yes this is the hymn 472 which always the funeral hymn when every siasi tonga tauataina/houeiki always choose when love ones pass away either durin 'apo,first hymn for malanga'i at the burial n also one or the first hymn use at church durin first week of mournin..but each church has they own twist to the hymn but still good,,,this hymn always gives me goose bumps when we sing..love it
@huikavapalangi ... thank you huikavapalangi... it's always polite to aknowledge 'ae kau Composer 'o ha hiva.. Fkmalo ki he Composer ko 'eni ne ne fa'u 'ae hiva malie ni, 'ikai ngata 'ene ngaue fklaumalie ki he kakai 'oe Siasi, ka 'oku toe lave mafana mai kia kimautolu he funga vaka kehekehe. 'Ofa atu pea fkfeta'i he ngaue lava kuo fai. thank you again huikavapalangi he share 'oe hiva ni.... 'ofa moe lotu..
To me doesn't matter pe koe himi 'a hai. What matters it speaks directly to my heart....'ofa atu kau hiva..I'm Uesiliana, but I love all siasi Tonga himi anyway..Peace.
@teachersrock1 this hymn speaks of how the world is the ocean, we are riding a boat through tough waves that may flips us over, watch out before you get to shore for as close to home you think you are, behold there are rough reefs in the shallows that threaten to tear the boat as we attempt to land ashore - Lets call the TRUE captain to guide our journey, the Almighty and Omnipotent LORD of lords that He is our Captain forever more!
Deep, tear provoking, amazing! One might have already summarized the message of the song. But is it okay if someone would briefly translate what the song is about. Splendid tenor sounds going on! and no instruments!
Is it matter pe koe himi 'a hai. What matters koe hiva fklangilangi'i 'oe 'Eiki. Malo kainga e ma'u le'o ke fklangilangi'i 'ae 'Eiki 'oku tau tui kiai. I'm born n raise Uesiliana, but I also love all christian musics. Malo kainga e ma'u le'o ke fklangilangi'i 'ae 'Eiki.. 'Ofa atu ki he kau tangata'eiki moe kau fine'eiki 'oku kei mamahi'i 'a e ngaahi mu'aki hiva..h
this song comes out of the SOT Hymn book... and to my knowledge I have never heard anyone call this hiva usu because it comes out of a hymn book ... I could be wrong...
its a hymn but it depends on the church that sings it-as some church in tonga'the tonga free church as well as tonga hou'the huahiva will choose the version to sing it n as most free tonga church hymn theres always a few version for each hymn n sum of these hymn will sound as if its a hiva usu-but its only cus of the people of that church will sing it wit they version as in most cases in tonga the old school version likely be the usu version or close to it so it's not usu but close.
Although this is considered hiva himi,it's still considered hiva usu because of the style it's being sung in.This is the original style of Tongan choral singing >this type of multiple harmonising would still be considered Hiva Usu. There are 5 Methodist denominations in Tonga.2 of them(Church of Tonga/Free and Chiefly)still preserve this form of singing Hiva Usu very well.The biggest Church(Wesleyan)more modern form of 4part harmony yet still sings USU on PoLotu(A Night of Singing Praises)
you are right about the Tongans using numbers for musical notes, and that is because when Palangi's brought hiva tu'unga fasi to Tonga the translation of how to say regular musical notes seem borderline cussing in Tongan so they changed it to numbers. Hiva Tu'unga fasi was brought from Palangis... Hiva Usu is an older form of Tongan singing and does not have musical notes per se, just a tune that is learned from the punake... thank u for the comment hope that clarifies things... ofaz
oh and polotu in Tongan means night of prayer...there is singin during these times but we have po hiva which means night of singing and during these times in the SOT hiva usu's are sung for hours, and are usually very good..... Songs that don't have musical notes and are learned the traditional way... just by following the lead of the punake, choir director or person who knows the tune or fasi... hope that helped...
i think this is only the hymn 472 of the Siasi Tonga Hou'eiki, because the other Siasi Tongas (Siasi Tonga Tau'ata'ina and Siasi Tonga Konisitutone) use the STT himi, we have our own himi in the SOT..... but i think the siasi Tongas all share fasi or tunes.....
Ha fua ho'o mou felau'aki!! Koe kakai kotoa pe kitaua 'ae Eiki, neongo pe koe ha 'ae Siasi pe koe Tokateline 'oku ke kau ki ai. Manatu'i: Church is nothing but a building with a church's name on it......and as far as the Himi....all that matters is the words that come from the himi and thats that!!
@TongaHou : oh sorry I was told and read that Dr. Moulton or how Tongans know him as Toketa Molitoni is the one who first used tuungafasi to teach the tunes of the Wesleyan hymns to Tongans because using the traditional western Doe Ray Me Fa, etc. was kind of offensive to Tongans because some of the words together say inapproriate Tongan words. This is what I was told, so I may be wrong but I don't mean to cause offense, Ofa atu in Christ. :)
@jameslotu Io oku ke mo'oni oku ikai fu'u mahu'inga fefe pe koe Himi a hai, he koe Himi pe ke fakalangilangi a ho tau 'Eiki. Koe fakamahino atu pe koe ki'i himi koe himi na'e fa'u ehe matu'a Siasi o Tonga a.k.a. Siasi Tonga Hou'eiki, oku ikai ko ha me'a ke fai ai ha polepole ka koe fiema'u pe e au ke fakamalo'ia ae kakai na'a nau si'i fa'u ae hiva, koe matu'a Siasi Tonga. Pea oku pau ke ilo ehe kainga koe matu'a ni na'a nau fa'u ke lava o fai ha fakamalo'i. Ofa atu ia Sisu. :)
this isn't what you would call hiva usu, it is hiva himi, it sounds like hiva usu but hiva usu is usually referred to as songs made up and written for vocals only and no instruments...
@huikavapalangi ACTUALLY. wrong again.. our King Tupou IV created th hiva tuungafasi. acknowledge those who put hard work into all of that!!!! -studies prove this as well.
yes this is the hymn 472 which always the funeral hymn when every siasi tonga tauataina/houeiki always choose when love ones pass away either durin 'apo,first hymn for malanga'i at the burial n also one or the first hymn use at church durin first week of mournin..but each church has they own twist to the hymn but still good,,,this hymn always gives me goose bumps when we sing..love it
@huikavapalangi ... thank you huikavapalangi... it's always polite to aknowledge 'ae kau Composer 'o ha hiva.. Fkmalo ki he Composer ko 'eni ne ne fa'u 'ae hiva malie ni, 'ikai ngata 'ene ngaue fklaumalie ki he kakai 'oe Siasi, ka 'oku toe lave mafana mai kia kimautolu he funga vaka kehekehe. 'Ofa atu pea fkfeta'i he ngaue lava kuo fai. thank you again huikavapalangi he share 'oe hiva ni.... 'ofa moe lotu..
kataki pe kau ki hao hake ai leva koe himi koena koe fa'u ia he tangata'eiki palesiteni pe 'ae siasi ko Rev Nafetalai Siola'a....
To me doesn't matter pe koe himi 'a hai. What matters it speaks directly to my heart....'ofa atu kau hiva..I'm Uesiliana, but I love all siasi Tonga himi anyway..Peace.
i like your singing thank you
@teachersrock1 this hymn speaks of how the world is the ocean, we are riding a boat through tough waves that may flips us over, watch out before you get to shore for as close to home you think you are, behold there are rough reefs in the shallows that threaten to tear the boat as we attempt to land ashore - Lets call the TRUE captain to guide our journey, the Almighty and Omnipotent LORD of lords that He is our Captain forever more!
Deep, tear provoking, amazing! One might have already summarized the message of the song. But is it okay if someone would briefly translate what the song is about. Splendid tenor sounds going on! and no instruments!
Is it matter pe koe himi 'a hai. What matters koe hiva fklangilangi'i 'oe 'Eiki. Malo kainga e ma'u le'o ke fklangilangi'i 'ae 'Eiki 'oku tau tui kiai. I'm born n raise Uesiliana, but I also love all christian musics. Malo kainga e ma'u le'o ke fklangilangi'i 'ae 'Eiki.. 'Ofa atu ki he kau tangata'eiki moe kau fine'eiki 'oku kei mamahi'i 'a e ngaahi mu'aki hiva..h
this song comes out of the SOT Hymn book... and to my knowledge I have never heard anyone call this hiva usu because it comes out of a hymn book ... I could be wrong...
Ko e laumalie o e Otua te ne taki kitaua ke ma'u 'a e FONUA .Fakafeta'i Sisu
malieee....i'm siasi tonga hou'eiki too =] i looove this himi but i never heard this fasi before =] niiiice....i'm bout to ako it ryt now lol
Malo faifekau Sami Fehoko Vea ae hiva malie kae pehe kihe toenga ae kau hiva ofa lahi atu kia tekimoutolu #S.T.H #1929.
malo hiva moe ngaahi lea
its a hymn but it depends on the church that sings it-as some church in tonga'the tonga free church as well as tonga hou'the huahiva will choose the version to sing it n as most free tonga church hymn theres always a few version for each hymn n sum of these hymn will sound as if its a hiva usu-but its only cus of the people of that church will sing it wit they version as in most cases in tonga the old school version likely be the usu version or close to it so it's not usu but close.
Although this is considered hiva himi,it's still considered hiva usu because of the style it's being sung in.This is the original style of Tongan choral singing >this type of multiple harmonising would still be considered Hiva Usu. There are 5 Methodist denominations in Tonga.2 of them(Church of Tonga/Free and Chiefly)still preserve this form of singing Hiva Usu very well.The biggest Church(Wesleyan)more modern form of 4part harmony yet still sings USU on PoLotu(A Night of Singing Praises)
@huikavapalangi EMENI. :)
you are right about the Tongans using numbers for musical notes, and that is because when Palangi's brought hiva tu'unga fasi to Tonga the translation of how to say regular musical notes seem borderline cussing in Tongan so they changed it to numbers. Hiva Tu'unga fasi was brought from Palangis... Hiva Usu is an older form of Tongan singing and does not have musical notes per se, just a tune that is learned from the punake... thank u for the comment hope that clarifies things... ofaz
oh and polotu in Tongan means night of prayer...there is singin during these times but we have po hiva which means night of singing and during these times in the SOT hiva usu's are sung for hours, and are usually very good..... Songs that don't have musical notes and are learned the traditional way... just by following the lead of the punake, choir director or person who knows the tune or fasi... hope that helped...
i think this is only the hymn 472 of the Siasi Tonga Hou'eiki, because the other Siasi Tongas (Siasi Tonga Tau'ata'ina and Siasi Tonga Konisitutone) use the STT himi, we have our own himi in the SOT..... but i think the siasi Tongas all share fasi or tunes.....
I think some tunes might be the same as the STT but our hymns are different.... well God Bless anyways... Ofaz...
What is the lyrics for the whole song
Anyone know the lyrics for the tau on this himi??
Ha fua ho'o mou felau'aki!!
Koe kakai kotoa pe kitaua 'ae Eiki, neongo pe koe ha 'ae Siasi pe koe Tokateline 'oku ke kau ki ai.
Manatu'i: Church is nothing but a building with a church's name on it......and as far as the Himi....all that matters is the words that come from the himi and thats that!!
this cant be a siasi tonga tauataina himi as we dont have a himi 472........
This is not a siasi tonga tauataina himi, this is a himi from the Siasi Tonga Hou'eiki, we have our own tohi Himi.
@TongaHou : oh sorry I was told and read that Dr. Moulton or how Tongans know him as Toketa Molitoni is the one who first used tuungafasi to teach the tunes of the Wesleyan hymns to Tongans because using the traditional western Doe Ray Me Fa, etc. was kind of offensive to Tongans because some of the words together say inapproriate Tongan words. This is what I was told, so I may be wrong but I don't mean to cause offense, Ofa atu in Christ. :)
@jameslotu Io oku ke mo'oni oku ikai fu'u mahu'inga fefe pe koe Himi a hai, he koe Himi pe ke fakalangilangi a ho tau 'Eiki. Koe fakamahino atu pe koe ki'i himi koe himi na'e fa'u ehe matu'a Siasi o Tonga a.k.a. Siasi Tonga Hou'eiki, oku ikai ko ha me'a ke fai ai ha polepole ka koe fiema'u pe e au ke fakamalo'ia ae kakai na'a nau si'i fa'u ae hiva, koe matu'a Siasi Tonga. Pea oku pau ke ilo ehe kainga koe matu'a ni na'a nau fa'u ke lava o fai ha fakamalo'i. Ofa atu ia Sisu. :)
which church is dis?
this isn't what you would call hiva usu, it is hiva himi, it sounds like hiva usu but hiva usu is usually referred to as songs made up and written for vocals only and no instruments...
Kataki fakamolemole, Koe himi eni ia oe Siasi o Tonga, also known as Siasi Tonga Hou'eiki. Ko emau himi amautolu oku ngata ia he valu ngeau tupu. Ofaz
@huikavapalangi ACTUALLY. wrong again.. our King Tupou IV created th hiva tuungafasi. acknowledge those who put hard work into all of that!!!! -studies prove this as well.