Japanese minister Nobusuke Kishi (grandfather of the late Shinzo Abe) stopped by the Soviet Union in the 1920s on a world tour to study industry and industrial policy in places such as Europe and the USA. He was deeply impressed by the Five Year crash programs of Stalin. In the 1930s, he implemented a similar crash program (with an emphasis on heavy industry) coupled with the German ideology of the "War State" to build up industry in Manchuria, a Japanese possession at the time. Stationed in Manchuria at the time was a young lieutenant in the Japanese Army named Park Chung Hee, an ethnic Korean. He was a deep admirer of Japan's industrialization and modernization. He would end up becoming dictator of South Korea in the 60s and set South Korea on a crash program of industrialization, with an initial emphasis on heavy industry.
The Japanese held Manchuria with an iron fist but I do think they did some good by improving industrialisation and social systems in the region, and perhaps it saved millions of lives when Mao's Great Leap Forward (also known as the Second Five Year Plan) failed with abysmal results.
@@arminius6506 Mannchuria (or the northeast as the Chinese prefer to call it) is pretty much the Chinese Rust Belt now. The Shenzen area is probably the most modernized manufacturing area of China and heavy industries such as ship building are concentrated along the coast.
The video should have mentioned the role of foreign capitalists and engineers who were invited (and well paid) by the Soviet Union during this industrialization period. Albert Kahn the American industrial architect built over 500 factories in the USSR. Fred Koch helped build five modern oil refineries. His experiences in the USSR would deeply shape his future conservative political views. The Ford motor company built two plants near Moscow including the famous GAZ plant. And the Soviets imported many German-made machine tools. I believe Lenin said capitalists will sell the rope used to hang them.
You are making films for the war going on in Ukraine, but since you have already touched on this topic, maybe go for the blow and make a total of films about individual republics of the Soviet Union such as Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and so on. It is rather hard to find anywhere information on how individual republics developed and life looked like in them, because it all comes down to the entire state of the USSR. It will be nice if you take my proposal into account, best regards.
@@jankowal115 absolutely right-the only reason I added going back further is because the Series is the Cold War so to stay on theme, we’d have to take each country from post WWII-today. No problem, I like your idea
Nostalgia for the Soviet Union (in the post Soviet era) would be an interesting episode. I dare say there's a bit of that nostalgia here in the west. The Soviet Union was a known quantity and a single focus. Now in a multi polar world military planning training and equipping is much more complicated due to the proliferation of threats and challenges. That's probably true on the diplomatic front as well. Even with the emergence of the Russian republic as a near peer antagonist, we no longer have the luxury of focusing on them exclusively.
I think it helps that the Soviet Union had a few romantic elements. For example, It was multi-ethnic but _relatively_ harmonious and attempted to embrace it's diversity, even if there was a lot of (rightfully) upset occupied nations. Putin's brand of neo-fascism however is based around ethnic domination, rather than unity behind ideology. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, not to mention how corrupt the nation is, etc.
@@seventh-hydra Imagine being so braindead to call ussr which deported to labor camps and executed minorities harmonius. Putin's what? "neo fascism" 🤡🤡🤡
I'd say things are LESS chaotic now. The USSR was funding communist cells and dictators around the globe and focus was spread globally. Korea nearly fell because the US was distracted in Europe fearing a Soviet invasion and trying to rebuild Japan at a time that they were seeing a resurgence in communism. Things were also fairly multi polar back then as well, India was leading the 3rd world and playing both sides off one another, the French had a global empire and often went their own way, and Europe was like a herd of cats the US was trying to corral together while trying to keep them from flipping sides and turning red. Today things aren't really that mutli polar, or at least not much more multi polar, it's just that China has taken the place of the USSR and Russia has become the war like hermit like China once was.
actually while the biggest partt of modern Ukraine was lowly industrialized during Empire times, Donbass region was an industrial centere of entire Russian Empire.and Ussr until 1930s
The names of Chelyabinsk, Kramatorsk, and all the other Ukrainian cities named in this episode, ring with new and terrible meaning today. Thank you for this.
Good video. Slightly understressed situation with the level of existing industry prior to the Soviet Industrialization. Coal reserves in Donbas area and Iron Ore reserves in central Ukraine, as well as existing mining, steel processing and machinery and ship building facilities all within 200km radius have been unmatched in Russian Empire and pre-ww2 Soviet Union.
I just finished "The Children of Arbat" - a book about the lost generation of the Stalin era. A generation that perished in the GULAGs and WW2. That was "the heaven on earth" USSR...
1. There is no coal find in Moscow oblast, and hence no coal miners there to compete with those in Donbass and Kuzbass. In fact, Moscow Oblast, as well as most of the central russia, risides on an extremely ancient continental crust devoid of any real ressources. The open air quarries that do or did exist there mostly yielded turf for fuel, and then sand and, in some places, apatites for aluminium production. 2. It was also worth mentioning that the famine that stroke Ukraine in 1930s was the infamous Holodomor, reccognized by the majority of historians in the civilized world (but, surely, not in russia) as a man-made act of genocide. 3. Since you've done an episode on the industrialization of Ukraine, you definitely have to make one on Kazakhstan. Not just because Kazakhstan became not much less of a powerhouse of soviet mining, but because it is also one of the most illustrative example of melting pots, with people of all origins - from Volga Germans through Crimea Tatars to Chechens to Koreans - being brought and sharing this space. And also because my great-grandma fled there from the famine in Tambov oblast.
There are no any decent historian in the whole world who would say that so-called "Holodomor" was a conscious man-made act with the target of genocide. It barely has any evidence. I'm not even talking about any sense of killing loyal workers in one of the most red regions and weaken the country just before the war. I don't see any reason for Russians to blame themselves in such an obvious lie, except a bunch of traitors. Btw, "civilized world" is such a dumb racist cliche. If you would live in one of the "civilized countries", people around wouldn't appreciate it. There is a book "Піднята цілина" about those events.
Thank you for the new video! I would be interested in videos on industrialization in other areas of the USSR. I would be interested in more videos on the central Asian states in particular. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)
2:30 Oh yes, this is where the largest country in the world which conquered dozens of smaller nations to get that big has the gall to complain that it's the victim.
A very interesting video - even for someone from Estonia like me. It's worth also noting, that during the 20s and 30s SU used a lot of specialists from the West - mostly Germans, but not only. Something similar happened after the war - only then it was more machinery that had been acquired as help during the war and after that knowledge acquired via good old espionage.
There was no any espionage. Bolsheviks are wathdogs not creators. Mostly US engineers and some European engineers are factory and power stations builders in USSR.
The content, narrating, and presentation are all perfect but the sound quality is poor. Perhaps due to poor microphone or most likely sound card/system. I think it is well-worth investing some money in a high-quality mic and most importantly sound card, given the quality of the actual contents. Sound quality may not be a big deal for a native English speaker but you are reaching out to an international audience, many of whom may not be English speakers and the quality of sound definitely matters to them. Besides, sound quality has an X-ray effect, if you will, on your audience’s understanding and interest of your contents.
@caioveras7642 Yes, this guy is clueless. No idea about how the West, mainly the USA, built all aspects of the soviet economy, including the soviet bureaucracy.
Nicely informative video. Now why don't you do a video on "Operation Solo?" Now that would be good to watch. And also a few more spy video's from the Cold War era would be nice too.
Towards the end of this particular fast paced episode it began to sound as if it was a warning of things to come in regards to the UK and Brexit. Agreements and all the other aspects of economic patterns either formalized or very importantly never formalized but enmeshments of culture were damaged and for Brits the same sorts of things will pop up to hurt them. The clearly flawed Euro banking system is continued.
you're saying Stalin industrialised to build the military to fight the capitalists like the German war machine didn't go for the lebensraum 20 years later... dk, sounds like Jo had a point
Hey guys, great work! I have a pre-cold war question for you: I've recently heard that in the early part of WW2, soviet agents in both the US and Japan pushed support for war in the Pacific between these respective countries, in order to stop the threat of the Japan attacking the USSR in the east. I was wondering what your thoughts were on this?
With all the respect, the title is misleading, it was the entire Soviet Union that was industrializing. Ukraine as you said was a region in the Soviet Union, you cannot separate the industalization of the region without looking at the entire Soviet empire. With the same title you can describe Uzbekistan which became a cotton powerhouse, or Ural area as metal powerhouse.
What about Kazakhstan or other central Asian republics? Soviet policies modernized them on a unprecedented scale. No one will admit but ussr gave these countries much needed technology development scientific prowess etc. Look at these countries after the collapse Nothing but a total shithole. Sorry for sounding harsh but it's true.
Ukraine is pretty much a daily headline in the news and is getting a lot of attention from folks these days. If your goal is to attract viewers and attention, mentioning “Ukraine” in your headlines is pretty effective. Not hating just observing
I think you have this backwards. “With the same title you could describe Uzebkistan…” No, you could do that if the title had been the USSR rather than Ukraine. By mentioning Ukraine in the title, the video puts an emphasis on Ukraine and can’t just bring up Uzbekistan as the focus. The title is therefore not misleading, and instead tells us what the focus will be.
You "Forget" to mention that the Bolsheviks immediately after the revolution withdrew from the First World War, contributing decisively to the acceleration of the outcome of the war and the achievement of peace, handing over large parts of the former imperial territory with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. Not even a reference to the intervention of the Entente where 17 countries invaded post-revolutionary Russia to impose "democracy" and Western values. If you want to be a historian, that's why I'm watching you. But don't pick an uncritical side just for propaganda reasons. Every country and people has the right to be governed as it wants and to be independent BTW
@@XxLIVRAxX Lol, if Bolsheviks hadn't the popular support how they could supress white guards and the Entente invasion? Do you have anything to counter the facts i mentioned above or you replied just to accuse me for propaganda because i said something different you are used to?
Basicalaly, the short version is that the Russians came in, built everything, and then the Ukranians didn't maintain anything and all of it declined while they complained
@@milaro222 the real situation is that numbers was inflated in first place People in Ukraine while ussr was alive had less supply than at any point after ussr. Infamous queues, did yoi heard about it something?
@@Coole000 The USSR has nothing to do with it at all, in 2008 Ukraine produced 400 thousand cars a year, with a potential of up to a million, by 2014 production had decreased to almost zero. It can also be observed in other industries, deindustrialization is underway, against the background of the growth of the agricultural sector and the growth of external debt.
@@milaro222 and with cars we had russian problem in ukraine. They was building some machinery for the russian market and owned by russians. After 2014 all russian buisnesmans left the Ukrainian market, often taking the whole factory with them. LAZ making buses closed same way, ZAZ making (shitty) cars (they renewed work at 2019 btw), DEVZ and LTZ (train building factories) - they all had russian owners and was closed after 2014. And btw ukranian cars was really so-so even at the time, and now what they do looks like a garbage. And this is exactly because of soviet "numbers over the situation" politics
Remember Soviet workers built Ukraine. What Ukies Nationalist has done today. Trying erase all the memories and history of Soviet achievements. GLORY TO SOVIET POWER.
I'm sure they won't make a follow up video showing how Ukraine sold off much of their industry to foreign investors during the various revolutions in the 2000s (2014 for example). Selling off the stable wealth just for a chance to move closer to 'the west' while losing the ability to pay off enormous loans as they no longer had their main sources of industrial revenue. Similar to what happened to Russia during the 90s.
Yeah such "great" achivements like holodomor !Plus Ukrain's population was a fifth of the Soviet one ,so you didnt put more effort on it than it deserved
True Ukrainians not even 5 million people. Ukraine was habituated by different nationalities like Poles, Cossack, Russians, Romanians, Slovak, Hungarian, Jews, Tatar and more.
Lmao in the RSFSR (Russia) there were much more plants and factories than in Ukraine, and the entire industrialization of Ukraine occurred thanks to the Russians and at the expense of Russia
Yes, the Soviet Union built everything. Ukraine was one of the most important parts of that Union. And they didn't pay any money to Russia after they claimed their independence. Just the millions of Ukrainians starved to death on orders from Stalin to help pay for that industrial advancement. But not a single ruble. What ingratitude.
@@scottkrater2131 Did u know that holodomor killed milions of Russians too? South Russia and Volga region were greatly affected, also north Kazakhstan where Russians live.
@@WP-cu2pf the holodomor didn't kill any Russians, famine caused their deaths and not nearly as many as Ukraine, the holodomor refers specifically to Ukraine not the Soviet Union.
This could be explained pretty easy. They became industrial powerhouse bcos they were governed by others, not by themselves. When they gained independence in 1991 they had 51 milion ppl, before war they had 37. Meanwhile RuZZia had 148 in 1991 and before war it had 147. Ukr is perfect example for failed state. Not to mention they were 2nd poorest country in Europe before war.
Ukraine is not a failed state, it’s been holding off the military might of Russia for almost half a year Putins Russia is more likely to become a failed state, as the west will never invest again. Ukraine will rebuild, as part of Europe. Russias economy will collapse again and the west will not bail you out again
Who would have thought that Russia with enormous oil and gas exports would be richer than Ukraine which Russia destabilizes with corrupt puppet governments and waging war on their territory.
Zelensky is a coke head and Ukraine is most corrupt country in Europe has Nazis in its army so people viva Ukraine all they like the place is basket case. People here in UK are fed up of Ukrainians and their ingratitude for the help they received so are getting kicked out of the homes that hosted them and are fast becoming the largest homeless community.
Agrarian Empire was building battleships while USSR built none. Every tourist visited USSR to see architecture built during agrarian Empire not of industrial USSR.
It hilarious the listing of all the facets you note the SU used to coerce the population without the slightest hi t of irony that they are exactly the same that the US used and still use.
@@scottkrater2131I said population yet you used working class . Interesting. The US has little to no unionised working class . Down from the 30's. Capitalists have coerced them into thinking that they hold back the 'american dream' . Where do you Trickle down economics comes from.ffs. it's worked that well ,you didn't recognise it.
@@marlkarx1757 Bull, we still have Union's, not as many as in the fifties. I'm a teamsters member. And trickle down economics didn't fool every one. Besides that's not being coerced. So try again.
@@scottkrater2131union has been in decline for decades,mirroring all organised labour in the US. You'll now parrot neo lib/con talking points about why....and that my friend is the coercion.
This guy did a video on Ukraine over the last 100 years, and forgot something.... hmmm... howabout the worlds largest genocide by starvation? That didn't impact ukraine at all?
Japanese minister Nobusuke Kishi (grandfather of the late Shinzo Abe) stopped by the Soviet Union in the 1920s on a world tour to study industry and industrial policy in places such as Europe and the USA. He was deeply impressed by the Five Year crash programs of Stalin. In the 1930s, he implemented a similar crash program (with an emphasis on heavy industry) coupled with the German ideology of the "War State" to build up industry in Manchuria, a Japanese possession at the time. Stationed in Manchuria at the time was a young lieutenant in the Japanese Army named Park Chung Hee, an ethnic Korean. He was a deep admirer of Japan's industrialization and modernization. He would end up becoming dictator of South Korea in the 60s and set South Korea on a crash program of industrialization, with an initial emphasis on heavy industry.
Manchuria was the most industrialized region of China and still holds most of the heavy industry
The Japanese held Manchuria with an iron fist but I do think they did some good by improving industrialisation and social systems in the region, and perhaps it saved millions of lives when Mao's Great Leap Forward (also known as the Second Five Year Plan) failed with abysmal results.
@@arminius6506 Mannchuria (or the northeast as the Chinese prefer to call it) is pretty much the Chinese Rust Belt now. The Shenzen area is probably the most modernized manufacturing area of China and heavy industries such as ship building are concentrated along the coast.
wow
@@lucinae8512 USSR and China (from 1950) had very high & rapid upwards social mobility, perhaps saving tens of millions of lives.
The video should have mentioned the role of foreign capitalists and engineers who were invited (and well paid) by the Soviet Union during this industrialization period. Albert Kahn the American industrial architect built over 500 factories in the USSR. Fred Koch helped build five modern oil refineries. His experiences in the USSR would deeply shape his future conservative political views. The Ford motor company built two plants near Moscow including the famous GAZ plant. And the Soviets imported many German-made machine tools. I believe Lenin said capitalists will sell the rope used to hang them.
General Electric even during the 1950s in point of fact.
@@doolittlegeorge Coca Cola produced clear Coke specially for General Zhukov, but now I'm digressing!
Information doesn't care about ideology
Donetsk was originally called Yuzivka (Hughesovka) and named after a Welsh businessman who operated a steel plant and some coal mines.
Foreign capitalists in ussr so funny
You are making films for the war going on in Ukraine, but since you have already touched on this topic, maybe go for the blow and make a total of films about individual republics of the Soviet Union such as Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and so on. It is rather hard to find anywhere information on how individual republics developed and life looked like in them, because it all comes down to the entire state of the USSR. It will be nice if you take my proposal into account, best regards.
I support this
Kyrgyzstan 1917*
Excellent idea! How they got from 1990 to today or start from when the Communists took over their country. Especially all the -Stan countries!
@@annehersey9895 Forgive me for correcting you, but basically they separated from the USSR in 1990-1991
@@jankowal115 absolutely right-the only reason I added going back further is because the Series is the Cold War so to stay on theme, we’d have to take each country from post WWII-today. No problem, I like your idea
Greetings from Hungary!
I liked the video very much. If I may,I'd like to suggest the 'Oboronka' as a subject of a future video.
24th viewer?? Never made it this close! Amazing video as always, btw
Man... your channel is wonderful! I love getting lost in it the same way you'd get lost in a fascinating book... Warm greetings from Algeria!
Nostalgia for the Soviet Union (in the post Soviet era) would be an interesting episode. I dare say there's a bit of that nostalgia here in the west. The Soviet Union was a known quantity and a single focus. Now in a multi polar world military planning training and equipping is much more complicated due to the proliferation of threats and challenges. That's probably true on the diplomatic front as well. Even with the emergence of the Russian republic as a near peer antagonist, we no longer have the luxury of focusing on them exclusively.
I think it helps that the Soviet Union had a few romantic elements.
For example, It was multi-ethnic but _relatively_ harmonious and attempted to embrace it's diversity, even if there was a lot of (rightfully) upset occupied nations.
Putin's brand of neo-fascism however is based around ethnic domination, rather than unity behind ideology. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, not to mention how corrupt the nation is, etc.
@@seventh-hydra Imagine being so braindead to call ussr which deported to labor camps and executed minorities harmonius.
Putin's what? "neo fascism" 🤡🤡🤡
I'd say things are LESS chaotic now. The USSR was funding communist cells and dictators around the globe and focus was spread globally. Korea nearly fell because the US was distracted in Europe fearing a Soviet invasion and trying to rebuild Japan at a time that they were seeing a resurgence in communism. Things were also fairly multi polar back then as well, India was leading the 3rd world and playing both sides off one another, the French had a global empire and often went their own way, and Europe was like a herd of cats the US was trying to corral together while trying to keep them from flipping sides and turning red.
Today things aren't really that mutli polar, or at least not much more multi polar, it's just that China has taken the place of the USSR and Russia has become the war like hermit like China once was.
actually while the biggest partt of modern Ukraine was lowly industrialized during Empire times, Donbass region was an industrial centere of entire Russian Empire.and Ussr until 1930s
another one of these idiots who think tsarist russia industrialized better than the ussr, no they didn’t
the ussr still would’ve modernized and developed significantly earlier as evidence shows
@@zuippy845 - "still" what? What are you contradicting?
@@mokarokas-1727 Russia Empire focus in Moskow and St Petersburg
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa - Are they contradicting that? How?
The names of Chelyabinsk, Kramatorsk, and all the other Ukrainian cities named in this episode, ring with new and terrible meaning today. Thank you for this.
No, they don't. They are names of places, that's all. Also, Chelyabinsk is in Russia.
Челябинск это Россия
Maybe you mistaken Chernobyl with Chelyabinsk
Good video. Slightly understressed situation with the level of existing industry prior to the Soviet Industrialization. Coal reserves in Donbas area and Iron Ore reserves in central Ukraine, as well as existing mining, steel processing and machinery and ship building facilities all within 200km radius have been unmatched in Russian Empire and pre-ww2 Soviet Union.
Thank you for the video. Very interesting. from Kharkiv 🇺🇦
I realize this may sound rather insignificant, but if you listen to the narration and the music in the background its absolutely awesome to me
I just finished "The Children of Arbat" - a book about the lost generation of the Stalin era. A generation that perished in the GULAGs and WW2. That was "the heaven on earth" USSR...
Funny joke
The only ones lost in gulags were counter revolutionary dogs and enemies of the people.
Capitalists and religious reactionaries are not a loss to a society.
Just wait for the Great Reset.
@@jaymudd2817
Ah yes the "Great Reset" which isn't happening. What WILL happen is world proletariat revolution.
I'm pretty sure what's presented at 0:50 is a Ford plant in Michigan USA.
1. There is no coal find in Moscow oblast, and hence no coal miners there to compete with those in Donbass and Kuzbass. In fact, Moscow Oblast, as well as most of the central russia, risides on an extremely ancient continental crust devoid of any real ressources. The open air quarries that do or did exist there mostly yielded turf for fuel, and then sand and, in some places, apatites for aluminium production.
2. It was also worth mentioning that the famine that stroke Ukraine in 1930s was the infamous Holodomor, reccognized by the majority of historians in the civilized world (but, surely, not in russia) as a man-made act of genocide.
3. Since you've done an episode on the industrialization of Ukraine, you definitely have to make one on Kazakhstan. Not just because Kazakhstan became not much less of a powerhouse of soviet mining, but because it is also one of the most illustrative example of melting pots, with people of all origins - from Volga Germans through Crimea Tatars to Chechens to Koreans - being brought and sharing this space. And also because my great-grandma fled there from the famine in Tambov oblast.
There are no any decent historian in the whole world who would say that so-called "Holodomor" was a conscious man-made act with the target of genocide. It barely has any evidence.
I'm not even talking about any sense of killing loyal workers in one of the most red regions and weaken the country just before the war. I don't see any reason for Russians to blame themselves in such an obvious lie, except a bunch of traitors.
Btw, "civilized world" is such a dumb racist cliche. If you would live in one of the "civilized countries", people around wouldn't appreciate it.
There is a book "Піднята цілина" about those events.
Excellent episode. Keep up the good work.
Greetings from the mid Great Lakes area, which has a very similar climate/weather to Ukraine!
This is such good information.
Thank you for the new video! I would be interested in videos on industrialization in other areas of the USSR. I would be interested in more videos on the central Asian states in particular.
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)
I love your videos so much, and your channel. Thank you very much
Thank you Cold War team! Superb content!
That one cameraman sure liked shadows.
I loved energy compensators too but then my coke dealer went to jail
We got the antonov factory in return and I must say without this Mriya wont be here.
Hopefully you guys do a video on hundred flowers campaign in China
2:30 Oh yes, this is where the largest country in the world which conquered dozens of smaller nations to get that big has the gall to complain that it's the victim.
I would like to see the industrial areas in Ukraine to be rebuilt after the current war with Russia ends.
Who is going to rebuild?
Stalin declared "industrialization " and US and European engineers made it happen.
Azovstal is being repaired
It will be by Russia after the capitulation.
A very interesting video - even for someone from Estonia like me. It's worth also noting, that during the 20s and 30s SU used a lot of specialists from the West - mostly Germans, but not only. Something similar happened after the war - only then it was more machinery that had been acquired as help during the war and after that knowledge acquired via good old espionage.
There was no any espionage. Bolsheviks are wathdogs not creators.
Mostly US engineers and some European engineers are factory and power stations builders in USSR.
@@achatcueilleur5746 Yeah, right, of course. Heard anything of the Rosenbergs? Just to name one example...
@@Keefan1978 Why someone should hear anything about Rosenbergs?
@@achatcueilleur5746 How naive of me - starting a discussion with a trolling bot. :D
The content, narrating, and presentation are all perfect but the sound quality is poor. Perhaps due to poor microphone or most likely sound card/system. I think it is well-worth investing some money in a high-quality mic and most importantly sound card, given the quality of the actual contents. Sound quality may not be a big deal for a native English speaker but you are reaching out to an international audience, many of whom may not be English speakers and the quality of sound definitely matters to them. Besides, sound quality has an X-ray effect, if you will, on your audience’s understanding and interest of your contents.
Lmao at 15:37 just a american tractor passing by
@caioveras7642 Yes, this guy is clueless. No idea about how the West, mainly the USA, built all aspects of the soviet economy, including the soviet bureaucracy.
The annexation process of the Baltic republics is eerily reminiscent of what Russia is doing right now to the Eastern parts of Ukraine.
I'd compare it more to the Nazi occupation of Czechoslovakia
Thought you said, ‘The Growth of the People’s Belly Button’! Lol 🤪
Nicely informative video. Now why don't you do a video on "Operation Solo?" Now that would be good to watch. And also a few more spy video's from the Cold War era would be nice too.
Wow
Towards the end of this particular fast paced episode it began to sound as if it was a warning of things to come in regards to the UK and Brexit. Agreements and all the other aspects of economic patterns either formalized or very importantly never formalized but enmeshments of culture were damaged and for Brits the same sorts of things will pop up to hurt them. The clearly flawed Euro banking system is continued.
you're saying Stalin industrialised to build the military to fight the capitalists like the German war machine didn't go for the lebensraum 20 years later... dk, sounds like Jo had a point
Lol, nowadays, Ukraine pre war economy are even smaller than the city of Jakarta
Hey guys, great work! I have a pre-cold war question for you: I've recently heard that in the early part of WW2, soviet agents in both the US and Japan pushed support for war in the Pacific between these respective countries, in order to stop the threat of the Japan attacking the USSR in the east. I was wondering what your thoughts were on this?
USSR never had any agents.
That's good question even I have read some comments on it but never found any documentries or book on it.
With all the respect, the title is misleading, it was the entire Soviet Union that was industrializing. Ukraine as you said was a region in the Soviet Union, you cannot separate the industalization of the region without looking at the entire Soviet empire. With the same title you can describe Uzbekistan which became a cotton powerhouse, or Ural area as metal powerhouse.
Didnt even watch the video and commented immediately.
"With a focus on Ukraine.."
What about Kazakhstan or other central Asian republics? Soviet policies modernized them on a unprecedented scale.
No one will admit but ussr gave these countries much needed technology development scientific prowess etc.
Look at these countries after the collapse
Nothing but a total shithole.
Sorry for sounding harsh but it's true.
Ukraine is pretty much a daily headline in the news and is getting a lot of attention from folks these days. If your goal is to attract viewers and attention, mentioning “Ukraine” in your headlines is pretty effective.
Not hating just observing
I think you have this backwards. “With the same title you could describe Uzebkistan…” No, you could do that if the title had been the USSR rather than Ukraine. By mentioning Ukraine in the title, the video puts an emphasis on Ukraine and can’t just bring up Uzbekistan as the focus. The title is therefore not misleading, and instead tells us what the focus will be.
@Moonis Bruh the channel has made more videos about the Soviet Union than Ukraine since the start of the invasion.
The Russians would be mad not to suspect.....everyone.
👍👍
Is saying 5-year plan in Russia like telling your mom you just want to sleep 5 more minutes
You "Forget" to mention that the Bolsheviks immediately after the revolution withdrew from the First World War, contributing decisively to the acceleration of the outcome of the war and the achievement of peace, handing over large parts of the former imperial territory with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. Not even a reference to the intervention of the Entente where 17 countries invaded post-revolutionary Russia to impose "democracy" and Western values. If you want to be a historian, that's why I'm watching you. But don't pick an uncritical side just for propaganda reasons. Every country and people has the right to be governed as it wants and to be independent BTW
This entire post reeks of radical propaganda, as if the USSR was a democratically elected pluralistc society and people had a choice...please.
@@XxLIVRAxX Lol, if Bolsheviks hadn't the popular support how they could supress white guards and the Entente invasion? Do you have anything to counter the facts i mentioned above or you replied just to accuse me for propaganda because i said something different you are used to?
Basicalaly, the short version is that the Russians came in, built everything, and then the Ukranians didn't maintain anything and all of it declined while they complained
What's up with using old TV?
the soviet union was dissolved, not quite collapsed
the soviet union was only partly dissolved/ same bolshevik faces everywhere.
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Despite industrialization and having numerous resources, Ukraine today is somehow poorer than Bosnia which specializes in neither.
Well you make the same mistake that soviet leaders did - get more insterested in numbers, not real situation
@@Coole000 The real situation is that in Ukraine the industry was completely destroyed and it turned into an agrarian country.
@@milaro222 the real situation is that numbers was inflated in first place People in Ukraine while ussr was alive had less supply than at any point after ussr. Infamous queues, did yoi heard about it something?
@@Coole000 The USSR has nothing to do with it at all, in 2008 Ukraine produced 400 thousand cars a year, with a potential of up to a million, by 2014 production had decreased to almost zero. It can also be observed in other industries, deindustrialization is underway, against the background of the growth of the agricultural sector and the growth of external debt.
@@milaro222 and with cars we had russian problem in ukraine. They was building some machinery for the russian market and owned by russians. After 2014 all russian buisnesmans left the Ukrainian market, often taking the whole factory with them. LAZ making buses closed same way, ZAZ making (shitty) cars (they renewed work at 2019 btw), DEVZ and LTZ (train building factories) - they all had russian owners and was closed after 2014. And btw ukranian cars was really so-so even at the time, and now what they do looks like a garbage. And this is exactly because of soviet "numbers over the situation" politics
Short answer - russian money.
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How Ukraine Became an Industrial Powerhouse of the Soviet Union* you mean
It was the second after the RSFSR
You tend to contradict yourself. These videos are interesting but definitely heavy propaganda.
And all of that build up is now lost because Zelensky agreed to provoke Russia into war. Genius.
Fascist Russian troll alert
Nope, because putins a pos. "Provoke Russia" what a load of horse💩
Provoked into a war? What, are they monkeys or wild dogs who can't control themselves if you somehow annoy them?
the downside is that they concentrated too much industry in Ukraine.
Not really. Industries, like anything else, are there because they are best suited for the available resources.
@@dkfdhdsj6261 That is what armies are for.
Remember Soviet workers built Ukraine. What Ukies Nationalist has done today. Trying erase all the memories and history of Soviet achievements. GLORY TO SOVIET POWER.
Soviets were a joke. Always have been. Always will be.
rest in piss 😂
I'm sure they won't make a follow up video showing how Ukraine sold off much of their industry to foreign investors during the various revolutions in the 2000s (2014 for example). Selling off the stable wealth just for a chance to move closer to 'the west' while losing the ability to pay off enormous loans as they no longer had their main sources of industrial revenue.
Similar to what happened to Russia during the 90s.
Yeah such "great" achivements like holodomor !Plus Ukrain's population was a fifth of the Soviet one ,so you didnt put more effort on it than it deserved
True Ukrainians not even 5 million people. Ukraine was habituated by different nationalities like Poles, Cossack, Russians, Romanians, Slovak, Hungarian, Jews, Tatar and more.
Russia needs another Stalin!!
It already has one, and that's not been helping it at all.
Stalin without US engineers is helpless talking head.
Lmao in the RSFSR (Russia) there were much more plants and factories than in Ukraine, and the entire industrialization of Ukraine occurred thanks to the Russians and at the expense of Russia
Simple the Soviet union built everything and Ukraine kept everything for free.
But Ukraine was a part of the Soviet Union.
Don’t worry your darling putin is making sure to destroy everything
Yes, the Soviet Union built everything. Ukraine was one of the most important parts of that Union. And they didn't pay any money to Russia after they claimed their independence. Just the millions of Ukrainians starved to death on orders from Stalin to help pay for that industrial advancement. But not a single ruble. What ingratitude.
@@scottkrater2131 Did u know that holodomor killed milions of Russians too? South Russia and Volga region were greatly affected, also north Kazakhstan where Russians live.
@@WP-cu2pf the holodomor didn't kill any Russians, famine caused their deaths and not nearly as many as Ukraine, the holodomor refers specifically to Ukraine not the Soviet Union.
This could be explained pretty easy. They became industrial powerhouse bcos they were governed by others, not by themselves. When they gained independence in 1991 they had 51 milion ppl, before war they had 37. Meanwhile RuZZia had 148 in 1991 and before war it had 147. Ukr is perfect example for failed state. Not to mention they were 2nd poorest country in Europe before war.
How is Ukraine a failed state?
Russia is the idiotic one.
Name 10 countries that unequivocally supported Russia during it's invasion.
Ukraine is not a failed state, it’s been holding off the military might of Russia for almost half a year
Putins Russia is more likely to become a failed state, as the west will never invest again.
Ukraine will rebuild, as part of Europe. Russias economy will collapse again and the west will not bail you out again
Who would have thought that Russia with enormous oil and gas exports would be richer than Ukraine which Russia destabilizes with corrupt puppet governments and waging war on their territory.
Hello, u shuld say the ussr was the powerhouse.
Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦 Long life Free Ukraine!
Zelensky is a coke head and Ukraine is most corrupt country in Europe has Nazis in its army so people viva Ukraine all they like the place is basket case. People here in UK are fed up of Ukrainians and their ingratitude for the help they received so are getting kicked out of the homes that hosted them and are fast becoming the largest homeless community.
Agrarian Empire was building battleships while USSR built none.
Every tourist visited USSR to see architecture built during agrarian Empire not of industrial USSR.
It hilarious the listing of all the facets you note the SU used to coerce the population without the slightest hi t of irony that they are exactly the same that the US used and still use.
Care to give an example how a capitalist in the US coerced the working class that mirrors the Soviets? Just one. You can expand later.
@@scottkrater2131I said population yet you used working class . Interesting. The US has little to no unionised working class . Down from the 30's. Capitalists have coerced them into thinking that they hold back the 'american dream' . Where do you Trickle down economics comes from.ffs. it's worked that well ,you didn't recognise it.
@@marlkarx1757 Bull, we still have Union's, not as many as in the fifties. I'm a teamsters member. And trickle down economics didn't fool every one. Besides that's not being coerced. So try again.
@@marlkarx1757 by the way working class is anyone not in a white collar job. A UAW member making 160k a year is still a "working class' guy.
@@scottkrater2131union has been in decline for decades,mirroring all organised labour in the US. You'll now parrot neo lib/con talking points about why....and that my friend is the coercion.
Less stuff about Ukraine please, the place is a corrupt trash pit
Like Washington DC
@@jaymudd2817 well yes , they're the ones sending tax payer dollars over to the slushfund known as Ukraine lol
Unlike Russia. Fascist troll
why are you biased ??
This guy did a video on Ukraine over the last 100 years, and forgot something.... hmmm... howabout the worlds largest genocide by starvation? That didn't impact ukraine at all?
up to that point in history
@@davidanalyst671 He didn't forget. He avoid topics where US is involved in killing civilians
@@davidanalyst671 That not only affected ukr but also south rusia and north Kazakhstan
Slav have the gift of art and mathematics,but they are not good at business.industrg can't live without market.