The biggest dam removal project ever in the United States
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- I live in southern Oregon. A few miles south of me, the Klamath River flows across marshes, canyons, and through 6 dams used for hydroelectric power and irrigation before emptying into the Pacific Ocean. Four of the dams are slated to be removed in 2023 and 2024 as the largest dam removal project ever in the United States. The Klamath River will once again flow mostly unhindered to the Pacific Ocean and open up more spawning grounds for salmon and anadromous steelhead trout.
I went on a day trip with friends, and friends-of-friends, to explore the dammed upper reaches of the Klamath River and to imagine what the area will look like after the dams are removed and the riverine riparian habitat is restored. Come join us on this little adventure.
I live in Klamath Falls. This was a wonderful video! Thanks so much for sharing.
Looks like a beautiful place. Nice video. It's going to be interesting to see how things go.
Hoping the fish will return. 🎣
You and the other residents of that area benefit from the consistant source of recreation.electricity, irrigation and western wildfire fighting water. You will not benefit from a few extra fish.
Wow thanks
Great video! Been fishing the Klamath for years. So looking forward to freeing the river! Let's hope for the return of anadromous fish to the upper watershed!
Very interesting! I appreciate the effort. 👍
Thx for sharing and all the facts, history details. I went to college in K-Falls back in the late 80's and used to fish in the Klamath River and Lake. Caught a 5lb trout near Keno. Great mc ride from K-Falls to Ashland on Hwy 66...
Great news for rivers, economy and all peoples
Historicqlly, dam removals go excellent. Rivers are restored. Fish return. Wildlife return. The evironmemt returns to the healthy one it was before. It tells us we need to comtinue to remove dams an set up alternative functions like solar and wind farms for energy and water storage systems for agriculture. There are better options.
Very cool video/info!
Interesting story….nicely presented.
Very interesting.
Those who feel the loss of the dam recreation areas, may not have realized that the water impoundment created very toxic conditions in the water for fish, people, and other life.
Thanks for this informative documentary from your home turf. (I'm reminded of the expressions: "Man plans and God laughs." and "Mother nature always wins.")
it's going to be very interesting to see 10 yrs. from now, if these removals will be wise decisions.
This sounds well and good but what about electricity and water for irrigation... WTF
Only water pulled for irrigation is the grass farmers around Klamath Lake.
There's documentary's about that war going on in some utube videos.
Some grass cattle being raised around Horn Brook, but not a huge infrastructure. People living in that area have it tough. High mountain type desert. Cows and grass.
so much for farms? get the water to the ocean as fast as possible.
Unfortunately, after researching the KRRC and their Board of Directors, I can't help thinking that the motivation for removing these dams runs far deeper than the "still waters" of the river.
Care to expand on that? Just curious what direction you found it headed.
@@bobrich1950 Simply said. "I can't help thinking". Sometimes out loud.
so
KRRC’s work is funded by PacifiCorp customer surcharges and California Proposition 1 water bond funds. We're paying to remove power resources which will lead to higher cost. Politically expedient, but counter intuitive.
I Live in Hornbrook!
I bet you won't see Fishing Here for decades. 😢
I guess they refer to this as deindustrialization.
By only removing 4 of the 6 dams it doesn't seem like water quality will change much. We will get better fish passage but not sure if river conditions will improve or not.
You’ll give Nat Geo a run for their money. 😀
Where’s your bike? You are still riding, right? This was very interesting content for me since I live in NorCal.
I used to live in the area serviced by the power produced from these dams. The cost of taking them out is going to take a very long time for the value of the fishery to be cost effective. That doesn't matter, politics and environmentalism was eventually going to win out and cost is not a consideration. It would have been interesting to get some details on who the private sources of revenue are going to be. The video was great, but there is a lot unsaid.
This is such a short sighted statement. The cost of this entire removal project pales in comparison to the damage done to the environment and fishery economy by these dams, not to mention the devastating impact to the Native tribes for the past century.
@@FlyFish4Thinkersgood statement from someone that never visited this area.
Don’t assume, it makes you look stupid.
@@FlyFish4Thinkers assuming gets you to tell the truth.
But in your situation, maybe not.
Well done on the video and narrating! This is all pretty country and some might say 'enhanced' by the dams because of the developed recreation sites, but I certainly understand the priority of returning the river to a much more natural state! Fun looking group....cheers!
No one enjoys a beautiful river more than this old guy... But I can't help but wonder. In an area so populated as the West Coast with a constant need for electrical power, when the dams are gone, how will that power be replaced. Coal, oil or gas fired? Definitely not. Nukes would be a good choice, but for the areas seismic potential which makes them a non-starter. Glad I'm in the midwest.
Well environmental protection does not include human comfort. The fact is. People should not be living in the density levels they do in the desert. Why is agriculture allowed in the desert?? Just off the north east corner of the lake bed in Edward's AFB there are alfalfa farms. With center pivot irrigation. That alfalfa is NOT for sale to anyone in the US. Is is exclusively exported to mainly Japan. How much water do you think it takes to grow alfalfa is a very dry desert?? It's poor management and special privileges that have and will hurt people. Opening up a river is probably not going to be a big deal.
According to Wikipedia the Klamath dams combined have a maximum output of 169 Mw. California has 41,000 Mw of solar installed, and more being installed. I think we can make up for taking the dams off line.
Those dams old and obsolete. Didn't make much power in the first place.
Step one, spend lots of money to remove the dams and power plants that work 24/7.
Step two, build solar and wind farms to replace the loss of power generation.
Step three, do a study find out how to provide power when the sun sets and the wind isn't blowing.
Step four, build new dams and power plants.
Step hindsight, design and build workable fish ladders and save millions of dollars on the unworkable new green deal.
Yep. so foreseeable. Yet here we are spending millions to removing things we paid millions for, and in need. of. All removed for political expediancy's sake. Amazing.
Step 5. Education and reward home owners for conserving power and using green solutions.
Didn't they have a huge fire in northern California a few years back? And the area is known for drought. Shouldn't we be holding the water back instead of letting it flow out of the reservoirs?
The water was never used to fight fires or for irrigation. Only for electricity.There are other reservoirs nearby used for irrigation and plenty of water for .fire as needed. Most water for fire fighting contains a retardant that is mixed at the air base and water pumped to the air base.
Shear lunicy to be destroying these dams.
Using some big words there steve
@@mikeprice4103 don’t be bashful, say what you mean
unbelievable idiiocy to remove our dams we paid for and ever so in more need of.
Thank goodness for common sense.
EV sales are going to collapse so no problem removing these HE dams. Drill baby, drill.
And one day, fish baby fish.
YEAH WHY WOULD YOU NEED ELECTRICITY THESE DAYS? JUST BUILD SOME MORE WINDMILLS
Oh no! That would be disturbing the wind!
Interesting stuff. Maybe we can convince @blancolirio to do a before and after fly by.
Good idea. Juan would enjoy it I'm sure.
Good to seeing it go back to Mother Nature. All this exploitation of everything. Eventually volcano’s and earthquakes would take them out
Yeah wait til there's another down water year and that river slows to a trickle. Then a fire comes roaring through there and there's nowhere for the helos to dip into to help douse the flames. And what about all that sediment that will be released? Seems like a colossally stupid idea. But hey, greenies gonna green.
As previously askedHow many Megawatts of electric generating capacity are being removed?
How much green house gas will be created by the oil or coal used to replace this electricity?
Next time it would be fun if you did the trip in electric vehicles.
Be fun to go Salmon fishing upstream too.
@@mikeprice4103by the time salmon get this high up on the Klamath, they are very dark fish.
There's pictures of salmon entering the hatchery at iron gate, you can see them on videos.
Some of the darkest salmon I've ever seen.
another big mistake - especially with all this EV recharging.
Dams were silted up. Owners couldn’t afford to meet federal, state requirements to prevent failure which would have resulted in catastrophic failure and deaths downstream. Nothing to do with EVs….as a Brit will just say the dams were fucked.
In my long career I have worked on the design and construction of Hydroelectric Dams.
You did not mention how many Megawatts of electric generating capacity are being removed, and how much green house gas will be created by the oil or coal used to replace this electric capacity.
Removing Hydroelectric dams is the most crazy ‘ woke’ thing I ever heard, and the most environmentally stupid thing ever.
It’s over the top.
You only spewed "woke" once? Come on ed your usually good for at least 6-9 "wokes" in a comment.
@@mikeprice4103 Mike
I ‘ll try harder
@@mikeprice4103 Personal attacks are not arguments. Please reply to @Edwardfinn' points. Or are you conceding?
@@abcsandovalnobody that says woke has a good faith argument. Maybe the power company should have actually built fish passage instead of crying that it cost too much.
I can understand your response. It's a hit on your employment.
No truck driver wants AI to be driving trucks either.
Dams, damn things are good and bad.
Shouldn't be built to make animals go extinct. Need more for thought.
Why is the Topey' s dam being removed? there is an existing fish bypass already there you can see it. Many dam removals are needed do to age, lack of generating ability lack of fish bypass. But to treat dam removal as a magical solution to salmon turn is nieve. There problems out in the Pacific Ocean that doesn't receive any play time on socical media or youtube. That is the over fishing of the salmon and other fish off the coast out side territorial water's by countries like China and other's ignoring rules and limit's. But you can't just drive there to make a video. I not knocking your video I'am how ever knocking certain so called solution's to a problem that disregard's the total scope of the problem. Just as in the Climate Change Cult, refusing to be realistic on the 0 carbon no fossil fuel policies passed by federal and state government's like my State of Washington has done. While other nation's do not participate in the same radical view and direction we are forced to take and I mean FORCED. So that the greatest country in the world by no fault of our own. Other than coming to the aid of others in two world war's and managed to better it's by doing so. Has part of it's population deciding that we are the world evil, and not big brother finacially and security providing to most the rest of the world the United States has becomed. Inovation and will built this our country to it's present state we didn't steal like China is doing daily to us right now. We invented designed built the economy with our mind's and hand's for everyone. Some nation state's chose not to allow their population to grow build up their futures.So they decide to war with their neighbor's and that will cause us in some way to get involved are we the bad guy?........Kenneth L Boren.......................