the Fastest, Best Handling, and Lightest truck I've built
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- My new project is going to be the fastest, best handling and lightest truck I've ever built. I love building fast pickup trucks, but working with a fullsize truck does have its challenges, so this time we're working with the mid-size S-10 platform but will still retain V8 power, forced induction, and all wheel drive to make the ultimate 2nd gen S-10 Syclone
The inspiration for this new build mainly came from the COPO truck's performance at LS Fest a few years back...
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I think a 4.2 Vortex 6 cylinder would be a great choice. A monster turbo and the bottom end torque would be awesome.
YES! Even the earliest variant of this engine would be fun in an s10 at stock levels, but of course LT would force feed it all the boost.
4.3. Vortech
Would it fit though?
@jpetersontrx that's what came in it stock. The 4200 he referring to is a inline 6 out of the Trailblazer/Envoy.
@@DaInfamous0ne yea I looked into it I thought he made a typo I just figured 6 cyl Vortech 4.3 ya know ....my mistake
So what engine should we put into the new AWD S-10? I am thinking about a supercharged LS of some sort, but let me know your thoughts!
Stroked 5.7 Vortec, aka a 383. Would be period correct. GM should've offered the 5.7 in them.
If its an LS, what about a stroked 6.0?
Turbo charged LS/LT with a 6l80, basically make it a V8 Syclone.
Some 90's Astro vans also had the same AWD transfer case and front differential as the Syclone.
I ran 4x C4 corvette front wheels on my S-10, the rear wheels had the tires scrubbing on the leaf springs without spacers.
Good ole 350 or a sbc gen 2 lt1 like the red one stacy davids had on trucks
I vote for a stroked aluminum block LS breathing natural to keep weight off the nose and make it easier to work on. It would be a nice contrast to your other trucks.
4.3 with a marine intake and a small turbo.
LT, it's about time you do something with an LT!
I agrree!
I agree, also. It would be cool to see a 5th gen block go into something................. on a budget!
As far as appearance mods are concerned... there are the Xtreme trucks which always looked awesome to me. Also they made a GMC Jimmy Envoy edition that had unique headlights and bumper cover
20 years ago, I watched an episode of TRUCKS! with Stacy David and Mel Fair and they took a S10 eXtreme extreme red with yellow stripes and installed an LS1.
Yea and nobody can find one now because they're so sought after... which is why I kept my S10 front end.
You and the Stay Tuned crew should race after. Tony’s Sike Clone is an awesome build.
Just happen to stumble across this video. Glad you found out that the ZR2 rear end has a different pinion length and angle. That info is valuable for the 2wd S10 I'm building.
As stated a Vortec 4200 with a turbo would be killer. The RPM that can be pulled out of a built 4.2 is amazing. There is an article from quite a few years ago around the time they came out that a Trophy Truck team (Nelson Racing maybe?) had been playing with a built one and the comment that was made stated it sound like a swarm of pissed off hornets coming at you down the whoops section.
Calvin Nelson (nivlac57) has pulled good power from the 4200.
When you hinted about this project, I speculated it'd be a Syclone clone. But with a V8, it'll be that much better. Look into the Xtreme body kit and the ZQ8 chassis braces, too. This will be epic!
Hey LT, while I generally appreciate your desire to take a path less traveled for power plants, given your competition goals, IMO just go with an all aluminum LS........ either Turbo'd, Supercharged or a big inch NA something like a 454LS. REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE BUILD!!!
Front end looks way better
I think the LV3 would be a perfect candidate for this truck and they make decent power with a stock bottom end with a turbo. I’d like to see a new edge cyclone out of this. Plus you can make 700hp with that motor and keep it lighter than the LS/LT platform.
Just find a LV1 which doesnt have stupid DOD to begin with.
@@shadowopsairman1583 can always delete it with a tune.
Yes! This is the answer
That is a build i have been dreaming of doing for years. Glad someone is doing it.
I really like the sound of the syclone. Such a unique 6 cylinder sound.
What a coincidence that I was re watching COPO truck videos today !!
Looking forward to this project as well.
Extended cab syclone!! I cant wait!!!
If you go with the same orange wrap as the CoPo truck the flares will look great on that one.
This is LITERALLY the truck I dreamed of building back in 1999/2000. THANK YOU
Your Orange truck inspired me to build either an S10 truck or Blazer (S10) with all wheel drive. The last two months I was researching info on what rear end and front end would survive a supercharged LS. This video answered that question! I can't wait to see the rest of the build. I love how clean and factory looking all your builds are, so I will be following this one closely!
Not going to lie, I’m exited about this build. Just wished it was done so I could see the final result. Haven’t seen a build in a min and really looking forward for the end product.
Gotta go with a 6l80e if this all about acceleration. I finally managed to find a core for my Tahoe. Circle d makes a great kit for them!
Definitely following this build.
This channel is awesome. This is way better than anything on Netflix, hulu, amazon prime, etc. Thanks for all the great content.
Im so tuned into this because my S10 Blazer is basically the same as this, and This is exactly what I wanted... LS... awd.... fast and still have my 4 door S10 Blazer capabilities. And my blazer already has 3.73s front and back stock.
Looking forward to this build, LT!
Perfect dime bag to start with!!!
It was a sad day when you sold the COPO truck. That was by far the most exciting truck you had on the channel. I am however, looking forward to the S-10. I've wanted to make a newer Syclone for a long time.
Super excited for this build! I'm not sure you will see this comment, or if anyone else has already stated it, but zr2 models have different fenders and bedsides that have a reworked wheel arch (larger arch) and a flange that sticks out to mount the flare. So the zr2 flares aren't a bolt on for your truck without some decent modification to the fenders and bedsides. I'm sure you are more than capable of doing so, but just wanted to give the heads up! If you change your mind on flares and want some s10 extreme fender flares I have a set I'd be happy to send you to help with the project! Thanks for the great content
Poly bushings in the front make a massive difference
Has some Stay Tuned "Sike Clone" vibes. Excellent
If I had to recommend an unconventional engine swap, I’d say a vortec 4200 i6 or its 3500 i5 little brother. Seems fitting for the degree of oddball or untraditional swaps you like
I do love the sound of a 5 cylinder…
I don't think there's enough firewall to core support room to fit either engine as they're longer than a V8.
I had a super rare 97 extended cab S10 fully loaded Automatic 2WD 4.3 vortec with OEM factory grey and black LEATHER interior with the factory floor shifter and console. I've only seen one other one but it didn't have leather seats, just cloth. BTW this by far is going to be my favorite build on RUclips so far!
Turbo it and race Tony Angelo 👌
that would be a blast!
Compact trucks are my favorite, looking forward to this.
Incredible all those Rock Auto/Dorman trim parts and lamps fit decently. Hopefully, the lamps won't fill up with water in a few weeks.
With a narrow rear end you can fit some 10" wide rears. Stock bow tie up front but you have to paint it red!!
Awesome. My project is a 97 S10 Blazer, and I did the same axle swap. Didn't have the problems with pinion angle/driveshaft length, though. Everything fit pretty nicely. Junkyard 5.3 would make me happy, since that's my choice. An L33 might be a cool option, since lightweight is kind of the them of the build.
My thoughts on the pinion angle is the shorter wheelbase of the blazer. Its got the same drivetrain but short wheelbase. And just like mentioned, swaps right in a blazer.
I cant wait to see this truck come to life. If it was me building it id do a ls with a whipple on it. Put a engine in it thats easily available and cheap for hp.
Looking forward to this build
Always love watching you make things work and moto" do it right the first time".. wish you were a Ford guy for those builds, but I will watch your content and videos!
Solid roller NA LS. Spin it to the moon.
I’m also a big fan of the factory lights vs aftermarket.
My 07 Avalanche that I bought from a friend had aftermarket projector headlights installed and he gave me some led tail lights for it as well. I replaced the projectors with factory headlight housings and sold the projectors and also sold the led tail lights.
Lights just depend for me. A lot of aftermarket projector lights are trash. Some stock lights are trash. There are times I'd rather make a set, than deal with the ugly aftermarket or factory lights.
1993 lt5. Such a great looking engine. Maybe a 3.8 turbo, last one a new 2.7 turbo would be cool. So many possibilities.
I agree with everything back to stock but clear front market lens. Cool project. Refreshing to have a new build on the Chanel
You can get a v6 to sound great if you know how to. But it takes a twin turbo to do it. Those wheels are zr1 c4 corvette if I remember right.
To keep true to the Syclone I’d swap in an LF4. Twin turbo’d 3.6 making 472HP/445lb/ft stock and is capable of a lot more. And it’ll be lighter and cheaper than a supercharged or turbocharged LS/LT. Lastly they actually sound pretty damn good. Listen to some ATS-Vs or CT4-V Blackwings.
They sound yucky to v8 fans
Hell yeah, i have an S10 that i want to AWD swap but i will be going with the Vortec4200 Straight 6
I did a similar conversion in an S-10. I shortened a ZR2 rearend and used shorter axles made for an '94-'96 S-10 SS. I left the spring perch angle alone and used angled drop blocks to counter the ZR2's inclination. This all was far easier than trying to find a stock width, 8.5" rearend from an already limited production '94-'96 S-10 SS which allegedly only offered the 8.5" with 4.3 liter, 5 speed models. Caltracs were bolted on after.
Ls sounds fun. This build has potential to be your best feat yet. You will love driving this thing.
A new rabbit hole! Excited to see this play out. 😂 LS7!
Yes!!! I've built 3 ls s10's myself. Glad to see you are tackling it
I would love to see you do a drag racing competition with this thing
I wanna see a de-stroked LS3 with big cam and heavy valve springs! Something that'll rev to the moon 🌙
I believe the LS3 is lighter then the 4.3L
Daughter has an 02 s10, loves it same milage as yours, runs good goes good but as you know maine weather is eating away at it can't find another one , she loves that thing.
I'm following
Better than horsepower tv...kudos
Rad project and looking forward to watching the build
So excited to see an s10 build!
“Well, no chunks fell out”… 🤣😂🤣…. Always a plus when dealing with wrecker parts lol.
As for engine choice? 🤔…. I’d say a 6.0 LS with a supercharger or a pro charger. Turbo stuff is everywhere, keep superchargers alive 😜…
Thank goodness video lt. And it’s not cause you’re getting old I follow u because u build the way my mine tells me to build but my pockets just never agree. Can’t wait to see more of this. I see where you’re going with it all purpose build I guessing. Still hoping for the cateye body for the awd chassis build. Seen on the next one keep em coming. #samenamegang
Big single turbo 4.8 with heads/cam for some good rpm and linear power.
OK LT I can contribute a lot, from first-hand experience - we LS-swapped a '00 ext cab S-10 and it came out fantastic, it was 2WD and we used a 5.3L w/ cam and built 4L60 from 4th-gen F-body, the entire swap in 3.5-day holiday weekend thrash, truck was 4.3L driving Friday afternoon, was LS-driving Monday afternoon. Truck went 13.0 first time out, and was completely unsuspecting until you started it and it sounded like a 4th gen Camaro (lol) and has been daily driven since 2007. Issues to plan ahead for, biggest challenge is headers - we used OE 4th-gen Fbody manifolds and with modification they worked, we also had to grind clearance on the rear upper control arms & mounts as the space constraint is the exhaust interfering with control arms; different engine mounts will help/hurt as different folks sit the motor higher/lower in the frame. Other issue is maintaining A/C, we had to pocket the frame rail for the compressor and get custom hoses made but it works terrific. We were able to read the OE wiring schematics and with a couple specific wire mods at the driver's firewall preserved all OE gauges and controls. PCM was 0411, I can't recall if it was P01 or P59 but the truck had a cable TB so I think it was P01. We used custom efans (I make low-profile efan assemblies) and using every clearance trick we knew we got it all to fit and look factory, the packaging was very tight like 1/4" between waterpump and cooling assembly but it all worked great. We were forced to relocate the battery from the engine compartment, that is where we chose to locate the CAI/filter.
More: you ask about forced induction - in our build there was absolutely no way to use a blower, OE positive-displacement ones require significant hood bulge (looks waaay to aftermarket for me) and there is no accessory space for a centrifugal. We could have possibly made a large turbo fit mounted on the passenger manifold. I don't remember exactly, but I don't think there is enough room under the floor of the truck to fit twin turbos.
Hint on the NVG-149: the gears and chain from the 2500HD transfer case fit (direct swap) and are 33% wider, this is what I did to my Silverado SS.
Reply if you want pics and notes from the S-10 build.
Hell yeah, mini truck FTW. You can NEVER go wrong with an LS IMHO
This build looks like it's going to be great. Love the S10 my favorite small truck. You pretty much got the exact version I want to get an extended cab with 4WD.
6.0 super charged…..Great SOUND, Great power….
LT’s Rear Track OCD kicks in Axel swap incoming 🤣🤣
A stock looking truck with some good power to me looks the best
Hey Lawrence, thanks for the build video. currently building my Silverado SS Awd of 7 years. look forward to the S-10 build.
have a good day brotha🇺🇲
Tucson, Az
Pinion shims wouldn't get you where you want?
Reminds me of my old green 2wd from college. Absolutely love these silly little hardest working trucks.
It'll look nasty slammed into the dirt if you go that route.
So LT I'm not sure if someone has told you this already in the comments but you could get a ZR2 extended cab S10 drive shaft and it should bolt in with no modifications needed.
Also the pinion angle difference is because the ZR2 come factory lifted 2-2.5 in. That is probably why the pinion angle is different.
I love the real choice you have selected they're going to look awesome. I hope you were going to lower the truck down and an xtreme body kit would look to help out with that factory sports truck look you are trying to achieve.
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I'm guessing the incorrect pinion angle is because he pulled the axle from a ZR2 Blazer instead of an extended cab ZR2 truck. The shorter wheelbase would require a different pinion angle.
Throw a vortec 4200 in there. I know how you like doing things outside the norm and I think you’ll like the 4200. Seems to be pretty stout with a few upgrades.
It wouldn't fit. LS barely fit.
This is something I've been wanted to do myself
A boost gauge where the 4x4 buttons used to be would be pretty cool
A whole cleared front light and reflector would’ve been cool
Nothing wrong about a v6 but I’m glad he’s on the same page as me when it comes to the sound of the engine
LT the best thing to do is stuff an LS in it not necessarily supercharged, but I would go with the ceramic oil-less turbo in the back
I've always like your OEM+ approach to your builds. Is there a S-10 Xtreme body kit in the future for this build?
I've done tha factory shifter console on multiple S10's and Sonoma's pickups as the pickups never really got them. The cool thing is, that the connectors are almost always already there in the factory harness (even in the pickup harness's). And that makes for a nice neat install that just works. The only thing you really need is the console shifter column, as it also has the connector needed to make the shift interlock work. Plus, it will tidy up your swap and make it look factory. If you get oa column from the junkyard, make sure it comes with a key so that you can swap the key cylinder over and not have to swap out the door locks. The other thing that will be needed is you need the VATS to be programmed and there's plenty of RUclips vids that show you how to accomplish that. The shifter cable is a direct replacement for the column one and is not an issue to install, with the exception of having to remove the carpet to access the cable grommet. Another neat thing is if your console is equipped with a tow/haul button, it will work with the factory PCM as the programming is already in the code. All it needs is a signal , which usually comes from the BCM.
I like the build, I’d love to do the same thing but get a crew cab S10 bed and swap it onto a regular cab S10, AWD with an aluminum LS or LT.
Tony Angelo is already doing the Sike Clone with the v6. You should go bigger. ❤
I'd say an LS 6.0 like a LQ4 or LQ9. That light s10 will rip being AWD. I love it. I am excited for this build LT. So awesome
As the excab 4x4 trucks are a little chunky, I would try to find an L33 aluminum 5.3 to supercharge. Keep some weight off the nose. Add some 4th gen fbody rear disc's for more bite in the COPO style. They bolt on the the 8.5 easy enough. Some s10 extreme body kit and it will look slick
Great build! Needs to have an aluminum LS. I would go with an LS3. Stick would be an added bonus
I agree!! I’m trying to keep this thing as light as reasonably possible, so an aluminum LS likely will be my engine of choice
I am so excited for this new build! I will tune in for all of it.
This seems like an interesting build. I love the S-10 and blazers of this era.
I’ve got a few blazers and would like to do the LS swap minus the AWD conversion and keeping the 4wd and do a Solid Axle Swap.
I am excited for this build. I bought a zr2 s10 with 50k miles a few months ago and i have been wanting to awd swap it. I can not wait to see what this thing will do!
Great video brother, Awesome little truck.im a big fan of the S-10's ,truck and blazer.i have a bone stock 2002 2 door S-10 blazer lowered just a tad .keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing what you do next with that nice truck. 🤠🇺🇸
Soo do whatcha doo & more Power to you! Gonna keep my daily ‘01 Sonoma stock & sweet w/the “W” 10th character code.., when you know ya know!
And here I thought that L8T might find its way into this thing. Unless I missed an explanation along the way, the L8T mystery continues.
eBay has the factory style replacement floor plates to bolt down to floor so you can use factory bolts to hold the center console in place correctly. Even bucket seat brackets to move seat back for tall people. If I can think of it, someone has already made it,lol. What a great project you have. That’s a bucket list truck you building for me,lol I’ll have to enjoy watching you build one instead. Looking forward to all the fun watching this S10 fly!! A tire slayer,hahahaha
4.2L vortec I-6. Insane power potential, and sounds awesome.
If you must LS swap, 5.3L is best bet.
Glad to see you doing this project . I have a 96 5.3 swapped s10 I'm about to do an all wheel drive conversion and cammed 6.0 swap to when I find a good frame .
Sick choice on the wheels, can't wait to see them all mounted up!! Great build LT
Woodgrain console is bravada also woodgrain door switch panels also but Dr's side is 4 door only.
I wired in some motors from swing out side glasses from a mini van to the extra cab windows to the rear window switches 🙂
That s10 is gonna be sick af
Thank you for doing the light and grill upgrade🤌🏼 that old stuff was YUCK!
Big fan of the S10 platform, looking forward to watching this build come together!
I think the L83 or L86 engine would be a good engine swap. It would be a good engine to show people that it is affordable and could actually be cheaper than an LS build. Stock L83 is 355hp/ L86 is 420hp and with a cam or forced induction you don't even have to change the heads. I've seen L83 complete engines with harness and trans go from as low as 3k. Yeah you can buy a junkyard LS but after you buy all the parts you would be in way more than buying a newer LT.
LS3 would be sweet in there.
Copo mini...... Nice
Love the 2nd gen s10! Have one myself. I dropped in a Sbc 350 built up. 4 linked the front end and am running 42” iroks. I’d say a drop in a ls and you’d still be surprised with the power of that by itself. Good luck on your build! I plan on watching and keeping up with your progress!
Im so excited to see this build, id be interested to see a supercharged aluminum 5.3 in it keeping the weight low and the swap simplistic
They also used the instrument panel from the Fiero!