I fell in love with her as soon as I saw her. (In Fate/Grand Order) Seeing her being summoned in Apocrypha made me so excited, and I had high expectations for her in Apocrypha.
worse than Emiya, coz at least Emiya had development and needed to train while Sieg is just, I can become an overpowered servant anytime without even needing to get used to it because Siegfried decided that a homunculus is worth more than the grail.
Sieg is worse than Emiya because at least Emiya had a personality and he trained hard to succeed in the Holy Grail War. Sieg on the other hand is the most boring, lifeless character I’ve ever seen and he managed to overpower every other servant without any training.
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Well could be argued that when he transforms he also inherits the fighting abilities. I didn't like Sieg at first but after a few watches, he grows on you. There's just a lot of things going on in Apocrypha; so many simultaneous stories it's hard to really hard to get a good grasp on the characters. He's basically a Homonculous which had 0 potential. He was MEANT to be lifeless. Yet, he somehow became alive and is trying to make sense of what is around him; struggling about moral questions and stuff.
@@polog1566 Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I liked Jeanne and Astolfo. But Seig and his 'romance'(?) were not very engaging. Mordred and Shishigo (forgive me if I misspelled that) had much more potential and great chemistry. At least they owned every bit of their screen time.
Mordred was my favorite in Apocrypha but then I realised that this useless humunculus with no emotions and this trap will be the main characters...I was also so upset. But in the end we got Jeanne D‘Arc as a great character (lets not talk about the romance with dis dumbfuck)
Mordred was like a damn wild animal, but strangely innocent and pure all the same. She may have been hung up chasing King Arthur's shadow, but I liked that fragility of hers. Which is why she and Kairi Shishigou were one of the best pairs in that series. They had such great chemistry, and honestly, necromancer or not... he was a good person.
Well if you want to see how Mordred develops more then you'll have to play Fate/Grand Order. Her character development post-F/A is rather fun to see in Fate/GO especially now the other members of the Knights of the Round Table knows Mordred's identity as well. Gawain still has some issues with Mordred, despite getting past his old issues, but it is mostly the part that he now knows Mordred is a girl.
orrthehunter I'm on Singularity 4, n I'm looking forward to seeing more of her. Also, I kinda feel conflicted cuz the only reason Mordred was so uptight ab9ut her gender was because of her quest to become "King". Cuz, goddammit, Mordred is a damn hottie! Kinda sucked that as a homunculus she wouldn't have lived very long though even if she hadn't been killed at Camlann...
I would suggest Tristan's Interlude if you want to see some serious character development for Mordred, Gawian, Lancelot, and Tristan. This interlude storyline is just so good to see how they have developed and gotten past their issues to working together again.
Kinda wholesome when you realize that Kairi and Mordred wishes already come true. Kairi only needs to tell Mordred that King Arthur might be your father but ain't your daddy.
I love Mordred’s character as a whole. Hell to even say she is best girl. Her past, despite being tragedy, nothing more but to be acknowledged, much like the people who served, by her father/mother to become the rightful ruler of Camelot. She is quite the servant at that as well. Being able to back up, well everything with her incredible power as well as her chemistry with shishigou despite him being a necromancer is just incredible to me. Just so disappointed with the fact she was not the main servant. One day Mordred, one day
I made mordred as a dnd character and our DM orchestrated the whole holy grail war in the background of the campaign. It was ended one fateful day when the party stumbled across the deck of many things and Mordred could not keep herself from the chance at with held within those cards. She caved and drew just one card. That card was the card of fate. It allowed her to erase any one single event in history. So in the end Mordred got her wish and won the holy grail war without killing a single servant (only because the bastard Davy Jones escaped).
Grail be like. "This one wants a daughter, this one wants a father. Badabing badaboom, wishes granted." Mordred and Shishigou might not have won the war... but they're the only ones who got what they wanted. (Well... them and Shakespeare. xD)
@Semih Kral He'd probably get along with Robin Hood fairly well, the two of them share a fair bit in common as far as well as sharing similar preferences for combat. I mean Archer and his master basically had the same relationship Kiritsugu and Saber had, just reversed, so yeah.
@@Mari-zh5nq in a way they were still fated to be, he showed her people are willing to do terrible things for a good cause, not everyone thinks the same as a knight, not everyone gets to be a hero
@arnold jayeolanah if you think about it Morgana needed Mordred but Mordred never truly needed Morgana when she became a Knight. If Arturia had acknowledged her early on Mordred wouldn't have betrayed her. Granted I still believe the round table would have still fallen apart because of Arturias own personal flaws.
@arnold jayeolashe's Homunculus with a shortened life span. But where do we get the confirmation that it was programmed into her? We just know Slshe just goes along with it because her Mother tells her to
@arnold jayeola But that doesn't answer my question? Aside from that Im Pretty sure its stated Mordred isn't like other Homonculus. In the same way Frankentsein isn't like other Homonculus.
Arthur's story was pretty sad when all was said and done. Cheated on by his wife with his best friend, schemed against by his sister, then betrayed and killed by his most loyal subordinate.
@@operviiir plus the fate series kinda makes it a big mix-mash of all the different endings, and leaves what actually happened rather ambiguous if it doesn't outright show us the multiple endings implying that each arthuian heroic spirit comes from a different version of the legend. That way they can give them each different personalities based on what version of themselves they represent.
Well, Treachery is a really big word for her, but the world will still remember her as the treacherous knight. It's kinda sad, she only wanted the throne for letting Arturia/Altria enjoy her own life by releasing her of the King's duty, and it end up like a bloody mess.
Your King Yeah, Jack should've gone for Maria the Ripper as soon as Mordred dispelled the mist. Editted cause I wrote Maris instead of Maria. XP _(the fuck, Jack is from Mars)_ 😆😆😆
I don't know about the top voted commenters and their voters but I specifically understand that the ending lines right before Mordred's death and Shishigou's death were all about their realization that their time together was actually their wishes being fulfilled. Shishigou at the end admitted that he just wanted to spend time with his daughter and well taking into account how Mordred became friends with him it probably worked for him. The same can be said about Mordred, who at the end, realized, she just wanted to support the king, and not dethrone him. By supporting Shishigo who she started to respect and treat him as a friend she most likely completed this wish too. Hence their journey together was all about the support of a king and time spent with a daughter. Which would from a filmmaker's perspective make sense of the final shot where their cigarettes came close together and met. This is most likely why Shishigo asks her if it was fun right before he dies and after she responds that it was really fun she wonders if her father's (King Arthur's) last moments were also like this = another link to her line of thought about supporting her father, the king.
She's the main character though as she always steal the show everytime she appear. Plus Mordred and Kairi got their wish granted with a master wants a good daughter and a servant wants a good father. Kairi can go ahead and tell Mordred that Artoria might be her father but aint her daddy, and that would definitely make Mordred more feel better.
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My favourite master & servent pair in fate apocrypha Shishigo has lost his daughter & Mordred got killed by father. A master who lost kid & a servent who need father's love.Nice pair and I like it.
I can vouch that yes, Mordred didn’t fully understand the purpose of being a king. And it takes a lot to not only shoulder the burden of her/his father. But the subjects of the kingdom and the responsibilities that comes with it. Meanwhile, Altoria was very responsible of her statues and was the “ideal king” to her subjects. Mordred was conceived by Between Altoria and Morgan le fe (her sister) which Altoria herself doesn’t understand how to become a parent who would understand or nurture a child that was reckless, arrogant, or even demanding. In the Anime, we saw that young Altoria was about to pull Excalibur, however: when received with a warning from Merlin, she didn’t hesitate, rather she was ready to take responsibility. Mordred only wanted to tend and help her father. To take the throne and pick up the piece she left behind and become a king worthy to be excepted by her father. It’s a harsh relationship. A child who wanted to be recognized by her parent. While the parent is stuck in between of responsibility and nurturing.
@@hasu_shinha7054 Artoria is written like a good (medieval) king though You can either be a good king or a good person, combining the two was a rarity
Even as an Artoria stan, I can confirm this. I love everything about Saber, just can't come to terms with how she dealt with Mordred her whole life, and how she still treats her.
I dont care what people say she is one of my favorite servants and a great character apocrypha was a great show and I know this is all true cause mordred was my first 5 star in fate go
Nice. My first 5* was Vlad. Shame he's a berserker in that one instead of his Lancer of Black counterpart. Though I guess he would be a bit too powerful if he didn't have the berserker weaknesses. Trying to collect all the Apocrypha servants. (So far I've got Vlad, Astolfo, Jeanne, Atlanta, and Siegfried [he was my first servant overall, aside from the best eggplant kohai])
In her actual legend she or technically he was actually hesitant to even fight her/his kin and the reason camelot fall does not only fall on her shoulder but mostly on Lancelot and Guinevere, their forbidden love being the main reason Camelot fell
Weakness is a sin I shall rise the ranks I shall be the saint that will save you all Weakness is a sin The floors run red the Sky bath in blood Are you proud of me now father?
Mordred is definitely my favorite servant in the entire fate series.I could even say she is best girl. A lot of people hate her for her past where is brought an entire country almost to ruin and killed thousands of people because Arthuria/Arthur didnt give her the throne.But her past is one of the reasons why I love her,she has clearly flaws like everyone does,whether you like it or not as much as you love a character as a waifu or husbando they always have a flaw in them. Perhaps her rampage could have been stopped and continue the life of a knight or who knows maybe the treacherous knight could be a very heroic knight. And at last,this is the reason I love Mordred,she has weaknesses,strength and a very well written character.
Even then, considering her past, a lot of it is mostly caused by Arthur. Same argument can be done for Lancelot slaughtering like half of the Round Table. Sadly, instead of speaking her mind clearly when she had to, her silence just doomed everyone. But yeah, I figure the situation is somewhat on her too.
Thats why i loved her. I dont Know why but when People talking about how she killed many People, destroy everything, Caused the death of most knights of the round table, killing gawain (i guess) and many things that she did and i dont remember now makes me want to say cool or funny. And thats why camelot Singularity doesnt Make sense to me. She killed theme so how could they work together? If it was Just agravain it could Make sense but gawain? I dont think so Maybe im wrong but this is what i think 😶
Honestly Apoc's servant showing was pretty stacked Mo is top tier, Achilles may be one note but is a total bro and bounces really well off Chiron, Karna is straight up my favorite fate servant and has one of the coolest legends of any heroic spirit imo.
I know the show wanted you to fall in love with Jeanne D'arc as the shows main heroine, but Mordred was that girl for me. It wasn't about a love story for her, but rather overcoming her past and acceptance. She is my favorite Saber in all of Fate. Artoria comes in 2nd for me followed by Miyamoto.
Me:"Oh look, another saberface as main character" Fate/Apo: " _Jeanne is a saberface too I guess_ " However imo Janne was good, but Mordred better, the problem was Sieg
@@lazex58 rules to deal with mordred by shishigou: do not treat her as a guy do not treat her as a girl do not praise artoria do not disdain or mock artoria also as shown in apochypha and grand order mordred dont care much if you call she or her as long you dont treat her in a girly manner...
Mostly of the heroes on Apocrypha get their wishes granted, not in the way we want to see, by the grial and mostly of the people who complain about apocrypha didnt see that how sad :/ The anime have his mistake but it is a good anime :3
Mordred and Arturia / Artoria / Saber are my two favorite characters, and more because they are based on my most favorite story, that of Ray Arturo (although it was very tragic)
I’m sure Clarent Blood Arthur is from the original series, or referencing something from Mordred’s origin, but image if her NP was called something like “Camlann Kingbreaker” I think it sounds a bit cooler
Clarent was the sword Arthur used for knighting folks it was a symbol of ones loyalty to the King that Mordred turned into a symbol of rebellion and defiance
Guys, am not gonna lie. I watched Fate Grand Order Babylonia first, then unlimited Blade works second. Am a grown ass dude but these guys sure know how to make a dude weep. This anime does pull out the concept of bonds between people VERY VERY WELL. The only other anime that made me weep was Shiki. And from what i see in the comments section, looks like am going to cry again. So lemme get this straight.. Atoria Pendragon/Saber of Unlimited Blade Works was the 'Father' of Mordred the current saber???
Oof. There's a bit of explaining to do here. Yes, Artoria is Mordred's father. Artoria was made male briefly by Merlin so she could consummate her relationship with her wife/the queen, but then she was kidnapped and used to produce Mordred by Morgan, her sister. But there is no "current" Saber. Fate/Stay Night, UBW, and Heaven's Feel are all in their own continuity. They are three different paths for the same story. Fate/Zero is the prequel to Stay Night, and sets up many events in Stay Night. Fate Grand/Order is an alternate timeline where only one Holy Grail War happens, and Apocrypha is also an alternate timeline. *slight spoilers for Fate/Stay Night I haven't seen all of Heaven's Feel so I can't fully explain this, but the reason the grail is corrupted in Stay Night and Fate/Zero is because in the third Holy Grail War, instead of summoning (I think) Berserker, the Einzberns "cheated" by summoning a different, eighth class. In the original Stay Night timeline, they summon Avenger, True Name Angra Mainu, who is representative of "all the evils in the world". He was actually the weakest servant to ever exist, which obviously lead to his and the Einzberns' defeat. The thing is, defeated servants are absorbed by the Grail, and so the Grail absorbed the embodiment of all the evils in the world and became corrupted. *slight spoilers for Apocrypha if you haven't seen it* Apocrypha is called "Apocrypha" because it starts from a scenario that doesn't happen in main storyline canon in which the Einzberns summon a Ruler instead of an Avenger. Thus, Amakusa Shirou is brought into the world. I don't know much else about the third Holy Grail War, so I don't know if the participants changed (I assume so, cuz the guy trying to become immortal in Apocrypha seemed to be too powerful to lose the war in any timeline he participated in), but yeah.
@@juangalvez2404 damn. I though Kiritsugu's death was a curse of Angra from Irisviel for rejecting her. Watched Apocrypha already. Watched Grand Order. It was the first thing i watched before i moved to Unlimited Blade WORKS. Haven't watched heaven's feel. Seems like the same thing as UBW
@@montro-city9920 Oh, no, Kiritsugu's death was the curse of the Grail... but they don't really explain more than that. Also, the Grail was not Irisviel, it was Angra presenting himself as Irisviel. He cursed Kiritsugu for rejecting the ability to make a wish. The Grand Order Babylonia anime is actually the second-to-last section (singularity) of the story for the Fate mobile game. I believe the first singularity was also made into an anime, but I don't know its name. The Fate, UBW, and Heaven's Feel routes all involve the same characters and the same premise, but the stories diverge pretty radically. Like Shirou doesn't learn that Archer is him from the future in the Fate route, and the main love interest/focus is Saber in the Fate route. The antagonist at the end of UBW is Gilgamesh, but at the end of Fate, Kotomine and Ilya are both still alive to fight. The main love interest for Heaven's Feel is Sakura, and it's the most grim route of the three because you learn her backstory, as well as some other things. Suffice to say, they're all pretty different.
@@juangalvez2404 you were right. Heavens Feel is totally different. Watched the first movie yesterday. Rider is still around after being defeated with one hit in Unlimited Blade Works. Caster was wiped out. But GOD Caster was beautiful. We still don't know Rider's identity.
@@rseiko9411 still best girl Celineke is crazy Atalante is baby crazy. Mordred tsundere Jeanne too religious Berzerker... no. Semiramis is toxic.... literally. Jack. Hell no. Fiore is best biological female... but paralyzed. Leaving only.... the _Trap_ of Argalia
@@brandonwilliams3777 you'd be surprised by the harships one has to endure when he knows proper english spelling but still decides to read youtube comments
I love Mordred and I really feel bad for her. but we can't forget the fact that she killed thousands of people and destroyed a whole country just because her female daddy didn't give her a big chair
I mean she was an emotionally manipulated 10 or so year old. it was more the straw that broke the camels back than anything. that's what makes a tragedy. something completely avoidable if only things had gone a little differently.
@@TGPDrunknHick An emotionally manipulated 10 year old who hero worshipped a father who denied relation to an illegitimate child at that...doubt Artoria intended for this but you can almost hear Mordred's dreams being shattered.
Well have you met the English? They had it coming. If only there was a Mordred around the time they colonised Ireland, they would have had a much harder time of achieving their plans for domination.
Ahh Mordred. The knight died of treason in her first life remembered as treacherous knight but died second time as a loyal knight and no one knows it but us weeb.
Sadly for you,Mor was a clone of Arturia and will die soon (about 6 or 7 yeahat least),that why Morgan have a spell that control Mordred dead body inside her.(morgan know Mordred will die soon)
Fun fact: When Artoria went to Rome to stop the war between the countries she left Mordred and Gawain to take care of the country, basically act as the king, it makes sense to leave Gawain because together with Bedi as Kay he is one of the knights who has been with Artoria from the beginning and one she can trust, but Mordred was an odd choice, specially after the revelation of her being her son/clone, and then she returned later and the rebellion had started, and they had just ended the war with Rome.
Mordred was like a damn wild animal, but strangely innocent and pure all the same. She may have been hung up chasing King Arthur's shadow, but I liked that fragility of hers.
Ab 1:37 einfach nur unglaublich Gänsehaut pur bis jetzt war Kenji Kawai der beste Komponist gewesen aber nachdem ich dieses Lied gehört habe bin ich wirklich hin und weg ❤️
Thinking about it: Saber never showed off any extra flashy NPs like Achilles or Karna, but she did went to town with Astolfo, Fran and Siegfried back-to-back and only got some Armor chipped off after getting hit point blank by Frans NP in the third round.
Mordred is such a good character, sometimes I didn’t like her especially when she was fighting against Sig, Astolfo and Frankenstein’s Monster But yeah overall she’s great
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Mordred turned out to be one of the most intersting fate servant characters. I love her and her chemistry with Kairi Shishigou
I fell in love with her as soon as I saw her. (In Fate/Grand Order)
Seeing her being summoned in Apocrypha made me so excited, and I had high expectations for her in Apocrypha.
PlayerOne Gamer!, Vloger!, yea I agree He is Just Like Emiya
worse than Emiya, coz at least Emiya had development and needed to train while Sieg is just, I can become an overpowered servant anytime without even needing to get used to it because Siegfried decided that a homunculus is worth more than the grail.
Sieg is worse than Emiya because at least Emiya had a personality and he trained hard to succeed in the Holy Grail War.
Sieg on the other hand is the most boring, lifeless character I’ve ever seen and he managed to overpower every other servant without any training.
Well could be argued that when he transforms he also inherits the fighting abilities. I didn't like Sieg at first but after a few watches, he grows on you. There's just a lot of things going on in Apocrypha; so many simultaneous stories it's hard to really hard to get a good grasp on the characters. He's basically a Homonculous which had 0 potential. He was MEANT to be lifeless. Yet, he somehow became alive and is trying to make sense of what is around him; struggling about moral questions and stuff.
I was so upset when I realized that Mordred and her master were NOT going to be the main characters of the series.
Instead the main characters were a trap and a clone that uses the heart of dragon slayer
@@polog1566
Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I liked Jeanne and Astolfo. But Seig and his 'romance'(?) were not very engaging.
Mordred and Shishigo (forgive me if I misspelled that) had much more potential and great chemistry. At least they owned every bit of their screen time.
Mordred is also voiced by miyuki sawashiro she makes any character legendary.
Mordred was my favorite in Apocrypha but then I realised that this useless humunculus with no emotions and this trap will be the main characters...I was also so upset. But in the end we got Jeanne D‘Arc as a great character (lets not talk about the romance with dis dumbfuck)
@@rseiko9411 lets be honest Jeanne is boring
Mordred was like a damn wild animal, but strangely innocent and pure all the same.
She may have been hung up chasing King Arthur's shadow, but I liked that fragility of hers.
Which is why she and Kairi Shishigou were one of the best pairs in that series. They had such great chemistry, and honestly, necromancer or not... he was a good person.
Good thing it is that Mordred finally understood King Arthuria's struggle in her perfection and made peace with it
CMUHW
Not that Artoria was a very understanding person back when either...
But yeah, I'm glad she had Kairi Shishigou with her.
Well if you want to see how Mordred develops more then you'll have to play Fate/Grand Order. Her character development post-F/A is rather fun to see in Fate/GO especially now the other members of the Knights of the Round Table knows Mordred's identity as well. Gawain still has some issues with Mordred, despite getting past his old issues, but it is mostly the part that he now knows Mordred is a girl.
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I'm on Singularity 4, n I'm looking forward to seeing more of her.
Also, I kinda feel conflicted cuz the only reason Mordred was so uptight ab9ut her gender was because of her quest to become "King".
Cuz, goddammit, Mordred is a damn hottie! Kinda sucked that as a homunculus she wouldn't have lived very long though even if she hadn't been killed at Camlann...
I would suggest Tristan's Interlude if you want to see some serious character development for Mordred, Gawian, Lancelot, and Tristan. This interlude storyline is just so good to see how they have developed and gotten past their issues to working together again.
Kinda wholesome when you realize that Kairi and Mordred wishes already come true.
Kairi only needs to tell Mordred that King Arthur might be your father but ain't your daddy.
Kairi’s my real dad.
I love Mordred’s character as a whole. Hell to even say she is best girl. Her past, despite being tragedy, nothing more but to be acknowledged, much like the people who served, by her father/mother to become the rightful ruler of Camelot. She is quite the servant at that as well. Being able to back up, well everything with her incredible power as well as her chemistry with shishigou despite him being a necromancer is just incredible to me. Just so disappointed with the fact she was not the main servant. One day Mordred, one day
I made mordred as a dnd character and our DM orchestrated the whole holy grail war in the background of the campaign. It was ended one fateful day when the party stumbled across the deck of many things and Mordred could not keep herself from the chance at with held within those cards. She caved and drew just one card. That card was the card of fate. It allowed her to erase any one single event in history. So in the end Mordred got her wish and won the holy grail war without killing a single servant (only because the bastard Davy Jones escaped).
@@cometthegreat8750 That sounds like it was one helluva session. Did the campaign go by the holy grail war rules or else, how did it go?
*AHEM*-- best WHAT, now?
@@MattCantor Best. Girl.
@@cometthegreat8750 Which event did she erase? I love hearing good D&D stories.
Grail be like. "This one wants a daughter, this one wants a father. Badabing badaboom, wishes granted."
Mordred and Shishigou might not have won the war... but they're the only ones who got what they wanted. (Well... them and Shakespeare. xD)
Damn right Shakespeare got his wish
Jeanne got what she wanted too
I think in a way semiramis got hers too
@@masterchef175 yes
Astolfo got what he wanted, too. Fun, friendship, adventure, and to do what's right.
Oh god imagine if Kiritsugu had Mordred as a servant
They'd get along a bit better than Kiritsugu and Artoria, but not by much since she's so emotional and conceited
Maybe even Kiritsugu as his assassin servant self would be good
@Semih Kral He'd probably get along with Robin Hood fairly well, the two of them share a fair bit in common as far as well as sharing similar preferences for combat.
I mean Archer and his master basically had the same relationship Kiritsugu and Saber had, just reversed, so yeah.
Kiritsugu didnt deserve artoria as his servant
@@Mari-zh5nq in a way they were still fated to be, he showed her people are willing to do terrible things for a good cause, not everyone thinks the same as a knight, not everyone gets to be a hero
Meanwhile...
Spartacus: *Did I just heard REBELLION?!*
KORE GA SPARTACUSU DE ARU
*_OH OPPRESOR IN THE DISTANCE TRY TO SLASH ME!!!_*
They actually have a role in LB3.
@@rebelblade7159 GRAVITY IS JUST ANOTHER OPPRESSOR
@@GamerJosh2611 *proceed to forcefully summoned himself to year which newton still alive and pummel him with the force of god to oblivion
I wish this song played during her NP in Fate/Grand Order. It's freaking amazing.
0:34
And it would start with that point.
@@ErenxJ That is would be some eargasm.
Please dw upgrade my mordreds skills and add music to np🙏😣
@@fv8399 Then, you 'll have sprite updated. Happy ? lol
Coming to NA in April with the animation update
Kairi and Mordred actually were the one protagonist of Fate Apocrypha
Fite me
The only reason they dont have more screentime is because it would probably just be them chilling not really doing anything
Says the guy with a Jeanne avatar.
@@NEETKitten not everyone's favourite character is the main protagonist of anime
@@gwenchana9219 Maybe not, but he's kinda sending mixed signals.
@@NEETKitten You can have a character you like very much while appreciating that another character is objectively better
All this time... I was happy being in your shadow, but you never once even turned around to look me in the eye!
Ouch
Yup, Mordred really should just live for herself. Not chasing Arturias shadow.
@arnold jayeolanah if you think about it Morgana needed Mordred but Mordred never truly needed Morgana when she became a Knight. If Arturia had acknowledged her early on Mordred wouldn't have betrayed her. Granted I still believe the round table would have still fallen apart because of Arturias own personal flaws.
@arnold jayeolashe's Homunculus with a shortened life span. But where do we get the confirmation that it was programmed into her? We just know Slshe just goes along with it because her Mother tells her to
@arnold jayeola But that doesn't answer my question? Aside from that Im Pretty sure its stated Mordred isn't like other Homonculus. In the same way Frankentsein isn't like other Homonculus.
Arthur's story was pretty sad when all was said and done. Cheated on by his wife with his best friend, schemed against by his sister, then betrayed and killed by his most loyal subordinate.
Bedivere didn't kill him?
@@operviiir he put him out of his misery. He was fatally wounded by Mordred if I recall
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@@operviiir well yeah actually. Like with many old tales there are multiple versions, we aren't exactly sure which one is the original anymore.
@@operviiir plus the fate series kinda makes it a big mix-mash of all the different endings, and leaves what actually happened rather ambiguous if it doesn't outright show us the multiple endings implying that each arthuian heroic spirit comes from a different version of the legend. That way they can give them each different personalities based on what version of themselves they represent.
Mordred's theme sounds strangely heroic for a woman defined by treachery .
Well, Treachery is a really big word for her, but the world will still remember her as the treacherous knight. It's kinda sad, she only wanted the throne for letting Arturia/Altria enjoy her own life by releasing her of the King's duty, and it end up like a bloody mess.
Who doesn't love a good rebellion to get the people fired up?
"Next time you call me woman i might not be able to hold my self back, understood!"....her words not mine.😂😂😂
"woman"
va te faire foutre either one is just as badass
Mordred need to get more screentime in fate series.
Shes there since original vn. I mean she appeared 3 fucking times in main storyline of fgo. No other non main char servant got that much
Not to mention that’s she is one of the most used servants as support Saber.
@@LesEnfants1972 because she is one of the best AOE Saber.
That's why she's my main Saber in Grand order lol
need london anime
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*[Crimson Lightning!]*
"MARIA THE RIPPER!"
*Mordred dies*
Fubukio
Mordred directly countered Jack though. If gayboy Chiron did not interrupt, Mordred woulda slayed Jack quite easily.
Your King Yeah, Jack should've gone for Maria the Ripper as soon as Mordred dispelled the mist.
Editted cause I wrote Maris instead of Maria. XP _(the fuck, Jack is from Mars)_ 😆😆😆
MrDibara
Maria the Ripper can't be activated once the mist is gone. That was my point when I said Mordred countered Jack.
Your King OH!
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Right.
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I forgot that. 😅
I don't know about the top voted commenters and their voters but I specifically understand that the ending lines right before Mordred's death and Shishigou's death were all about their realization that their time together was actually their wishes being fulfilled.
Shishigou at the end admitted that he just wanted to spend time with his daughter and well taking into account how Mordred became friends with him it probably worked for him.
The same can be said about Mordred, who at the end, realized, she just wanted to support the king, and not dethrone him. By supporting Shishigo who she started to respect and treat him as a friend she most likely completed this wish too.
Hence their journey together was all about the support of a king and time spent with a daughter. Which would from a filmmaker's perspective make sense of the final shot where their cigarettes came close together and met.
This is most likely why Shishigo asks her if it was fun right before he dies and after she responds that it was really fun she wonders if her father's (King Arthur's) last moments were also like this = another link to her line of thought about supporting her father, the king.
Mordred is my Favorite Servant/Character in all of Fate.
If you want to read something uber dark go read the original lore of mordred and his atrocious deeds
Same. Best girl.
Remember when you thought she was going to be the main character?
SIKES
Good times. It would be way better... Even Jeanne falling in love with Mordred would have more sence than cartonbox Sieg... Oh well, Type moon.
She's the main character though as she always steal the show everytime she appear. Plus Mordred and Kairi got their wish granted with a master wants a good daughter and a servant wants a good father.
Kairi can go ahead and tell Mordred that Artoria might be her father but aint her daddy, and that would definitely make Mordred more feel better.
@@kubakwak921 I've got the product for you: otakumode.com/shop/5c9c5ca2441ea27a1d638fc6/Fate-Apocrypha-Jeanne-d-Arc-Mordred-TYPE-MOON-Racing-Ver-1-7-Scale-Figure
@@Monke-fj2qz YES!
@@kubakwak921 THANK YOU. Finally someone with enough brain to understand that. Sieg was complete nonsense, an empty Mary Sue shell
the thing i like about mordred is her personality and her wild fighting style...
Exactly
A little more wild and she would be a Berserker.
@@robindumorabeyriere2870 "maybe" Grand Berserker would be her lol
nah i don't think so
@@fletarious Berserker class Mordred would be really op.
Now this boys and girls, is what a true saber's theme sounds like
This and the Luffy vs Lucci one; they rev me the FUCK up.
@@jameswatt2027 Good choice.
Best servant in series and best OST
2. best. Eiyuu ou sama was and always will be the greatest in all realms!!
Mongrel, the King of Heroes would like a word
My favourite master & servent pair in fate apocrypha
Shishigo has lost his daughter & Mordred got killed by father. A master who lost kid & a servent who need father's love.Nice pair and I like it.
Let's be real, Mordred may not have been ready/suited for kingship but Artoria was no way in Hell suited to be a parent
I can vouch that yes, Mordred didn’t fully understand the purpose of being a king. And it takes a lot to not only shoulder the burden of her/his father. But the subjects of the kingdom and the responsibilities that comes with it. Meanwhile, Altoria was very responsible of her statues and was the “ideal king” to her subjects. Mordred was conceived by Between Altoria and Morgan le fe (her sister) which Altoria herself doesn’t understand how to become a parent who would understand or nurture a child that was reckless, arrogant, or even demanding. In the Anime, we saw that young Altoria was about to pull Excalibur, however: when received with a warning from Merlin, she didn’t hesitate, rather she was ready to take responsibility. Mordred only wanted to tend and help her father. To take the throne and pick up the piece she left behind and become a king worthy to be excepted by her father. It’s a harsh relationship. A child who wanted to be recognized by her parent. While the parent is stuck in between of responsibility and nurturing.
@@hasu_shinha7054 Artoria is written like a good (medieval) king though
You can either be a good king or a good person, combining the two was a rarity
Not like she chose to even have a kid tho
Even as an Artoria stan, I can confirm this. I love everything about Saber, just can't come to terms with how she dealt with Mordred her whole life, and how she still treats her.
@@qeditz1547 Artoria DID chose to have a kid
The plan was to have a kid with Guinevere, but Artoria wanted a kid nonetheless
Fate Apocrypha had many interesting characters and servants, I only wish we got more time with them all.
She is so underrated! Also the show deserves much more credit! I totally enjoyed it.
There's something kinda sad about this song. It's fast paced and high energy but it also feels desperate and like it's crying out. I love it 😢
KORE KOSO WA, WAGA CHICHIUE KOROSU NO JAKEN, KURARENTO BLAAD ASAA
I dont care what people say she is one of my favorite servants and a great character apocrypha was a great show and I know this is all true cause mordred was my first 5 star in fate go
Nice. My first 5* was Vlad. Shame he's a berserker in that one instead of his Lancer of Black counterpart. Though I guess he would be a bit too powerful if he didn't have the berserker weaknesses. Trying to collect all the Apocrypha servants. (So far I've got Vlad, Astolfo, Jeanne, Atlanta, and Siegfried [he was my first servant overall, aside from the best eggplant kohai])
@@SeathThePawn nice
Ur so lucky mine was fucking siegfried and i was actually praying for Mordred
@@ksDawn7 at least you got the Dragon Slayer that defeated the God of Sun xD
@@tuocbuilucky draw
剣を地面に突き立て“我が名はモードレッド”って言うシーンが好きすぎる
襲撃してきたゴーレムとホムンクルスの混成部隊を獅子GOさんとタッグで蹴散らすところも良い
Her Noble Phatasm is an army breaker. Completely OP
Was so glad that when the Apocryoha event came in FGO it played her theme, now I can't wait for the rerun to get her costume
"If you dare to call me woman again I kill you!" *Death glare* still laughing when I remember that scene 😂
Mordred and Kairi got their wishes granted without a Holy Grail.
officially the most badass theme in all of fate with the exception of let the stars fall down
Fate Apocrypha personal favorites:
Mordred and her master
Achilles
Karna
Vlad
You're damn right Karna is on that list
Astolfo the reason people watch the anime😂
Where is ShakeSpear Ccom
Firdaus Yatim coomer
In her actual legend she or technically he was actually hesitant to even fight her/his kin and the reason camelot fall does not only fall on her shoulder but mostly on Lancelot and Guinevere, their forbidden love being the main reason Camelot fell
I was looking for this track. Love Mordred's theme :)
Held off from watching apocrypha for a few years now but this ost is whats finally gonna make me watch it, sounds awesome
Que bonito jugar FGO ahora con el rerun de apocrypha y escuchar estos temas mientras farmeas y haces las raids ,pura felicidad.
Weakness is a sin
I shall rise the ranks
I shall be the saint that will save you all
Weakness is a sin
The floors run red the Sky bath in blood
Are you proud of me now father?
this sends a thrill down my spine
The reason why I started watching Apocrypha 2 days ago, my first and last Fate anime.
Mordred is definitely my favorite servant in the entire fate series.I could even say she is best girl.
A lot of people hate her for her past where is brought an entire country almost to ruin and killed thousands of people because Arthuria/Arthur didnt give her the throne.But her past is one of the reasons why I love her,she has clearly flaws like everyone does,whether you like it or not as much as you love a character as a waifu or husbando they always have a flaw in them.
Perhaps her rampage could have been stopped and continue the life of a knight or who knows maybe the treacherous knight could be a very heroic knight.
And at last,this is the reason I love Mordred,she has weaknesses,strength and a very well written character.
Even then, considering her past, a lot of it is mostly caused by Arthur. Same argument can be done for Lancelot slaughtering like half of the Round Table. Sadly, instead of speaking her mind clearly when she had to, her silence just doomed everyone. But yeah, I figure the situation is somewhat on her too.
Thats why i loved her. I dont Know why but when People talking about how she killed many People, destroy everything, Caused the death of most knights of the round table, killing gawain (i guess) and many things that she did and i dont remember now makes me want to say cool or funny. And thats why camelot Singularity doesnt Make sense to me. She killed theme so how could they work together? If it was Just agravain it could Make sense but gawain? I dont think so
Maybe im wrong but this is what i think 😶
A little girl wanted to be recognized by her dad, a brave little girl.
This is why i love Mordred
Honestly Apoc's servant showing was pretty stacked
Mo is top tier, Achilles may be one note but is a total bro and bounces really well off Chiron, Karna is straight up my favorite fate servant and has one of the coolest legends of any heroic spirit imo.
This playing and the door to Semiramis opening was a great setup for a battle. 10/10.
played this while pulling for her and got her on my 34th pull,
this with my Mordred figurine did well as catalysts XD
Damn, opening the fridge for a glass of milk have never been so epic.
"She is my father" 0_0
sachiel wHy DoN‘t YoU aCcEpT mE aS yOuR sOn?? well..
I know the show wanted you to fall in love with Jeanne D'arc as the shows main heroine, but Mordred was that girl for me. It wasn't about a love story for her, but rather overcoming her past and acceptance. She is my favorite Saber in all of Fate. Artoria comes in 2nd for me followed by Miyamoto.
Me:"Oh look, another saberface as main character"
Fate/Apo: " _Jeanne is a saberface too I guess_ "
However imo Janne was good, but Mordred better, the problem was Sieg
Nobody like sieg so it's given
I wonder if they will sample this for her NP in FGO whenever she gets an animation update (because she will, I'm sure about this)
well, you were right about the animation update
Did she get this as her background music for it though? I'm too busy farming those raids to notice xD
HitsujiMamoru sadly no
Itai Sprachman: Too bad :/
Where do i get this game? Im from the UK and been searching for a fate grand order game but no luck can you guys give me the lowdown?
Best Girl has best theme
*Guy
You dare to address mordred as a girl?
*Knight
You dare to adress mordred as a guy?
@@lazex58 shes no king (yet) shes a KNIGHT you dare mock her lineage?
@@lazex58
rules to deal with mordred by shishigou:
do not treat her as a guy
do not treat her as a girl
do not praise artoria
do not disdain or mock artoria
also as shown in apochypha and grand order mordred dont care much if you call she or her as long you dont treat her in a girly manner...
@@lazex58 and... I AM THE RULE
*Golden one/goldy/gil/Hero king main theme blast over the horizon *
Definitely the best prince, badass and hot.
Mostly of the heroes on Apocrypha get their wishes granted, not in the way we want to see, by the grial and mostly of the people who complain about apocrypha didnt see that how sad :/
The anime have his mistake but it is a good anime :3
Whenever I see this guys I can't help but think that the faction of red was so overpowered but were so perfectly balanced by their legends
Mordred and Astolfo are easily my two favourite Fate servants.
By far the best Saber class servant Fate has ever created.
If this was available on iTunes, I would buy it in an instant.
just download it off a 3rd party site with the youtube link?
Nathan .Z there's a site where you can download it
Mordred and Arturia / Artoria / Saber are my two favorite characters, and more because they are based on my most favorite story, that of Ray Arturo (although it was very tragic)
Ost description: the best character presentation music ever!
every time I listen to this song I always think "medieval bar fight music"
Pretty much her fighting style in a nutshell, too
I’m sure Clarent Blood Arthur is from the original series, or referencing something from Mordred’s origin, but image if her NP was called something like “Camlann Kingbreaker”
I think it sounds a bit cooler
Clarent was the sword Arthur used for knighting folks
it was a symbol of ones loyalty to the King that Mordred turned into a symbol of rebellion and defiance
@@nikodemossowski4621 she killed arthur with it
KitsuneChaos18 yeah apparently the name is rebellion against my o wonderful father Arthur but they nicknamed it clarent blood Arthur
KitsuneChaos18 yeah apparently the name is rebellion against my o wonderful father Arthur but they nicknamed it clarent blood Arthur
@@skingsley3126 escalorpes los ploopese
🛡I really love -her- him🗡
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Say what people will about the story, but I love the music and the fight scenes.
Guys, am not gonna lie. I watched Fate Grand Order Babylonia first, then unlimited Blade works second. Am a grown ass dude but these guys sure know how to make a dude weep.
This anime does pull out the concept of bonds between people VERY VERY WELL.
The only other anime that made me weep was Shiki.
And from what i see in the comments section, looks like am going to cry again.
So lemme get this straight.. Atoria Pendragon/Saber of Unlimited Blade Works was the 'Father' of Mordred the current saber???
Oof. There's a bit of explaining to do here.
Yes, Artoria is Mordred's father. Artoria was made male briefly by Merlin so she could consummate her relationship with her wife/the queen, but then she was kidnapped and used to produce Mordred by Morgan, her sister.
But there is no "current" Saber. Fate/Stay Night, UBW, and Heaven's Feel are all in their own continuity. They are three different paths for the same story. Fate/Zero is the prequel to Stay Night, and sets up many events in Stay Night. Fate Grand/Order is an alternate timeline where only one Holy Grail War happens, and Apocrypha is also an alternate timeline.
*slight spoilers for Fate/Stay Night
I haven't seen all of Heaven's Feel so I can't fully explain this, but the reason the grail is corrupted in Stay Night and Fate/Zero is because in the third Holy Grail War, instead of summoning (I think) Berserker, the Einzberns "cheated" by summoning a different, eighth class. In the original Stay Night timeline, they summon Avenger, True Name Angra Mainu, who is representative of "all the evils in the world". He was actually the weakest servant to ever exist, which obviously lead to his and the Einzberns' defeat. The thing is, defeated servants are absorbed by the Grail, and so the Grail absorbed the embodiment of all the evils in the world and became corrupted.
*slight spoilers for Apocrypha if you haven't seen it*
Apocrypha is called "Apocrypha" because it starts from a scenario that doesn't happen in main storyline canon in which the Einzberns summon a Ruler instead of an Avenger. Thus, Amakusa Shirou is brought into the world. I don't know much else about the third Holy Grail War, so I don't know if the participants changed (I assume so, cuz the guy trying to become immortal in Apocrypha seemed to be too powerful to lose the war in any timeline he participated in), but yeah.
@@juangalvez2404 damn. I though Kiritsugu's death was a curse of Angra from Irisviel for rejecting her. Watched Apocrypha already. Watched Grand Order. It was the first thing i watched before i moved to Unlimited Blade WORKS.
Haven't watched heaven's feel. Seems like the same thing as UBW
@@montro-city9920 Oh, no, Kiritsugu's death was the curse of the Grail... but they don't really explain more than that. Also, the Grail was not Irisviel, it was Angra presenting himself as Irisviel. He cursed Kiritsugu for rejecting the ability to make a wish.
The Grand Order Babylonia anime is actually the second-to-last section (singularity) of the story for the Fate mobile game. I believe the first singularity was also made into an anime, but I don't know its name.
The Fate, UBW, and Heaven's Feel routes all involve the same characters and the same premise, but the stories diverge pretty radically. Like Shirou doesn't learn that Archer is him from the future in the Fate route, and the main love interest/focus is Saber in the Fate route. The antagonist at the end of UBW is Gilgamesh, but at the end of Fate, Kotomine and Ilya are both still alive to fight. The main love interest for Heaven's Feel is Sakura, and it's the most grim route of the three because you learn her backstory, as well as some other things. Suffice to say, they're all pretty different.
@@juangalvez2404 ok i'll do heaven's feel tonight
@@juangalvez2404 you were right. Heavens Feel is totally different. Watched the first movie yesterday. Rider is still around after being defeated with one hit in Unlimited Blade Works. Caster was wiped out. But GOD Caster was beautiful. We still don't know Rider's identity.
The first 20 seconds threw me back to when I played stronghold as a kid.
Mordred got an animation update, Vlad did, Atalanta did, give my precious Indian God one now damnit
he got one
@@JohnJohnson-ev9qn Oh trust me, I know. Funny enough, he got it the day after I wrote this lmfao
Mordred best Saber, best girl, best character on the series
Astolfo was best girl. Mordred 3rd best. 2nd best biological female
Mister Turk Turkle oh damn you fell for the trap..Astolfo is a guy
@@rseiko9411 still best girl
Celineke is crazy
Atalante is baby crazy.
Mordred tsundere
Jeanne too religious
Berzerker... no.
Semiramis is toxic.... literally.
Jack. Hell no.
Fiore is best biological female... but paralyzed.
Leaving only.... the _Trap_ of Argalia
Mister Turk Turkle you‘re absolutely right hahah but I kinda prefer Mordred but thats just my opinion
@@rseiko9411 no tsunderes for me thanks. Got enough of that from Akane Tendou and Asuka Soryu
I wish Mordred have more epic final battle like Sieg vs Karna when they go all out nuke each other.
"LOVE ME DADDY" ~Mordred in a nutshell
*MomDaddy
*Futa-daddy
„FUCK ME DADDY!”
You'd be surprised the hardship one can endurr sinply from being denied by their father
@@brandonwilliams3777 you'd be surprised by the harships one has to endure when he knows proper english spelling but still decides to read youtube comments
Mordred's theme sound is so good😱
Got mordred with one 10 shot using this ost as a catalyst Thank God ! (March 21, 2022)
Just Amazing
What fear must the opponents of Mordred have had? O-O
I love Mordred and I really feel bad for her.
but we can't forget the fact that she killed thousands of people and destroyed a whole country just because her female daddy didn't give her a big chair
I mean she was an emotionally manipulated 10 or so year old. it was more the straw that broke the camels back than anything. that's what makes a tragedy. something completely avoidable if only things had gone a little differently.
It was a nice chair you have to admit.
@@TGPDrunknHick An emotionally manipulated 10 year old who hero worshipped a father who denied relation to an illegitimate child at that...doubt Artoria intended for this but you can almost hear Mordred's dreams being shattered.
Well have you met the English? They had it coming. If only there was a Mordred around the time they colonised Ireland, they would have had a much harder time of achieving their plans for domination.
Had to keep her from going pro in the competitive scene. Haven't you seen what those really nice gamer chairs do to people?
this will be good if Artoria and Mordred will be summoned in The Great Holy Grail War
She was a great character, sad her role ended sooner
Very fitting of her character origins
Ahh Mordred. The knight died of treason in her first life remembered as treacherous knight but died second time as a loyal knight and no one knows it but us weeb.
I'm once again to show my luv to Mordred
Am glad I pulled her today in FGO -including a few other servants too-
Best Servant, Best Saber, and THE BEST KING! (Well, deserves to be one atleast)
Artoria was and is the only one worth to be called a king!
This post was made by the artoria is waifu gang
Sadly for you,Mor was a clone of Arturia and will die soon (about 6 or 7 yeahat least),that why Morgan have a spell that control Mordred dead body inside her.(morgan know Mordred will die soon)
Fun fact: When Artoria went to Rome to stop the war between the countries she left Mordred and Gawain to take care of the country, basically act as the king, it makes sense to leave Gawain because together with Bedi as Kay he is one of the knights who has been with Artoria from the beginning and one she can trust, but Mordred was an odd choice, specially after the revelation of her being her son/clone, and then she returned later and the rebellion had started, and they had just ended the war with Rome.
No.
Finally!!!
Mordred looks like the cheery fiery headed highschool crush that teases and bullies you a bit, but you'll always laugh it off with her
That would probably me Mordred's personality exactly if she was a master.
I wish this would play in the Fate Camelot movie but I doubt it.
Probably when fought against Mordred with her rampage.
This was made a long time ago I’m sad I’m only hearing it now for the first time
Mordred was like a damn wild animal, but strangely innocent and pure all the same.
She may have been hung up chasing King Arthur's shadow, but I liked that fragility of hers.
Why copy the comment from someone else?
Here comes the hot blooded Mordred the RED SABER
Saber of Red actualy
Bc, "Red Saber" is a Nero
Hooo hooo!! What a Big Soundtrack!! I Love Mordred
If you don't like Shishigou and Mordred, then remember that they have survived fcking kamikaze (being pilots)
Picked her with the SSR ticket today :)
Ab 1:37 einfach nur unglaublich Gänsehaut pur bis jetzt war Kenji Kawai der beste Komponist gewesen aber nachdem ich dieses Lied gehört habe bin ich wirklich hin und weg ❤️
Mordred 😍
One of the few things that Apocrypha did ok.
Thinking about it: Saber never showed off any extra flashy NPs like Achilles or Karna, but she did went to town with Astolfo, Fran and Siegfried back-to-back and only got some Armor chipped off after getting hit point blank by Frans NP in the third round.
Let me know if I should animate Mordred VS Saber 🎥
Mordred is such a good character, sometimes I didn’t like her especially when she was fighting against Sig, Astolfo and Frankenstein’s Monster
But yeah overall she’s great
"MY DAD FUCKING SUCKS BUT I DON'T HATE HER"-the theme
When you realize Artoria's Son never lost a battle in Apocrypha