magic from asta could be enough for naruto
@@wuuhnnn The decapitating demon affects the soul bro and cuts whatever he wants, a single cut and it's k.o.
lvl Arcanum: affectation and ignorance of a large part of physical and natural laws.
Dark degree lvl: affectation, ignorance and destruction of some concepts and abstract elemental and spiritual affectation such as the soul.
erasure of all spiritual energy related to the soul or emotions along with the impact of curses with metsuma.
dont get me wrong, asta is strong. i mean anti magic can be as far as anti haki chakra you get it.
however even so, naruto has basically everything better. if he plays it right and doesnt get hit by the anti sword he will win for sure.
if he does get hit he would still maybe win.
If he gets hit he loses tbh but sure
Naruto survived Planetary blast like it's nothing so.......He might win
@@davidvanaa1191 asta surviving multiple hits from lucifero 50% who's far above planetary:
@@aztecgb7520 and Naruto surving Indra's Arrow and Ashura Kurama blast like it's nothing and still have a stamina and chakra(basically mana) to continue fighting even after Sasuke absorbs his chakra lol
@@davidvanaa1191 multi continental durability 🗿🍷
Can u explain how mana and chakra are similar cuz am not buying it without good proof
The composition is the key
Well if you equalized the power system then Asta wins but if you don't, naruto would win against it.
They're completely different 😂
@@lex7454 ikr
@@saleeksmith4765yes they're completely different - here are some examples
1. Asta Anti magic doesn't work because naruto don't have magic and same can applied to naruto with this rasenshuriken since Asta don't have chakra cell.
2. Asta can still cut naruto with this zetten technique and naruto can still hurt him with rasengen.
3. When chakra run out completely, you are going to died while mana do not.
These are some view examples of different power system.
When doing cross verse battles most people discuss equalizing the power systems if they have similar properties (ki for dbz and chakra for naruto) but to say that asta can negate chakra is a big stretch because anti magic is specific to magic, and trying to equalize magic to chakra is a bigggggg stretch since the powers are too different/specific
Itd still be a wash astas faster physically stronger and better hax
@@dangpfpcute8734naruto violates asta lmao, not even devil union in the manga can beat the middle state narutos, anti magic won't fo shit Aginst chakra and a rasengan to the face lol, plus naruto is way way faster
@@narutolikestoes9028You do realize Asta dodged light attacks in base right? That happened before time skip too and Naruto got impaled by a sword. No one who's honestly read or even watched Black Clover thinks this. The worst part is Asta not even in his prime either.
@@andrayday8064 dude... Not even devil union beats naruto lol
@@dangpfpcute8734 prove that he is stronger, because both are ftl but naruto has way higher ap
Sadly as a asta fan boy I think naurto can outlast asta easily
I think he actually can pull through, he has much better stamina than Naruto in Bayron Mode and is much faster, so he can't really be touched, and once BM runs dry, Naruto's fucked
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 Asta has better stamina than Naruto?! Asta is faster than Naruto??! You must be on crack.
Who cares about bayron mode. Naruto in six paths mode with all nine tails powers was already on a god level and had infinitely more chakra and stamina than Asta could ever dream of and is faster. Ninetails chakra alone is tremendously more than Asta's entire anti-magic reserves and besides ninetails can always infuse more chakra using clones during a fight like he did in the final battle against Sasuke so how the hell will naruto run dry? Asta will be the first to run out of anti-magic and will lose the moment he does.
@@fidelisitor8953naruto has just as good stamina as naruto and in terms kf speed asta blows naruto outta the water
@@marcierex4547 Keep dreaming. Asta has nowhere near the stamina Naruto has and Naruto speed blitzes him. Only thing Asta has going for him is antimagic and even that is useless against the truthseeker orbs but Naruto has so much that he can use to easily one shot Asta.
Asta should be compared to the likes of Deku from MHA and not to gods like Naruto. It's easily one sided. Naruto one shots Asta.
@@fidelisitor8953 truth seeking orbs are spiritual destruction which asta has countered existence erasure
Saying Asta can't use his calculated speed, AP and arsenal of tools is like saying Naruto can't use KCM because it's not his chakra but that of Kurama's.
That's why I believe there's no such thing as verse equalising as we are already equating their feats to the logic of our world. As such it's best to take them as they've been calculated and let them have access to their full range of abilities that they have access to through their own means and not something like SO6P which is something Naruto couldn't achieve without Hagaromo's chakra or the wizard king sword in the BC movie.
To be clear, I'm saying what they can do without external help
lol asta are more faster and he has better feats
Really nice video and factual scaling of these characters and I'm guessing so many people are surprised that black clover has mftl+ speed feats and dwarf star level characters as when it comes to scaling black clover is easily the most underrated series as people think that black clover characters are weak 😂 when it house one of most strongest characters in new gen shounen. I have seen people talk that deku beats asta🤣🤣
amazing how people still doubt bc being MFTL+
@@JEANFS170 yeah 🤣
some top tiers can be scaled to uni+ ap with mftl+ speeds, like people who scale above the yami's inf glamour world feat such as asta, yuno, yami, lucius, etc. the people i jus named are also the only ones who could arguably have inaccessible or infinite speed.
it's not underrated when black clover is just terrible
Ye Naruto Slams
He doesn't lol
Asta is much faster than Naruto . In chapter 35 Julius's chrono-statis spell traps eye of the midnight members and they were able to move .This is significant because it is stated that time doesn't move in the spell showing that they have inaccessible speed . Asta obviously has much higher speed than them making him much quicker than naruto
Asta can move because antimagic lol
yuno did it without magic and asta scales to that@@Ginnime
you didnt even understand what you said, but as the person who replied said, he moved because of anti magic
yuno did the same thing as well idiot@@Dylan-qj8gj
The funny thing is that high teirs in black clover were already at FTL+ speeds from the BOS and asta just surpassed them in speed like it was nothing
I would say asta wins i think he has speed advantage over naruto and if we use Verse equalization he has higher chances to win
Ah by the way I don't think SO6P Naruto would be able to do anything against Asta With 4 horns
And if now ppl say BM Naruto slams i would say useless considering it is just a nerf it makes Naruto strength increase drastically but his speed does not get much amplifier as well as he can not use this other abilities
And if we say naruto can use brayon mode to beat him it would be useless since Asta would have Anti-chakra which is different from normal chakra by verse equalisation
While 5 horns Asta was breaking casually asa had a massive buff in speed
And Even if we Naruto manged to blow a hole in asta body it is going to be useless because anti magic in latest chapters showed that it can re attach body parts and even heals them completely so i think asta wins imo
EDIT: You heavily underrated asta speed and AP
Speed:
if you ask me he is 15 trillion times faster than light while naruto's most highball calculations in speed most likely makes in 7 billion times faster than light which is again a wank i think he is baseline FTL in speed
Asta takes advantage in speed category.
AP:
And the next thing is hax
And if we use verse equalization and say
Chakra=mana then asta one shots asta AP is most likely is small planetry lvl which is enough to hurt someone like Naruto who was moon level in durability
Simply means that if we also consider words equalization and chakra = Mana means if asta lands single blow it is literally game over for Naruto since chakra = life force
Meaning Naruto entire chakra would be destroyed which would instantly kill him so this debate is much closer than you appear to seem
And by the way naruto's AP is very much useless against asta If he can't catch up with him in Speed
Asta also have casualty manipulation as well as limited death manipulation
Even if you blow a hole within asta that wound get sealed up by anti magic you can even close wounds of people who got literally cutted in half was shown in the latest chapter were asta sealed the wounds black bulls in which many of their organs were blown up as well as got cutted in half lol and Anti magic sealed their wounds like it was nothing
As well as asta has Casuality manipulation and force deflection if he uses black tornado
Meaning he can easily erase naruto's arm or any ranged attacks from Naruto using casualty manipulation and the force can be easily dealt if he decides to deflect it into another direction along with casualty manipulation which will not only erase the attack out of existence but it will not give toll of force on asta body
Sasuke has a mftl speed feat after the war arc ...
@@cjmatrix7366 still doesn't matter imo Naruto achieved FTL speed feats after very long time
This was a great video.
You do not know how long I have looked and waited to see a Naruto vs Asta video.
I do think the speed advantage would go to Asta though and the win cons would be 6/10 in Naruto favour due to his higher AP and Versatility.
I would love to hear your opinion on Yuno vs Sasuke though I think that would be a sick fight.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sasuke would demolished yuno💀
@@absharynoor3065 fax sasuke would be demolished by yuno
@@t1red268 tf that u u said it backwards so sad mid clover are just cheap fucking copy
@@t1red268True, with Star Magic, Yuno has instant teleportation, on top of being ridiculously fast prior to obtaining it. Sasuke ain’t touching him.
I saw a RUclipsr say Asta beats Goku 😭
Is NOBODY gonna mention the fact that Naruto uses chakra and NOT MAGIC so asta cant just cancel it out? There's literally been points in Naruto where magic has been used as well as science, technology, and ancient mythology its not just chakra. There are SIMILARITIES but chakra and magic are different not interchangeable. (Thats like saying homophones have the same meaning because the words sound alike even though they're spelled different and are 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT words) Not to mention the fact he mentioned up to a certain point with naruto and limited his abilities BUT LISTED ALL OF Astas. Like be realistic.
Verse equalization
True
But Even if we remove verse equalization asta still has the absolute advantage to kick back Naruto's attacks
Since the official translation for asta's energy is ANTI-ENERGY not anti-magic
@@Primerival09 that's a semantics argument just because the "original translation" uses a different word doesn't mean the meaning is different. There's a lot of words that have a specific meaning in a certain language/culture that aren't translatable. The same rule applies with both anime and manga he's not on no meliodas full counter shxt he just repells magical energy/powers because he can't use it himself
@@xrayeblaquediamonds4440 Asta has already negated attacks other than Magic in his verse in the land of the sun where they use a different system. So him being Anti Energy is very true.
Asta has negated:
Mana
Negative Mana
Yojutsu
Purified Devil Power (It is unknown if this is using mana or something else)
@@Foxlet116anti energy for his verse.
Dosen't mean he is anti to any energy out of his own verse he isn't anti nen anti chakra anti haki anti ki(db) etc.
Crazy m'y dog victims are stronge 😧
@@saleeksmith4765 i dont believe universal naruto or black Clover it GOT debunked
One Universal/4D argument that can be made for Naruto revolves around the newest Boruto chapter in which Kawaki chills in his timeless dimension where Naruto is trapped in. It leaves the question whether Isshiki was able to do similar things [as we know (Baryon Mode) Naruto surpassed him] or whether timeskip Kawaki has just mastered Isshiki’s abilities and simply became the strongest besides Shibai (and Daemon) now
Naruto isn't universal
@@dinomoney2142 I‘m not claiming that. I just noticed Kawaki‘s POTENTIAL 4D feat
@@minicooper1293 also Baryon Mode didn't surpass Isshiki. Isshiki was already at deaths door so he wasn't at full power and if he wasn't at deaths door he would have killed everyone
@@dinomoney2142it did surpass isshiki.
He didn't beat isshiki because of his own time limit.
Just because isshiki said the punches aren't much of a problem dosen't mean he isn't getting damaged.
He essentially means the punches are doing damage but the life decrease is more important.
It matters to the size of the dimension.
@9:30 imo I do think orochimaru is stronger than jiraiya but of course he would not have tried his hardest to stop/kill Naruto so I don't think that the whole him almost dying to the four tails thing is that huge of a deal although I do think it's still somewhat relevant but of course pervy sage was holding back so I still take it with a grain of salt. Love the video and the topic, you guys rock
asta get bullied and then naruto says- wellll maybe if you can kill the clone id let you fight me, till then keep trying
Asta gets speed and debetably hax. Everything else goes to Naruto
I think chakra and mana was the same. Nature energy from sage mode and ki energy in black clover were the same too...
Yall reaching atp, it isn't, asta is useles Aginst chakra user
@@narutolikestoes9028 chakra is literally spiritual energy, so is mana. honestly i dont want to argue much with someone who has naruto in his username
@@aztecgb7520 ur littarly reaching atp lmao, no it ain't spiritual
@@narutolikestoes9028 yes it is, kakashi literally explained what chakra is at the beginning of the show.
@@aztecgb7520 he did and it wasn't that, mana and chakra are way diff
Good Video but Broku could have went more in depth with Asta scaling like Toaster.
he did that so many times on his channel tho
@@Austinfdp very true, but It would have more of an impact and be more convincing here. Essentially because BC and Asta is already Downplayed a lot.
@@darkidthedemonthey didn’t even use later feats from Naruto, only like Shippuden feats mainly and he gets far stronger than that just in base in Boruto
@@danielgedeon6454The battle is SO6P (Teen)Naruto vs Asta so that makes sense why he didn't use Adult Naruto feats.
@@darkidthedemon lol i thought he was talking about adult naruto aswell wtf but naruto wins anyway and people think base asta soloes naruto verse black clover fans hating on naruto so asta can win
Well ill be damed , didnt thought asta was this much strong dang well nice video waiting to see more
Lucifero has 3 statements(Nacht, Narrator, and Tabata/Data book) and a feat from the manga. Tabata/Data book Statments for: The pair fought in spade country, defeating the king who was about to destroy/ruin/wreck the world, gaining accomplishment as a magic. Feats: Lucifero fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth(Dark magic + World Tree Magic) to aid in his manifestation. The Tree of Qliphoth is a channel between both worlds that branches throughout the levels of the underworld. The Tree of Qliphoth scales to the size of the underworld or greater. Which in turn would scale to the size of the BC earth low balled or BC Universe. This would even make would even Worm Lucifero and 50% Lucifero (Planetary-Universal+) since he fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth. (TDU Asta>) Lucius gain 100% Lucifero by eating both of his hearts then spent 15month raiding the underworld getting stronger. Later on PDU Asta(PDU>PDU Asta>Base Lucius>>>Worm and 50-100% Lucifero) Land of The Rising Sun arc: Later on Asta began his training to master Zetten an advance version of Ki were the user can channel all of there yoryoku/magic thoughout there body and release it all at once or at a specific output increase their power 20-100x. Day 1: Asta fights base Ichika for the first time and Asta says Devil union would be useless against her putting her above current Base Lucius and Lucifero that we seen fight Asta. (Base Ichika>>>Asta Forms) Day 2-3: Asta trains with The Ryuzen (Ryuzen>Asta) Day 4: PDU Asta was equal to Black Musha Ichika form but losses in zetten exchange. After that battle trains Asta against the strongest member of the Ryuzen 7 "Mushouga". (Mushouga>Ryuzen>=Asta) After his training he Mastered Zetten that was said to take decades to learn. Asta can now see attacks attacks before they come and make his attack more powerful and precise then ever. He also defeated 2 Paladins(Created by Lucius using soul magic) one being Sister Lily who surpassed 100% beelzebub putting her and the other paladins on or above Planetary+. (Lucius>Mastered Zetten Asta>Mushouga>Paladins>=Ryuzen>Sacred Dragon>Lucifero) Asta would scale to Large Planet-Universal+ lvl MFTL+ to Infinite Speeds. 3 Uni+ Feats: Dorothy Glamour world: being stated to be Infinite in size and able to spawn real moon and stars. Yami destroyed it nearly instantly with Dimension slash(HAX) and surpasses that with Death thrust(A.P). Zenon: he created a Subspace/hyperspace with spatial magic and yuno destroyed 4 dimensional space.(Uni+) Lucifero: fuse with the Tree of Qliphoth which is a channel between both worlds that branches throughout the levels of the underworld and the underworld scale to (Planetary-Universal+) Asta> Anti Magic is type of Arcane Stage Magic. Arcane Stage Magic can effect physical/Invisible/Intangible concepts while also being above all effects and ignore laws of physics stated by Gaja and Lolopechika.
Asta slams
black clover scaling is getting extremely wild in the manga, yuno with his neverland where time doesn't flow, a direct counter to time magic+magic manipulation, asta somehow moving in the chronostatsis. what's more is that we haven't seen round 2 of lucius vs asta, we haven't seen how strong asta actually is now that he has practically mastered zetten, the fight should be coming soon.
PDU Asta=Base Lucius
Lucius put everyone in his chrono stasis and Asta could only react AFTER he realized he was in Chrono Stasis
Base Lucius>Base Asta
Meaning Base Asta can't negate it, and since he transformed after getting trapped, that would mean he moved in stopped time.
If it was just Asta's innate Anti-Magic that could negate it regardless of strength/AP, Asta wouldn't have been trapped by Julius in the Royal Knights Selection Arc
🔥🔥🔥Lucius stopped Linear Time itself, and Asta was able to move in his Chrono Stasis, granting him Immeasurable Speed, not Inaccessible
Bruh,moving in time stop or just any time stop ability dosen't grant one ant tier of speed.
That's specifically stated in the vs wiki speed tiers.
And kawaki moves in stopped time too.
It dosen't scale to speed.
@@somanchipranav1964 it does grant speed, unless there are some rules that would allow you to move in it.
asta in base would be large planetary since he one-shot paladin damnatio in base form and paladin damnatio> paladin sister lily> 100% beelzebub. making paladin damnatio large planetary.
@@wuuhnnnit doesn’t learn how to scale
Naruto slams
Statement wise hes high solar system level
Kaguta was shown to be star level and toneri was stated to be stronger than kaguya and naruto low diffed toneri without even using spsm and baryon mode is even stronger
Naruto is not winning bud
@@youtubestudio4305wrong
You black clover fans head getting a little too big it’s completely one sided
I don’t wanna hear that bs about Dorothy’s dimension because she doesn’t scales to it nor does Yami it was purely hax their moon level high ball jerking him and FTL
Keep dreaming 😂😂
@@Genesisthewk Ratio. The buddy here is right.
@@thecollectorchildsoloyourf4150 in what way 😭😭🤦🏿♂️
How does she not scale to it It's a thing she creates With her magic power
@@JustAGuy8541 it's the same thing as Obito kamui
Bro I thought the Naruto scaling was the biggest problem in this video asta being dwarf star level is crazy because somebody can make a dream with their magic they're solar system level no it's a dream it's basically a genjutsu because infinite tsukuyomi can make a whole universe does that make it Universal no.
what are you chatting about dimensions created by kugya/momoshiki are not infinite tsukuyomi they are dimensions that were created
Mana and Chakra are EXTREMELY similar. Nobody can reasonably deny that. If we apply universe equalization- WHICH WE SHOULD- this fight would straight up become impossible for Naruto to win. Even without any of Asta’s swords.
No they aren't,they are extremely different.
Chakra is more a spiritual energy+physical energy,a mix of like ki from dragon ball and regular magic from verses like bc and ft.
And again nature chakra,so6p chakra are different things.
Even if you argue that anti magic negated chakra,that dosen't mean that it negates sage chakra or so6p chakra
mana and chakra are extremely different? you mean chakra and Ki frm black clover are extremely similar as they're both life force energy
@@somanchipranav1964 chakra = Ki frm black clover, not db, asta can use zetten, which is letting out a large amount of ki (life force energy or the way you defined it ) all at once
@@wuuhnnnnot the same chakra =\= ki from BC
@@danielgedeon6454 they're extremely similar doesnt matter if they arent the same
Just about all of asta’s abilities are win cons for him in this fight. Even assuming that Naruto is faster (I’d argue that asta is faster, but even if not at least relative) asta just has the abilities to make this fight his. Demon destroyer negs all abilities Naruto has outside taijutsu (assuming equalization), if he doesn’t have it (idk y not but oh well) any and all projectiles would be rendered useless by dweller or slayer cuz he could absorb and return with dweller and reflect with slayer, both at an increased power. Finally slasher is an infinity slash. It all just comes down to if he can get a clean cut with that sword, but just about any of Naruto’s attack wouldn’t work on him. Even using the scaling that asta has to be relative to the power of the attack, so much of Naruto’s abilities are more hax than powers. Plus true devil union kinda just makes the battle unfair.
People don’t understand that Naruto is the literal product of a god and he is a Demi god himself even without kurama he is a Demi god if unmatched the show you’d know this
Being a god doesn’t mean an automatic win against every character with that logic we can say kaguya beats Dante From dmc ☠️
Asta is already stronger and faster than Naruto with a large gap
the thing is while naruto reached his peak and has his time ended already , asta is about to reach his peak soo this current battle would't really be measurable as the power ups for asta could be getting a new type of magic , being able to use anti-magic with 0 limits , and the possibilities are immeasurable
If Asta becomes Astaroth then he'll b able to cancel the time limit he has
You can't really use Naruto's peak in Boruto, because he's been nerfed by the author.
you forgot that asta abilities to cancel or negate magic is no different from characters with the Rinnegan who can absorb or negate justu, and naruto has tons of experience fighting characters like that even like kaguya, momoshiki and isshiki who are otsutsuki that can absorb, erase, deflect and negate every from of ninjustu. Naruto doesn't need to resort to justu to beat asta. A simple kcm 2 with hand to hand combat is enough to beat asta. And that's if verse equalization will eveen work in the first place cause asta powers cancels out magic or mana related powers and chakra is not mana at all
Chakra isn't Mana.
okay the light speed scaling is kinda wildy inaccurate to how it would realistically be lol
like 100,000k faster than the speed of light, wtf does that even mean lol.
The closer you get to the speed of light the astronomically faster you become than the previous speed. So 0.1 the speed of light is not gonna be half of 0.2 and so on.
Regardless just being slightly faster than the speed of light will be enough to speed blitz anyone at speed of light, the 100,000k wank is excessive and not at all accurate to how that stuff works lol
Even if chakra = mana doesn’t it have to be relative in power to work
Just sayin naruto slams asta bad in base in every category like deadass if you wanna talk speed then he dodges raikage in kcm1 who was lightspeed now put sage mode with that which sage mode is a 10x multiplier now kcm2 is not a known multiplier but you know he outscales kcm 1 in speed by a lot now sage of six path mode outscales everything I just said in speed right now sasuke has stated in the novel that he has outscales kaguya currently so naruto is said to be sasukes equal so him struggling with kaguya in speed and to now him going toe to toe with people like fused momoshiki that created a parallel universe in base while having only 50% chakara just tells you his speed is definitely far bigger then asta to the point where to the point where asta can’t even think before getting vaporized by a rasengan also sasuke in base could perceive light speed in base and when he activated sharingan speed of light felt slow to him and naruto is equal to sasuke so the same applies also this was kid sasuke 💀 so to sum it up I think naruto is 10000x mftl+ lowballed because we literally know all the things that leads him here but now highballed is infinite speed which you can get to without loopholes to naruto neg diffs black clover in base sorry but I don’t make the scalings kishimoto does 😅
I think with verse equalisation asta could potentially win because having magic being chakra and chakra being magic asta can cancel literally anything naruto would throw at him. And yes i know about the numbers advantage naruto would have but with astas ki he can just read any attack that comes in his direction
Would he even need Ki with the insane speed advantage he has?
Probably not but its best to use ur abilities to the max especially in this fight
bro naruto dont need chakra 😂
@@manty59 Ur too late, Current manga asta already wipes naruto off the face of the planet.
I think Asta can win 1 he haves that 100x power up 2 I thinks he faster and anti magic can just stop any thing he can do + mana zone so in the end I think Asta high difs
Naruto wipes his ass with asta😹
@@saleeksmith4765💀, you don't gotta lie my dude 😭
@@MrLoops-dq9xtyou gotta believe him dude, he’s not lying
@@Prideium9001 💀
@@MrLoops-dq9xtcrazy part is he ain’t lying y’all just meat riding Naruto for no reason
asta victim
Bro said Naruto has more win conditions and did not say any of them. Then after broku scale Asta speed which is around the billions and Naruto is 10 million, then bro say well I think Naruto is faster. And what make even wrost is Asta universal argument is better, then Naruto and what make even wrost is that he was mainly just talking about base Asta broku didn’t even mention devil union or true devil union
Asta's underrated
tbh he is,but naruto still slams
@da.crixxx Yeah, fair Naruto is a longer series it closer than people say though
@@da.crixxxAsta is faster and we know Naruto is not sword proof.
i don’t what you mean but naruto for higher durability higher endurance and regeneration
@@andrayday8064 and got better battle iq and speed
Yep it’s not even close Naruto slams badly
Asta literally has light speed feats in base before time skip and has swords. Naruto got impaled by a sword. Just say you never read Black Clover.
Asta has lightspeed feats by chapter 20 . He dodged mirror magic which is just reflected light
Ichigo victims
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Facts 😎
Heck no
Get that fraud out of here
incorrect
Asta negs Naruto low dif
Naruto negs lmafo, not even devil union can touch naruto, his anti magic won't do shit
@@narutolikestoes9028 cope naruto highball has 1.5 mil times the speed of light asta lowballed has at least 5 million at highest end he has quadrillions so no Naruto gets victimized clown
@@Niko-yk7zr teen naruto enough cry
ngl, I actually thought Asta had a shot due to his anti-magic possibly weakening Naruto's attacks, but oh well😅. Great video either way👍.
Although I'm not sure if you're too big on requests, do you think you can do a Deku vs Gon debate, as these are two of my favourite series and protagonists (also green hair).
I just think it would be a fun matchup😋
Not sure why or how you thought this
@@sir_mystic4127 what do you mean?
@@sir_mystic4127it's pretty fucking obviou stop d riding Naruto and getting mad because someone said something I'm getting really tried of bitc$ Naruto fans sthu 😐
@@sir_mystic4127verse equalization????
I don't think the power system in hunter x hunter will effect the one in mha that much, if at all, same goes vise-versa.@@RohanShwarma
Wasnt Haku holding back against Naruto and Sauske i thought it was obvious they he could have killed them if he wanted too
Nine tails cloak 0 I believe powercliffed him.
@nicholasaugello2534 yea because he allowed it I mean cmon literally when they reanimated Haku and Zabuza was literally fighting a Even more Stronger version of Kakashi who would stomp 1 cloak kid Naruto
Yes of course.
Haku attacks was so fast that Sasuke could only barely move after seeing it with Sharingan.
And Haku's between his mirrors was faster than Kurama amped Naruto could perceive.
Also , Naruto had Kurama Chakra leaking out like crazy and it even took form of nine tails Head.
And Haku's mirrors withstood such Chakra surge.
Haku only lost because He was holding back.
And because Naruto actually Caught his hand so he can't escape. If she managed to get back into her mirrors , Naruto would no win
its crazy people are saying base asta soloes naruto+the verse
Ngl I feel like scaling to Kaguya who can destroy stuff in her infinite realms is disingenuous, because that would mean that Hashirama (beat the 9 tails who even at half power can beat 5 tailed beasts) at least has a fraction of the power required to destroy an infinite space. Same thing for Dorothy as well.
Not for Dorothy her realm is imaginary not r3al
@@vivianm1204Her dimension is actually real. It was stated that whatever she creates in her dimension has the same properties as real life.
@@vivianm1204it is real what are you even saying
i actually agree, scaling off characters' dimensions is often super inaccurate
@@aztecgb7520That's why I disregard Yukio's pocket dimension when scaling Ichigo
the downplay on naruto NEEDS to stop!!!
And other verses need to stop being wanked
The downplay on Asta needs to stop man. Have you watched Broku’s vids? You’ll learn alot about actually how strong Asta is… he’s more comparable to Ichigo and Natsu then he is to Naruto.
@@Prideium9001as much as I don't like Black Clover let me help you out it's safe to say that asta from could defeat Naruto again I don't need scaling or calculations I use my head as an adult so who cares
@@Prideium9001and yes asta does beat natsu lli give you that fine
@@cjcj4861 I agree that Naruto is also downplayed to oblivion by One Piece and Mha fans tho, I’ve seen arguments about Deku having a better battle IQ and more hax meaning he’ll win
Asta and naruto are not universal
So you are just Ignoring the novel actually..
Bc if check Novel eps 65 Rescues Naruto: Momoshiki dimensions is stated to be parallel Universes.
And it's just One sided .
novel cannon is it's own thing, but if you want to use universal naruto, there is literally a universal asta argument in the video as well
@@JottoHearthStone yes novel is cannon. Also Why I said kaguya is uni it's bc she was gonna erase both time space and Even The Likes of Zetsu stated not only him but Kakashi Obito also stats ! In the manga.. also In the anime Naruto stats her dim is known as parallel dimensions and parallel dimensions= Parallel Universe/Alternate Universe/alternate Reality.. not only that in the manga Kakashi also stats as alternative dim And alternate Dim= Parallel Dim/Uni .
Also Asta Uni argument it's not really valid ! Also if u think he is uni than Lmao he solos most of the verses and Asta >>>>>ICHGO unless you bring Bleach 5d scalling 😂😂😂Again this is absurd bc he only scale to Gremmy who summon not created an outer space.
@@amaterstu8000
Ok I would say uni asta is about as valid as uni naruto, there is a reason they are both known about but not frequently used since they contradict a lot of other things.
The naurto uni scaling mostly comes from momoshiki, but even then it doesn't hold up well since he thought the 9-tails was a substancial amount of chakra and the 9-tails has many many statements limiting it to planetary. There's also no proof that any of the other ones are universe in size (a parallel space could be any size)
The Uni asta comes from glamour world scaling largely but also from hyperspace statements for 4d power, these are not often used for debate because of the same things that the uni naruto scaling has, beit they are inconsistent with later feats.
@@JottoHearthStone valid as Naruto?? Okay fine first of all I haven't done reading the bc manga yet ! Also kaguya get Lowballing it's only bc of db fans ! Bck than there were no bleach no Opm it's was Kaguya with the uni Scalling since than she got lot of Debunk for his dim size but not really bc those Dimensions have day night cycles stars moon and Sun also in the OVA we can see Celestial bodies And if u check out NUNS4 we can see countless stars . And it's btw..
Lmao the uni Scalling doesn't come form Momoshiki bck than in Shippuden Kaguya was already Uni as Zetsu stated she was gonna erase all time space ! Also she created those Dimensions bc even in the databook it's says weaving whcuh means she created it. And base Momo it's alredy Uni as we can see that his dim holds stars with celestial bodies and red shift nebula . Also if u own Novel / or u can check /buy so in the novel eps 64 : NARUTO RESCUE: it's stated that Momoshiki dim was a parallel universe.. also in other scans Susuke stated that he was Draining chakra from that of beyond parallel universe! Also if we talk about isshiki we saw what his 10% would just solo All of them >>> .
@@JottoHearthStone what feats Naruto doesn't have to support the uni Scalling?? Lmao just Look at the blech fandom for example! Anything above Town level it's just an outlier! Also the series haven't even perform Country to contintent feats The best feat was just slicing a hill! Where as we cann what Other char from Naruto can do like Ten tails just casually blasting Continent level...
Also Nine tails doesn't have many statment in the databook it's just stated as half of nine tails could turn Ash to world's.. and if u read manga it's says that 2nd version of ten tails is compared to the small Planet.
Also momo wasn't Came for nine tails chakra I'd even know what are u talking about now ! He came to harvest what kaguya coun't do . Also what proff are you talking about relating to Size ?? And i am very sorry but I hate to break down that there isn't any thing stated As space !! In the context......
Chakra is a form of magic so Asta wins this battle with speed and strength alone
Naruto solos black cover its not even close. Even during these last few chapters of black clover I dont see Asta beating Naruto. Maybe he can beat Naruto in base form (no kurama no six paths) by the end
incorrect
Asta basically blitzes one taps takes away kurama and negates every jutsu aside from sage
@@Igotnoissuesnot true, you seem to forget that asta abilities to cancel or negate magic is no different from characters with the Rinnegan who can absorb or negate justu, and naruto has tons of experience fighting characters like that even like kaguya, momoshiki and isshiki who are otsutsuki that can absorb, erase, deflect and negate every from of ninjustu. Naruto doesn't need to resort to justu to beat asta. A simple kcm 2 with hand to hand combat is enough to beat asta. And that's if verse equalization works in the first place cause asta powers cancels out magic or mana and chakra is not mana at all
@@olagokeemmanuel9625Naruto does need his jutsus to fight asta as a hand to sword fight with asta would end up In Naruto’s massacre as asta is way way way faster than Naruto so if Naruto chose to throw hands he’ll absolutely gets blitz. If he used kcm 2 against asta he’ll get blitz asta is fast enough to blitz someone like Conrad who can dodge Julius’s time magic
@@Oneshotmaster256 entering his modes like kcm or so6p is totally different from using justu. We have seen him boxing with momoshiki without even using a single justu and the justu that was to defeat him was used by boruto. Naruto has fought sword users before, heck even his rival(sasuke) is a sword user so saying because asta uses swords puts naruto at a disadvantage is not true. This battle is not even close. Giving the benefit of doubt that asta could even cancel chakra which is still impossible as both verse energy are totally different, there is no way asta can cancel naruto's overwhelming attack. Kaguya who was reborn through madara's body had madara's chakra, the ten tails(which was already stated to planet worthy of chakra both in the manga and anime which makes ten tail jinchuriki planetary at minimum) and still extracted chakra from the shinobi in the infinite tsukiyomi and both naruto and sasuke confirmed that the chakra is more than madara who had that time already had a planet worth of chakra. Now this kaguya will still say that naruto who was in so6p had just as much chakra as her and she treated naruto more dangerous than sasuke because he had just as much chakra as her and how she wanted to absorb his chakra before killing him. Except if you are telling me asta can negate a planet to multiplanetery worty of chakra then I see no way asta can win. Naruto so6p gives him unparalleled sensory abilities as well as an advanced version of precognition which makes him able to sense attacks before it is even made. At the end of the war arc, naruto is able to create clones more durable that it takes killing hits to dispel them like when sasuke used the almighty pull and the flame control of amaterasu as well as using chidori to stab through the chest of the clones just to dispel them, each clones being able to even use the kurama avatar cloak. In terms of stamina, naruto far outclassed asta as well as in combat experience, regeneration, durability seeing as naruto has tank his own chakra explosion that put a hole in the moon and he took that in base. Asta anti-magic can not help him much here seeing as even with that anti magic he is far outclassed in stats alone not to talk of abilities. Asta strongest form still works on time limit too which already put him in a disadvantage.
in one of his vids that mf scaled Asta to 15 billion times to speed of light... powerscaling can get hella wild some times
It's accurate tho
Asta is just *that* fast
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966he isn't.
Great video. One issue i have always had is scaling with glamor world and kaguya dimensions. Yes they have arguably universal feats within those alternate worlds, however they clearly dont outside of those dimensions. This is obviously because they have power that directly gives them control of those alternate worlds.
We would never say a JJK character with a sure hit in their domain can also sure hit outside of the domain. Why? Because the power is one that can only be used in the domain and clearly hasnt been demonstrated outside of it.
I would apply the same logic to kaguyas dimensions and glamor world. They have the ability to destroy them sure, but clearly they dont have the same degree of control over the real world or they would have utilized it.
From what I learned in this video is Asta would be so physically strong I don’t think Naruto’s attacks would do much damage and Asta affected someone who teleported Naruto is literally doomed against Asta
Bro,like you learned wrong.
The main point is that Naruto is several times stronger that's what even toaster said.
@@somanchipranav1964 ok pal clearly you weren’t watching the same video because if Naruto had to fight Asta without chakra there’s no way he beats Asta
@@SoulLokix-nm4mo he wouldn't fight him without chakra.
Cuz anti magic(even if you use the anti energy statement)≠anti chakra.
And Naruto without chakra dies,verse equalisation is not possible.
Anti energy is only anti to energy from bc verse like ki,yojutsu,magic and not chakra.
@@somanchipranav1964 ki is very similar to chakra ttp you can say they're almost the same. both are life force energy and asta can let out a large amount of ki all at once (zetten, which could also be a 20x, 40x, 60x or a 100x multiplier.)
@@wuuhnnneven then NARUTOs AP is so much higher even in base then Astas most powerful form that he would just get one shot
With what I've see, I think if naruto understands how asta fights and is careful while doing so, then he wins. But if not then asta might have the upper hand
Been waiting for this collab forever regardless of who wins i like the way both characters were elaborated by people who know how to scale them
Naruto absolutely dogs my boy
Can Naruto create alternate dimensions though, that was hax dude. You can't scale him to those things
Anti magic is the only thing that is even slightly relative to Naruto
Nope asta himself would be able to fight Naruto
Bruh Naruto does not use magic name is anti magic not anti chakra so his anti magic is useless against chakra so he can't cancel anything
the way magic in black clover is described would include chakra
@@planetarylinkit wouldn't
@@somanchipranav1964 Not magic, mana, my b. Chakra is the combination of physical and spiritual energy, mana is that and more.
@@planetarylink it isn't and again.
Sage chakra is physical+spiritual+natural.
So6p chakra is again different.
@@somanchipranav1964 Mana has nature energy too lol. You'd have to name a form of energy that chakra has and mana doesn't to prove it can't be negated.
The biggest problem with this video is that your scaling child Naruto to lightspeed by the fact that Haku can move at the speed of light with her technique Haku by the way who has no diseases or anything is just going easy on the literal children we know this because later on in Shippuden Haku and Zabuza are re-animated and yet they're able to go against people like Rock Lee and Kakashi who at this point should be much stronger and also the reanimation Jutsu makes people weaker so they should be weaker than before and are able to compete with stronger people that doesn't make sense so yeah child Naruto is nowhere near light-speed he does still wash.
Naruto fans sometimes don't check their own databooks, pre shippuden databooks literally says a bullet would be too much for the verse so how is naruto ftl😂? It's safe to say naruto had ftl reaction speed.
@@mufeezsyed2664 I was saying that
Honwstly I belive both of them are close depending on the scaling you use. Speed is similar but if you use both of their peak scaling Naruto wins
I would say that asta is low planetary and Naruto is mid high HOWEVER I have watched all of Naruto and all of black clover and read manga and I have to say this it will be really close with Verse equalization cus of anti magic.(also yuno vs sasuke, yuno mid diffs yunos star form (the green form lol) is basically so6p Naruto level also the only reason that asta vs yuno is close is cus if hax and strength)
Haku only moves between the mirrors at light speed because of reflection, haku himself when attacking people doesnt move at light speed
Naruto cought haku mid reflection
@@hassanhassan-os5oq no he didnt 😭😭😭 naruto broke the mirrors with his chakra and haku tried to attack naruto out of the mirror only when traveling between mirrors is haku lightspeed and he was traveling from mirror to the ground to attack naruto not to another mirror so
Moving and seeing light speed is very different than actually being light speed.
@@veautifulvensei3613he did, Haku was traveling inside his mirrors and Naruto catched him meaning that Naruto would scale to his speed so Light speed to FTL, so you just debunked ur self, also when Haku travels to the ground using the mirror he’s still Light speed as it was stated multiple times that as long as he travels using the mirrors themselves he’s light speed, which he did when Naruto catched him
@@matijasostojic4288Naruto didn’t perceive light speed movement, Sasuke did, Naruto reacted to it which is different so light speed
Naruto is so strong, that he broke the 4th wall and changed the title.
Honestly asta has 1 second before he gets torn to shreds by a rasenshuriken something that literally cuts cells and no anti magic is stopping it if naruto is just massively faster than him or can just fake him out with a clone or substitution jutsu
according to most calcs naruto is slower than him, just saying, you have to high ball naruto massively to get him to even the same speed tier.
It’s honestly crazy how people who don’t know how to power scale and also haven’t even read both series act as if they have a single clue about what their talking about
Well power scale loser all you guys do it talk shit abt him but y'all never try to scale yourselves
You do realize Asta can negate, repel, nullify, and absorb that. 😅
This is a person who read 0 chapters of Black Clover.
nice scaling i take nartuo takes it rn being large star with him almost scratching solar system with the momoand isshiki
dimension scaling with asta being large planetary with the julius scaling he could dwarf or large star at eos if do some crazy stuff
Creating or destroying a dimensions =/= destroying a universe. Nothing in Naruto states that her dimension is universal in size, and people will bring up parallel universes and shit like that, but once again, you can’t assume the size of a dimension unless it is stated by the author itself.
Kaguya’s dimension is simply just a pocket dimension. People got mixed up with it thinking it was a spacetime, but it was a mistranslation and Viz Media translated it to the real thing, which is just a dimension.
This, and not to mention this quite literally means Yukio from bleach is the same.
Pocket dimension feats are too ambiguous to be used concretely
It really just depends on what line of scaling you deem to be correct. There’s no concrete answer for who wins.
I like deep analysis on a character but bro was highballing Naruto's speed to the max
That speed was pure wank 😂
Real, at the beginning of the series asta in base form was faster than light and kurama’s tails are linear, they don’t multiply
Idk if I could agree with the same statement of mana and chakra being the same when they are different source of energy in asta world mana is all around them and technically they absorb mana from the outside source to some extent to increase there own mana while chakra is a combination of 2 embody sources of power mental and spiritual energy which isn't mana rather it's more similar to Dragonball ki energy which Dragonball made a clear distinction in ki and magic so I know for sure asta anti magic power wouldn't work on chakra
Correct!!!!!!!! Even otsutsukis can only absorb justu made out of chakra. Asta ability only works on magic, nothing more than that.
The time space thing was actually mistranslation It’s actually just space.
the raws is literally time-space.
@@ToasterXD whenever I do translations it means space
Can U pls do Deku Manga vs Demon King Tanjiro
Naruto is multi planet level, arguably solar level pre Baryon mode. Baryon mode made him go from completely inferior and getting blitzed, to 100% superior and curb stomping the most powerful Otsutsuki outside of their god.
Meaning Baryon mode Naruto is likely multi solar level. Possibly solar cluster level. Still not on the level of some other characters from other verses. But still insane.
Can you do one of these matchups?
1. Sternritter E vs Konan (spiritual bombs vs paper bombs)
2. Sternritter F vs Hantengu (fear vs fear, anger, pleasure, sorrow, joy, hatred)
3. Sternritter J vs Jack (jail vs slash Magic)
4. Sternritter P vs Sakura (both pink girl with power strength)
5. Sternritter S vs All Might (wwe superstar vs no.1 superhero)
6. Sternritter T vs Fana (thunder vs fire magic)
7. Sternritter V vs Zagred (think vs speak)
1. Bambietta would violate Konan, mismatch.
2. Literally anyone solos Demon Slayer.
3. Dunno
4. Meninas would rock Sakura's shit, she's too fast and too strong.
5. Mask solos the verse
6. Dunno
7. Gremmy might job it.
You should do Goku vs Giorno, me and my friends were debating this and it never got resolved lol
It’s been done numerous times and in most scenarios it’s goku… unless you’re putting goku from like, the Roshi fight (no ape) against ger
@@Kyuubey0406Nah we were talking about TUI goku from the manga vs GER, they said no matter what goku does he resets to zero which I completely disagree with.
@@_lazarus_7378 While they are right, theres no physical way for giorno to do any damage to goku making the fight a complete stalemate,which is the answer you will get in most videos youll watch about that matchup
You'd have to prove Goku's speed to be higher than GER so then he could blitz and onetouch Giorno
@@yokuutsu9097 you’d have to prove ger having higher speed than goku
Asta not winning this one
Damn, not gonna lie but I don't read Black Clover and assumed that the characters had pretty weak scaling like around MHA level, but I didn't know Asta was like that, lol.
@@saleeksmith4765💀💀 no one is bc is galaxy or uni. wtf r u on about
@@saleeksmith4765 Yeah, I didn't read Black Clover good enough because I didn't read it at all, lol.
@@saleeksmith4765Kaguya Dimension feat being Infinite. So both Naruto and Asta have similar AP.
The Natural Spirits however scale far above her and her dreamworld shouldn't even be taken seriously as a scaling feat.
@@saleeksmith4765 cause it would directly go against how strong the four elemental spirits are. Seeing as how the maximum power of one can only effect at most a continent.
The paradox of using Dorothy's dream world is that feats performed by much stronger characters are shown to have not nearly as much AP or destructive power.
@@saleeksmith4765 all of them should be equal.
We saw the water spirits effect a whole country. The spirits usually are considered to be the greatest sources of Mana. Dorothy does not have AP equivalent to her Dreamworld as she wasn't even able to beat Yami in it and he cut through that shit.
Her dream world seems to be y'know, a hax based separate dimension then just a "I have Uni+ AP" for some reason. Cause if so Dorothy scales past all of the dark triad and above without issue if their main weakness is Saint Stage.
i dont think yall know what light speed is if you move at the speed of light you can rotate the planet in 2 seconds, if naruto was 160x the speed of light this means he can rotate the planet in 12m/s or 0.012 seconds and considering naruto's planet is smaller than ours this means he can rotate it in less, witch means bro can pretty much move instantly anywhere but that wasnt the case in boruto anime when he was chasing the train robber, it took him a second or more to reach the end of the train he might have not been going full speed but either way, the google search says naruto 6 paths sage mode clock is a couple times the speed of light meaning its from 4-8x the speed of light
you could just say its because there are different types of speed, or because naruto or asta simply doesnt want to, attack, travel, reaction, perception are all different types
Naruto one shots wtf
Wait so naruto is actually star level!
Large star as teen,solar as adult.
Yeah people just don't think he is although he is.
@@somanchipranav1964 well I'm actually surprised I just I thought he was moon level at best
@@maniacgreen8609 that's generally where people think he is.
But as you saw toaster explain he is way stronger.
Like even regularly,you have hagoromo and hamura post kaguya fight which supposed continued for months atleast according to the anime fatigued create the moon and send it into orbit.(a small planetary to planatary feat)
Or you have madara spreading shinju across the planet in seconds which is a large planatary feat.
Or you have madara's meteors in so6p who's debris are bigger than mountain ranges(the manga panel gives abit more perspective on this)
Or again the light novel version of the last movie where it is stated that the tenseigan(the big blue orb that hinata and Naruto destroy)can withstand the destruction of the planet easily and survive but Naruto and hinata destroy it.
Or toneri himself saying several times that he can destroy the planet, especially after he absorbs sun's chakra at the end of the movie who kcm2 Naruto(full kurama) should scale over.
the title is Naruto vs Asta isn't close .
in vid explanation it is indeed close .
everyone in the comment has a pikachu suprised meme . (i know it for the algorithm and the clicks and it is a beast of a vid also great thumbnail keep at it bro and a nice collab ).
Naruto
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Base asta mid diffs 😂😂😂
@@snail137nah bro read white clover
Sound attacks in pt 1 of naruto and pt 2.are still affecting charecters that should be light speed accordingly? Also lightning attacks are effective throughout the entire series? The lifht fang from madara is so fast it takes all narutos effort to dodge it at the end of the war in kcm 2 sage mode with the ying yang buff? So is the light somehow faster than light?
no naruto could have dodge light fang easily he was being held by one of madara’s limbo clone
@@da.crixxxyeah was gonna say same thing
@@da.crixxxthen what about the sound and lightning attacks?