@@tatartonyjudenson7633 spot on yes. It's horrendous. But at least the older hardcore bands still play Fear Tsol circle jerks Doa. Dead kennedy's without jello not the same but ......
I say 1960-1970 was the biggest change. Went from Doo Wop and rockabilly to early heavy metal, funk, and all kinds of psychedelic stuff. Radical shift.
Agreed..T.S.O.L are prob my fave band. But Jack didn’t invent the goth look and T.S.O.L didn’t invent the goth scene as I’ve heard before.. Dave Vanian and thedamned were doing it first
@@leecarterreppinjesuschrist7686 Except the Damned didn't play goth music and only Dave Vanian had the goth look. Bauhaus was arguably the first in both look and music.
Yeah Bauhaus wasn't a thing till bela Lugosis dead. I'll admit they codified things a bit but goth came from alot of things, bands like coven, siouxsie and the banshees, 45 grave, vox pop, originally goth wasn't really a distinct sound but more of a look and attitude where you had bands of different styles often punk bands with goth members like the bags with Pat bag also alot of it came from screaming lord sutch, Alice Cooper...."goth" got more codified the more the 80s progressed and when sisters of mercy became popular that had a huge effect where it seemed like everyone started to sound like them
Ron Emory may be a little underrated like Randy Rhodes, but that doesn't deter them from being damn good 👍 guitar players. In fact, this is one of my all time favorite Punk EP's. I now declare this album #25 on the Silver Star Winners List. I love 💕 the Hits " You Don't Have to Die" and "80 Times". Most definitely a Crown Jewel 💎 of Classic Punk. Fucking Amazing. Get drunk and fucked up to this!
@@marcoantoniobenavidezjr.6866 I prefer the 12" ep only because of the better sound quality. However this is my first listen to this demo and it's impressive as fuck
Just saw a screening of the TSOL movie with Jack in attendance. Either the documentary or the Q&A afterwards he talked about how "Somewhere between the car and studio, I picked up an English accent." He's a funny guy and tells great stories.
Too add to that, in my opinion, was the influence of "Machine Gun Ettiqutte" by The Damned a year before. Every hardcore scene from D.C to L.A to NYC states that album as a BIG factor. 🤟🏾🤟🏾
Ron and I Got Loaded together before we both got clean. A bunch of great guys. That was a good demo, but their first album was faster. They will always be a pillar of LA and Orange County punk rock scene!
Ya know it would Honor for me and a Thousands of True Diehard T.SO.L. Heads Like me that would treasure a Legit Copy Release from the band Themselves I'm a an Old School Punker I've never Found a Copy of this anywhere it mandatory for all True Punks the Love T. S. O. L. We are all getting Very Old it's a shame not to have a copy of this on Vinyl and Pass it on to my Son he"s 13 and LOVES Punk when I Put on a T. S. O L. Record for him to Listen to I saw the Same Look on his Face and the way he reacted he went Fuck Crazy Demanding Where are the Punk Record Stores at where he wanted to go I saw a Reflection of Me in the 80's the First time I Heard T. S. O. L. ,I hope the Band reads all these comments because theirs a Lots of Sad Depressed Young Kids out there that are bored and hate their Life because their not place for then to go or no Place for them to Unite stuffing up to See Punk bands to get their anger depression out the Youth of Today needs Punk Bands and Clubs to hang out with their friends like we did and need Vinyl Copies of the Punk Bands music like we had to Collect. And be Proud one day all the Punk bands will be all gone but the Records can still be around to give the Young Punk Generation the idea and energy to do something With Punk make it happen for them with that said I've said enough Punk OFF Monsters ☠️🎒👹👺🤬😵🤮🤑👿😝😬😠🧟😝🤩👽🎃🧞🐔🤮👹🎒👺👹👺☠️
Been listening to tsol since 2007 Skate and faq shit up ! bumping it on my I pod at 15 I'm 29 now hahaha fucking aye still love you guys!!!! I'll hopefully meet you soon!!
Always weird to me how NYHC has all this lore about their shows in tiny backroom stages to 20 people like it was legendary shit, meanwhile TSOL was headlining to thousands off a demo. Who was really the bigger influence? CA bands always had the bigger shows, but east coast hc shows were made up of like 75% of people with a zine, the press amount decided who was "bigger" in this case but TSOL might have always lowkey been the biggest band of the early 80s along with Black Flag. CBGBs maxed out at like 100 people. Like what are we doing here??
TSOL was bigger and more respected than black flag in LA, history just basically erased it because black flag toured way more and longer. TSOL owned LA 81-83, I truly believe they are the most underrated punk band of all time.
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It's amazing how fast the music changed from 1970 to 1980..
Looking at the last 10 years in music as comparison, it's like complete stagnation.
@@grantjoy stagnation from 1999
@@tatartonyjudenson7633 spot on yes. It's horrendous. But at least the older hardcore bands still play Fear Tsol circle jerks Doa. Dead kennedy's without jello not the same but ......
LOL! No different from how vastly different music changed from 1980 to 1990. 1990 to 20K to 2010 to 2020 etc.....
I say 1960-1970 was the biggest change. Went from Doo Wop and rockabilly to early heavy metal, funk, and all kinds of psychedelic stuff. Radical shift.
Jack putting on a British accent ... lol showing his Damned and London Punk 77 influences here.
Agreed..T.S.O.L are prob my fave band. But Jack didn’t invent the goth look and T.S.O.L didn’t invent the goth scene as I’ve heard before.. Dave Vanian and thedamned were doing it first
@@leecarterreppinjesuschrist7686 Except the Damned didn't play goth music and only Dave Vanian had the goth look. Bauhaus was arguably the first in both look and music.
Yeah Bauhaus wasn't a thing till bela Lugosis dead. I'll admit they codified things a bit but goth came from alot of things, bands like coven, siouxsie and the banshees, 45 grave, vox pop, originally goth wasn't really a distinct sound but more of a look and attitude where you had bands of different styles often punk bands with goth members like the bags with Pat bag also alot of it came from screaming lord sutch, Alice Cooper...."goth" got more codified the more the 80s progressed and when sisters of mercy became popular that had a huge effect where it seemed like everyone started to sound like them
I can't deny that I liked his fake accent better
emory is an underrated guitarist.
Totally. I just discovered the 2001 "comeback" lp and its killer, mostly because of the guitar
Ron Emory may be a little underrated like Randy Rhodes, but that doesn't deter them from being damn good 👍 guitar players. In fact, this is one of my all time favorite Punk EP's. I now declare this album #25 on the Silver Star Winners List. I love 💕 the Hits " You Don't Have to Die" and "80 Times". Most definitely a Crown Jewel 💎 of Classic Punk. Fucking Amazing. Get drunk and fucked up to this!
T.S.O.L., The Casualties, and Agnostic Front, were Awesome in Corpus Christi, Tx. back in 2002.
@@marcoantoniobenavidezjr.6866 I prefer the 12" ep only because of the better sound quality. However this is my first listen to this demo and it's impressive as fuck
Agreed 100%
Just saw a screening of the TSOL movie with Jack in attendance. Either the documentary or the Q&A afterwards he talked about how "Somewhere between the car and studio, I picked up an English accent." He's a funny guy and tells great stories.
Too add to that, in my opinion, was the influence of "Machine Gun Ettiqutte" by The Damned a year before. Every hardcore scene from D.C to L.A to NYC states that album as a BIG factor. 🤟🏾🤟🏾
What is the name of the TSOL movie?
@@willquigg8265 Ignore Heroes - The True Sounds of Liberty
@@willquigg8265 T.S.O.L. - Ignore Heroes
So glad I lived and participated in this area. OC punks rule. Fucn badass.
Beer Bonging 40’s and snorting cross tops! Now that was the life! 1978to 1985 was the shit in So Cal!
THIS IS ABSOLUTE CLASSIC!!! THEY NEED TO RELEASE THIS WITH WEATHERED STATUES
Ron and I Got Loaded together before we both got clean. A bunch of great guys. That was a good demo, but their first album was faster. They will always be a pillar of LA and Orange County punk rock scene!
Jack! Sounding young as ever!
-should have stayed a punk band
Essence of punk rock in a nutshell . Inspired hundreds of future bands.
Absolute classic...
That 1980 underground L.A. sound.
TSOL also had members from OC (Huntington Beach)
Fondest memories of my youth.
Met Jack, Ron & The band in P Cola Florida.
Most inviting best times🌙
Great classic punk rock!
I loved this band back in the days. Still do
Becomes stairs.
ABSOLUTELY GEM!!! Thanx!
Deathrock nostaglia...thank ya kindly!
Thank you for this. It's been many years since I've heard this.
Brilliant. Love it.
Fun I love this band, because................ ....they Exist . greetings from Hamburg
third track is hilarious, 'four more years to live' Cold War shivers.
Thanks for sharing...
Ya know it would Honor for me and a Thousands of True Diehard T.SO.L. Heads Like me that would treasure a Legit Copy Release from the band Themselves I'm a an Old School Punker I've never Found a Copy of this anywhere it mandatory for all True Punks the Love T. S. O. L. We are all getting Very Old it's a shame not to have a copy of this on Vinyl and Pass it on to my Son he"s 13 and LOVES Punk when I Put on a T. S. O L. Record for him to Listen to I saw the Same Look on his Face and the way he reacted he went Fuck Crazy Demanding Where are the Punk Record Stores at where he wanted to go I saw a Reflection of Me in the 80's the First time I Heard T. S. O. L. ,I hope the Band reads all these comments because theirs a Lots of Sad Depressed Young Kids out there that are bored and hate their Life because their not place for then to go or no Place for them to Unite stuffing up to See Punk bands to get their anger depression out the Youth of Today needs Punk Bands and Clubs to hang out with their friends like we did and need Vinyl Copies of the Punk Bands music like we had to Collect. And be Proud one day all the Punk bands will be all gone but the Records can still be around to give the Young Punk Generation the idea and energy to do something With Punk make it happen for them with that said I've said enough Punk OFF Monsters ☠️🎒👹👺🤬😵🤮🤑👿😝😬😠🧟😝🤩👽🎃🧞🐔🤮👹🎒👺👹👺☠️
I like that punk rock
Who would have thought 10 years later they would be sounding like Motley Crew... lol
@@maxamillion6958 That wasn’t even TSOL anymore. Just some crappy metal band with no original members that should’ve changed their name long ago.
I got to see tsol at Mile square City in Hoboken New Jersey 1981. Supporting acts were the nihilistics and the undead.
What a time to be alive
Lol Sweet English accent you got there!
This is cool
Te amo
Tremenda demo !!!
🤘❤️🤘
Been listening to tsol since 2007 Skate and faq shit up ! bumping it on my I pod at 15 I'm 29 now hahaha fucking aye still love you guys!!!! I'll hopefully meet you soon!!
Real OC punk
So.Cal.
Yup. Orange county punk rules
😍
Lol I never heard this demo before
F yeahhhhh
Vicious Circle = TSOL
qué buena
They improved a lot after this demo.. they ended up being one of my fave bands. Jesus Christ is the way
They weren't about Jesus
Looks like a black metal album cover ❤
Easily my favorite era of True Sounds of Liberty. A great catalog of music but this was their barn burning years in my lame ass opinion…..
Definitely
friends, where can i find a digital version of this??
please Jack remaster this🙏
where can i find this on cd?
Por favor, ame tsol
cara, amar essa banda è muito facíl.
What if it's not within 30 days. I never signed a contract
Was this “Manchester Jack” singing???
Always weird to me how NYHC has all this lore about their shows in tiny backroom stages to 20 people like it was legendary shit, meanwhile TSOL was headlining to thousands off a demo. Who was really the bigger influence? CA bands always had the bigger shows, but east coast hc shows were made up of like 75% of people with a zine, the press amount decided who was "bigger" in this case but TSOL might have always lowkey been the biggest band of the early 80s along with Black Flag. CBGBs maxed out at like 100 people. Like what are we doing here??
Why do you care? Good music is good music, played to 11 or 1100 people.
LOL...Lotta revisionist history and exaggerations in this comment...
TSOL was bigger and more respected than black flag in LA, history just basically erased it because black flag toured way more and longer. TSOL owned LA 81-83, I truly believe they are the most underrated punk band of all time.
@@tonyjones2612 ...and The Circle Jerks were bigger than both of them. I don't understand the points being debated here 😆🤣😆🤣
@@tonyjones2612 it's actually The Germs who are the most underrated L.A hardcore punk band.
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Thank god Jack dropped the fake English accent .
Slayer kills this.
Pfft Slayer wishes