I’ve been living a FIRE lifestyle and goals for about 10 years alone (ie, not following the community in any way). Suddenly I see this video and realize how much I’ve lost by not utilizing ideas from others (or sharing my own) - it’s amazing how FIRE is such an independent journey but we can share so much by communicating. Thank you for this video, it really spoke to me!
This is imo one of the best videos not only on your chanel but generally within the whole FI topic i have found so far. There are so many balanced insights from diversifying portfolio, feeling fulfilled in life, the necessity to being able to adapt to asset performance as well as smart directions on how to approach spend and pleasure in a way which might contribute not deteriorate the financial stance. Its a pity you have not shown any of the data you were referring even though the episode is > 1hrs long.
Great stuff. I always love it when someone challenges the 4% rule and the "conventional" thinking of the FIRE movement. It's what I try to talk about on my channel too. There are a lot of different ways to FIRE and they are all great. I think the biggest problem with the FIRE movement is trying to make it look too easy, and people trying to do it too soon. They will be in trouble later in life and this no bueno.
This is now my favorite episode. The only disagreement I had was actually with Scott’s assessment of housing pricing. First, even for stocks I still look back at 2019 pricing because of the hyper inflated prices the last few years. Also, the other factor is the median income of an area and available units. Investors have been using housing as an inflation hedge and not setting at a fair market price if you include owner occupants. So housing prices are over priced and more inflated then just inflation factors.
Always love seeing Brandon! Very timely for me. We r in the beginning stages of fi and spending more than usual this year on a 1,000 room renovation (floor) for my kids room and some family vacations. Hard for me to feel good about spending the money but I’m trying to remember that the memory dividends are what are important 😅
As a Canadian, I find a lot of Americans focus almost entirely on investing in the US market. I think global diversification is important. For example, I use an asset allocation ETF where the holdings are based 1/3 each In Canada (my home country), the US, and the rest of the world. Maybe an America can justify a 50/50 split, but I think that international representation is a plus to diversify the returns and mitigate risk.
Yeah, I think the one thing I kinda regret passing on is going to jitsu nationals with my club back at uni but that mostly because my current place (mived countries) diesnt have those nationals.
I would say to crunch the numbers. Find out what your FI number is. Does paying off all of your debt make sense before investing? It depends. If you have credit card debt at 20% APR then absolutely pay that sucker off but if you have a mortgage at under 3%, I wouldn't rush to pay that off. Ultimately it depends on you and your lifestyle. Even Mindy and her husband still have mortgage debt on their rentals and they are not rushing to pay it off. They are leveraging "good debt" to build wealth. Everyone's situation can and will be different
Agreed, crunch those numbers. First port of call after that is to reduce your spending/expenditures as much as possible, without being overly drastic. Those two steps are very important and will lay a good foundation for your journey to F.I.
I think its great to get out of the full time grind earlier so that you can really start building and living your retired life to the max (not that you can't do many important things while still working). Flexibility is key. We're early 30s and halfway to our number. I'm hoping to grind out another 2 years or so and then work short term/project based gigs only while compounding takes care of things. If the market tanks I can always work more, but the important part is getting out of the whole rat race of 2k hours per year which is totally unhealthy and unbalanced imo. 4 weeks of vacation is work/life balance? Yeah right
Why on earth would someone go through all of the time and effort to amass one million dollars just to earn the privilege of constantly worrying about market downturns and if it will last the rest of their lives when they can invest in a basket of solid stocks that all pay dividends?! If the dividend portfolio yields 6% (a very realistic assumption) then one million would give you sixty thousand dollars in dividends annually. And you would never have to touch the principal.
@@vulpixelful You are correct. But tax is a fraction of the dollar. And that is the price to pay for your freedom. In the USA a money you don't pay tax on is not spendable. Dividend stocks allow you to generate dividend income while your money is invested in these individual dividend stocks and continue to appreciate in value. You generate income from these dividends and don't worry about selling your stocks when the market is down. And of course these dividends are taxable if you invest in your brokerage taxable account even if they are reinvested. Yes some investors don't like dividend stocks because of they are taxable. Investing in growth stocks that do not pay dividends could be compared to holding on to a real estate and not renting it out for rental income in the meantime. Some people might worry about tax because of the wealth they accumulated but to many others, trying to minimizing their taxes could hinder their abilities to make more money.
@@vulpixelful Qualified dividends (the vast majority of stocks) are currently treated the same as Long-term capital gains. REIT dividends are taxed as income, however
@@Ricky--Bobby I am not sure I understood your question. When it comes to choosing dividend stocks, I like to set a minimum dividend I would not go under. then the company should have gone public before 2000. The maximum chart from when the company went public to now should show upward growth. Then when the current stock price is close to its 52 weeks low, it is the time to purchase some shares. For upward growth stocks I can accept 3%+ annual dividend. For stocks that has growth and dip type of chart, I expect higher dividend rate but the chart should still show growth meaning the dip in the chart should not go as low as the original price when the company first went public. You want dividend income but you still want your investment to build equity overtime. To answer your question but it just my personal opinion: IBM, UPS, and O all have upward growth and both IBM and O pay 4%+ annual dividend. UPS pays around 3%+. All 3 went public by 2000. I would say all are good to invest in long-term. And they are in different sectors thus diversifying your portfolio.
Id love to see a money podcast that lays out typical costs of children. I feel like im ready to FIRE but am scared that my children will really increase my expenses once they get older. Kids are under 3 right now and im concerned once they start school and extra curriculars that it will really increase our expenses to a point that Im withdrawing much more then planned.
I know Lucy, she is a CFP and I first saw her on the BBC talking about the crypto and real estate. And I just had to look her upon the WEB. I’ve made real good money since.
49:05 hogwash. Judgement is necessary. Keeps people good and honest. Mr. Money Mustache has spent a decade taunting truck owners and gas guzzlers in the name of environmentalism. His Tesla choice has hypocritical environmental and humanitarian consequences and he should be judged. Judged by his own standard.
I always appreciate analysis... But this guy took an unbelievably complex way to overcomplicate the 4% rule. There are better, simpler withdrawal strategies.
The lady talks WAYYYY too much. The guy host scott actually has good points and is logical. The lady is incessant with her ridiculous talk. Please talk less and let scott and the mad fientist talk more
Saying that housing is not more expensive if inflation is factored in shows how uneducated you are in terms of housing costs. I live in the Bay Area and the housing here has overwhelmingly gone above inflation. It’s not only the Bay Area. Crazy how you run a podcast about finance and you say something so silly
My favorite finance channels: Bigger pockets money, Mondays: Earn your leisure market Mondays Tuesdays: Wallstreet looks like us now network, Reppond Investments Wednesday: Reppond investments Also, melanin money podcast and peter Schiff show, wealthion, Joseph Carlson For crypto: Ivan on tech, crypto banter, cryptosrus Make my week complete!
I’ve been living a FIRE lifestyle and goals for about 10 years alone (ie, not following the community in any way). Suddenly I see this video and realize how much I’ve lost by not utilizing ideas from others (or sharing my own) - it’s amazing how FIRE is such an independent journey but we can share so much by communicating. Thank you for this video, it really spoke to me!
Working by choice is liberating.
This is imo one of the best videos not only on your chanel but generally within the whole FI topic i have found so far. There are so many balanced insights from diversifying portfolio, feeling fulfilled in life, the necessity to being able to adapt to asset performance as well as smart directions on how to approach spend and pleasure in a way which might contribute not deteriorate the financial stance. Its a pity you have not shown any of the data you were referring even though the episode is > 1hrs long.
Great stuff. I always love it when someone challenges the 4% rule and the "conventional" thinking of the FIRE movement. It's what I try to talk about on my channel too. There are a lot of different ways to FIRE and they are all great. I think the biggest problem with the FIRE movement is trying to make it look too easy, and people trying to do it too soon. They will be in trouble later in life and this no bueno.
what do you mean people trying to do it too soon ....what should be average age then ?
Mindy you look great! I also love your bubbly personality. You are so nice to every guest. You and Scott both do a great job! Keep up the great work!
Um....no
I love Brandon! He’s my inspiration. Thank you for having him back on. ❤
Some of the clearest and most practical examples and advice the FI community
This is now my favorite episode. The only disagreement I had was actually with Scott’s assessment of housing pricing. First, even for stocks I still look back at 2019 pricing because of the hyper inflated prices the last few years.
Also, the other factor is the median income of an area and available units.
Investors have been using housing as an inflation hedge and not setting at a fair market price if you include owner occupants. So housing prices are over priced and more inflated then just inflation factors.
Always love seeing Brandon! Very timely for me. We r in the beginning stages of fi and spending more than usual this year on a 1,000 room renovation (floor) for my kids room and some family vacations. Hard for me to feel good about spending the money but I’m trying to remember that the memory dividends are what are important 😅
Has anyone any sense about how the cost of travel is gonna change (or not change) in the future?
6 minutes in and Brandon still hasn't appeared
Why do these type of shows take so long with their intros?
Because they know there are people who are tuning just to hear Brandon. They want to ensure everyone hears the other stuff, too.
It's called House Keeping.
Any book recommendations on how to manage the portfolio? 60/40 bonds index funds ok... But there is more then one index fund out there.
Try the Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins!
As a Canadian, I find a lot of Americans focus almost entirely on investing in the US market. I think global diversification is important. For example, I use an asset allocation ETF where the holdings are based 1/3 each In Canada (my home country), the US, and the rest of the world. Maybe an America can justify a 50/50 split, but I think that international representation is a plus to diversify the returns and mitigate risk.
Yeah, I think the one thing I kinda regret passing on is going to jitsu nationals with my club back at uni but that mostly because my current place (mived countries) diesnt have those nationals.
I like the 5% with 40% discretionary balance, that could work well 👍 great video, really thought provoking
If you are new to the “fire” movement where would you begin?
@@evasanz3466 thank you.
I would say to crunch the numbers. Find out what your FI number is. Does paying off all of your debt make sense before investing? It depends. If you have credit card debt at 20% APR then absolutely pay that sucker off but if you have a mortgage at under 3%, I wouldn't rush to pay that off. Ultimately it depends on you and your lifestyle. Even Mindy and her husband still have mortgage debt on their rentals and they are not rushing to pay it off. They are leveraging "good debt" to build wealth. Everyone's situation can and will be different
Evaluate Food Transportation and shelter see where you can trim some fat
Agreed, crunch those numbers. First port of call after that is to reduce your spending/expenditures as much as possible, without being overly drastic.
Those two steps are very important and will lay a good foundation for your journey to F.I.
I think its great to get out of the full time grind earlier so that you can really start building and living your retired life to the max (not that you can't do many important things while still working). Flexibility is key.
We're early 30s and halfway to our number. I'm hoping to grind out another 2 years or so and then work short term/project based gigs only while compounding takes care of things. If the market tanks I can always work more, but the important part is getting out of the whole rat race of 2k hours per year which is totally unhealthy and unbalanced imo. 4 weeks of vacation is work/life balance? Yeah right
I hear you brother
Innovative!
Why on earth would someone go through all of the time and effort to amass one million dollars just to earn the privilege of constantly worrying about market downturns and if it will last the rest of their lives when they can invest in a basket of solid stocks that all pay dividends?! If the dividend portfolio yields 6% (a very realistic assumption) then one million would give you sixty thousand dollars in dividends annually. And you would never have to touch the principal.
Good point.
@@vulpixelful You are correct. But tax is a fraction of the dollar. And that is the price to pay for your freedom. In the USA a money you don't pay tax on is not spendable. Dividend stocks allow you to generate dividend income while your money is invested in these individual dividend stocks and continue to appreciate in value. You generate income from these dividends and don't worry about selling your stocks when the market is down. And of course these dividends are taxable if you invest in your brokerage taxable account even if they are reinvested. Yes some investors don't like dividend stocks because of they are taxable.
Investing in growth stocks that do not pay dividends could be compared to holding on to a real estate and not renting it out for rental income in the meantime.
Some people might worry about tax because of the wealth they accumulated but to many others, trying to minimizing their taxes could hinder their abilities to make more money.
@@vulpixelful Qualified dividends (the vast majority of stocks) are currently treated the same as Long-term capital gains. REIT dividends are taxed as income, however
Which long term stocks IBM, UPS, O,?
@@Ricky--Bobby I am not sure I understood your question. When it comes to choosing dividend stocks, I like to set a minimum dividend I would not go under. then the company should have gone public before 2000. The maximum chart from when the company went public to now should show upward growth. Then when the current stock price is close to its 52 weeks low, it is the time to purchase some shares. For upward growth stocks I can accept 3%+ annual dividend. For stocks that has growth and dip type of chart, I expect higher dividend rate but the chart should still show growth meaning the dip in the chart should not go as low as the original price when the company first went public. You want dividend income but you still want your investment to build equity overtime.
To answer your question but it just my personal opinion: IBM, UPS, and O all have upward growth and both IBM and O pay 4%+ annual dividend. UPS pays around 3%+. All 3 went public by 2000. I would say all are good to invest in long-term. And they are in different sectors thus diversifying your portfolio.
Id love to see a money podcast that lays out typical costs of children. I feel like im ready to FIRE but am scared that my children will really increase my expenses once they get older. Kids are under 3 right now and im concerned once they start school and extra curriculars that it will really increase our expenses to a point that Im withdrawing much more then planned.
24:30 travel is DEFINITELY NOT faster. Concorde is gone, long waits at the airports, TSA etc.. We travel slower than in the 70s and 80s for sure
New outro!
It works only for high income earners
Having an investment adviser is the best way to go about the market right now especially for near retirees
People downplay planner’s role, until they are burnt by their mistakes. That’s why I’ve been working with expert planners like LUCY ROSE CARTER
I know Lucy, she is a CFP and I first saw her on the BBC talking about the crypto and real estate. And I just had to look her upon the WEB. I’ve made real good money since.
Is it possible to get in contact with someone like that?
LUCY ROSE CARTER
GOOGLE the name
I wonder where she gets her analysis from. I’m very impressed with her resume
49:05 hogwash. Judgement is necessary. Keeps people good and honest. Mr. Money Mustache has spent a decade taunting truck owners and gas guzzlers in the name of environmentalism. His Tesla choice has hypocritical environmental and humanitarian consequences and he should be judged. Judged by his own standard.
Where is best place to park 1 million
Any solution as to where to park 1m
In my bank account 😂
Depends on time frame- less than 3 years T Bills; 3-5 years 60%/40%; more than 5 years 80/20; more than 10 years 100% stocks
Who is Mindy?
Retirement but he does a podcast, writes books. Sounds like he is self employed but not retired.
There’s a huge difference between having to work and choosing to work.
@@Dont_Call_It_Hybrid yes but if I have to work anyway then I’d rather keep my corporate job that pays much better.
I always appreciate analysis... But this guy took an unbelievably complex way to overcomplicate the 4% rule. There are better, simpler withdrawal strategies.
The lady talks WAYYYY too much.
The guy host scott actually has good points and is logical.
The lady is incessant with her ridiculous talk. Please talk less and let scott and the mad fientist talk more
I think Scott and Mindy make the perfect team. Scott is numbers and logic and Mindy brings the much needed yin to Scott's yang.
Please find ways to give feedback in a polite way, thanks. And I love Mindy. She’s bubbly. The reason why some of us keep coming back
Not in any connection with the title. Total waste of time!
Saying that housing is not more expensive if inflation is factored in shows how uneducated you are in terms of housing costs. I live in the Bay Area and the housing here has overwhelmingly gone above inflation. It’s not only the Bay Area. Crazy how you run a podcast about finance and you say something so silly
My favorite finance channels:
Bigger pockets money,
Mondays: Earn your leisure market Mondays
Tuesdays: Wallstreet looks like us now network, Reppond Investments
Wednesday: Reppond investments
Also, melanin money podcast and peter Schiff show, wealthion, Joseph Carlson
For crypto: Ivan on tech, crypto banter, cryptosrus
Make my week complete!