Agree with what you have all said . The government should be thinking of ways to help the small farms to keep them going & not dumping great big tax bills onto them because they want their son / daughter to carry on farming their land that's been passed down through generations . If anyone should get the big tax bills it should be the fat cats sat in their big offices doing absolutely nothing but earning a very good wage & even bigger bonuses . They will never know what hard graft is , unlike farmers who work very very hard for very little . I really hope something can be done to help British Farmers x
I live in the US but have been following the issue. What a travesty. Family farms should be supported. Inheritance tax issues. Land ownership for farming not for corporations etc. So very sad. Farmers feed us!
Farmers should not be liable for Inheritance Tax. Our World is very unstable and we need to make sure that we have Food Security and we cannot have that in place if our Farmers are penalized by the Governments and a Tax System that can ruin our Farmers and our Food Security. WW1 people starved to death in the UK. WWII Rationing was brought in so that wouldn't happen again, but even with the smaller population THEN, we couldn't feed our people. Food was brought in by Convoys of ships and many of those ships were targeted by the Enemy and many of the ships, Men and Food went to the bottom of the Sea. We need to make sure we look after our Farmers and their families for the UK future food security. 🏴🇬🇧
Whilst APR does need some reform, it is extremely sinister the way Labour have been able to foist this new APR tax onto farmers, despite previous APR tax change denials from Defra Secretary, Steve Reed, prior to the Election and no mention of it in their Labour Election Manifesto. Nor has there been any attempt whatsoever to carry out any sort of impact assessment including the impact on tenant farmers, nor any debate in Parliament, which should have been the standard procedure in our so-called democracy. Labour knows full well that most family farms have no hope of ever paying this new Inheritance tax (IHT) on farmland, even if it is spread over ten years, without either selling off a substantial part of their farm or their farm house. This IHT tax shows the utter contempt with which Labour views small and medium sized family farms, together with other businesses that rely upon agriculture. It is obvious to the government that some older farmers will not have seven years left to live in order to turn their farms over to their children; others could already be earmarked to die within a short time frame from illness, or be lost very suddenly through farm accidents etc.
I agree with you all 100%. Some of these family farms are businesses that have taken 3. 4 or more generations to build up. Then a shower of ignorant politicians who have contributed the square root of damn all to that business, come along and say "We' are going to take a big chunk of that off you". Then they wonder why people are annoyed. I genuinely think that this rabble and a lot of their Guardian reading supporters have not got the slightest idea about what goes into producing food.
a great conversation lads. something that needs to be considered also is we need to encourage the next generation into farming......if you've got a young son / daughter of school leaving age and there trying to decide whether to go into farming or not knowing that there going to have come up with several hundred thousand pounds as and when there parents pass away isn't going to encourage many into the farming industry. one of the youtube farming channels i watch the family farm a 500 acre hill farm in yorkshire and the farming family have a 4/5 year old boy called jim and all young jim wants to do is spend the whole day everyday out with his mum & dad on the farm learning about the sheep the cows and the tractors there is no doubt in any one's minds what young jim wants to be and that's a farmer but these new tax rules could mean young lads like him just won't be able to be a farmer
Completely agree with everything said, my dad was a coal miner all his life, as was his dad before him and his dad before him..... Now, you would be hard pushed to find a single person that would be able to do that job, they would have to be brought in from other countries!! Now, they are hitting another national industry, the farmers, another industry that has run through generations of families. Lets face it, the people doing this have no worries, none of this will impact their families, they have their millions squirrelled away and are being paid big money to sabotage British industries, whilst at the same time, being handed thousands of pounds worth of freebies, left, right and centre, I'M ALRIGHT JACK!!! DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!!! Let's hammer the ones that are already struggling, farmers, disabled, pensioners and don't forget, mental health problems aren't real, get out and do some hard graft, that will sort your head out!!! Sorry for the rant, there is so much more that I could say, but I will be good and shut up, now xxx 🤫🤫😳😳
There would be the knock on effect of agricultural colleges no longer being needed therefore unemployment. Also, what about the local agricultural shows?
My brother is in farming and land that has been passed down through generations some will have to be sold when he dies. His son will be in a right mess. If farmers sell up entirely I can understand as you say tax would have to be paid. If the worse happens we would have a food shortage. Food would not be able to get through by ship or plane. It’s common sense to look after the farmers who feed us. The Government saying the NHS needs the money, it seems trying to put the blame towards farmers is a disgrace. I think it is a legalised theft in my opinion when people are already under stress from losing a loved one. They then have more stress of having to sell land. We have signed the governments farmers petition just to show unhappy we are. We expect nothing will be done to reverse this decision but at least they know how people feel.
Just want to thank all good British farmers for the amazing food they provide for us...good quality, mostly very high animal welfare,..and an amazing choice of meats and veg....you sustain us by working long brutally hard hours and in all weathers, it's a pity this loathsome government is intent of not sustaining you.
The NHS is funded by our salary taxes. It does not fall on only one sector. We need to produce food but new schemes are all about eco systems not food supply.
You cannot adequately fund the NHS unfortunately. Good idea at it's inception, but no one has taken into account that the NHS is a Bottomless Black Hole! It doesn't matter how much money you throw at it, it will never be enough money! New operations, new drug's, new equipment, new procedures for operations etc etc etc. The list is endless because the NHS is about Health Care and it does not stand still in any of the areas that it covers! It's always progressing in one area of medicine or another! No amount of money put into the NHS can realistically keep up with the Progress of Medicine whatever form that takes. There is a lot of wastage. I used to work in the NHS and that is an area that needs to be looked at and addressed. The NHS is trying to be too many things to too many people. A saving that could and should be made is: Anyone entering the UK on holiday or coming to live here should have Health Insurance as standard. We are not an International Health Service! 🏴🇬🇧
Brilliant podcast!
I agree with you all and the government need to listen to farmers and support them in every way they can
I live in orkney and it has just a few industries . Farming & fishing . I agree we need to protect our farmers
Great discussion. worrying times for all of us ☹ - Thanks guys
Agree with what you have all said . The government should be thinking of ways to help the small farms to keep them going & not dumping great big tax bills onto them because they want their son / daughter to carry on farming their land that's been passed down through generations .
If anyone should get the big tax bills it should be the fat cats sat in their big offices doing absolutely nothing but earning a very good wage & even bigger bonuses . They will never know what hard graft is , unlike farmers who work very very hard for very little .
I really hope something can be done to help British Farmers x
This government does not want the small farms they want to change rural life of our beautiful country
I am from the USA but I Truly Pray that the UK government will rethink what they doing to the UK family farms.
Mr Gates is buying up land in the USA daily for net zero
I live in the US but have been following the issue. What a travesty. Family farms should be supported. Inheritance tax issues. Land ownership for farming not for corporations etc. So very sad. Farmers feed us!
Completely agree with evrything you said so true walking in to food shortages. Love the podcast. Xxx
Farmers should not be liable for Inheritance Tax.
Our World is very unstable and we need to make sure that we have Food Security and we cannot have that in place if our Farmers are penalized by the Governments and a Tax System that can ruin our Farmers and our Food Security.
WW1 people starved to death in the UK.
WWII Rationing was brought in so that wouldn't happen again, but even with the smaller population THEN, we couldn't feed our people. Food was brought in by Convoys of ships and many of those ships were targeted by the Enemy and many of the ships, Men and Food went to the bottom of the Sea.
We need to make sure we look after our Farmers and their families for the UK future food security.
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Very interesting podcast. Thanks for your input.
Completely agree with jules❤❤😊
Labour want us to import all of our food our farmers need our support we need more green not concrete
Whilst APR does need some reform, it is extremely sinister the way Labour have been able to foist this new APR tax onto farmers, despite previous APR tax change denials from Defra Secretary, Steve Reed, prior to the Election and no mention of it in their Labour Election Manifesto. Nor has there been any attempt whatsoever to carry out any sort of impact assessment including the impact on tenant farmers, nor any debate in Parliament, which should have been the standard procedure in our so-called democracy. Labour knows full well that most family farms have no hope of ever paying this new Inheritance tax (IHT) on farmland, even if it is spread over ten years, without either selling off a substantial part of their farm or their farm house. This IHT tax shows the utter contempt with which Labour views small and medium sized family farms, together with other businesses that rely upon agriculture.
It is obvious to the government that some older farmers will not have seven years left to live in order to turn their farms over to their children; others could already be earmarked to die within a short time frame from illness, or be lost very suddenly through farm accidents etc.
I agree with you all 100%. Some of these family farms are businesses that have taken 3. 4 or more generations to build up. Then a shower of ignorant politicians who have contributed the square root of damn all to that business, come along and say "We' are going to take a big chunk of that off you". Then they wonder why people are annoyed. I genuinely think that this rabble and a lot of their Guardian reading supporters have not got the slightest idea about what goes into producing food.
a great conversation lads. something that needs to be considered also is we need to encourage the next generation into farming......if you've got a young son / daughter of school leaving age and there trying to decide whether to go into farming or not knowing that there going to have come up with several hundred thousand pounds as and when there parents pass away isn't going to encourage many into the farming industry. one of the youtube farming channels i watch the family farm a 500 acre hill farm in yorkshire and the farming family have a 4/5 year old boy called jim and all young jim wants to do is spend the whole day everyday out with his mum & dad on the farm learning about the sheep the cows and the tractors there is no doubt in any one's minds what young jim wants to be and that's a farmer but these new tax rules could mean young lads like him just won't be able to be a farmer
Completely agree with everything said, my dad was a coal miner all his life, as was his dad before him and his dad before him..... Now, you would be hard pushed to find a single person that would be able to do that job, they would have to be brought in from other countries!! Now, they are hitting another national industry, the farmers, another industry that has run through generations of families. Lets face it, the people doing this have no worries, none of this will impact their families, they have their millions squirrelled away and are being paid big money to sabotage British industries, whilst at the same time, being handed thousands of pounds worth of freebies, left, right and centre, I'M ALRIGHT JACK!!! DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!!! Let's hammer the ones that are already struggling, farmers, disabled, pensioners and don't forget, mental health problems aren't real, get out and do some hard graft, that will sort your head out!!! Sorry for the rant, there is so much more that I could say, but I will be good and shut up, now xxx 🤫🤫😳😳
I agree wholeheartedly with everything that you have stated.
Very well said.
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There would be the knock on effect of agricultural colleges no longer being needed therefore unemployment. Also, what about the local agricultural shows?
My brother is in farming and land that has been passed down through generations some will have to be sold when he dies. His son will be in a right mess. If farmers sell up entirely I can understand as you say tax would have to be paid. If the worse happens we would have a food shortage. Food would not be able to get through by ship or plane. It’s common sense to look after the farmers who feed us. The Government saying the NHS needs the money, it seems trying to put the blame towards farmers is a disgrace. I think it is a legalised theft in my opinion when people are already under stress from losing a loved one. They then have more stress of having to sell land. We have signed the governments farmers petition just to show unhappy we are. We expect nothing will be done to reverse this decision but at least they know how people feel.
Agree ,,the government needs to at least put the levels up
Just want to thank all good British farmers for the amazing food they provide for us...good quality, mostly very high animal welfare,..and an amazing choice of meats and veg....you sustain us by working long brutally hard hours and in all weathers, it's a pity this loathsome government is intent of not sustaining you.
The NHS is funded by our salary taxes. It does not fall on only one sector. We need to produce food but new schemes are all about eco systems not food supply.
You cannot adequately fund the NHS unfortunately.
Good idea at it's inception, but no one has taken into account that the NHS is a Bottomless Black Hole!
It doesn't matter how much money you throw at it, it will never be enough money!
New operations, new drug's, new equipment, new procedures for operations etc etc etc.
The list is endless because the NHS is about Health Care and it does not stand still in any of the areas that it covers!
It's always progressing in one area of medicine or another!
No amount of money put into the NHS can realistically keep up with the Progress of Medicine whatever form that takes.
There is a lot of wastage.
I used to work in the NHS and that is an area that needs to be looked at and addressed.
The NHS is trying to be too many things to too many people.
A saving that could and should be made is: Anyone entering the UK on holiday or coming to live here should have Health Insurance as standard.
We are not an International Health Service!
🏴🇬🇧
Maybe people will be dying of starvation. Easy way to cut our population
Easily sold. Big companies want the land for solar No food to be grown.
Maybe insects are the future. Yuck !