Good review of a nice little innovative stove.👍 As for being a 'Trangia killer'...no! Trangia have been making their spirit burner since 1951 and it still sells in huge numbers today. I got my first one in 1972 and still love them today. Until Goshawk produce a full stormproof cookset to go with this stove it will never compete with Trangia here in the UK with our crappy and changeable weather. If they made it so it would fit in a Trangia system then it might be a winner. Having said all that, I'll probably buy one to add to my collection. 😄
I built an alcohol stove with an old Daisy pellet can I had laying around . I used some welders' carbon felt instead of fiberglass to absorb the liquid, no spills, some screening from a tea leaf strainer to hold the felt in place. It holds 2 oz. or 60 ml of alcohol and with 1 oz of fuel will burn over 15 minutes. I use a Zen Camps wind screen/burner that works with alcohol or solid fuel and, though not designed that way, have used a small twig fire inside. I like things that can work with multiple options. At 76 years old, I like things that work well rather than being the lightest thing in the world. Function over form as it were. 58 degree temp and water no other windscreen 1 oz, 30 ml heet 8 min, too perfect coffee/tea temp 9 minutes to 212 degrees Flame out at 16min 45 sec
👍👍👍 .. right on! From a 'youngster' (YOB 1950) 😊. I have filled the majority of the multitude of my 'home-grown' alcohol burners with Glass / Ceramic Wool and/or Carbon Felt, including my Trangia Burner an have never looked back. Alcohol Burners, Pot Stands and Wind Screens. There are enough discarded Aluminium Energy Drink Cans, Pie Trays, Tuna / Pilchard Cans and Stainless Steel Bicycle Spokes out there to keep me and more, in Burners, Pot Stands and Wind Screens until the end of time.
i have this stove and love it ! i also have the big one HA-7075, very effective stoves and it's so much better to see theses perfectly inclined jets! thx for the vid
@@terryfinley7760 this one preheats super fast and so is more efficient for heating small quantities. imo, thin and small capillary stoves for small cups, biggerstoves for larger cups. so it depends on what you want to heat/cook. @PaleoHikerMD What do you think? i had fantastic boil times for just one cup with home made capillary stoves (toak's style)of just 6 grammes
I like it and the price is fine. I hope the freight doesn’t kill me. I bought the Romance stove and really like it. It’s the Svea 123 of alcohol stoves.
Yep, it was innovative...when he designed and introduced them on youtube 10 years ago. I'd not categorize this goshawk as innovative. I believe Goshawk even mentions in their stove design that it's an 'improved' Toaks.
@@djp921 I see something different in alcohol stoves, the Czech mad *EMO Outdoor + ORIGAMI* (stand), that allow adjust the flame, allegedly from 25 to 100%. The stove seems a capillarity side burner. Is made from two soda cans, seems that with the inside can worked by molding socket, and the external have (decorative) LASER made logo. The novelty is the adjustable height disk in the ORIGAMI pot stand that allow reduce the flame "on the fly". Check at:
Great video. The main issue I have with the stove are the pot stand legs which would be very easy to bend/break. It looks like the assembled stove will fit inside a 650/700ml titanium mug which would be one way of safely carrying it, but then no room for a smaller mug. Two obvious stoves to compare it with are the X-Boil burner and pot stand, and the Toaks siphon stove and pot stand. The toaks setup is heavier (76g) but more compact and easier to stow away, the pot stand fits between two nested titanium mugs and the burner takes up very little room in the smaller mug. The X-boil setup (64g) is even more compact, the pot stand also fits between nested mugs and the burner probably takes up even less space than the Toaks burner. Maybe this calls for an ultralight stove comparison.
I also have the bigger version but I don’t use it anymore. Why not? Because it’s a PIA. It’s actually pretty powerful and consumes alcohol faster than Steve McQueen. Even that I could forgive but having no lid is simply not good enough. The quality is excellent though. One of the points of alcohol stoves is that they cook slowly at lower temperatures and when using titanium cookware that shouldn’t be overlooked.
Happy with Goshawk. I purchased the Pioneer Pro with their new kettle 2.0 The handle on the new kettle had (really) bad welds on the retaining rings (that keep the handle on the kettle). The tiny rings will fall off and disappear in the outdoors. They're a good company, said they've stopped selling the kettle until the defect has been fixed. Promised to send me a replacement kettle. Just FYI if anyone was wondering why the full kit isn't for sale currently.
I own a titanium Goshawlk woodgas stove ( eddy 205 pioneer pro ) since 2 years. It is great. Not perfect, since it drops burning ashes on the ground below it. But by far my favorite light weight wood stove. If I'm not mistaken I first saw it in a review here on this channel.
If you flip the Bush Buddy Mini upside down, set the Toaks capillary stove on the fire screen and put on the Bush Buddy pot stand,, you have a tiny wood stove with a nice alcohol stove backup. The Goshawk burner should work just as well.
Nice looking stove Ernie,but it looks a little fragile and the fact that you felt it was necessary to mention that, gives me pause. I think I’ll stick to my tried and true Trangia Spirit burner and Trangia cook systems ( Model 27-3’s , Model 28 Mini Trangia) for alcohol. For iso-propane/butane, my Soto Wind Master/Amicus with Soto Navigator cook set or for both alcohol and canister-The Titanium Firebox Gen 2 Nano Firebox . Thanks for all the helpful reviews over the years!
DAMN YOU ERNIE!!! I swore that I would say No to more alcohol stoves.... Great stove AND great price. And does it fit in the Sterno Inferno where my Trangia lives?
I've just ordered one of these, great video thanks. As it doesn't have a fuel sealing lid I'm looking forward to seeing how my UK/US maths conversion works out in calculating exactly how much bioethanol to put in this to boil one UK cup of water😄
I find that with any system if the windshield surrounds the pot, efficiency goes through the roof (I'm thinking caldera cone, speedster stove combined etc). Even if you don't want to buy one of these, it's so easy to make a similar system at home with minimal burner, aluminium foil etc that I don't really see the point of systems like this goshawk any more. They seem to be innovating along a pathway that's already a dead-end.
I have the Goshawk Era burner and it’s my favourite piece of kit to use in -30.C here. I made a stand for it using an MSR metal gas canister stand and getting an old gas cannister and cutting the bottom and making a ring that the ERA burner sits in. The ring slots into the gas cannister stand. So lightweight and now very stable. Love Goshawk products!
Thanks. I had considered using the plastic fold up gas canister stand to hold smallish diameter burners/stoves. I don’t like setting small stoves directly on uneven ground.
would really like to see how the stoves you talk about being used in cooking, extending the video, but at least we will know for certain if the stove will work for us. Love the videos Ernie, also is it the blue flame or the orange flame that causes carbon monoxide for if you use one of these in a tent, say a four or six man tent.
What are you using for fuel (grain alcohol , rubbing alcohol , denatured alcohol , heet ) ? Some people use heet but others have claimed possible health risks from using heet (or even denatured alcohol) as a fuel especially in an enclosed enviroment like a tent ? Would like to know your thoughts on the subject . Thanks
Another great review Ernie! 👍One con I thought for sure you would mention is there's no lid, so you would have to figure out or carry a funnel or something to pour the unspent fuel back into your fuel container. Unless I missed something which, at my age, is certainly possible. 😉
The flame jet design and manufacture on this siphon stove is currently the best for practical outdoors use - it’s more wind resistant. I disagree with the channel though - (1) it is robust. Non need for protection. It’s quite solid. Don’t worry. (2) the biggest con wasn’t mentioned - if you assemble it in the stand you CANNOT put it out once your pot boils. The stands are taller than most mugs and pots. And, you can’t remove the collar or lift it out while the flames are burning. It’s a snug fit. Any attempt usually ends is a complete fuel spill. BUT!! Not all is lost. This stove is nearly as effective used without the added pot stand and collar. Just add an external wind screen (cheap pie tin aluminium or Ti foil) and add a set of Ti X bars for a pot stand and you can then use. It to boil, and put it out easily with your mug/pot after use.
What is your favorite Goshawk Stove? I watched another vid of yours last night on one that had its pot support legs built into the wind screen. I thought it was the bomb! This one seems like a step backwards. Your thoughts are very much appreciated!
Have you heard about the X-Boil stove, made in Germany? I’d love to hear what you think about it. I’ve bought one here in the UK - not used it yet but I like everything else about it. Keep up the good work. I’m sure all your viewers appreciate your efforts to provide the best information on kit.
I like alcohol stoves over the others, quiet, fast or slow as you like. But not just to boil water for dehidrated food (no way to get these down here), but to coock real meal. With some kind of control, simmer to full power when it's needed. Are you really from Louisiana? Then you've got to know what the word cooking means... By the way, suscribed and lurking for the perfect alcohol stove from Uruguay...
👍👍👍 A very nice setup .. although, the lack of a 'simmer capacity' makes it in my opinion, just another 'water boiler'. The Trangia. Similar to the 1968 VW Beetle that I once had and now regret that I ever sold, I like 'old stuff' .. tried and tested. At my age, I'm long past 'how far, how fast', so 'ultra-light' does not rate as a priority. A good share though .. thanks. I'm sure that there are those who will benefit from it .. although Beetles are nice 😏. Take care ..
You stove was unstable and top heavy. That's not good. The flame pattern was rather neat and it got going really quickly. Given a bigger base, would be a great stove. As a Trangia killer? Not unless it comes with a similarly stable base and pot set.
One thing IS FOR SURE…this company is super slack on keeping anything stock !! Looked at their site and eBay store every week for months and always sold out of just about every stove you can any from them! And not selling that fast,just don’t produce and or kee things stocked as they should! Lame and not worth the effort for what it’s worth when plenty of other options are just as good if not better and less money! Slack attitude for a company by any means!👎
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How else would we even know about these innovative stoves if not for Ernie’s reviews?!
We have the Internet !
Eg Read the posts on bushwalking forums
Good review of a nice little innovative stove.👍
As for being a 'Trangia killer'...no!
Trangia have been making their spirit burner since 1951 and it still sells in huge numbers today.
I got my first one in 1972 and still love them today.
Until Goshawk produce a full stormproof cookset to go with this stove it will never compete with Trangia here in the UK with our crappy and changeable weather.
If they made it so it would fit in a Trangia system then it might be a winner.
Having said all that, I'll probably buy one to add to my collection. 😄
Lovin’ mine Ernie, it’s a great performer, punching well above its weight. Cheers from Grampian, Scotland 🖐🏻
I built an alcohol stove with an old Daisy pellet can I had laying around . I used some welders' carbon felt instead of fiberglass to absorb the liquid, no spills, some screening from a tea leaf strainer to hold the felt in place. It holds 2 oz. or 60 ml of alcohol and with 1 oz of fuel will burn over 15 minutes.
I use a Zen Camps wind screen/burner that works with alcohol or solid fuel and, though not designed that way, have used a small twig fire inside. I like things that can work with multiple options.
At 76 years old, I like things that work well rather than being the lightest thing in the world. Function over form as it were.
58 degree temp and water no other windscreen
1 oz, 30 ml heet
8 min, too perfect coffee/tea temp
9 minutes to 212 degrees
Flame out at 16min 45 sec
👍👍👍 .. right on!
From a 'youngster' (YOB 1950) 😊.
I have filled the majority of the multitude of my 'home-grown' alcohol burners with Glass / Ceramic Wool and/or Carbon Felt, including my Trangia Burner an have never looked back.
Alcohol Burners, Pot Stands and Wind Screens. There are enough discarded Aluminium Energy Drink Cans, Pie Trays, Tuna / Pilchard Cans and Stainless Steel Bicycle Spokes out there to keep me and more, in Burners, Pot Stands and Wind Screens until the end of time.
Nice and efficient stove Ernie, thanks for doing all the ‘hard yards’ for us - looks like you got decent value for money this time! 🏴
If I didn't already own the Toaks titanium siphon stove, I would definitely pick this one up.
That’s exactly what I was thinking
i have this stove and love it ! i also have the big one HA-7075, very effective stoves and it's so much better to see theses perfectly inclined jets! thx for the vid
Which one do you like best?
@@terryfinley7760 this one preheats super fast and so is more efficient for heating small quantities. imo, thin and small capillary stoves for small cups, biggerstoves for larger cups. so it depends on what you want to heat/cook. @PaleoHikerMD What do you think? i had fantastic boil times for just one cup with home made capillary stoves (toak's style)of just 6 grammes
Ernie is the king on stove knowledge i try not to miss a review and often find myself going back to watch older reviews as well
I like it and the price is fine. I hope the freight doesn’t kill me.
I bought the Romance stove and really like it. It’s the Svea 123 of alcohol stoves.
Excellent design, outstanding price.
This is the reason I watch your channel; waiting for this vid.
Another great stove review by the best reviewer out there!
Thanks Ernie!
Design looks Tetkoba's CHS (Capillarity Hope Stove DIY).
Yep, it was innovative...when he designed and introduced them on youtube 10 years ago. I'd not categorize this goshawk as innovative. I believe Goshawk even mentions in their stove design that it's an 'improved' Toaks.
@@djp921 I see something different in alcohol stoves, the Czech mad *EMO Outdoor + ORIGAMI* (stand), that allow adjust the flame, allegedly from 25 to 100%.
The stove seems a capillarity side burner. Is made from two soda cans, seems that with the inside can worked by molding socket, and the external have (decorative) LASER made logo.
The novelty is the adjustable height disk in the ORIGAMI pot stand that allow reduce the flame "on the fly".
Check at:
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Nice video, for me I would miss my snuff cap. But the flame pattern is enchanting to watch!
Great video. The main issue I have with the stove are the pot stand legs which would be very easy to bend/break. It looks like the assembled stove will fit inside a 650/700ml titanium mug which would be one way of safely carrying it, but then no room for a smaller mug. Two obvious stoves to compare it with are the X-Boil burner and pot stand, and the Toaks siphon stove and pot stand. The toaks setup is heavier (76g) but more compact and easier to stow away, the pot stand fits between two nested titanium mugs and the burner takes up very little room in the smaller mug. The X-boil setup (64g) is even more compact, the pot stand also fits between nested mugs and the burner probably takes up even less space than the Toaks burner. Maybe this calls for an ultralight stove comparison.
Great review ! If I had to choose between the Goshawk Capillary stove and the X-Boil stove,I'd purchase the Goshawk Stove .
Awesome video brother. Thanks for sharing 👍
Great Great Great video Ernie 👍
I also have the bigger version but I don’t use it anymore. Why not? Because it’s a PIA. It’s actually pretty powerful and consumes alcohol faster than Steve McQueen. Even that I could forgive but having no lid is simply not good enough. The quality is excellent though. One of the points of alcohol stoves is that they cook slowly at lower temperatures and when using titanium cookware that shouldn’t be overlooked.
Love the vid my friend. Will be purchasing one of these!!!!
Happy with Goshawk. I purchased the Pioneer Pro with their new kettle 2.0
The handle on the new kettle had (really) bad welds on the retaining rings (that keep the handle on the kettle). The tiny rings will fall off and disappear in the outdoors.
They're a good company, said they've stopped selling the kettle until the defect has been fixed. Promised to send me a replacement kettle.
Just FYI if anyone was wondering why the full kit isn't for sale currently.
I own a titanium Goshawlk woodgas stove ( eddy 205 pioneer pro ) since 2 years. It is great. Not perfect, since it drops burning ashes on the ground below it. But by far my favorite light weight wood stove.
If I'm not mistaken I first saw it in a review here on this channel.
It's a work of art. It boils water. I want it.
Great looking stove ❤
If you flip the Bush Buddy Mini upside down, set the Toaks capillary stove on the fire screen and put on the Bush Buddy pot stand,, you have a tiny wood stove with a nice alcohol stove backup. The Goshawk burner should work just as well.
Nice to see correct pronunciation of the brand's name.
Ive heard it referred to as 'go-shawk' and 'goose-hawk'.
Thanks for the review.
Nothing beats the original……..😉😘 I wonder if the Evernew cross stands would work?
Thumbs up as always. Your reviews are always good. Thanks
Thanks Doc.
Nice looking stove Ernie,but it looks a little fragile and the fact that you felt it was necessary to mention that, gives me pause. I think I’ll stick to my tried and true Trangia Spirit burner and Trangia cook systems ( Model 27-3’s , Model 28 Mini Trangia) for alcohol. For iso-propane/butane, my Soto Wind Master/Amicus with Soto Navigator cook set or for both alcohol and canister-The Titanium Firebox Gen 2 Nano Firebox . Thanks for all the helpful reviews over the years!
Thanks! Can't wait for the next one. :D
Con = no sealed lid so you can transport with alcohol fuel in it. Need to carry fuel separately
Goshawk's stuff is awesome. Great review again!
DAMN YOU ERNIE!!! I swore that I would say No to more alcohol stoves.... Great stove AND great price. And does it fit in the Sterno Inferno where my Trangia lives?
Looks a nice burner / stove, looks similar to my go to which is the Toaks.
Another good review. Thanks for this info.
Personally I prefer the Toaks version of this stove type, which I bought after your review and actually bring along more often than my Trangia
Cool thanks mate
Thanks for the honest review and sharing brother
I've just ordered one of these, great video thanks. As it doesn't have a fuel sealing lid I'm looking forward to seeing how my UK/US maths conversion works out in calculating exactly how much bioethanol to put in this to boil one UK cup of water😄
I find that with any system if the windshield surrounds the pot, efficiency goes through the roof (I'm thinking caldera cone, speedster stove combined etc). Even if you don't want to buy one of these, it's so easy to make a similar system at home with minimal burner, aluminium foil etc that I don't really see the point of systems like this goshawk any more. They seem to be innovating along a pathway that's already a dead-end.
i like how it looks like a rocket engine in its stand.
I have the Goshawk Era burner and it’s my favourite piece of kit to use in -30.C here.
I made a stand for it using an MSR metal gas canister stand and getting an old gas cannister and cutting the bottom and making a ring that the ERA burner sits in. The ring slots into the gas cannister stand. So lightweight and now very stable.
Love Goshawk products!
Thanks. I had considered using the plastic fold up gas canister stand to hold smallish diameter burners/stoves.
I don’t like setting small stoves directly on uneven ground.
Great video! That stand doesn’t look very stable, but the stove looks awsome!
Neat!
would really like to see how the stoves you talk about being used in cooking, extending the video, but at least we will know for certain if the stove will work for us. Love the videos Ernie, also is it the blue flame or the orange flame that causes carbon monoxide for if you use one of these in a tent, say a four or six man tent.
What are you using for fuel (grain alcohol , rubbing alcohol , denatured alcohol , heet ) ? Some people use heet but others have claimed possible health risks from using heet (or even denatured alcohol) as a fuel especially in an enclosed enviroment like a tent ? Would like to know your thoughts on the subject . Thanks
I have this stove. I love it. I’m in Australia and I use metho
If it wasn’t for tektoba I’d be all over this brand. The pot stand and windshield are so nice?
Another great review Ernie! 👍One con I thought for sure you would mention is there's no lid, so you would have to figure out or carry a funnel or something to pour the unspent fuel back into your fuel container. Unless I missed something which, at my age, is certainly possible. 😉
The flame jet design and manufacture on this siphon stove is currently the best for practical outdoors use - it’s more wind resistant.
I disagree with the channel though -
(1) it is robust. Non need for protection. It’s quite solid. Don’t worry.
(2) the biggest con wasn’t mentioned - if you assemble it in the stand you CANNOT put it out once your pot boils. The stands are taller than most mugs and pots. And, you can’t remove the collar or lift it out while the flames are burning. It’s a snug fit. Any attempt usually ends is a complete fuel spill.
BUT!! Not all is lost. This stove is nearly as effective used without the added pot stand and collar. Just add an external wind screen (cheap pie tin aluminium or Ti foil) and add a set of Ti X bars for a pot stand and you can then use. It to boil, and put it out easily with your mug/pot after use.
Slick little stove...but the stand really should be a 3-leg design instead of 4-leg.
Will the Toaks siphon stove fit in the stand?
If they are awesome then why do they keep making new ones? Are they improving the other stoves?
What is your favorite Goshawk Stove?
I watched another vid of yours last night on one that had its pot support legs built into the wind screen. I thought it was the bomb! This one seems like a step backwards. Your thoughts are very much appreciated!
Will it hold an iron skillet?
Looks awesome but its not an xboil....
Have you heard about the X-Boil stove, made in Germany? I’d love to hear what you think about it. I’ve bought one here in the UK - not used it yet but I like everything else about it. Keep up the good work. I’m sure all your viewers appreciate your efforts to provide the best information on kit.
How long to boil without the windscreen ??
Looks like more of a Toaks killer really. And my big gripe with Goshawk is no stateside supplier.
The stand looks a bit questionable. Can you test other sturdier stands that might work well with this stove?
I like alcohol stoves over the others, quiet, fast or slow as you like. But not just to boil water for dehidrated food (no way to get these down here), but to coock real meal. With some kind of control, simmer to full power when it's needed. Are you really from Louisiana? Then you've got to know what the word cooking means... By the way, suscribed and lurking for the perfect alcohol stove from Uruguay...
goshawk op100 pls
Jag är också köks nerd.❤❤❤❤
Is the MD referring to Maryland? Or to your day job?
He is a doctor. A very good doctor
@@choossuck7653And he prescribes stoves.
Is it lightweight? Yes. Does it burn alcohol? Yes. Will I buy it and throw away my Trangia? No.
👍👍👍
A very nice setup .. although, the lack of a 'simmer capacity' makes it in my opinion, just another 'water boiler'.
The Trangia. Similar to the 1968 VW Beetle that I once had and now regret that I ever sold, I like 'old stuff' .. tried and tested.
At my age, I'm long past 'how far, how fast', so 'ultra-light' does not rate as a priority.
A good share though .. thanks. I'm sure that there are those who will benefit from it .. although Beetles are nice 😏.
Take care ..
is it cool, absolutely, but would I give up my Trangia, mini or triangle? no. So Trangia killer, definitely not, bit of a provocative title really😊
You stove was unstable and top heavy. That's not good. The flame pattern was rather neat and it got going really quickly. Given a bigger base, would be a great stove. As a Trangia killer? Not unless it comes with a similarly stable base and pot set.
5 min to boil not impressed!
One thing IS FOR SURE…this company is super slack on keeping anything stock !! Looked at their site and eBay store every week for months and always sold out of just about every stove you can any from them! And not selling that fast,just don’t produce and or kee things stocked as they should! Lame and not worth the effort for what it’s worth when plenty of other options are just as good if not better and less money! Slack attitude for a company by any means!👎
They stopped selling their new kettle because I reported a defect in the handle.
To flimsy, to many pieces
why should we trust a review from a man who doesn't use the items correctly.... you can't install a wind shield.... what good are your opinions to me?