As a priest in his 70’s, it warms my heart to hear a man your age making such good sense and speaking it so courageously. The Tridentine Mass, the Mass of the Ages, will be the future and everlasting Mass as well. Thank you for continuing to fight the good fight.
Normally I’m a NO attendee but noticeable is the younger congregation when I get to a TLM occasionally…. The young thirst for something transcendent and with gravitas…
In your 70's Father, you have lived through the collapse from the beginning. Covert, former Lutheran pastor here, same age as you. Yes it has been quite a journey.
@@dominicpardo4783 You’ve reached the wrong conclusion, Dominic Pardo, and your life would get a lot more interesting if you were to open your mind and your heart to Jesus Christ.
@@dominicpardo4783 there’s scant evidence you exist. Who cares? Most of the things you believe you can’t prove, you just accept. God isn’t to be proven, He is to be experienced. You can experience God and change your life, now and forever. It will definitely help with your anger.
Hi Brian. I am a recent convert from Atheism. I have a triple major in science (geology/chemistry/geography) and absolutely never imagined being Christian. What turned me to recognising the lord's presence in my life was my love for my son. I am a solo-Dad and have always tried to prepare my son for his future in a self-less realistic way. I felt that I desperately needed to: 1/ give him (Riley) a belief system for if I past away. 2/ give Riley the Morales that he needed to nullify the effects of a decadent western society. 3/ fill his life with love. . . I quickly found that I was drawn heavily towards the Roman Catholic church. Consequently, and as a result of the research I did, Riley and I have found the Holy Trinity. . . Hope that might help. If we can appeal to the self-less love (real love) that people have for others, and their commitment to ensuring the spiritual welfare of the "other" - over their own ideas of "self".
you & your son are now in my daily prayers! Welcome home! Please don’t forget to pray the rosary daily . May our Lord continue to bless you both. Mama Mary please continue to protect him & his son 🙏
As an immigrant and a non-native English (or Spanish) speaker, I very much appreciate how a tridentine mass in Latin is the most inclusive of mass offerings. The TLM rises above ethnicity and nationality. On account of it being a “dead” language, no person at the TLM is a native Latin speaker, there are no new or evolving Latin colloquialisms to keep up with, and no ethnic, linguistic, or national group has a greater “claim” to the TLM than any other. At Latin mass, we are equally foreign. And everyone even gets to have a funny accent. It is a glorious thing and I have never felt more at home.
I grew up in a predominantly Hispanic community. Without the unifying TLM you end up with is a Spanish Church and English speaking church with totally different liturgy and separation. Latin the universal language is what made the church truly Catholic/universal.
@@commercialrealestatephilos605 Exactly. My parish has English and Spanish masses, which is on one level wonderful but it also unavoidably also auto-segregates the parishioners by linguistic background. The TLM is equally linguistically un/accessible to everyone, we all sit at the same table.
@@victoriathorlacius874 Yes, We can all equally not understand what is being said. Sorry, grew up in the Latin Mass. No intention of going back to the Mass in a language that was not even the Mass of the Apostles and 4 centuries of Martyrs. Pushing the TLM as the “ true Mass “ is basically telling all devout Catholics who have been attending Mass in the Vernacular and Latin before Vatican II, that they have been attending the “ wrong “ Mass. That their worship is just not up to par and that receiving the Eucharist on the hand is “ sacrilegious “. Sorry that you converted to the Catholic Church and did not find it up to “ your “ expectations.
Dear Brian! How eloquently you state exactly the problem. At 14:01, “So why are we doing everything we can to look like the world?” Spot on. Glad to be one of your Reinforcements!
I've been telling this exact same thing to my peers at our church. We keep trying to offer people a second class of what they receive in the world instead of offering something outside the world.
The traditions of the TLM are beautiful, along with beautiful architecture and music and reverence for the Eucharist. But don’t forget that the atheist revolutions in Mexico, France, and Eastern Europe all happened before Vatican II. Liturgy alone cannot do the job if priests preach poorly, if parish school teachers don’t catechize, if Catholic bishops don’t condemn heretical politicians. The liturgy is only part of the solution.
@@shane8037 changing liturgical practices which constitute a single hour on a Sunday out of a 148 hour week will not change much. The issue is cultural, not liturgical. Most Catholics don’t even attend Mass, so it wouldn’t be very helpful. Preaching/catechesis should be the focus. As St. Paul says in Romans 10:14: preaching -> faith/revival -> cultural change -> reverence in liturgy. The chain starts with preaching.
Thank you, this was extremely helpful. My husband and I, along with 9 other couples, were invited to speak at our diocese to be included in the documents submitted for the upcoming synod. This video was incredibly helpful in communicating what we’ve been trying to express!
I'm a youth leader in my parish and diocesan levels, I have the same thoughts as you do; sharing this message during the synod. Hopefully it lights a spark in the hearts of the people, wether it's added to the full document or not.
I know this is going to be good, even before I hear it! Brian has an intelligent, faithful, and fair minded approach to most things. We could all use a dose of that these days. God bless everyone! 🌷
Dear Brian; thank you for the video I just saw. I am embarrassed that so much good work comes from you who are new Catholics rather than we who were raised in the Faith. Humbly I am grateful. God bless you.
I agree with you. I am a cradle Catholic as well and I watch a ton of conversion stories because I find them so interesting and inspirational to listen to other peoples stories as to how they came to believing in the Catholic Faith, The One True faith. Usually after a great struggle of resistance to becoming Catholic or having to overcome a great prejudice or misconception about our faith and what it teaches. Because they have had to dig deep and do their homework as well as overcome many misconceptions and untruths about the Catholic Faith once they realize the truth they are On Fire where us Cradle Catholics have just kind of accepted it as truth and never had to dig as far and as deep as a convert has to. Unfortunately we also lose many Catholics to other religions because they never really learn their faith either and get duped by heretical protestants or other religions.
Read the lives of the saints. It's all there, no Latin or clown mass. Try to understand how they found the transcendental in their search for the living God.
@13:55 "So why are we as a church, doing everything we can to look like the world........that we can't[and shouldn't] compete with?" Pretty profound point right there Brian Holdsworth!!! We are the "Original Christians"
Wow! You just synthesized years of thoughts that I have had circling my head since forever. I converted ten years ago and never looked back. You just defined what I went through very clearly. Hitting that subscribe button now!!! Thank you for your work!!
I am more convinced of the necessity of the Church to evangelize by the witness of the Converts who distill and refine my and other cradle Catholic's understanding of the faith I thank God for them.
"Do the new mass the way it was intended to be implemented." Yes! We go to a parish that is NO but has sacred music only, boy alter servers only, ad orientum, receiving kneeling and on the tongue only, it's beautiful. We asked the priest why he does the Mass like this, so different from everyone else around and his answer was this is how it was meant to be.
But the problem is that it is being done the way it was intended to be implemented. It's just that everyone was desperate to justify a fake Mass being forcibly thrust on the faithful in the 70s that everyone pretends that that wasn't the case. Why did this Novus Ordo need to be made? Why was there an update necessary so extreme that it formed a break in continuity? The truth is, it wasn't necessary, and it's not the true Mass of the Church and it will never be more than the cudgel of modernists to beat the Church out of the church buildings. The men who wrote it were faithless and in many instances later deemed schismatic. Why should we simply assume that their works would not bear similar fruit? After all, it does all the time. Also, let's point out the absurdity of doing the NO, defined by its considerable differences from the Mass since the days of Peter, in the style of said Mass; at that point, do the real thing, not the cheap imitation. Between the one Mass true in all places at all times and the "Mass" so flexible it can include luchadores and clowns and not be attacked for liturgical abuse by its most ardent proponents, the "Mass" that needs to be bent back into shape to the chagrin of those who want it, the choice should be so easy, it ought be a human instinct.
I always read these comments: " well MY parish does it right..." It looks like gloating. Your "unicorn" parish represent 20% maybe. And what will happen when orthodox priest is moved? And you get new priest? It's not supposed to be like that! Very annoying these comments are..smh
Exactly. Being in the world but not of the world. We don't need to worship/speak/act like the world. We need to stand as a rock in the storm, a firm plot of land, a resting place. Something larger than us, that asks more of us than the world.
the biggest mistake we will make in this moment in the church is NOT to enroll in this synod process to be a presence of the voice calling for faithfulness. otherwise the ones that will lead us astray will be the only voice.
Brian, Truth as you have presented it, has a glorious way of inflicting that Glorious Pain, that hits the Heart and the tear ducts in great synchronicity. Love your work.
As an atheist who is exploring converting to Catholicism I wonder what can be done about the wake of Vatican II. Given the top down structure of the church and the established nature of the council, and the harm separatist attitudes on both sides of the issue have. Is there even room for a traditional interpretation of vatican 2 within the current church hierarchy? I ask these things as an outsider seeking to understand.
While I get what you are saying here I just wanted to say that the primary responsibility of the Church is to defend and protect the deposit of faith that was given by Christ and passed down through the Apostles and tradition for centuries. Evangelizing is only second to this because if the deposit of faith became corrupted, no amount of evangelization of lies, would be a godly thing for us to do. The attacks against the truth contained in the deposit of faith within the Catholic Church have been happening for over 100 years now, long before Vatican 2 or the changes in the liturgy. The V2 changes in the Sacraments came about because of the attacks against the well established theological truth contained in the deposit of faith. When you turn the people's attention in the Liturgy away from God and toward people, you eventually water down the commitment to Catholic theology. Only then can you successfully corrupt enough believers to try to change the deposit of faith. Changes which we are now seeing coming out of the Germany, the Vatican, Francis, James Martin, Bishop Barron and so many more. The liturgy is not what is under attack now. That battle was fought long ago and it was lost to the modernists and heretics. The battle now is directly against the deposit of faith. Directly against tradition and all traditional and well established Catholic theology. Alas, the attack now, is against Christ himself! The current battle for the TLM is really, when gotten to its roots, is about defending the deposit of faith. The TLM is simply the mode by which true Christians try to align themselves with the truth of the traditional deposit of faith that Christ gave us through his preaching and that of the Apostles as they passed to us through tradition. Just remember, the TLM is about defending the truth in Christ and not allowing our attention to be diverted from Christ centered worship to the personalities in the laity that seek, knowingly or not, to steel glory from Christ in his worship. And in so doing, water down and destroy the deposit of faith. And in the end, it is an attempt to destroy the Church. Something that, in the end, Christ will not let happen, regardless of what we do or don't do. I just wouldn't want to be in the shoes of those that have turned against Christ's truth as expressed in the deposit of faith.
I'm in Maine, USA and like you as an introvert, I am always contemplating when chipping the ice or snow-blowing the driveway. I have always enjoyed your content. I've always attended a N.O. Mass. I'm trying to get to look for and attend a Traditional Latin Mass this year. God bless Brian!
Brian I pray that my 'intellectual' sons run across your channel, and actually stop and listen. I have tried sharing your videos with them, but anything coming from mom is 'nyah'. Thank you for this insightful video full of the Holy Spirit. Keep it up!
I have been to Catholic communities with vibrant, reverent masses in a variety of cultural contexts: an African-American community with a gospel choir and “southern” style preaching, a latino community with Latin American style music, A Jesuit college with the entire congregation belting out gather hymnal folk style songs, a mass with organ and hymns at Catholic U in the basilica, A more traditional community with the TLM and women veiling, A charismatic community with hands in the air and modern worship songs. All Of these were moving to me because of the witness of faith of the community even if it wasn’t my preferred style of worship. Different people are engaged and evangelized in different ways. Let’s let different communities worship in their cultural context and the health of the community well evangelize. Yes Gregorian chant has a certain pride of place because of it’s history, and there are a good ways to work it in to most masses especially given certain feasts and liturgical seasons, but it won’t be the best way to worship in every instance. I like the marketing analogy but when the church’s market is literally every human on the planet, we can’t niche down to what works for me in experiencing the numinous. This is one of the strengths of the ordinary form of the mass is its adaptability to a variety of cultural contexts. And at a time when the Catholic Church is less European than it has been at any time in the last millennia and a half, it makes sense to have that flexibility. You are right that part of the mission of the church is to evangelize but that is not the entire mission. The mission of the church is to be one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic. I think evangelization falls mostly under apostolic. But we cannot forget that the church is also Catholic meaning universal. It is for all people and all cultures. Yes, the church is also holy so it must also stand apart and elevate the good, true, and beautiful elements of that culture and not succumb to the more perverse parts of it. And we also must be one, united. And that at least partially comes from recognizing the goodness and beauty of those who are different and not adopting an attitude of superiority as if my mode of spirituality and worship is objectively the best. I’m not saying that’s what you are doing necessarily but it’s a temptation we all should keep in mind. Thanks, Brian, for this video. Very thought provoking. I always appreciate your perspective 👍
@Elizabeth Bennett I agree with everything you said except for your “and frankly.” That’s fine that you have an opinion but there are many people who are drawn deeper into the liturgy by more contemporary and charismatic music. And remember that the mass is not only sacrifice and the crucifixion but also a celebration, a meal, and the resurrection. The body and blood we receive is his risen glorified body. Joy (as wel as solemnity) is appropriate.
I have always believed that the thing that draws people to the Catholic faith is the things that are seen from the outside as specifically Catholic....its traditional practices and beliefs stand in such a contradiction to the world ..A couple of years ago as part of parish renewal we started to run Alpha(which I completed even though it is clearly incompatible with the Catholic understanding of what the Church is and the Sacraments wrapped up in a slick format)) Without fail every week after the video presentation and we withdrew into our discussion groups the non Catholics who were attending without skipping a beat bypassed the presented topics and wanted to know about Catholic 'stuff' the Papacy, the saints, Our Lady, the Priesthood.......It confirmed to me that it was the very things that set us apart from evangelical protestantism and the secular world is what people are drawn to.... Catholics living and worshipping as Catholics visibly is a powerful means of evangelization
Thank you for this presentation which brings clarity as we receive endless evangelization material that rarely gets to the heart of the matter as you have done.
This is the finest statement on the Faith and Evangelization that I have heard in a long time. Simply masterful. And TRUE. It comports with the rest of what we know about the Faith..
Thank you for this. Your thoughts echo mine. This past Sunday I thought I might have to move parishes, but knew any other parish would be the same. The Mass feels dead and rote, the people bored and disinterested. It breaks my heart.
The Synodal Listening Process is a canard. The Holy Father has already decided the path he will take. You are right about the Mass. It should be different than anything else we do during the week. The language, music, gestures, posture, surroundings should be other worldly. Especially, how we receive the Eucharist, should be radically different than how we receive something else outside of the Mass.
Actually not a canard. It is a deception and manipulation. You should see the questions that our Bishop sent for us, who are leaders of discussion groups are to ask. All bullshit and buzzwords. There is no way to get any sensible answers to the questions. They are designed to waste the time of those who show up, insult my intelligence. I am going to our Priest and tell him to find someone else to do this bullshit dirty work so the Bishop can submit what he has already written and say it came from us. No reason to cooperate in his lying and the lying of Bergoglio.
We are trying to get faithful Catholics to send in their thoughts to their local diocesan representatives for the "Synodal Way" lets have the Traditional Voice heard. Ignore their questions they're loaded, just write about what the Church really needs to do. Please see our latest Clear Vision Catholics blog post and take a look at the Christendom Rising 3
I think one of the problems that we have right now in the church is that instead of calling people out of sickness and out of sin, we are calling people into sickness and into sin in certain congregations and with certain teachings. Now I don't think this is a failure of the catechisms, but rather a failure of the Western culture of Catholicism and it's contempt for itself. The culturally Catholic phenomenon, commonly rebranded as religion by Protestants. Put principally people acting in a way that is antithetical to the teachings of Christ and our historical understanding of the role of the church in the world.
In a mansion, there are many different flights of stairs. Each unique, but each with the same function, to raise those who would take them to greater heights. Latin Mass, Novus Ordo, our many unique and diverse rites, are all staircases built in the same house. One staircase ought not be jealous of the others. Nor should one be prideful that it was first among many or that the most souls have ascended there. Rather, what we need is complete humility, thankfulness, and love when discerning the methods by which we approach the Most Holy Eucharist. It pains me to see the enthusiasm of those who attend Latin Mass turn into declarations of superior worship or worse yet to set themselves as adversaries of local ordinaries and the Holy See. It also pains me to see repression of the Latin Mass when clearly it is leading many souls to heaven. The privilege of divine diversity of worship must be embraced with the discipline of humility and gratitude that our loving God should give us any Rites at all, that the Incarnate God, has given us these blessed sacraments at all. What did St. Paul say to those who bickered over which teacher's authority was more pure? Can Jesus be divided? Or is there only one? I find that I pray far better in the Novus Ordo, offering myself as a living sacrifice on the altar to be joined with Christ's great sacrifice. I find the Latin Mass to be a challenge for my attention, understanding, and charism. However, I know others who would say the same about the Novus Ordo. Let us honor every tradition that the Lord has granted us and let the loudest call for the continued practice of all, be the unity, humility, and love which is generated from each.
Thank you, Brain! I enjoy listening to your content. I was an atheist who God found in the desert while touring in Iraq. It was amazing and terrifying. I was baptized at 30 yrs old in a Lutheran Church. I serve there now as Director of Faith. I struggle with the same questions you bring up. This content made me wonder if it's possible for God to speak to His children (even the lost sheep like me) despite the "flavor" of the church. I love the Catholic Church! And have found non-denominational productions unsettling. I visited the Church of the Nativity (Palestine) this Summer, which is spectacular. But I got the sense I was watching "pharisees" perform on stage. I sense the Holy Spirit while sharing a meal with another person. Or in a simple Lutheran Church made of wood and the Word of God spoken by simple people like me. I'm reminded that I'm human, not Holy, and wonder at God's love for His earthly creation. Please keep the content coming! It's much needed.
More get together Podcasts with other lay people! Family vibes, activities, community events, etc. Mass in the beautiful surrounding of imagery of Bibical events, feels so special, to listen to the Scripture and be together with others that are within gathered to give thanks, praise and glory! Song are wonderful prayers, with soul! You fix it together with your parish family, a place of refuge and redemption , and an amazingly infinite possibility of God’s presence in each believer. Especially in ceremony of the transfiguration of Jesus’ body and blood. Wonderful communion! Wonderful feeling of Jesus’ proclamation. A place of very deep graditude. Life of the Family, the Blessed Rosary, the story, pray, pray, pray Medjugorje. I enjoy your experience and opinions, It’s enspirational that your love of the Lord has given you hope for all children . Pray for Priests, God’s grace blest for our needs, guidance with wisdom, help, as does Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, etc. in.prayerful intercession. God bless you on your journey!
Reverent Novus Ordo is the answer, as Pope Francis has made abundantly clear. That includes a view of the liturgical documents that is aligned with the pontiff's thinking. So, practically, can there be reverent guitar music at a Mass that lifts the soul to God? Yes. The TLM does not adequately reflect the mission of Vatican II, though it of course is good and beautiful in its own way, and for its own time, which is not now.
Thank you Brian! You summed up perfectly the miscalculation I believe many of our Church leaders are making in evangelizing our beautiful Catholic Traditions and teachings. The common reaction seems to be oriented to hiding many of the things that make us distinctly Catholic. In a time where evil has become so bold that it has convinced the world that it is good, the Catholic Church has become more timid about revealing the true spirituality that she possesses. I've noticed that our younger priests as well as some of our younger parishioners being drawn to the more traditional practices and liturgy that make us distinctly Catholic yet our Holy Father seems to marginalize them. We need to pray and trust in God's providence that these divisions in are Church are being drawn into the open so they can be exposed and corrected. I join you in praying the leaders and laity of our faith open the graces given to them to achieve bringing the boldness back to the Roman Catholic Church. God bless you for all you do and stay bold! In Christ, Dan
Thank you Brian! Wish the Tridentine Mass would also make Pope Francis weep! In awe and adoration and in humility in the experience of the outpouring of God’s love and grace! Just as it did for Saint Francis. What a vast difference between the two persons with the same name.
How dare you judge what makes our Pope weep. Or judge whether his experience is one of awe, adoration and humility in the presence of God's love and grace. I think both Francis' would pray for you not to judge lest you be judged.
@@maryleblanc2760 take care that you don’t fall into papal idolatry. Critiquing the person is different from criticizing the Office. And if you read a little carefully you might notice it’s a wish and more like a prayer that he feels the greatness of the Tridentine Mass and its sacred rites. Not a judgment. Hope that clarifies. However, if it doesn’t, let’s just pray for each other, and for the Pope. That God, who is the Judge, would give us al the graces we need to worship Him in the manner most fitting. God bless.
The mass is worship, we worship god because we are in awe of him. Is the how, of how we worship together, as important as that we worship as one community? The coming together and love we show each other and our neighbours who we live amongst is the key to evangelizing. While we worship as one body we will be led by god to do the best form of worship.
Your letter is so touching but as a 60 year old Catholic man I have come to reject the novus ordo and much of the false theologies resulting from Vatican II.The SSPX have it right.The way forward is on the Bark of Tradition.
Hey Brian, great video. Minor point: sensus fidelium isn't the "consensus of the faithful", but rather the "sense of the faithful". Small change, but big difference in meaning.
This video opens with an excellent question. I take it your answer is a return to the Latin Mass. As a latin trained alter server from 1960 cradel catholic, my experience not a mystical one. Moving our community toward a reverent celebration by prayer and education is a start. My vision of the target audience is of people in pain seeking transcendence. Buddhism does a great job of marketing by promising relief from pain. Our audience must believe that their pain has meaning. With Jesus we take up the cross. All the great Catholic mystics point to the cross.
Needed to be said. We are not winning this battle for the culture with the “new evangelization”. Time for the “new new evangelization”. Because if we don’t, the “new new new evangelization” will be in the catacombs
I typically go to a TLM however occasionally I have to go to the NO mass. Like last night for Ash Wednesday and I have to say that every time I go I just have to fight the entire time my anger. My anger at the priest for doing things that he shouldn't be doing in the liturgy, anger at the people for wearing immodest clothing, or talking during the mass, or talking after the mass when I'm trying to pray. I try to stay focused on Jesus and block all that out but it is very difficult.
In the Eastern rite Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches, we concentrate on worrying about ourselves, about whether or not we're doing what we ought to be doing, and we let other people worry about themselves. It is incredibly freeing to recognize that I am not responsible for what other people do or don't do, and I urge you to try it for your own peace's sake the next time you have to go to an NO Mass.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 it's not about that. It's about having an atmosphere of reverence and respect for others. It's about having a minimum of distractions to be able to focus on prayer. It's not about worry with what others are doing.
@@KMF3, by not worrying about what other people are doing, one creates an inner silence that creates an atmosphere conducive to worship and contemplation.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 ok I'm not worried about what they are doing it is just incredibly annoying, disrespectful and distracting. I'm maybe not where you are where I'm able to block all that out.
Welcome to the faith. We need more coverts because converts are truly searching for GOD Using very broad brush strokes I'd have to say most Catholics don't even know the faith the church or JESUS. To have new faithful people is the real revitalizer to complete man's purpose that GOD THE FATHER Has planned for us all even before creation itself Keep up the good work
@16:33 "The fact that you have something that they don't have" is actually a saying in AA which gets many if not all of its teachings from Catholicism which is why it works.(Shhhhh, that's suppose to be a secret and we are not supposed to talk about religion or politics which is a very wise tradition established in AA) Ironically, it also works because we are all broken(as in if the Doctor shot himself in the leg) and can identify with the pain and suffering of another alcoholic and thus make some suggestions on how to get better.
Options for those in search of solemn faithful liturgy, I might suggest your local Anglican Ordinariate Catholic parishes ( Tridentine Mass in English is licitly offered) or a Byzantine Rite Eastern Catholic Mass. Both are open to all Catholics.
The unfortunate fact of the matter is that pachapapa francis already has the "conclusion" of this synod written; he has shown this to be the case in his past synods: he pretends to listen to the "voice of the faithful" as an excuse to promote his radical agenda.
Continuing the sales analogy - remember that the best customer is often the one you already have. Seems like stemming the tide of folks leaving would be a worthy goal along with prospecting for new converts. Definitely agree that the Latin mass is a strength and differentiator for Catholicism - it offers tradition that few other religions can offer. Leverage that strength!
Thank you for your clarity and heartfelt words. I agree that Christianity has what nobody has and should be marketize better. That sense of sacre and holy and mystery that goes beyond matter and beyond knowledge and even beyond Love as we know here on earth is what made me Catholic nine Easter ago at 50 after a life in search of God in any possible direction. But….But … it was not a Latin mass. It was a good mass performed by a good priest that was able to channel all that you find in the Latin mass also in each single word of the regular mass. A good priest able to cry at the elevation, able to allow 5 Sunday masses with different appealing characters, exactly to satisfy a public of such a different views. We are in a university town with a large rural surrounding and lot of charismatic Catholics. Since Covid started we now have also a Latin mass. Where many student come. As at at the other masses. But my point is that any mass can be a mystical experience. I cry often at the elevation or around it because of the presence of the HOly Spirit, not because of the type of mass I am in. The point is how you do it. Not only what you do it. I love charismatic masses and worshipping, but I love Gregorian chant. BOTh blow me in the space where I perceive His presence. We had Alpha, we will have this year a big new catholic alternative. They brought friendship and love in the community and some people new. But. What has changed my life are the Bible studies (Ascension press) in group. They made me encounter the Word and see it in the heart of the others. And the feasts in the parking lot or in the school gym. At the community events we know each other and this fulfill the second part of the great commandment of Jesus. We love each other. To know other is to love them. To work together is to know each other. I was searching God and I found God and his family. To conclude, the point is to welcome different hungers and desires and fulfill them with the Love of God which comes only from open hearts that have accepted Him. The individual, the priest is important and the people around him that organize are important. They all need to encounter Christ to be able to meet Him in the heart of the hungry sheep. All this fuss about Latin mass and changing things is the devil noise that distracts us from the point: we have the Holy Eucharist, we have the Presence, but we need to internalize it personally and deeply, to be able to offer it to other that are looking for it in many different way. I agree with you one of the way is the Latin mass and should not disappear as all the other good thing made in respect of Tradition and magisterium. The point is to make them in the right way with the open heart of Jesus. Priests and parishioners need to be evangelize first, may be. Sorry for length. Thanks for your amazing program. God bless you and your family.
I hope this doesn’t sound cynical but is anybody keeping a careful record of what exactly the laity calls for in this synodal process rather than just the INTERPRETATION of what we call for by the hierarchy?
Just like once we had beautiful cathedrals that spoke for themselves about the beauty used to glorify Our Lord for poor and rich, intellectual and illiterate to basic buildings, the same way we have move towards practices that makes you wonder if you really are pleasing God.
Great video. I don’t agree with some of your conclusions but I think the way in which you approach the conversation is the way to move forward. There’s so much beauty in our Catholic faith and in our millenary heritage. There has to be a way to incorporate both the new and the old without buying into the world. That said, reading the current social/political/ and even cultural climates… I think we should be shifting our attention to the priestly role of fathers at home. At least, address it in the context of your initial conversation on the purpose of our faith. I would like to know what you think? Given the decline in population, vocations, and church attendance/retention in the West, shouldn’t the Church return to it’s missionary roots? Shouldn’t we be asking ourselves, what drove the initial spread into the Greek and Roman world?
Many years ago I said to a Catholic priest that if one tries and strains one can see the still living kernel of The Mass in the Novus Ordo Mass. He replied ' My dear girl, the Roman Catholic Church is not meant to be a via negativa. Unanswerable!
I must ask, do you think that the Bishops (and perhaps Pope) listen to us if we write them? I've been thinking about it but I feel dubious that they will care about the little finicky Latin Mass people. I spent a long time removed from my baptized faith. I am grateful that I was born at a time and into a family where that was an important sacrament to bestow unto a child even if the immediate family was lacking in daily devotion to the faith. Eventually I found my way back and it was seeing an old church only minimally destroyed by modern changes which started it. It was the beauty and the grandeur that started me back as I became ready. And then I found that the leadership of the Church was unwilling to stand up for me and others like me when we needed their support to maintain our bodily integrity in the face of some sure evil and later found myself at a modernized church on Ash Wednesday where there was hand sanitizer on the alter. I didn't go back until Easter except for Stations of the Cross with my father at his fairly modern church but still all of these places seemed to have had something removed. I simply didn't know what. I've told this story before but it strikes me so much that later on Easter when I found a slightly less off-putting church, I stayed for several months but was still bothered by something seriously feeling wrong about it all. There seemed to be very little reverence for the whole thing which bothered me, but I didn't know what else to do. I visited the church of a friend who is a Baptist at her invitation (taking an early mass at mine that day) and I knew my more clearly that the church had gone quite Protestant. I was seeing clearer and I was not feeling good. It took until the beginning of fall, but I found my way to a Latin Mass, as prescribed by Pope Benedict and it was incredible to me how quickly everything clicked. Reverence is something that I can understand and feel now. I understand the sacrifice in a way that I never quite got at the Novus Ordo. The music feels appropriate and everything seems to be in place. I'm still finding my place in the community there but I am so grateful to have this available close to me.
Hi Brian--always enjoy your insightful videos. I'm struck by your disappointment in the Novus Ordo Mass. How bad exactly are these Masses up there in Canada? Matt Fradd has a similar slant and he lives in Steubenville! I'm here in DC and have an array of gorgeous Novus Ordo masses to attend where both the mystical and the logos are on display. Keep chargin' Brian...your critical thinking skills are inspirational! Thad
A profound testimony of the truth of the Catholic faith is the number of people who hate Jesus Christ and his church who are compelled to enter to drstroy it.
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As a priest in his 70’s, it warms my heart to hear a man your age making such good sense and speaking it so courageously. The Tridentine Mass, the Mass of the Ages, will be the future and everlasting Mass as well. Thank you for continuing to fight the good fight.
Normally I’m a NO attendee but noticeable is the younger congregation when I get to a TLM occasionally…. The young thirst for something transcendent and with gravitas…
In your 70's Father, you have lived through the collapse from the beginning. Covert, former Lutheran pastor here, same age as you. Yes it has been quite a journey.
I thank you for your priesthood, Father 🙏♥️
@@dominicpardo4783 You’ve reached the wrong conclusion, Dominic Pardo, and your life would get a lot more interesting if you were to open your mind and your heart to Jesus Christ.
@@dominicpardo4783 there’s scant evidence you exist. Who cares?
Most of the things you believe you can’t prove, you just accept.
God isn’t to be proven, He is to be experienced. You can experience God and change your life, now and forever.
It will definitely help with your anger.
Hi Brian. I am a recent convert from Atheism. I have a triple major in science (geology/chemistry/geography) and absolutely never imagined being Christian. What turned me to recognising the lord's presence in my life was my love for my son. I am a solo-Dad and have always tried to prepare my son for his future in a self-less realistic way. I felt that I desperately needed to: 1/ give him (Riley) a belief system for if I past away. 2/ give Riley the Morales that he needed to nullify the effects of a decadent western society. 3/ fill his life with love. . . I quickly found that I was drawn heavily towards the Roman Catholic church. Consequently, and as a result of the research I did, Riley and I have found the Holy Trinity. . . Hope that might help. If we can appeal to the self-less love (real love) that people have for others, and their commitment to ensuring the spiritual welfare of the "other" - over their own ideas of "self".
Genuine fatherhood is a shadow of the divine Father.
you & your son are now in my daily prayers! Welcome home! Please don’t forget to pray the rosary daily . May our Lord continue to bless you both. Mama Mary please continue to protect him & his son 🙏
Welcome home 🙏🙏
Honestly that's beautiful man. Thank you so much for sharing !
God bless you and Riley !
As an immigrant and a non-native English (or Spanish) speaker, I very much appreciate how a tridentine mass in Latin is the most inclusive of mass offerings.
The TLM rises above ethnicity and nationality. On account of it being a “dead” language, no person at the TLM is a native Latin speaker, there are no new or evolving Latin colloquialisms to keep up with, and no ethnic, linguistic, or national group has a greater “claim” to the TLM than any other. At Latin mass, we are equally foreign. And everyone even gets to have a funny accent. It is a glorious thing and I have never felt more at home.
You hit the nail on the head.
I grew up in a predominantly Hispanic community. Without the unifying TLM you end up with is a Spanish Church and English speaking church with totally different liturgy and separation. Latin the universal language is what made the church truly Catholic/universal.
Love this
@@commercialrealestatephilos605 Exactly. My parish has English and Spanish masses, which is on one level wonderful but it also unavoidably also auto-segregates the parishioners by linguistic background. The TLM is equally linguistically un/accessible to everyone, we all sit at the same table.
@@victoriathorlacius874 Yes, We can all equally not understand what is being said.
Sorry, grew up in the Latin Mass. No intention of going back to the Mass in a language that was not even the Mass of the Apostles and 4 centuries of Martyrs.
Pushing the TLM as the “ true Mass “ is basically telling all devout Catholics who have been attending Mass in the Vernacular and Latin before Vatican II, that they have been attending the “ wrong “ Mass.
That their worship is just not up to par and that receiving the Eucharist on the hand is “ sacrilegious “.
Sorry that you converted to the Catholic Church and did not find it up to “ your “ expectations.
Dear Brian! How eloquently you state exactly the problem. At 14:01, “So why are we doing everything we can to look like the world?” Spot on. Glad to be one of your Reinforcements!
I've been telling this exact same thing to my peers at our church. We keep trying to offer people a second class of what they receive in the world instead of offering something outside the world.
Well said, Amen.
The traditions of the TLM are beautiful, along with beautiful architecture and music and reverence for the Eucharist. But don’t forget that the atheist revolutions in Mexico, France, and Eastern Europe all happened before Vatican II. Liturgy alone cannot do the job if priests preach poorly, if parish school teachers don’t catechize, if Catholic bishops don’t condemn heretical politicians. The liturgy is only part of the solution.
Glad to know that I am not the only one that holds those opinions.
What good is reverence and beauty if people reject it outright?
True, but none of those other things are the source and summit of Christian life. The Mass is a part of the solution, but it's the main part.
@@shane8037 changing liturgical practices which constitute a single hour on a Sunday out of a 148 hour week will not change much. The issue is cultural, not liturgical. Most Catholics don’t even attend Mass, so it wouldn’t be very helpful. Preaching/catechesis should be the focus. As St. Paul says in Romans 10:14: preaching -> faith/revival -> cultural change -> reverence in liturgy. The chain starts with preaching.
@@mosesking2923 if the TLM wasn’t a big deal, they wouldn’t try to suppress it
@@shane8037 its not the mass, it's the eucharist
Thank you, this was extremely helpful. My husband and I, along with 9 other couples, were invited to speak at our diocese to be included in the documents submitted for the upcoming synod. This video was incredibly helpful in communicating what we’ve been trying to express!
I'm a youth leader in my parish and diocesan levels, I have the same thoughts as you do; sharing this message during the synod. Hopefully it lights a spark in the hearts of the people, wether it's added to the full document or not.
Thank you Brian. Your absolutely right about the Church becoming too secular. The Latin Mass has the spiritual power to draw souls
One Latin Mass began my conversion from 15 yrs of Protestantism-ONE. It’s THAT powerful & potent.
I know this is going to be good, even before I hear it!
Brian has an intelligent, faithful, and fair minded approach to most things.
We could all use a dose of that these days.
God bless everyone! 🌷
"Renewal". I am an old man. I have been listening to blather about renewal ever since I was 14. The results? Decline, collapse, confusion, diminution.
Dear Brian; thank you for the video I just saw. I am embarrassed that so much good work comes from you who are new Catholics rather than we who were raised in the Faith. Humbly I am grateful. God bless you.
I agree with you. I am a cradle Catholic as well and I watch a ton of conversion stories because I find them so interesting and inspirational to listen to other peoples stories as to how they came to believing in the Catholic Faith, The One True faith. Usually after a great struggle of resistance to becoming Catholic or having to overcome a great prejudice or misconception about our faith and what it teaches.
Because they have had to dig deep and do their homework as well as overcome many misconceptions and untruths about the Catholic Faith once they realize the truth they are On Fire where us Cradle Catholics have just kind of accepted it as truth and never had to dig as far and as deep as a convert has to. Unfortunately we also lose many Catholics to other religions because they never really learn their faith either and get duped by heretical protestants or other religions.
St. Paul was a convert and wrote more then all the apostles xD its a trend from the start hahaha.
Read the lives of the saints. It's all there, no Latin or clown mass.
Try to understand how they found the transcendental in their search for the living God.
@13:55 "So why are we as a church, doing everything we can to look like the world........that we can't[and shouldn't] compete with?"
Pretty profound point right there Brian Holdsworth!!!
We are the "Original Christians"
Wow! You just synthesized years of thoughts that I have had circling my head since forever. I converted ten years ago and never looked back. You just defined what I went through very clearly. Hitting that subscribe button now!!! Thank you for your work!!
I am more convinced of the necessity of the Church to evangelize by the witness of the Converts who distill and refine my and other cradle Catholic's understanding of the faith I thank God for them.
"Do the new mass the way it was intended to be implemented." Yes! We go to a parish that is NO but has sacred music only, boy alter servers only, ad orientum, receiving kneeling and on the tongue only, it's beautiful. We asked the priest why he does the Mass like this, so different from everyone else around and his answer was this is how it was meant to be.
I agree. That’s how my parish is also. The difference is amazing compared to other parishes I’ve attended
What's wrong with girl altar servers?
But the problem is that it is being done the way it was intended to be implemented.
It's just that everyone was desperate to justify a fake Mass being forcibly thrust on the faithful in the 70s that everyone pretends that that wasn't the case.
Why did this Novus Ordo need to be made? Why was there an update necessary so extreme that it formed a break in continuity? The truth is, it wasn't necessary, and it's not the true Mass of the Church and it will never be more than the cudgel of modernists to beat the Church out of the church buildings.
The men who wrote it were faithless and in many instances later deemed schismatic. Why should we simply assume that their works would not bear similar fruit? After all, it does all the time.
Also, let's point out the absurdity of doing the NO, defined by its considerable differences from the Mass since the days of Peter, in the style of said Mass; at that point, do the real thing, not the cheap imitation.
Between the one Mass true in all places at all times and the "Mass" so flexible it can include luchadores and clowns and not be attacked for liturgical abuse by its most ardent proponents, the "Mass" that needs to be bent back into shape to the chagrin of those who want it, the choice should be so easy, it ought be a human instinct.
God bless your priest. I pray that all priests may wake up to this truth.
I always read these comments: " well MY parish does it right..." It looks like gloating. Your "unicorn" parish represent 20% maybe. And what will happen when orthodox priest is moved? And you get new priest? It's not supposed to be like that! Very annoying these comments are..smh
This is EXACTLY what I have been trying to express!!! Thank you, Thank you, Brian. BlesSINGs!
Exactly. Being in the world but not of the world. We don't need to worship/speak/act like the world. We need to stand as a rock in the storm, a firm plot of land, a resting place. Something larger than us, that asks more of us than the world.
Well said! I agree with everything you pointed out. Your witness is truly beautiful. Thank you.
"You don't need to be sick to help the sick."
bro, support your convoy!!! say a rosary for them!!
the biggest mistake we will make in this moment in the church is NOT to enroll in this synod process to be a presence of the voice calling for faithfulness. otherwise the ones that will lead us astray will be the only voice.
Brian, Truth as you have presented it, has a glorious way of inflicting that Glorious Pain, that hits the Heart and the tear ducts in great synchronicity. Love your work.
As an atheist who is exploring converting to Catholicism I wonder what can be done about the wake of Vatican II. Given the top down structure of the church and the established nature of the council, and the harm separatist attitudes on both sides of the issue have. Is there even room for a traditional interpretation of vatican 2 within the current church hierarchy? I ask these things as an outsider seeking to understand.
Thank you and may God be truly glorified
While I get what you are saying here I just wanted to say that the primary responsibility of the Church is to defend and protect the deposit of faith that was given by Christ and passed down through the Apostles and tradition for centuries. Evangelizing is only second to this because if the deposit of faith became corrupted, no amount of evangelization of lies, would be a godly thing for us to do. The attacks against the truth contained in the deposit of faith within the Catholic Church have been happening for over 100 years now, long before Vatican 2 or the changes in the liturgy.
The V2 changes in the Sacraments came about because of the attacks against the well established theological truth contained in the deposit of faith. When you turn the people's attention in the Liturgy away from God and toward people, you eventually water down the commitment to Catholic theology. Only then can you successfully corrupt enough believers to try to change the deposit of faith. Changes which we are now seeing coming out of the Germany, the Vatican, Francis, James Martin, Bishop Barron and so many more.
The liturgy is not what is under attack now. That battle was fought long ago and it was lost to the modernists and heretics. The battle now is directly against the deposit of faith. Directly against tradition and all traditional and well established Catholic theology. Alas, the attack now, is against Christ himself!
The current battle for the TLM is really, when gotten to its roots, is about defending the deposit of faith. The TLM is simply the mode by which true Christians try to align themselves with the truth of the traditional deposit of faith that Christ gave us through his preaching and that of the Apostles as they passed to us through tradition. Just remember, the TLM is about defending the truth in Christ and not allowing our attention to be diverted from Christ centered worship to the personalities in the laity that seek, knowingly or not, to steel glory from Christ in his worship. And in so doing, water down and destroy the deposit of faith. And in the end, it is an attempt to destroy the Church. Something that, in the end, Christ will not let happen, regardless of what we do or don't do. I just wouldn't want to be in the shoes of those that have turned against Christ's truth as expressed in the deposit of faith.
Good consice info
Thank you for this deeply important reminder.
Quality Content! Thank you for making this!
I'm in Maine, USA and like you as an introvert, I am always contemplating when chipping the ice or snow-blowing the driveway. I have always enjoyed your content. I've always attended a N.O. Mass. I'm trying to get to look for and attend a Traditional Latin Mass this year. God bless Brian!
There is a safe Latin mass with valid priests in Lawrence off 495. I see some people from Maine coming down to it. Sacred heart church s. Broadway
Hear hear. And Amen! From a fellow convert.
The true mass of the Latin rite. My grown children who were raised and confirmed on the novus ordo mass, have rediscovered the Latin rite. Amen
Amen.
Latin.. so what?
Go to mass in Italian if you want.
@@Kitiwake you mean an Italian novus ordo mass, the true Latin rite mass is what I'm talking about.
If Vatican 2 is invalid, then So is Trent?
@@joecappello6043 what difference does the language make?
Lord Jesus Christ unite us through Your Love 💕
I’m really thankful I took the time to watch this today, thank you!
May god bless you.... my brother in christ you inspire me and i thank you for that.
Brian I pray that my 'intellectual' sons run across your channel, and actually stop and listen. I have tried sharing your videos with them, but anything coming from mom is 'nyah'. Thank you for this insightful video full of the Holy Spirit. Keep it up!
I know exactly how you feel. All we can do is keep praying for them. We may not even know til after our death the result of our prayers.
Greg Bahnsen has good stuff :)
Beautifully and thoughtfully presented, Brian.
I think we need to evangelize our local Parishes
Most excellent Brian ~ ❤️🙏🏻🌹 ~
I have been to Catholic communities with vibrant, reverent masses in a variety of cultural contexts: an African-American community with a gospel choir and “southern” style preaching, a latino community with Latin American style music, A Jesuit college with the entire congregation belting out gather hymnal folk style songs, a mass with organ and hymns at Catholic U in the basilica, A more traditional community with the TLM and women veiling, A charismatic community with hands in the air and modern worship songs. All Of these were moving to me because of the witness of faith of the community even if it wasn’t my preferred style of worship. Different people are engaged and evangelized in different ways. Let’s let different communities worship in their cultural context and the health of the community well evangelize. Yes Gregorian chant has a certain pride of place because of it’s history, and there are a good ways to work it in to most masses especially given certain feasts and liturgical seasons, but it won’t be the best way to worship in every instance.
I like the marketing analogy but when the church’s market is literally every human on the planet, we can’t niche down to what works for me in experiencing the numinous. This is one of the strengths of the ordinary form of the mass is its adaptability to a variety of cultural contexts. And at a time when the Catholic Church is less European than it has been at any time in the last millennia and a half, it makes sense to have that flexibility. You are right that part of the mission of the church is to evangelize but that is not the entire mission. The mission of the church is to be one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic. I think evangelization falls mostly under apostolic. But we cannot forget that the church is also Catholic meaning universal. It is for all people and all cultures. Yes, the church is also holy so it must also stand apart and elevate the good, true, and beautiful elements of that culture and not succumb to the more perverse parts of it. And we also must be one, united. And that at least partially comes from recognizing the goodness and beauty of those who are different and not adopting an attitude of superiority as if my mode of spirituality and worship is objectively the best. I’m not saying that’s what you are doing necessarily but it’s a temptation we all should keep in mind. Thanks, Brian, for this video. Very thought provoking. I always appreciate your perspective 👍
Wise words my friend, couldn't agree more!
@Elizabeth Bennett I agree with everything you said except for your “and frankly.” That’s fine that you have an opinion but there are many people who are drawn deeper into the liturgy by more contemporary and charismatic music. And remember that the mass is not only sacrifice and the crucifixion but also a celebration, a meal, and the resurrection. The body and blood we receive is his risen glorified body. Joy (as wel as solemnity) is appropriate.
AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T GO FULL JAMES MARTIN, WE GOOD
I'm only half way through this video and, dude, you're totally hitting the nail on the head.
and the nail is going through the palm of christ
I have always believed that the thing that draws people to the Catholic faith is the things that are seen from the outside as specifically Catholic....its traditional practices and beliefs stand in such a contradiction to the world ..A couple of years ago as part of parish renewal we started to run Alpha(which I completed even though it is clearly incompatible with the Catholic understanding of what the Church is and the Sacraments wrapped up in a slick format)) Without fail every week after the video presentation and we withdrew into our discussion groups the non Catholics who were attending without skipping a beat bypassed the presented topics and wanted to know about Catholic 'stuff' the Papacy, the saints, Our Lady, the Priesthood.......It confirmed to me that it was the very things that set us apart from evangelical protestantism and the secular world is what people are drawn to....
Catholics living and worshipping as Catholics visibly is a powerful means of evangelization
This is word by word my exact same experience. I converted recently and I have to do a constant effort to remove all the distractions in the new mass.
Thank you Brian! Once again I agree 100%
Thank you for this presentation which brings clarity as we receive endless evangelization material that rarely gets to the heart of the matter as you have done.
This is the finest statement on the Faith and Evangelization that I have heard in a long time. Simply masterful. And TRUE. It comports with the rest of what we know about the Faith..
Thanks Brian, your words are a gift as usual. Glory to Jesus Christ!
I go to the taize mass it’s got beautiful Latin singing in it with no lights and candles I love singing during mass it raises one’s spirits to heaven
Thank you for this. Your thoughts echo mine. This past Sunday I thought I might have to move parishes, but knew any other parish would be the same. The Mass feels dead and rote, the people bored and disinterested. It breaks my heart.
I have exact experience when friend took me to Hills Song church, I felt I am in a concert nothing sacred
The Synodal Listening Process is a canard.
The Holy Father has already decided the path he will take.
You are right about the Mass.
It should be different than anything else we do during the week.
The language, music, gestures, posture, surroundings should be other worldly.
Especially, how we receive the Eucharist, should be radically different than how we receive something else outside of the Mass.
Actually not a canard. It is a deception and manipulation. You should see the questions that our Bishop sent for us, who are leaders of discussion groups are to ask. All bullshit and buzzwords. There is no way to get any sensible answers to the questions. They are designed to waste the time of those who show up, insult my intelligence. I am going to our Priest and tell him to find someone else to do this bullshit dirty work so the Bishop can submit what he has already written and say it came from us. No reason to cooperate in his lying and the lying of Bergoglio.
Yes
As always, 3 Aves for you 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻
Thank you - that was so lovely and calm! Have shared. God bless.
First videos of yours that I've watched in a while, LOVE IT - I will get subscribed so I don't have to depend on algorithms. Awesome.
I loved the marketing analogy…Yes…”revealing the product” not “changing” the product to attract those who would otherwise be uninterested…
We need a thousand more like Pope Francis. A hundred thousand more.
I am 67.
At the TLM I am older than everybody else, including the Priests.
At the NO, I'm one of the youngsters.
Thank you Brian.
We are trying to get faithful Catholics to send in their thoughts to their local diocesan representatives for the "Synodal Way" lets have the Traditional Voice heard. Ignore their questions they're loaded, just write about what the Church really needs to do. Please see our latest Clear Vision Catholics blog post and take a look at the Christendom Rising 3
I think one of the problems that we have right now in the church is that instead of calling people out of sickness and out of sin, we are calling people into sickness and into sin in certain congregations and with certain teachings.
Now I don't think this is a failure of the catechisms, but rather a failure of the Western culture of Catholicism and it's contempt for itself. The culturally Catholic phenomenon, commonly rebranded as religion by Protestants. Put principally people acting in a way that is antithetical to the teachings of Christ and our historical understanding of the role of the church in the world.
I used to hold bishops in high regard. Now, much less so. Am I the only one?
No. They are generally mediocre or very bad.
I live in Germany. I guess 80% of our bishops are leading people astray.
In a mansion, there are many different flights of stairs. Each unique, but each with the same function, to raise those who would take them to greater heights. Latin Mass, Novus Ordo, our many unique and diverse rites, are all staircases built in the same house. One staircase ought not be jealous of the others. Nor should one be prideful that it was first among many or that the most souls have ascended there. Rather, what we need is complete humility, thankfulness, and love when discerning the methods by which we approach the Most Holy Eucharist. It pains me to see the enthusiasm of those who attend Latin Mass turn into declarations of superior worship or worse yet to set themselves as adversaries of local ordinaries and the Holy See. It also pains me to see repression of the Latin Mass when clearly it is leading many souls to heaven. The privilege of divine diversity of worship must be embraced with the discipline of humility and gratitude that our loving God should give us any Rites at all, that the Incarnate God, has given us these blessed sacraments at all. What did St. Paul say to those who bickered over which teacher's authority was more pure? Can Jesus be divided? Or is there only one? I find that I pray far better in the Novus Ordo, offering myself as a living sacrifice on the altar to be joined with Christ's great sacrifice. I find the Latin Mass to be a challenge for my attention, understanding, and charism. However, I know others who would say the same about the Novus Ordo. Let us honor every tradition that the Lord has granted us and let the loudest call for the continued practice of all, be the unity, humility, and love which is generated from each.
Amen.
Thank you, Brain! I enjoy listening to your content. I was an atheist who God found in the desert while touring in Iraq. It was amazing and terrifying. I was baptized at 30 yrs old in a Lutheran Church. I serve there now as Director of Faith. I struggle with the same questions you bring up. This content made me wonder if it's possible for God to speak to His children (even the lost sheep like me) despite the "flavor" of the church. I love the Catholic Church! And have found non-denominational productions unsettling. I visited the Church of the Nativity (Palestine) this Summer, which is spectacular. But I got the sense I was watching "pharisees" perform on stage. I sense the Holy Spirit while sharing a meal with another person. Or in a simple Lutheran Church made of wood and the Word of God spoken by simple people like me. I'm reminded that I'm human, not Holy, and wonder at God's love for His earthly creation. Please keep the content coming! It's much needed.
More get together Podcasts with other lay people! Family vibes, activities, community events, etc. Mass in the beautiful surrounding of imagery of Bibical events, feels so special, to listen to the Scripture and be together with others that are within gathered to give thanks, praise and glory! Song are wonderful prayers, with soul! You fix it together with your parish family, a place of refuge and redemption , and an amazingly infinite possibility of God’s presence in each believer. Especially in ceremony of the transfiguration of Jesus’ body and blood. Wonderful communion! Wonderful feeling of Jesus’ proclamation. A place of very deep graditude. Life of the Family, the Blessed Rosary, the story, pray, pray, pray Medjugorje. I enjoy your experience and opinions, It’s enspirational that your love of the Lord has given you hope for all children . Pray for Priests, God’s grace blest for our needs, guidance with wisdom, help, as does Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, etc. in.prayerful intercession. God bless you on your journey!
Prayers that this whole process is actually fruitful
Reverent Novus Ordo is the answer, as Pope Francis has made abundantly clear. That includes a view of the liturgical documents that is aligned with the pontiff's thinking. So, practically, can there be reverent guitar music at a Mass that lifts the soul to God? Yes. The TLM does not adequately reflect the mission of Vatican II, though it of course is good and beautiful in its own way, and for its own time, which is not now.
Thank you Brian! You summed up perfectly the miscalculation I believe many of our Church leaders are making in evangelizing our beautiful Catholic Traditions and teachings. The common reaction seems to be oriented to hiding many of the things that make us distinctly Catholic. In a time where evil has become so bold that it has convinced the world that it is good, the Catholic Church has become more timid about revealing the true spirituality that she possesses. I've noticed that our younger priests as well as some of our younger parishioners being drawn to the more traditional practices and liturgy that make us distinctly Catholic yet our Holy Father seems to marginalize them. We need to pray and trust in God's providence that these divisions in are Church are being drawn into the open so they can be exposed and corrected. I join you in praying the leaders and laity of our faith open the graces given to them to achieve bringing the boldness back to the Roman Catholic Church. God bless you for all you do and stay bold!
In Christ,
Dan
Love your work; keep chipping away at your insights, and, of course, the ice. Your insights are much needed and always inspirational.
Thank you Brian! Wish the Tridentine Mass would also make Pope Francis weep! In awe and adoration and in humility in the experience of the outpouring of God’s love and grace! Just as it did for Saint Francis. What a vast difference between the two persons with the same name.
How dare you judge what makes our Pope weep. Or judge whether his experience is one of awe, adoration and humility in the presence of God's love and grace. I think both Francis' would pray for you not to judge lest you be judged.
@@maryleblanc2760 take care that you don’t fall into papal idolatry. Critiquing the person is different from criticizing the Office. And if you read a little carefully you might notice it’s a wish and more like a prayer that he feels the greatness of the Tridentine Mass and its sacred rites. Not a judgment. Hope that clarifies. However, if it doesn’t, let’s just pray for each other, and for the Pope. That God, who is the Judge, would give us al the graces we need to worship Him in the manner most fitting. God bless.
Totally agree!!! Vatican 2 started the nosedive of the church and we are now pulling the throttle back to right the church. Bring back TLM!!!
????? Could you clarify?
Thank You! God Bless!
Let’s Roll!!! Bring back the TLM!!!
Out with the new. In with the old
Great video. Heartfelt and well thought out. And respectful. God bless you
The mass is worship, we worship god because we are in awe of him. Is the how, of how we worship together, as important as that we worship as one community? The coming together and love we show each other and our neighbours who we live amongst is the key to evangelizing. While we worship as one body we will be led by god to do the best form of worship.
Your letter is so touching but as a 60 year old Catholic man I have come to reject the novus ordo and much of the false theologies resulting from Vatican II.The SSPX have it right.The way forward is on the Bark of Tradition.
Hey Brian, great video. Minor point: sensus fidelium isn't the "consensus of the faithful", but rather the "sense of the faithful". Small change, but big difference in meaning.
This video opens with an excellent question. I take it your answer is a return to the Latin Mass. As a latin trained alter server from 1960 cradel catholic, my experience not a mystical one. Moving our community toward a reverent celebration by prayer and education is a start. My vision of the target audience is of people in pain seeking transcendence. Buddhism does a great job of marketing by promising relief from pain. Our audience must believe that their pain has meaning. With Jesus we take up the cross. All the great Catholic mystics point to the cross.
Needed to be said. We are not winning this battle for the culture with the “new evangelization”. Time for the “new new evangelization”. Because if we don’t, the “new new new evangelization” will be in the catacombs
Very thoughtful video. Thank you for sharing your views.
I typically go to a TLM however occasionally I have to go to the NO mass. Like last night for Ash Wednesday and I have to say that every time I go I just have to fight the entire time my anger. My anger at the priest for doing things that he shouldn't be doing in the liturgy, anger at the people for wearing immodest clothing, or talking during the mass, or talking after the mass when I'm trying to pray. I try to stay focused on Jesus and block all that out but it is very difficult.
In the Eastern rite Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches, we concentrate on worrying about ourselves, about whether or not we're doing what we ought to be doing, and we let other people worry about themselves. It is incredibly freeing to recognize that I am not responsible for what other people do or don't do, and I urge you to try it for your own peace's sake the next time you have to go to an NO Mass.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 it's not about that. It's about having an atmosphere of reverence and respect for others. It's about having a minimum of distractions to be able to focus on prayer. It's not about worry with what others are doing.
@@KMF3, by not worrying about what other people are doing, one creates an inner silence that creates an atmosphere conducive to worship and contemplation.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 ok I'm not worried about what they are doing it is just incredibly annoying, disrespectful and distracting. I'm maybe not where you are where I'm able to block all that out.
Welcome to the faith.
We need more coverts because converts are truly searching for GOD
Using very broad brush strokes I'd have to say most Catholics don't even know the faith the church or JESUS. To have new faithful people is the real revitalizer to complete man's purpose that GOD THE FATHER Has planned for us all even before creation itself
Keep up the good work
To be of faith is not easy we must be prepared to suffer in this world, for the meek shall inherit the whole world
Thank you Brian for another insightful video! God bless you!! 🙏
@16:33 "The fact that you have something that they don't have" is actually a saying in AA which gets many if not all of its teachings from Catholicism which is why it works.(Shhhhh, that's suppose to be a secret and we are not supposed to talk about religion or politics which is a very wise tradition established in AA)
Ironically, it also works because we are all broken(as in if the Doctor shot himself in the leg) and can identify with the pain and suffering of another alcoholic and thus make some suggestions on how to get better.
Options for those in search of solemn faithful liturgy, I might suggest your local Anglican Ordinariate Catholic parishes ( Tridentine Mass in English is licitly offered) or a Byzantine Rite Eastern Catholic Mass. Both are open to all Catholics.
Amen ! but both of these are in the crosshairs as well , with the jimmy martins and his ilk , pius Catholicity is a abomination.
Brilliant! Go more out to cut ice before your show😁. May God bless you, your family and all watching!
The unfortunate fact of the matter is that pachapapa francis already has the "conclusion" of this synod written; he has shown this to be the case in his past synods: he pretends to listen to the "voice of the faithful" as an excuse to promote his radical agenda.
The irony of this whole situation is that the TLM is closer to the description of Sacrosanctum Concilium than the way many Novus Ordos are celebrated.
Continuing the sales analogy - remember that the best customer is often the one you already have. Seems like stemming the tide of folks leaving would be a worthy goal along with prospecting for new converts. Definitely agree that the Latin mass is a strength and differentiator for Catholicism - it offers tradition that few other religions can offer. Leverage that strength!
Thank you for your clarity and heartfelt words. I agree that Christianity has what nobody has and should be marketize better. That sense of sacre and holy and mystery that goes beyond matter and beyond knowledge and even beyond Love as we know here on earth is what made me Catholic nine Easter ago at 50 after a life in search of God in any possible direction. But….But … it was not a Latin mass. It was a good mass performed by a good priest that was able to channel all that you find in the Latin mass also in each single word of the regular mass. A good priest able to cry at the elevation, able to allow 5 Sunday masses with different appealing characters, exactly to satisfy a public of such a different views. We are in a university town with a large rural surrounding and lot of charismatic Catholics. Since Covid started we now have also a Latin mass. Where many student come. As at at the other masses. But my point is that any mass can be a mystical experience. I cry often at the elevation or around it because of the presence of the HOly Spirit, not because of the type of mass I am in. The point is how you do it. Not only what you do it. I love charismatic masses and worshipping, but I love Gregorian chant. BOTh blow me in the space where I perceive His presence. We had Alpha, we will have this year a big new catholic alternative. They brought friendship and love in the community and some people new. But. What has changed my life are the Bible studies (Ascension press) in group. They made me encounter the Word and see it in the heart of the others. And the feasts in the parking lot or in the school gym. At the community events we know each other and this fulfill the second part of the great commandment of Jesus. We love each other. To know other is to love them. To work together is to know each other. I was searching God and I found God and his family. To conclude, the point is to welcome different hungers and desires and fulfill them with the Love of God which comes only from open hearts that have accepted Him. The individual, the priest is important and the people around him that organize are important. They all need to encounter Christ to be able to meet Him in the heart of the hungry sheep. All this fuss about Latin mass and changing things is the devil noise that distracts us from the point: we have the Holy Eucharist, we have the Presence, but we need to internalize it personally and deeply, to be able to offer it to other that are looking for it in many different way. I agree with you one of the way is the Latin mass and should not disappear as all the other good thing made in respect of Tradition and magisterium. The point is to make them in the right way with the open heart of Jesus. Priests and parishioners need to be evangelize first, may be. Sorry for length. Thanks for your amazing program. God bless you and your family.
Don't suppose the faith, don't impose the faith, do propose the faith.
I hope this doesn’t sound cynical but is anybody keeping a careful record of what exactly the laity calls for in this synodal process rather than just the INTERPRETATION of what we call for by the hierarchy?
Cynicism is needed , the church has destroyed it's own moral authority and esteem by its own abuses.
I admire your thoughtful, and sensible approach to controversial topics of discussion, such as this. Thank you for for charitable zeal.
Just like once we had beautiful cathedrals that spoke for themselves about the beauty used to glorify Our Lord for poor and rich, intellectual and illiterate to basic buildings, the same way we have move towards practices that makes you wonder if you really are pleasing God.
You hit the nail on the head again. Thanks!
Fabulous Thank you!
Great video. I don’t agree with some of your conclusions but I think the way in which you approach the conversation is the way to move forward.
There’s so much beauty in our Catholic faith and in our millenary heritage. There has to be a way to incorporate both the new and the old without buying into the world.
That said, reading the current social/political/ and even cultural climates… I think we should be shifting our attention to the priestly role of fathers at home. At least, address it in the context of your initial conversation on the purpose of our faith.
I would like to know what you think?
Given the decline in population, vocations, and church attendance/retention in the West, shouldn’t the Church return to it’s missionary roots? Shouldn’t we be asking ourselves, what drove the initial spread into the Greek and Roman world?
Brian, living in Wisconsin i have chipped ice way to many times.
Many years ago I said to a Catholic priest that if one tries and strains one can see the still living
kernel of The Mass in the Novus Ordo Mass. He replied ' My dear girl, the Roman Catholic Church
is not meant to be a via negativa. Unanswerable!
I must ask, do you think that the Bishops (and perhaps Pope) listen to us if we write them? I've been thinking about it but I feel dubious that they will care about the little finicky Latin Mass people.
I spent a long time removed from my baptized faith. I am grateful that I was born at a time and into a family where that was an important sacrament to bestow unto a child even if the immediate family was lacking in daily devotion to the faith. Eventually I found my way back and it was seeing an old church only minimally destroyed by modern changes which started it. It was the beauty and the grandeur that started me back as I became ready. And then I found that the leadership of the Church was unwilling to stand up for me and others like me when we needed their support to maintain our bodily integrity in the face of some sure evil and later found myself at a modernized church on Ash Wednesday where there was hand sanitizer on the alter. I didn't go back until Easter except for Stations of the Cross with my father at his fairly modern church but still all of these places seemed to have had something removed. I simply didn't know what. I've told this story before but it strikes me so much that later on Easter when I found a slightly less off-putting church, I stayed for several months but was still bothered by something seriously feeling wrong about it all. There seemed to be very little reverence for the whole thing which bothered me, but I didn't know what else to do. I visited the church of a friend who is a Baptist at her invitation (taking an early mass at mine that day) and I knew my more clearly that the church had gone quite Protestant. I was seeing clearer and I was not feeling good. It took until the beginning of fall, but I found my way to a Latin Mass, as prescribed by Pope Benedict and it was incredible to me how quickly everything clicked. Reverence is something that I can understand and feel now. I understand the sacrifice in a way that I never quite got at the Novus Ordo. The music feels appropriate and everything seems to be in place.
I'm still finding my place in the community there but I am so grateful to have this available close to me.
Hi Brian--always enjoy your insightful videos. I'm struck by your disappointment in the Novus Ordo Mass. How bad exactly are these Masses up there in Canada? Matt Fradd has a similar slant and he lives in Steubenville! I'm here in DC and have an array of gorgeous Novus Ordo masses to attend where both the mystical and the logos are on display. Keep chargin' Brian...your critical thinking skills are inspirational! Thad
Great, although Ordinary Form Latin Mass exists and it's beautiful, just very few people know about it.
A profound testimony of the truth of the Catholic faith is the number of people who hate Jesus Christ and his church who are compelled to enter to drstroy it.