Replacing The Water Tank And Bad Diaphram Symptoms
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- Опубликовано: 1 сен 2019
- One of the joys of home ownership is fixing things that break. This week the water tank for our well went bad. The diaphragm leaked and tank became waterlogged causing the pump to cycle constantly. This video is about replacing the tank.
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This video was a great help... very clear and complete. Appreciate your style and ability to explain and show what you are doing clearly.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
I'm always impressed with your wide range of knowledge, how well you prepare, and the quality of your work. That's why I follow your channel. I always come away with information I can put to good use. Thanks for sharing with us.
Thanks. I may not always do things the easiest way but somehow manage to complete most tasks. Just sharing things from my point of view to hopefully help others with similar problems. Thanks for watching.
The little details you provided made it easy to understand. Well done!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
You are a very patient man and that is the key to fixing things efficiently. Great video and very easy to understand. Thanks Bob.
Seems like there is always something to fix when you own a home. Thanks for watching.
Well done RNH! Great video, great narrative for a "trained by school of hard knocks" plumber like me. I've been a Lake Plumber at my seasonal cottage for more than 50 years and tearing down the water system and starting up again the next spring has given my lots of experience. Never could make a living as a plumber unless I changed my ways. I've subscribed and will follow religiously. Keep up the good work. Bob
Thanks. I'm like you. Only touch plumbing when I absolutely have to. Thanks for watching and subbing.
This was super helpful! We bought a place in the country 2 years ago with a well and pressure tank system. I'm a city kid, so there has been a bit og a learning curve. Our tank is over 15 years old and I am suspicious that it needs replacing. This video taught me a lot, so thank you very much!
Hopefully your problem is a simple one like ours. Sounds like 15 years is about the lifetime of the bladder tanks. Thanks for watching.
Thank you. I enjoyed how you overdubbed the instructions onto the video.
Glad you enjoyed it. That's the easiest way when working alone. Thanks for watching.
I loved your calm and patient attitude about even the most frustrating moments that made me cringe in relating to similar experiences, but as soon as i hear your calm narration i started laughing out loud. now that is how you gotta handle the stresses life throws at you! I find my self skipping repeatedly through almost everyone's youtube videos now a days, but i enjoyed every second of this video because of the genuinity, skill , and expertise you caried out in this job. You would make a great instructor/teacher. you could be encouraging to a mostly hopeless young generation if they allowed themselves the ability to learn.
Thanks. That's why I started my channel. Hopefully it will give others ideas to start with when a problem arises or they want to make something. Thanks for watching.
Nice job! Thanks for taking time to make this video for us. I need to change the switch in my system. Previous owner had tank replaced but didn't put in a drain valve. I don't know how to get the pressure down other than draining the 120 gallon holding tank. My intention is to do this correctly so it's ready for future interruptions
Sounds like you should be able to turn the pump off and open up the lowest faucets in the house to get most of the water out. I think most codes call for a drain so it would be a good idea to add one and also check there is a pressure relief valve In the system. Thanks for watching.
You Sir…. Are a Rock Star…Great video. Cover all of necessary items. Thanks!
Thanks for watching.
I am glad you got everything back up and running. I'm betting your wife was the happiest of all. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
Thanks. She couldn't wait to get the washing machine going 😏. Always something when you own a home. Thanks for watching.
Well done! I love your videos, they are so informative and entertaining.
Regards from Sweden :-)
Thanks. RUclips sure makes the world seem small. Thanks for watching.
Fantastic video, very helpful, thank you sir!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
So you wanna own a home! Lol. Nice job! Improvise,adapt and overcome....Man after my own heart ..spare parts never know when you might need them. Thanks for sharing
It has been a tough year. Just at the age where things start breaking. Trouble is most of my spare parts are junk. It would be nice if you got a 3 week warning to prepare for things like this. The joys of home ownership. Thanks for watching.
Three week warning would be great! Lol. You ain’t kidding.
Thanks! Just replaced my waterlogged tank. Your my go to guy for now on!😅
Seems to be a common issue. Surprised they dont make a tank with a easy to change bladder to save waste. Thanks for watching.
Great video, I like your style of explaining what is going on and how things are done
Just trying to give others an idea of what is involved. Thanks for watching.
Great repair!
I did the same repair about a year ago, bladder tank only made 13 years.
The first time you showed wrapping the teflon tape, you put it on reversed. The 2nd time you showed it being wrapped, you put it on the threads correctly. Believe it or not, there is only one way to wrap the teflon. You want it to tighten, as you tighten the fitting. Your first wrapping will actually cause the tape to loosen as you thread the joint together. :-)
I find on those large rough cut threads it really doesn't matter. Smaller smooth threads must be wrapped as you say. These tanks seem to be the weak link in a well water system. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 So for the slower students, if you're wrapping telfon tape on smaller threads as you mention, is it proper to wrap it counter-clockwise then? I'm trying to picture what would cause it to tighten as you tighten the fitting, and wrapping it counter-clockwise and then turning clockwise would accomplish that....I'm guessing?
@@rebeccamyers8888 That's what I do when using teflon tape but for the larger pipe threads it's really best to use a pipe joint compound if you have it because the rough threads chew up the tape.
Thank you for your genosity.
Thanks for watching.
Any plumbing jobs are that way. For me, No matter how good I plan out the job, I just have to be prepared to make multiple trips to the hardware store. And I almost have a hardware store in my garage but, it never fails, I won't have that one little gismo that I need.
Wish there was a hardware store near by for jobs like this. thanks for watching.
If your half hour job turns into an hour job your way ahead of me.
Glad your back up and running
Have a Jesus filled day
Greg in Michigan
I'm not very good at estimating time anymore. Somehow I don't factor in enough time for Murphy's law. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Apparently it's common, underestimating the time it takes to do a relatively simple and easy job. The brain sometimes translates easy as quick, but it's wishful thinking. Thanks for the video.
Fantastic video! Thanks!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.
Outstanding video. Liked and subscribed. Your narration is clear and to the point. Camera work is steady and clear. You should make a video on how to make “how to videos”. I’m not kidding.
Thanks. Working alone it's the only way I can make decent videos. Thanks for watching and subbing.
Very informative, thank you
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching.
Excellent, thank you greatly.
It's a common problem for those of us that use wells. Thanks for watching.
Great video
Thanks for watching.
I followed your instructions and my water filled the tank up and shut off thanx
That's how it should work. Be sure the bladder pressure is set according to the instructions based on your pump pressure. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for this video it was a lot of help
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
Fantastic video! Thank you! I have a leaking tank and the pressure is low.
A bad tank shouldn't cause low pressure but it causes the pump to cycle often. low pressure could be something else is going such as the pressure switch. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
I used to do building maintenance ,did a lot of work like that .can't do it no more I'm disabled now , work took its toll on my body...👍😊
It does take a lot longer for me to do things like this these days. Thanks for watching.
I had the same problem (tank barely draining even when open) and it turned out the problem was the outlet from the bottom of the tank was absolutely plugged with iron sand. One recommendation to help prevent this is a "sand trap" on the inlet between the back flow valve and the tank ... it's kind of like the anti-water hammer fitting the other way up with an outlet on the bottom to drain any collected sand.
We don't have sand. Our well flows clear at over 30 gpm recovery. Water went through the pinhole in the bladder. Thanks for watching.
Don't worry, dude. I take a half hour job and turn it into a day project. Lol. Bought a house in the middle of the country out in Western Kansas, moved from NYC. You can imagine how tough it is to learn how to fix everything and keep up with a home where everything decides to break one after another. I am currently replacing everything from the well pressure tank, the line to the home, all the plumbing and fixtures etc. I figured if I am going to change out the plumbing to pex, install a sediment filter and water softener, I may as well change out the pressure tank as well- go new all around.
I'm sure it'll be a day or two project, but I think it'll be worth it.
Replacing everything should give years of water without problems. You were very smart leaving NY. I made the mistake of staying to retire here. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
Great step by step video
That’s my project for tomorrow. O what fun ❕❕❕❕
It's not a bad job. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
Excellent video sir. Thank you. My pump is short cycling and I'm getting air bubbles in my water. From what I can tell this is where I should start. Wish me luck.
Could be something like this or a bad foot valve if you have an inside pump. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Wow great video thank you
Thanks for watching.
Another great informative video! F.Y.I. when using plastic threaded fittings NO teflon tape, pipe dope only. Why? It already is smooth and teflon enables us to overtighten, but soft threads will tear out. Keep up good work!
Thanks. I never heard that. I don't like using plastic but they didn't have brass nipples that size at HEP. Thanks for watching.
Correct!! seen many guys crack plastic pipe by putting to much Teflon tape on it when you don't need Teflon tape on plastic fittings.
Thank you man ...
It's not that bad of a fix if the tank is the problem. Thanks for watching.
I think you did a fantastic job before you rewired you should test for leak you managed to save a fourteen doing it yourself enjoyed the video ratch from the UK.
Thanks. Had to turn the pump on to check for leaks. It does save a lot to handle simple jobs like this by yourself. Thanks for watching.
Good skills 👍👍
Learning on the job. Thanks for watching.
Thx for this one. I have the same project lined up.
It seems these bladder tanks are the weak part when you have a well. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Well, I completed the tank replacement. Also got a completed water test. Decided to add a PH Neutralizer And a water softener. Trying to protect copper and from corrosion. Thanks for giving me confidence to take this on.
Swapped mine out last October. Put in a filter on the house side that catches an unbelievable amount of sediment. I used to have one of the spin down filters on the well side but took it out. I’ve about decided to put a new one in though because those house side filters only last about a month before you notice a reduction in water pressure.
I also have a sediment filter on that main line right above the tank. We had problems with fine bits of sand wearing out faucet cartridges. Ours is good for 6 months unless we do a lot of garden watering. Its amazing how much fine grit is carried by water. Always something to do when you own a home. Thanks for watching.
The nice thing about those reversible screwdrivers, one end becomes a 5/16 hex, whereas when you flip the shaft over for the other size Phillips and Flathead, the other side is a quarter inch hex driver!
It's the easy way to tighten clamps. Glad the Chinese haven't switched them to metric yet. Thanks for watching.
Well done
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the informative video. I've had to mess with my pump system many times and its never been fun. I think the worse thing when working on them is getting dirty and not being able to use the water inside the house until the job is completely fixed.
There's nothing like good well water but it does take some maintenance. Thanks for watching.
great info thx
Thanks for watching
Good video.
Thanks. Seems to be a common problem with home well systems. Thanks for watching.
Nice job
Thanks for watching.
Nice video. If it were me, the video would have gotten an R rating when the valve broke.
Your narration reminded me so much of the Red Green Show. I just kept waiting for something to blow up or catch fire, and I was disappointed when you didn't fix anything with Duck Tape.
Thanks. Luckily this went well and no plumbing was harmed in this video. Thanks for watching.
Thank you.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
Good work have to replace my tank to soon
They seem to be the weak link of a well system. Thanks for watching.
Nice video. We have 2 wells on the old home place, but they have not been used on a regular basis since the early 1960s when they extended municipal water lines. The last time I recall us pumping water from them was in the late 1970s.
Our last home had public water but we never really liked it and it was not good for plants. They talked about putting public water in up here but the bond was going to add almost $2000.00 a year to everyone's property tax bill forever so we voted it down. Thanks for watching.
Great video! If you really wanted to cheap out and save that 100 year old gate valve you could’ve used a hose bib cap, but then the packing on the valve stem would probably start leaking and tightening the packing nut would break the valve yada yada😬 Been there more times than I care to admit🤷🏼♂️
Back when stores were closed on sundays I did things like that. Thanks for watching.
enjoy all your vidieos, they have at lowes or home depot now , plastic unions , my pond pump need to clean foot valve once week to you could place one on intake where you used the torch to eliminate rhat next time they have o ring seal nice design, i just unscrew it and pull sx line out of pond and return it frustrating job only 5 min now, i use boiler drains seals seem to last longer than spigots, love the pool aluminum raised beds, im 70 now and every job, i think will out last me , but i hope they dont he he
That's a good idea, I will look at them when I pick up a faucet. Funny that's what I told my wife. This tank will outlast us. Thanks for watching.
I have a water well and I'm telling you its nice to have water coming in clean but when it breaks down, its a pain to deal with!
Good thing it doesn't happen to often. Thanks for watching.
that was a very good video
Thanks. It seems to be a common problem. Thanks for watching.
Thanks
Thanks for watching,
you should put the teflon tape on in the direction of the threads i believe you put it on in a reverse direction which causes the tape to unravel or bunch up as you thread the pipe.
best wishes
The first piece that had big rough threads I put it on that way and gave it extra wraps. I feel it seals rough threads better like that. The rest are the other way. Thanks for watching.
yep I need to check mine
They don't give you much warning. My last house had city water with 110 psi so I never had to worry about things like this before. Thanks for watching.
Great video, can you raise pressure in the tank if there's low pressure in the house ??
You would have to change the pressure switch and make sure your pump can handle it. This is a 40 to 60 psi switch and we have great pressure. Thanks for watching.
Chisel technique...interesting!
Thanks for watching.
My mom n dad had this system on a old farm house they bought. I hated when that system failed. It was old and parts scarce.
Out here in the country there is no town water so everyone has a setup like this. Well water is much better for a garden anyway. Thanks for watching.
I hate when things like that happen but everything eventually gets old and has to be repaired or replaced. Don't feel too bad about turning a job that should only take a half hour job into an hour job, I seem to take an hour job and turn it into 2 or 3 days and sometimes more than one trip to the hardware store.
Do you have trouble getting the seeds you save from the Habanadas you grow to germinate? I just wondered, I'm not doing any good getting mine to germinate, I thought they looked fully ripe when I picked the ones that I have tried seeds from but they have not wanted to germinate, I don't know exactly how dark an orange they are supposed to be, I really like those peppers they have a nice flavor and just a tad bit of heat, just about right. Thanks man, maybe nothing else will break on you for a good while, I seem to always have something I need to work on.
Thanks. I had no problem with the habanada seeds that I saved. I dried them on top of my fridge for a couple weeks then sealed them in small ziplock bags in the cellar for the winter. I used the heat mats for starting them this year and they germinated in a couple days. I got mine out late this year and they are still all green. Hopefully we get a couple more weeks before the first frost. Search for habanada on my channel and there is a canning video that shows the color they turn. Love thos things, are a couple in the garden today. Thanks for watching.
hello Sr. I watch your video n is very instructive. Thanks for shearing it. I got the same tank n my worries is that the water that runs in the fauces toilet n shower is to corrore (brown color) do you think is time to change my tank? The presión is good . N if I’ll change it I correct this problem? Thanks for your advaice or answer. 👋👋🙏🏻🙏🏻
Could be coming from the well also. Have you tried flushing the tank out and refilling it to see if it clears up. The tank is glass lined and should not corrode so you seem to have something different happing. Call a plumber if you can't figure it out.
I'm on well water, 10 years ago I had the failing well pump replaced and upgraded the tank to the next larger size, $2200, ouch, I had to do what I had to do. I bet the plumbers out in your area get $90 @ hour for that type of work, or more. What do you figure all the new parts cost you? Half hour job into an hour job? Hey you are saving a ton of money, pat yourself on your shoulder, we learn from you.
That hurt. This was only $325.00 for the parts so it wasn't to bad. I just hope the pump is not the next thing to go from all the cycling. There's nothing like well water for a garden. Thanks for watching.
Really interested to see you still using jubilee clips with polyethylene pipe. Do you not have MDPE fittings in the US which clamp onto the pipe (which normally has a liner pushed into it first? These are very quick and easy to employ, extremely reliable, and easy to disassemble when needed.
The make I use as standard is Philmac which have the bonus that they work with both metric and imperial sizes of MDPE pipe. For the boreholes I look after ALL of the pipework is MDPE and the only brass fittings are in general things like the check valves.
You are way ahead of us when comes to plumbung fittings. We have a fitting like that for smaller sizes called sharkbite fittings. that grab on the outer wall ofthe pipe . Thanks for watching.
Did you check the pressure in the tank and try to re fill before you replaced it? Mine was only about 10 PSI and should have been 2 lbs less than the cut out pressure, which was about 40.
I checked it and it was fine. Winder if your tank has a leak because they come pre charged. Thanks for watching.
Excellent information. Recently I noticed drop in pressure and now the water completely shuts off for 5-6 minutes before it kicks in. Pressue gauge in the tank shows 28 psi. It is a 30 year old tank connected to house well. Do I have to replace the tank? Any idea how much would that cost including labor? Please advise.
That's a completely different issue. You should call a plumber to diagnose what's wrong. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Thank you! We had service call with the well pump company and they replaced the switch, which was causing the problem. Now it works great.
At minute 16:00 You replaced an elbow and short piece of grey pipe going into the check valve. What type of material was that? How did you know how long to buy it? Simply measure it beforehand? After you tightened it into the check valve, you turned the elbow around on the left side and pointed it towards the rear of the tank to join up with the other piece of pipe. How did you tighten that Union (the gray elbow on the check valve side) afterwards? I didn't see what you did
You have to measure everything and make a list to get the right parts. Hone depot website is a gerat place to find out what's available. Just use 2 big wrenches to tighten the union. Thanks for watching.
After turning the system on for the first time. Did water come out of the faucet right away? Or,,,did it blow air for 3 minutes? After checking the presser of my tank. I turned it all back on, and the sink faucet blew air for about 3 to 5 minutes. I has to add 10 PSI to my tank because it was low. Bad Tank or is this normal?
If you drained the pipes in your whole house it could blow air for a couple seconds. The tank pressure must be set per your system pressure according to the instructions with the tank or the bladder can be damaged. If you are getting constant air I wonder if your well pump or pipe may have a problem where it leaks back into the well or out into the ground behind the check valve. The tank only fixed constantly cycling water log problems. Thanks for watching.
My well pump is cycling off and on a couple times a day when no water is used at all. I suspect the check valve is got some sand in it somewhere and is allowing the tank water to run back out into the well. Is this possible?
That could be it. Could also be a hidden leak in the house or toilet valve. Turn off the main house valve for a couple hours and see if the pressure drops any. If not probably the check valve. Thanks for watching.
This video was about a month too late for me! LOL! I had the same symptoms. Ended up buying the exact same tank online, although the coupler was different it all worked out OK. I didn't have a lot of confidence, but I pressed through it. Saved myself a ton of money and aggravation in the process. My bladder was completely burst, as soon I went to check pressure, water was pushing out. I took the core out to help drain the tank. Great video, thanks for sharing!
I am still trying to empty that tank. I don't see any way to get the diaphragm out and it will just drip out the air valve 😧. I hate to make my garbage man pick up something that heavy. The replacement looks like a well made tank and had good reviews so I figured it should last as long as the last one. I was surprised Home depot quit selling all the accessories for installing it. Thanks for watching.
drill a hole in it to drain out.
You can just put a cap on the dripping faucet and save a few bucks since it's rarely used.
That's cheating. Won't take long to swap it out. Thanks for watching.
I see this all the time, people putting on teflon tape the wrong way, tape goes on like you are threading a nut on the threads, this way when you thread it on the tape tightens. Good video tho. if you notice the teflon tape was coming off. Hope you don't have a leak.
I find on the larger fittings with rough cut threads it works best this way. Small fittings I wrap the other way. Thanks for watching.
I never reuse parts when it comes to water. Dunno how the situation is in NA, but here in Europe, the quality on some of these parts is already shoddy at best, reusing them is just asking for trouble.
I found that out 😕. It definitely was stamped China and the alloy seemed to be consumed by the water. We all learn from our mistakes. Thanks for watching.
Next time if you know it's waterlogged shut off the power and open a faucet, and shoot some air in the tank using the Schrader valve that's on top of tank. It will force the water back through the leaking air bladder and allow you to drain the tank.
I tried that outside and nothing came out. Took a steel rod to make a big enough hole to get it squirting out. Thanks for watching.
Teflon tape alone is good enough? Everything held up?
So far it good. Had to replace the over pressure valve because of drips. Thanks for watching.
great video, amigo. anyone ever tell you you sound like jay leno?
No, everyone so far has said Red Green or Woody Harrelson. Thanks for watching.
Hour job? That would’ve taken me all day!
If I count my afternoon nap that's really how long it took me 😏. Thanks for watching.
This is what I have to do.lost pressure while gardening? In house like eggs smells. I know what is wrong.now to do it.
if it smells like eggs you have sulphur in your water. They make filters to remove that. Thanks for watching.
I would of drilled a hole in the old tank to drain it but some people like to combine home repair and lifting weights, saves on gym memberships.
It's outside now and that will probably happen next because it only drips out the valve stem. Don't want to make my garbage man pick it up like that. Thanks for watching
Put the Teflon tape on the same way you tighten your pipe 😮 .
The larger fittings with poorly cut threads I wind the other way or use lampwick and dope. Thanks for watching.
I'd replace that garbage gate valve faucet with a ball valve type. Costs slightly more but will last much longer and be much more reliable.
That will outlast me. Never really touch it because everything has its own valve. Thanks for watching.
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Thanks for watching.
You put the teflon tape on backwards. Other than that great work !
I do that on the big rough cut threads. Have had better luck with them sealing. Thanks for watching.
couldn't you have open the shrader valve to allow air in so the tank water would come out ,,
No when you depressurize it the bladder seals the hole back up. Probably pressurizing the top would help but less mess just moving it out like that. Thanks for watching
2 things??? At 3:33/3:50 what is the line coming into the house just to your left?? When you where sawing there was a nut sliding done on the line??? Also I think you put the teflon tape on your 1st (copper) fitting the wrong way & maybe in a 2nd place???? Best you check your video, I could be wrong????
Its the electric wire from the pump I pushed out of the way, the strain relief nut I slipped on the wire so it wouldn't get lost. On those big fittings with rough threads I find it doesn't matter which way you wrap. with about 10 interwoven layers no problem. Thanks for watching.
Home Depot.... Good luck getting another 15 years out of this tank.
Time will tell. Thanks for watching.
4:40 preshureise the tank with air valve to while emtying
5:10 telfon tape in wrong direktion!
Still good, no leaks. Thanks for watching.
The bladder is in the tank...the diagram is inside the pressure switch...
Yes and you can change just that out if you can find a replacement. Thanks for watching.
Is there anything you can't do? haha!
Plenty. I am willing to try anything at least once. Thanks for watching.
Never did see any bad diaphragm symptoms
A tank full of water behind the bladder is definitely a symptom.
Don't use the torch. use hot water. Trust me.
That would make a mess. Thanks for watching.
You are applying the Teflon Tape in the wrong direction.
That's how I wrap it on those big coarse cut threads. Small stuff is wrapped the other way. Thanks for watching.
WaterWorker is not what I would buy
Stiill good and that was all that was available locally with the plumbing house closed down. Thanks for watching.
learn to put teflon tape on.....only helping....
I always wrap that way on the big fittings with coarse cut threads. Small fittings the other way. Thanks for watching.