Why Kareem And Wilt HATED Each Other
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Kareem hanging around in Wilt Chamberlain's jazz bar in the early 60s needs to be a movie or series.
Crazy how everything is happening the same😂. Nowadays oldheads say that NBA is soft now and here we can clearly see that Wilt is calling out the softened competition for Jabbar lmao. Some things never change.
reason i said a few years ago that when WE grow old, we'll do the same thing those old heads ex-players and fans are doing.
And it is ALREADY starting. Look at how we trashed ASG now, same with the SOFTER & more SENSITIVE officiating.
I was thinking the exact same thing
Right. I saw wilt say the 90s was soft and he’d average 70 and this is the first thing I thought. People can’t appreciate nothing just criticize the “new era” or the past
Would've ❤️ for Kareem Abdul jabber to played against David Robinson one year apart saying about Shaq O'Neal it wouldn't be fair to Kareem Abdul jabber too old
@@august6281 spot on. I’m gonna go berserk when someone says curry played in a weak era
Did not expect Pat Riley to pop up in this 😂yoooo he’s got like the best life . Played with Wilt & Jerry West vs Kareem , Coached Magic Johnson & Kareem ( if I’m not mistaken ) , Coached Shaq & Dwade , formed The Lebron Big 4 , Unleased Playoff Jimmy & Drafted Bam . Like he don’t miss
Don't forget his college career. He played for Adolf Rupp at Kentucky who lost one of the biggest upset in NCAA tournament history. The mighty Kentucky lost to the University of Texas-El Paso who was the first college team to have five black starters. They made a movie about it.
Well, the lebron one is a debatable miss..
Same here! I tend to forget Pat Riley, who played with Kareem and later coached him, and the Lakers began their 80's run! Note that there were no criticisms about Pat Riley from Kareem when Riley was promoted to head coach. Kareem just fell in line. Had someone who played with LeBron James been promoted to coach him, they would probably be one of the many coaches fired under LeBron's watch.
@@seanswinton6242 are you just going to ignore that magic got Paul westhead fired in order for pat Riley to become head coach? But you had to take a gratuitous shot at lebron for doing it even though the subject had absolutely nothing to do with lebron.
I remember that era in basketball quite well. That's when centers were centers! Not long after they met, Wilt became somewhat of a teacher and role model to Kareem. And when Kareem got older, developing his game to a much higher level, he became Kareem's teacher on the court. Wilt didn't like that at all!
That Wilt spit-rain joke was crazy 💀
Yeah, that's a lame fan thing to say, but Wilt should have had something bettet than that...maybe the other guy was an asshole, maybe Wilt had a bad day
Yeah, that was really rough. 💀
I’m a idiot bc I thought the story went Kareem spat on the guy but it makes much more sense now 😂😂
That's cold. But lmao.
I ain’t gon lie it’s funny asf lmao
Kareem’s storyline reads like a sports video game plot !!😂
Dude you're spot on with that
😂
They were the two greatest centers ever to play the game. One loved the spotlight and wanted everyone to know exactly how great he was (Wilt) and the other was far more reserved and would rather focus on the game than getting any attention (Kareem). They were basically polar opposites.
While this is true, very few had anything bad to say about Wilt. Plenty of people had something bad to say about Kareem. He was a notorious jerk. Bottom line, if you choose a side against Kareem, you're probably on the correct side. I'm going with Wilt.
Kareem yes...would take at least 2 centers over wilt
@@cuthbertallgood7781IN PUBLIC AND NOT IN FRONT OF A CAMERA KAREEM WAS A JACKASS.. . MET HIM IN A HARLEM BOOKSTORE, PUT MY HAND OUT TO SHAKE HIS ... HE SAYS TO ME➡ "I DONT DO HANDSHAKES"..... THATS OK CAUSE I'M QUICK. I GOT BACK AT HIM BY SAYING ➡ YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE AND YOU'LL NEVER BE EQUAL TO WILT" .. HE THEN LOOKS ANGRILY AT ME.... GTFOH❗
Those back to back titles won by the 71 Bucks and 72 Lakers were two of the greatest teams in history. Amazing that they were in the league at the same time.Besides having the two guys who are generally considered the two greatest centers in history . It had up to that time, the two greatest point guards in history in Jerry West and Oscar Robertson. Great time to be a fan.
As Kareem quoted, "I never hated Wilt, just his politics."
Wilt hated Kareem because he just wanted to be the best after being overshadowed by Bill Russell's success.
Secret Base made a Beef History video about the two.
Kareems political views aren't exactly the best
@@arizonaFIREentwhy? What are they?
I wonder how Wilt felt about Jordan or how he would have?
@@willywonka7812 one is extreme left one is extreme right
@@arizonaFIREent You're telling me that Wilt supporting Reagan and Republicans was a better political view than Kareems civil rights politics?
Wilt loved the bunnies
Pretty 👩 woman
Who doesn't? lol
Can you blame him?
So, do I.
Wilt had more scoring moves to use of woman than his fancy low 📫 post scoring points moves to his on legendary great big men in the nba, history wilt wrote the 📚 book how to score with woman
So basically this whole beef started cause Wilt's ego was struck due to Kareem breaking his record & Wilt wanted the recognition of being better than Kareem
maybe more that wilt had plenty of records but wasnt praised once the way Kareem was when he broke the point-record.
Wilt still got 100 points game record, 50 points average, 55 rebounds wilt still in his nba record book casket
Wilt had Willis reed& ny Knicks as a rival too, wilt wasn't early 1960s wilt, early 1960s wilt would've score 50s points playing against Willis reed , early 1960s wilt would've ateup Willis reed & ny Knicks, oldie& knee surgery kneewilt lost to Willis reed & ny Knicks in 1970& 1973 nba final
@@troychriscarretas2657 it like comparing Larry bird against magic 🎩 johnson , magic johnson had more nba championships & longer career than Larry bird: wilt was a college & NBA basketball pioneer
spitting on some random guy what an ahole!
I dont think Wilt ever hated Kareem. Kareem had his issues with Wilt and given the cirumstance of the time, probably justifiably so, but I don't think it rose to level of hate. They didnt like each other, but hate is a strong word that I dont believe applies.
Politics of the times mandated beef. I agree.
It's hard to think of Kareem as hating someone he admired as a kid. Sure, they were philosophically opposed but Kareem also is a man of high charachter. I know he has regrets and that the sign of a man who can change.
Also as they got older they mellowed out. And as understandable as it was, Kareem was a loose cannon. He was infamous for punching other players, even after he went to Lakers. Granted some were justifiable reaction, but still.
@@stevequantie8064 Kareem most likely didn’t hate him especially since he did treat him well and helped him as a teen but he most likely didn’t love him either
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I think it's because Kareem was more humble and had less of an ego
Jabber had an ego
@@user-iv9er3nr6z "jabber" had less of an ego
@@lookethedukestill a big ego and he’s always salty
Kareem has also said the exact same thing wilt said but in a different way. He said something along the lines of "well that's one record I'll never have to worry about".
Wilt 100 points game, 50 points game average, 55 rebound records etc etc
It's news to me that Kareem had so much good things to say about Wilt (for one, I didn't know that most of the women Wilt was with that Kareem met weren't after the money and were genuinely charmed by his rizz) before their relationship got sour. Wilt is gone years ago but I do hope despite his grievances, Kareem has already forgiven him deep down.
Kareem also had a lot of bad stuff to say about Wilt
Kareem probably felt hurt that someone who he had that rapport with would be so petty with his ego. Harder for a shy person to connect with someone like that, and like finding out your role model is an asshole (confirmed by Nixon shit)
Kareem is a worthy legend. I feel honored that i grew up and could see his games live on tv. Bummed that i never got a chance to see him playing in person 😔
I did, and the Lakers were 5x as fast in person as they were on television.
Wilt holding is own at the end of his career says a lot to how great he was.
One of the few athletes to ball out till the end 💪🏾💪🏾
Yeah, led the league in rebounds his last 3 years.
Chamberlain was the greatest and most dominant player of all time. He played against the best center competition ever one else comes close. He was a track star at Kansas and played professional volleyball. No other player has ever done that.
These guys had a SERIOUS beef that lasted for a couple of decades. I'm glad that they could bury the hatchet before Wilt's untimely death.
I think part of it was generational difference. Chamberlain came of age during a more conservative era; Kareem came of age during the Sixties in a time of national turmoil. When Wilt backed Nixon in 1968 and again in 1972, that was the last straw for Kareem, who was borderline Socialist at that time. And this isn't to even touch on their on-court rivalry. Wilt might have enjoyed a few years on top after Bill Russell retired- but here came Kareem.
Yeah Nixon was hated in a way people hate Trump now, although they couldn't deny his intelligence so his perceived errors were devious rather than foolish.
That fucking advertisement segment was gold buddy. I hope your proud of yourself
At 0:12 how wilt tries to look taller than kareem😂
You have an active imagination.
Hes just sitting up straight theyre the same height
@@kingkayfabe5358 Kareem is a tiny bit taller than Wilt. Because he has a bigger head than Wilt.
@@leoleoleo688right wilt was a smidge over 7’1 Kareem at peak was 7’1 7/8 a hair under 7’2.
One of the greatest rivalries in the 70s 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Oldie/ knee surgery wilt against young prime time Kareem Abdul jabber
This is the GOAT voice of Nonstop
Sounds very monotone. I'm thinking AI or someone without much voice acting experience.
People that think Nonstop is goated👇
Just want to ask...if it went well for you and tons of people press Like on your comment.......then what? I completely understand someone dropping their opinion in a quick comment after watching....but I don't understand comments that bait for likes, clearly with a desire to get as many likes as possible I don't get how that's of any benefit to the person who posted it. Am I missing something or?
@@bishyeahbish3758stfu and like bro comment
@@bishyeahbish3758 Not really, bait comments is for the fun of how many like ur gonna get.
To some of us it's a desperate attempt.
@@bishyeahbish3758 I’m sorry if I make you upset but I’m him and I get easy likes and comments and you need to stop yapping and I’d like to see you try
I never heard wilt voice before that’s a 1st and congrats on 900k Nonstop
Hows the weather up there?
Its raining 🌧️💧🤤💦
Im sorry, but that's some funny shit there
😆
Yes indeed lol
actually it's really trashy behavior, lacks class. even if you feel insulted you don't need to act like that, and in modern era, spitting on someone is considered assault criminal behavior
I doubt you would find it funny if someone spit in your face?
I didn’t know myself that I was a big fan already. I been watching your videos for 2 years already I just enjoying your Trivia & Story about NBA and here I am watching your new upload today, Thank you!
Wilt is my personal GOAT and this video was really cool and interesting, thank you!
Wilt was apparently not as humble as Kareem but his abilities as an athlete and his legacy in general will always be fascinating to me
I believe Wilt would've destroyed Lebron. He was a great scorer. I am a Jordan and Kobe fan. But I have great respect for Wilt as a player. They are my favorite 3 players
Kobe himself said it was him, Mike & wilt
@@wendellfarao8094I’m not a Lebron fan but no way is Wilt destroying Lebron. It’s a different era. Wilt’s era had less skilled players. He was great for his era but in modern day ball……no.
@@businessk3014 When it comes to the highest scorers they truly are head and shoulders above the rest 💯
@@christophercox936 I respectfully disagree
Ahhhh!... The memories. I was 12 years old and a fanatic Mets fan.
My brother and friends and i went to many quite a few Mets games during the season via the train, not knowing what would be the culmination of that year!
What a fun year!
Thank you, New York Mets! ⚾️
13:54 It's funny how most of Kareem's criticisms of Wilt flow naturally even if you replace 'Wilt' with 'LeBron'.
I noticed that as well, especially the part when Kareem mentioned how Wilt quitting college early because the game got tough! LeBron does the same thing!
What is that goofy ass emoji 💀
The Kareem vs Wilt rivalry was just 2 champion gladiators competiting at the highest level of their sport. Not much different than the Magic vs Bird rivalry....or the Ali vs Frazier...etc.
4:05 LOL THAT IS SO FUNNY
Yeah😂
No. It's not.
Really interesting. Nonstop makes me more knowledgeable about basketball...
Jabbar was the better player, Wilt was awesome but he never bought into the team concept, he thought he could win all by himself. Jabbar was a better teammate.
Wilt was on the 2 winningest teams ever before expansion in the late 80s. Better than any Celtic or other Lakers team. He led the league in assists in 1967. Wilt became a role player late in his career, rarely shooting and becoming the most efficient player in NBa history by shooting 72.4% from the floor; still holding the record for shooting percentage today. Wilt's worst rebounding year was 18.6 boards; Kareem never came close to that!
Kareem at 8:48, "This time, I turned around and faced the basket, and that made him play more honestly. I never did that before." . . . or since
11:38 it's interesting that Kareem drew the line early on politics. You have to remember that Richard Nixon was one of the most popular presidents up until Watergate happened.
If you look at his popularity and approval polls from 1969 - 73 you'll find out that Richard Nixon was one of the most popular presidents. He won his election and especially his re-election by Landslide margins both in the popular vote and electoral college.
But if you knew anything about politics, economics, and world history, Nixon was clearly a vile demon who worked for the rich
The most popular president of all time. Bar none. Until the deep state decided he had to go & they installed the only unelected POTUS in our history.
he also won in 1960....chicago mafia stole Illinois in 1960, heck they may have stolen other states too
Not everyone is easily duped by the lies of politicians
@@joshchambers5163 and not everyone is so politically illiterate that they believe right wing politics serve any but the rich
Wilt have always the no.1 Center until Kareem came and start to dethrone.. I think Wilt could smell that..
I think Kareeem is the GOAT of basketball and I didn't know much about the Kareem-Wilt beef but your videos is good as always
Your name is nfl guy. I think I’ll wait for the nba guy before I start listening to goat talk
@@HiMtnSage 6 MVP (most of all time) and 6 times NBA champion 2nd all time in points all time 3rd all time in rebounding and 3rd all time in blocks (didn't counted in his early days) and he play until he was 42 years old and defeated the bad boys in 1988 when he was 41 Do you have anything who can beat him
@@HiMtnSage He's the Goat tho. That's why wilt is jealous
@@NFLguy1323 im not gonna have a facts sheet war. Or tell my personal opinions. Im not even here to change your mind. . I just wanted to throw flak at you mr nfl. For your name. Gosh
@@HiMtnSage sorry nice joke by the way i'm multi sport guy
1:36 is wilddd😭😭💀💀
lol
5:17 their facial hair combines for a full beard
They truly were opposites in every way, lol.
4:10 "Oh my god" 🤣😂🤣
It's Raining! LOL 🤣🤣 Ask dumb questions then deal with the results
Their beards complete each other
The two greatest big men in NBA history didn't hate each other. Kareem was hanging out with Wilt before he got into the NBA. He was like Wilt's little brother. When Kareem got into the league, the relationship changed because it became more competitive. They were going at each other, and the young Kareem was getting the better of him. They always had great respect for each other.
That was always my take on it.
I love how there beards are reversed in the thumbnail 😂😂😂
They definitely didn’t hate each other they both complimented each other all the time. They had a Jordan/Kobe relationship.
Two legends, two friends
15 mins! thank you for providing these videos!
# 1. They did NOT hate each other and Kareem has confirmed through several interviews how much he learned from Wilt and how much he respected him! Don't thrive on attention through stupidities. Kareem has a well-balanced education and a total intellectual.
4:10 I died of laughter.
Wilt's 100-point game is still the greatest scoring record ever and one that will probably last forever, even in the 3-point shot era!
Wilt was salty, lol.
Wilt Chamberlain's opinion on Kareem was he could have played defensively at a much higher level and praised Kareem on every other nba stat!
Walton parish and gilmore blocked kareem skyhook 🤷♂️
And most of wilt so called blocks were goaltendings
Wilt was hatin 😂😂
It's the opposite facial hair for me lol
Wilt better and a cooler person
Facts
Legendary beef
Wilt was basically passed his prime when their first match up came. Wilt in his prime would have did a lot more damage to Kareem.
Wilt has a great ego. He don't want to let someone went above him
This is helluva hidden gem, for me at least. This was before I was aware of the NBA and I love hearing stories about the stars of the past. I'm not with all of today's manufactured drama, this right here is legitimate "beef"! And I'm here for it. Great story on and off the court!🎉
Damm these are soo good and so different from other yourubers❤❤
I ABSOLUTELY love listening to videos like this i never knew that had such good and bad history
4:14 Lmao wtf? That's honestly a pretty good response.😂
try it on somone now genius, you'll be arrested
@@johncraftenworth7847 rightt arrested 🤣
My brother and I loved Kareem when he went to the Bucks back in the day .
Wilt seemed a bit Salty 🤧
The content is always top notch, love this channel getting sponsorships and growing
rip wilt the stilt
Nice video! Kareem is a standup dude.
Kareem ain’t been the same since he left Milwaukee
By the time the Lakers reassembled a good team Jabbar was getting over the hill. But he didn't suffer any rapid decline after Milwaukee. His team just suddenly got worse and missed the playoffs for a bit.
But something the same happened to Chamberlain when the Warriiors moved to San Francisco. Not immediately, but after they made the finals in.... '64?... they fell off a cliff. They were in the process of setting a league record for losses when Wilt was traded to the 76ers. Then the 76ers set a league record for wins a year and a half later.
4:05 bro wtf was wrong with Wilt😭😭
Prime Kareem vs Prime wilt who you got ??
It would be close but I say wilt but down to one point
Wilt
Wilt for sure.
Wilt without a doubt
Early 1960s wilt would've score 50s points scoring average playing against 1970s Kareem Abdul jabber , Kareem Abdul jabber against Victor wembanyama, jabber would've been yelling help help , no Mas no Mas Victor wembanyama keeps 🚫 block my skyhook shot ,, Rick smit& yao ming playing against Kareem Abdul jabber, Rick smit& yao ming would've block 🚫 🚚 truckload of jabber skyhook shots jabber yelling no Mas no Mas help help please take ( jabber) out of game got a yao ming & Rick smit migraine headache,, Gheorghe muresan would've ateup jabber skyhook shot, put jabber skyhook shot into trash 🗑🗑 🚮 can
Bro said”You have nice legs”
Kareem is the goat
I love the topics this channel does!
Only people who love Nonstop can like this
Kareem waters his plants so they won't Wilt. Chamberlain drinks his coffee black because he doesn't like Kareem😊
Wilt so insecure. Man Kareem flamed him in that book.. hahahaha.
“It’s raining” supervillain material right there
Outside of Shaq , the most physical center ever Wilt that is.
In basketball the center is the tallest player on the team
No offense to Shaq but Wilt would eat him alive. There has never been a stronger Basketball Player than Wilt
watch their tapes again, they dont even box out like they do today smh. Physical against their time yes, but I'm pretty sure you mean all time, so no Wilt isnt close to Shaq in physical domination, the rules of Wilt's time just didnt allow much physical play. This is exemplified by the fact that fade away made up almost 50% of Wilt's fg.
@@chrestiancapuli2221 Wilt is the strongest Athlete ever
@@chrestiancapuli2221 Wilt was way stronger than Shaq in all three major compound lifts + was a way better athlete (long jump and high jump).
Kareem and Wilt didn't hate each other.. when I worked at the VA in WLA I use to see them talking together at the Westwood Post Office where they both had PO Boxes several times a week, this was in the late 80s when Kareem was still playing and mid 90s after her retired, two years before Wilt died in 1999 I saw these two giants eating lunch together at Marie Calendar's restaurant on Wilshire Blvd near Beverly Hills... they use to say the same thing about Wilt and Bill Russell disliking each other but behind closed doors they were good friends, Kareem and Wilt may not have been buddy buddies but they respected each other as men and I'm sure they talked out their issues long before Wilt died.
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That's one of the funniest things i ever heard
random white dude: "How's the weather up there?"
Wilt: [spits on him] "It's raining"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
One of the greatest beefs. Kareem stood on bidness and principles. Peace to Wilt but he always lost me with the " White woman are better looking than black woman " BS 🤦🏾
Global surveys back up Wilt, buddy: Eastern-European women consistently rank highest for physical attractiveness.
@@gwreevesReeves You're a fool 😂🤣
@@gwreevesReeves and here you are being a brainwashed raycist
@@gwreevesReeves you're not good at understanding media or culture are you? Or any aspect of humanity
@@willywonka7812 If you call everything "racist", especially when it isn't....the word loses its meaning. Come back when you're ready to converse like an adult.
I looked at Wilts stats recently. I looked at his per 36. He averaged like 43-44 minutes a game. His per 36 really put his stats in perspective. His per 36 has him only having 3 seasons averaging 30+ points. Lol only two seasons averaging 20+ rebounds. Was just weird to see the differences.
14:06 *LEBRON JAMES*
When did Lebron blame those around him? Isn't Lebron always the kind of guy who lifts his teammate up?
@@bohanxu6125 Lebron blames his teammates for losses all the time
@@bohanxu6125you cannot be serious lol
@@ryanamburgy2791 can you name one time it happened?
You got that Lebron derangement syndrome
Wow - Kareem went IN!!!!!!!
I'm glad they made their peace, but sometimes you got to speak your peace too.
So Wilt didn’t like Kareem breaking scoring record but Kareem didn’t like LeBron his record. LeBron didn’t show up for Kobe’s statue. So basically A LOT OF EGOS.
Abdul Jabbar was there when Lebron broke the scoring record and said that is one record he won;t ever have to worry about. Abdul Jabbar's legacy is amazing just like the athletes of the 60s and 70s like Muhamamd ali
Keep up the good work NonStop Sports. When will you cover other sports?
It's weird how Kareem said that quote about Wilt but thinks Lebron is the GOAT. Thats very confusing. Because everything he said about Wilt also applies to Lebron lol.
I've been saying it for a while now that LBJ will go the route of wilt not MJ in how they're rembered. Respected for their contributions but not totally revered
@@SayanOfRagnarok I think so too I’ve been saying the same thing as well. You can already see that it’s happened to Michael Jordan. People treat Michael Jordan like he didn’t accomplish anything. 6-0 in the finals. 2 3-peats. Never got to a game 7. 10 times scoring champ. He still has records that nobody’s ever going to touch. He’s done tons of things in the league that no one will ever probably do again. People act like he’s not even that good. so that makes me thinking another 10 to 20 years people will be saying worse things about LeBron. Because if you objectively look at what LeBron has done versus Jordan or even Kareem, it’s really not that impressive. I know LeBron fans are going to get salty, but if you objectively look at it, there’s still other players that have a better overall career than LeBron. They may not have the same stat line he does as far as what they accomplished in their career. But objectively in their era they accomplished more.
@@ikiwheese I think it'll be worse for lebron too he's not as respected by players and right now he brings in money for the league and keeps the media on his side but once he's no longer the cash cow I think more negative stories will come out like how they did with wilt. On MJs side they knew he was competitive liked to gamble and smoke he never really hid that side of him or the fact he was an ass because he could back it up on the court. In LBJs case he cares way more about his public image. And his squeaky clean persona doesn't match the tantrums or moves he makes as LeGM lol. I really want to know Dwades real thoughts on the 2011 finals run. There are clips of him staring daggers at lebron completely fed up and in one interview people took it as a compliment but he said "i thought lebron was even more impressive in practice then he was in the game" or what his teammates really think of him always throwing them under the bus or minimizing their contributions.
@@SayanOfRagnarok I agree it will be interesting to say the least. A lot of lebrons teammates still say Jordan is the best and the ones who don’t basically don’t want to upset him. I can’t wait honestly lol.
@ikiwheese found out today alot of his old teammates were paid by clutch sports to sign nda's and not talk about his bas performances
Saw them both play in person. Wilt career free throw percentage 51.1 %. Kareem 72.1 career free throw percentage. Not even close. Kareem with the superior talent and will to get better and win. Wilt great showman and fun guy was too busy in the bedroom to put the time in to improve his horrific team crippling free throw shooting.
Nice vid
4:00 that's wild
At least one of Wilt's "block" of Kareem's sky hook was obvious goal tending and the other one was questionable
Off the court, wilt was a real sellout and a real disgrace to the black community.
Facts
How
@@Truthman45The video literally said it
180 degrees from Bird and Magic.
1 view in 52 seconds fell off
Lmao😂
Omg, its raining, thats the funniest shit ive ever heard 😂
I don’t think they hated each other they just grew apart as Lew became Kareem. He was no longer the kid that looked up to him and was a peer. Sometimes no one does anything wrong it’s just the dynamic of the friendship changes and it doesn’t work anymore.
Bob McADoo gave Jabbar a rough time getting shot off