EU4 - What if Every Religion Was a Nation in 1444?
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In this video titled EU4 - What if Every Religion Was a Nation in 1444? we take a look at what would happen if every religion was a nation in 1444 / what if every religion was a nation at the start of EU4. In this video I made every single religion into one single nation, basically I gave every province that has a certain faith into one nation. This has been my most requested video by far so I hope you guys enjoy it. Some nations that are featured in this video include Byzantium, The Papal States, France, The Ottomans, Brandenburg, Sweden, England, Persia, Bharat, Siam, Japan and more! As you can probably guess this scenario resulted in some pretty funny shenanigans. Obviously you would expect that the nations with the richest faiths or highest developed provinces would dominate, but did it really turn out that way? This whole run was controlled by the AI only without my interference and it yielded some pretty interesting results to be honest. So, after watching this video you will know what would happen if every religion was a nation in 1444 in Europa Universalis 4. What is the next "What if" scenario that I should do? Leave a comment below! The save file is available for all Tier 1 and above RUclips members in the save-games Discord channel.
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I really would like to see a "what if every sub culture group was a nation"
What if modern country is a nation
how about, birth place of institution give +100 adm/dip/mil for 20 year?
maybe holy site in asia too?
What if every state was a country 😬
What if every Government was a nation.
Bohemia be like: "I've mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still... that I become invisible to the eye..." *Procedes to not lose any province for ~400 years*
Surprised me tbh
Nobody wants to be defenestrated(violently thrown out of the window) by Hussites.
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 they went catholic though
@@ihatebritain3942*Sad Ján Hus noises*
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 Would the opposite to be fenestrated?
The pope setting up Catholic theocracies in Morocco and Tunis both with a leader called Muhammad is such a power move
Chad Pope right there
Average Islam fan
Average Catholic enjoyer
@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 unbased moment
@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 Based
@@whatishesaying4708 found average Muslim fan
i was like why would he give portugal the animists
Lmao
I love how Byzantium and Bharat are playing "WIDE"
Virgin wide Putin vs chad wide Byzantium and bharat
if i were byzantium I would focus all my troops into siberia and smash into siberia with everything i got
The British: *O M E G A*
I think the issue with the Mandate of Heaven is that the Emperor of China can’t get many tributaries.
Yeah pretty much
They also would be hit with the unguarded nomadic frontier right at the start of the game.
Ireland would like to speak to you about the Anglican faith
Scotland's Kirk ain't happy either.
Man, both Ireland and Scotland were b...tches of GB for long period of time so everything is fair
@@secretsecret1713 Scotland actually successfully fought off many English invasions and the times that they were conquered they eventually re-won their independence every time until finally Great Britain was created by THEIR King James the 6th of Scotland taking the English throne as James the 1st of a United Kingdom. But yeah England has always dominated the British isles just not as easily as one would think.
Neither Scotland or Ireland would exist if it wasn’t for England anyway, both y’all just handover everything to Europe without a single punch thrown
@@keyakaabag6017 get educated on a subject before spouting nonsense lmao, Ireland and Scotland existed before England
Brandenburg: *exists*
Brandenburg’s neighbors: _it’s free real estate_
Then they got PUd lol
@@TheRedHawk they should have been prussia.. as you need to be reformed/protestant in order to form it.
Brandenburg *exists*
Byzantium: no
Alright, I’ll be honest, started the video thinking “Well, the Ottomans are gonna steamroll everyone”.
Boy was I wrong!
Same lol
they were basically at war with every powerful country in the game 😂
The problem with the Ottomans is that they border basically everyone in the Old World so everyone has claims on them.
Lol, I wrote nearly the same comment just before seeing yours. The Ottomans looked really strong to me, especially because Europe was divided in the different branches of Christianity. I didn't thought Byzantium would last till the end, let alone becoming so strong.
How much op would the kingdom of God without the heretic variants...
@UCSRjWr3pAEaBvi0u6bdexTw yeah, I forgot about that video. It's seems that big empire never get the conqueror ruler and ai is pretty bad in managing it's economy
It be the roman empire before the vandals did their crap in africa
How much would Ortodox Byzantium be without "Heretic variants"?
@@majormarketing6552 Romans, before the split, were all pretty much Ortodox.
@@abhabh6896 larper lolz. Rather orthodox were catholic
Given Britains comparatively low dev start, that was impressive
Yeah they really took off in the late mid game
yeah, but they are so fking safe that it was just a matter of time until they got strong enough to torture some indigenous people
just saying, they have some history in doing that
Not really that impressive. Was one of the safest starts and they picked on the weakest nations (ai natives that probably lacked institutions and hadn't reformed inti yet).
bharat had amazing borders at the end wow im suprised
Yeah they did really well
1742: France has revolution, GB colonizing and Japan going for manchuria. I guess someone tried to correct history, though timing is off for some of them.
Also bohemia doing nothing other than switch religion, sad.
I was expecting kingdom of god to get split between the other european nations and persia to be absorbed by the ottos, pretty interesting what happened xd
don't they have a huge bonus because they are the final catholic nation?
maybe the Califa would have been better
What if every religion group was a nation
that would be every christian and muslim country vs the rest, too op
@@OmarSlloum Exactly that's what I want
Christian would be incredibly op, islam is almost completely uniform in the 1444 start date so the ottomans are kind of a sneak peak as to what would probably happen, but the kingdom of god was pretty op already, with all the broadly protestant, orthodox and norse counties they would kick ass hard
Someone declares war on Potiguara: Potiguara in South America that no one can besiege in the start: Laughs
They also can't defend their territory in the old world so the enemies just had to wait on ticking warscore. Easy win.
I love how persia use good alliances to survive and expand like this💚
Persia always does pretty well in these videos
They have op admin and military ideas
Persia with the power moves
Why is it, that Ming always collapses early for ya? For me, they collapse late or not at all, especially if I'm playing in that area.
I have the same but i don't have mandate of heaven
@@arkadiuszrenc1498 I have Mandate of Heaven.
Ming collapse because of Empire of China mechanic. It weaken nations.
Ming can't get any Tributaries so they get super bad maluses
@@gamerin4d yeah its so unfair
24:20 when the Ottomans are sus 😳
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Colonizing all the provinces must've been a pain
@@TheRedHawk wow, hope you made a save file, so you never have to do that again
@@TheRedHawk cant you use mod for unlimited custom nation points and create the nations that way?
@@TheRedHawk i am pretty sure you could make a script to do that ( not that I know how THAT work)
Sad to see you forgot about Sikhism. Was hoping to see them win hahaha
Why ?? Forget about those pagans. Long live Christiandom
@@SimpleMinded221 Inshallah you will see the truth of Allahs light
@Teapoid who is sky fire god
@@mohdsuhail9586 Hindu fire god is Agni
@@SimpleMinded221 username checks out
Why not give Prussia/Sweden territories protestant, Norway/Denmark norse, and the Dutch/Swiss reformed? I think it would be a bit more accurate for religion as France was pretty damn Catholic outside of the wars of religion
He probably thought it would make Catholic too OP to have France on top of everything else they already had.
The reformation gang wouldn't even be a challenge for the Catholic hyperpower, with the might of their fully aemed and operational counter-reformation
8:37 not only is Potiguara Confucian, they have the original Ottoman (Osmanoglu) dynasty on the throne
I think the ottomans are sus.
Very cool concept!! I feel like Reformed should have been The Netherlands.
Edit: Confucianist Osmanoglu Portugara. Talk about maximum cursedness. :D
That was pretty cursed lmao
Why put centers of reformation? If you already divided them out? Why not just leave them catholic and let the reformation happen naturally?
Good question! They spawned by themselves after I created the nations!
@@TheRedHawk I see. Thank you for taking the time to clarify.
I liked your style, with the detailed periodic updates.
This channel is amazing. It is so underrated and I hope you get the recognition you clearly deserve. Keep up the good work these what if games are AWESOME
Thanks a ton! I appreciate the kind words it means a lot!
Potiguara losing to Bharat, while being Confucian and having Osmanoglu as their dinasty is one of the most cursed thing I can possibly lie my eyes on
Catholic Morocco is pretty cursed not gonna lie
As a Catholic, I was wishing for a Papal Victor the whole game. I am glad it won, haha.
I like your explaination. I have watched no voice EU4 videos and it was boring. Thank you.
A Norse Scandinavia in 1444 made me smile.
would be nice to see other formables get a chance as well, such as ilkhanate instead of persia or rum instead of otto, great video!
watching this after a year and i can say your voice and vibe has changed a lot
What if every trade good was a nation in 1444?
That will be a lot of border gore
@@milantoth6246 umm, for a bunch of map staring people, I can assure you that's why we are here
100% inflation for gold nation
@@damianmares5338 I’ve never been so offended by something i 100% agree with
love how byzantium was basically on lifesupport by the kingdom of god
What if every formable existed at 1444?
- What if every production type was a nation in 1444?
- What if the Ottomans was a nation in 1444?
Ming representing the confusion religion and Dahomey representing the fetish religion. This is weird
when you do these strange games; it would be nice if you also showed which trades routes are the biggest and how much; I love to see trade effects
2:55 - Here we have a demonstration for why a Sunni One Faith is by far the easiest to do, just look at 3k+ dev with -2 conversion strength lol.
You are condemned to eternal suffering for portraying Ireland as anglican
what if every tech group was a nation
Western power
European supremacy be like
In most of my games, ming just sits idle and grows economically and militairily. On occasion they colonize and beyond that, they just sit there and do nothing. They don't explode into dozens of nations etc... I've seen so many timelapses etc. now and i've seen so many people comment on how ming always (or almost always) disintegrates... I wonder howcome this is not the case with me.
Do you not have the Mandate of Heaven DLC?
@@TheRedHawk i got it allright... :p
when you want them to explode they survive when youre on the other side of the world and couldnt give a shit they explode on the first reform
Well, for timelapses like this, there aren't enough nations, let alone small ones, around Ming to become tributaries. As such, they are essentially forced into collapsing.
In my successful “relentless push east” run both Ming AND timurids did not explode, thus giving me a lot of trouble with AE when expanding into uzbek and oirat
This would be better if every nation had the same ideas or atleast used the best idea set out of its religion. The way you did it compares only some random choosen idea sets.
Can you do one where it's every state a nation?
Sure!
@@TheRedHawk good luck on filling some of the empty provinces
England colonizes
France starts a revolution
I guess that's how the universe works.
His voice is so different now
TLDW: The cold war starts 500 years early
A cool one would be to make a really weak worldwide empire and see who pops out and becomes top power
Rip the small guys :(
Yazd/Zoroastrian did quite well though! They didn't expand at all, but survived for a surprisingly long time (As a Religion even until the end).
Cool content my guy! Any chance you could start uploading the saves you use for these simulations alongside their respective videos? Might be fun jumping into the action
Save files are available for all Tier 1 RUclips members!
In alternate universe people can't tell portugal from portiguara and are like" Yooo man look Poti already colonized europe, ahh no wait its that porgungal thing meh. "
Hmm it’s not rly a fair since it’s not only about religion since “tags” like France are included. Did the same with only custom nations with same ideas and results were more fun :D and “fair”
Great video tho !
Ladies and gentlemen:
THE OTTAMAN SUS
Your channel is so underrated mate
Thanks I appreciate it!
naturally, you gotta do a vid of the most cursed unions you can make out of the 1444 great powers (not with another great power and mods more than likely needed) for example, Austria and Ming
Sounds like a fun idea!
@@TheRedHawk of course by fun you mean insane amounts of masochism to attempt lol
@@TheRedHawk or better yet, give me a list of the GPs in 1444 and i'll tell you what religion to change them too
haida and papal states
ORTHODOX GERMANY
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I understand that South America was their main power-base so it made sense to choose a south American nation, but the animists would've surely had way more of a real shot at winning if they started as a feudal old world animist nation.
Man, you did Protestantism dirty with the Norse Scandinavia.
as a person living in yazd this was unexpected 🤣🤣
Why ist France reformed? The Kings of France were always catholic, the Catholicism was always the state religion in France. Switzerland or Prussia or Netherlands as reformed nation would be much more accurate.
See I was playing a Sambas into Lanfang campaign and obvi I was waiting for Yue to pop out from the event so I could form Lanfang but then Ming just refused to pop so I had to chain claims all the way from hecking Johor to Canton and beat a 70 mandate Ming just to FORM Lanfang.
Yet if I'm playing Tibet and WANT Ming protection from Delhi or Bengal ofc they explode and leave me defenseless.
Lol
But there wasn't "reformed" at the time, France was Catholic, also officially
I like how Oirat went full TNO russia
I'd like to see tengri taboritsky
“Huge shout out to Dahomey”
I thought I saw France in the religion mapmode and was like "yeah, that makes sense"
Well, the Emperor + the Pope = Rome Lol
every video i expect Persia to lose but somehow they survive and expand and the opposite with the ottomans
I did not expect Ottomans to explode that bad tbh
Same
Rewatching this and Red sounds so depressed here lol
Persia and Byzantium making up for the mistake of the past.
About the Ottomans not taking Yazd, Oman and the other smaller countries, it isn't that surprising tbh. None of those countries are a real threat to them, so it'd be more imperative to focus on the enemies who are a real threat that the tiny lil enclaves. Pretty sure this is the reason many enclaves exist irl, like the two in South Africa.
Wow! That Bharat is so stronggg
You failed to mention that the Potiguara dynasty is Osmanoglu, at least by the time that they are Confucian.
it would have been more fun if you force them to take religious ideas, for the CB and convert religion.
It could be a fun mod to play, some things like, every province without separatism get auto-send to the country that controls their religion.
I was curious for any institution that didn't spawned on Europe. Like, would the trade nodes of Bharat spwan global trade?
Hmm I didn’t chechk tbh
13:53 I can't get over the fact that the AI made borders like that
*why are they so cleeeeean aaaaa*
The ottomans are what I am like trying to play them. Managed to lose a war to the mamluks because they had more mil tech
I may be wrong but...
Didn't finland have a diferent belief system than the nordic one?
Next time dismantle Empire of China, becouse of that Ming and Oirat collapse.
Ottomans decline because Anatolian tech troops have terrible pips starting in the age of absolutism
Yeah that contributed for sure!
A Confucian Osmanoglu ruling in Potiguara. Well, I didn't expect that.
What if the HRE was dismantled in 1444?
Great idea!
Poland, Denmark and France: “DAMN I’M HUNGRY”
@@Podzhagitel Burgundy, will be intresting too. Bohemia aswell.
I imagine a new powerhouse will form inside germany
Yazd: _Dies_
Wake the fuck priest. We have fire temples to save
Mandate of heaven should be called mandate of hell, or mandate of rebels.
no mention of Bohemia going Catholic somewhere between 1490-1543?
Guess it slipped my mind lol
Do you think it would have meaningfully affected brandenburgs performance if you gave them Danzig or Konigsburg so they could form prussia and get the ideas and government?
Probably not, AI Prussia is not very strong in my experience
@@TheRedHawk it might just be mao placement when these videos comes out they are sort of in between all the other major nations so they are more likely to be rivaled by many people
@@TheRedHawk Best AI tag I've seen in north Germany is munster, followed by hamburg when they come out of their city-state shell. BB AI just isn't aggressive enough and takes useless idea sets in my experience
I seriously thought this was going to just be Ottoman world conquest.
Hoping for a one faith catholic win 🤞
Turned out pretty good. Orthobros got back Jerusalem and North Africa recovered
find yourself a friendship like kingdom of God and Byzantium's
Portiguara had Osmanoglu at 8:40 so they must've been married and probably allied to the ottomans at some point
Yeah probably
Well you shouldn’t split catholic nations buuut whatever good video. I hope you make every culture is a nation as next video.
The ottomans are basically how they end the game if you play in asia, horrifying
Those Byzantines are noice
i would love to see what if ottomans existed in 1444 with their widest borders
I will do it for sure!
CMV: you should've made the Caliphat represent Sunni
So, my solution for allowing colonization while still extending the gimmick to the new world would be to just use the already colonized provinces instead of also using all the uncolonized ones. So, for instance, instead of a giant Potiguara, give them only the provinces that already belongs to a nation at game start.
Yeah I might do that in the next videos
Nah, it's just fine as it is. Maybe give all the lands to a better nation next time, like Carib or someone.
Unofficial Catholic-Orthodox Alliance was pretty wholsome.