I like quotes from Spec ops: The line so much... This game changed my mind... It's so great... A real experience and a great TPS "It takes a strong man to deny what's right in front of him. And if the truth is undeniable, you create your own." John Konrad "To kill for yourself is murder. To kill for your government is heroic. To kill for entertainment is harmless." - Loading Screen "The only villain, is you. It's only you." Hallucination of Lugo Lugo saying "Wow. If I wasn't a hardened kill' machine, that mighta hurt." Later saying, "HE TURNED US INTO F***ING KILLERS!" "Every minute we waste could mean the difference between a soldier going home alive or in a body bag"- Walker being right, although doesn't realize that it's all his fault "Gentlemen, welcome to Dubai." -Repeated by a couple of characters, then is said in a said in a nightmare "Welcome to hell, Walker." "The truth, Walker, is that you're here because you wanted to feel like something you're not. A hero." -John Konrad "I'm done playing games, John,"- Walker "What are the eight scariest words in the English language? 'We're Delta Force and we're here to help!'" -Radioman "Where's all this violence coming from? Is it the video games? I think it's the video games."- Radioman "The US army does not condone killing unarmed civilians. But this isn't real, so why should you care?"- Loading Screen "This is all your fault." -Loading Screen "Do you even remember why you're here?" -Loading Screen "How many Americans have you killed today?" -Loading Screen
"Hey John, remember back in Kabul? I said something about going home and you said... 'Home? We can't go home. There's a line men like us have to cross, if we're lucky; we do whats neccessary and then we die. No Captain, all I really want is peace"
The true outcome of the game is believed to be determined by the choices made during the game, followed by the screen transition during cutscenes. If the transition turns white it means Walker (by extension the player) made the right choice (or in this case we made the choice Walker would have in order to survive) However if it transitions to a black screen it means we've essentially created a time paradox. Normally, Walker would have made this choice if it had been feasible to him at the time, but was so driven by revenge didn't consider the consequences of his actions. Which means the scene where Walker executes the angry mob of civilians that strangles Lugo is actually the Canon option because again, Walker is so driven by revenge he's not willing to let that slide. At the end though, Konrad is basically explaining to Walker that he followed down the same path originally, and since Walker was so determined to follow in his footsteps, ultimately paid the same price for his failure. When you think about it Walker is simply thinking about what Konrad would have done to survive, and how the only way he walks out of Dubai alive is to become the monster he fears the most. To put it simply, Konrad is basically Walker's alter ego, trying to save him from himself. And the part where he says "you can still go home" is his way of telling Walker now that he's found the strength to confront his inner demons (as noted by "it takes a strong man to deny what's in front of him) he knows the consequences of the choices he will make from now on. The cutscene where Walker dies fades to a white screen, which is basically saying Walker goes to heaven, whereas if it fades to a black screen he goes to hell.
"Remember back in Kabul John, before things got bad? We were talkin',about nothin' really. I said something about goin' home, and you, you said: Home? (chuckles) We can't go home. There's a line, men like us have to cross. If we're lucky, we do what's neccessary and than we die. No, all I really want Captain, is peace.
Something great about this game, is that it has dialog during in-game that changes throughout the game. Especially the commands you give. You start out sounding like a true captain: _"Priority target, focus fire!"_ Then towards the end, once shit hit the fan, you're basically screaming at your men to kill the enemy: _"TAKE DOWN THAT MOTHERFUCKING SNIPER!"_ It really shows how the mental state of Walker changes throughout the game.
James Robbins um, I hope you know you're actually dead the entire game. The game started with an in media res, and Walker very well died in the crash. So, the entire game you're actually reliving all of Walker's memories and the things he did up to the point of the helicopter crash. And then everything after the point in the game of the helicopter crash, is Walker's own personal Hell.
James Robbins it's actually not a theory. There are many pieces of proof and many pieces of things within the game that basically hints to what I just said. So, what I said, is very well accurate
"Code Red! Delta is in the area! The marina has fallen. The whole fucking city has fallen! All remaining units are inbound. Everyone to your stations! MOVE!"
on that part you really see how much of a threat walker and his team is, you can hear pure fear and desperation in the guy's voice while he says this, plus seeing Dubai completely destroyed as you climb the tower. You really are the boogeyman in this game, goddamn
Spec Ops didn't really sell THAT well. It was marketed too heavily as just another generic tactical shooter (which was obviously the point), so people didn't buy it until word of mouth spread (thanks mostly to the Zero Punctuation review). Besides, even if they DID do a sequel it'd probably be a totally different story (the Line itself has no connection to the other Spec Ops games, after all). But yeah, a sequel is probably unlikely in the near future anyway. So no worries there.
@@14031993 I don't know exactly, but I don't think he said anything about it either. He just said that the development was painful. Maybe it could be because of having to make a dark and masterpiece story, and the top notch voice acting must have took more than they thought, or maybe a combination of several factors that made it difficult.
You mixed the best tracks from this game in my opinion and sincere thanks for the same. Dont find the sniper and battle tracks easily with most playlists consisting of the vintage songs. All credit to Elia Cmiral for this simple and intense background score.
Yeah, I agree. Though it's less awesome that the development team put so much work into creating this piece of art and now it's been considered a "financial failure" BECAUSE of it's artfulness...
there is one thing about this game that it could of done with, and that is more player choice (but they still have the main point of the game), as that'd drive the point further as to something will always go wrong.
It needs a remaster though with today's next gen graphics and refined gameplay to make it appeal to more and More audience so they can recognize this piece of art instead of hating on its mechanics...i found the gameplay mechanics fine...a bit clunky but yeah! That's great too
I'm sorry walker but you knew it would come to this...yours friends dead, the world on fire, and you alone...your a failure, finally something we have in common.
If Spec Ops get a pointless sequel purely in the name of making more money, I will fucking flip. The game is a self-contained story with a clear message, and needs absolutely NO sequel. Thats like writing a sequel to Heart of Darkness-pointless.
I read somewhere that Josh Homme of Queens of the Stone Age was involved in the soundtrack for this game. I couldn't find him in the credits anywhere, though the guitar on this is VERY Desert Sessions-y. Can anyone confirm if this is true?
he was involved with the first iteration of it, which was being developed by Rockstar Vancouver (formerly Barking Dog Studios who also made Bully and Max Payne 3). he wasn't involved in any way with Yaeger's project.
I hope you guys all know that you are actually dead the entire game. The whole game you are just reliving Walker's memories, the chaos "horrible" things that Walker caused. That's why the game starts with an in-media-res. Walker actually died in that Helicopter crash. Ever notice how he's all calm, well not literally, then after the helicopter crash, he starts to experience extreme insanity. Also, ever notice how no matter what choice path you choose, every choice you make ends up being bad and having a terrible outcome. The only actual good ending at the end of the game is for Walker to kill himself to end the horrible memories. He's living his own "purgatory" per say, so the only way to end and cleanse himself of the chaos that would of never happened if he had just followed simple orders to retreat, is to kill himself. That's why there's so many endings because Walker is just going to keep reliving his horrible memories over and over again, keep living his own personal hell until he decides to kill himself.
+Alan Shiroda Oddly enough, I recently watched the campaign of BOIII...and I have a very strange feeling that they were trying to copy off of this interpretation of the game. Can't really say why...
+Alan Shiroda, many writers worked on the game. The one who said he PERSONALLY thought Walker had died also specifically said other interpretations were valid. And all the writers DON'T agree that Walker is dead. And I happen to agree that it would detract from the story. For someone who claims to take a writer's word for it, you sure didn't read it very well.
That much is obvious. The first helicopter scene was merely a flashback. When the cycle repeats itself, Konrad says: "Welcome to hell Walker" which is a pretty clear indication that Walker burned in the crash. Furthermore, he is unable to differentiate fantasy from reality, and his vivid hallucinations are all because Konrad is trying to advise him against whatever course of action he is trying to take, so it's safe to assume that instead of hearing Konrad's voice on the radio, he heard his own. (Note the final mission of Walker standing across from Konrad) The reason I believe Konrad was Walker's "alter ego" was because an Intel file in the game diagnosed Konrad with PTSD, the same combat disorder Walker soon learns he has. Another reason is because Konrad (The REAL Konrad) was found dead in his office. If Walker aims the gun at his reflection, he ends up dying as a result of Karma or whatever the case may be. If he shoots Konrad, he hears him say, "you can still go home" which I believe is because Walker finally understands the truth: There is no escape.
Games like this are art, in the sense that the "truth" is irrelevant to discuss, for it is personal to each person, such as Walker's beliefs throught the game.
Nah, a lot of the soundtrack's pieces were made by Elia Cmiral, but none of them are on streaming services, iirc. (Unless they're the ones licensed by other artists, like Bad Vibrations) I don't even know if we have official names for it. Some people give this video's "The Battle" other names like "No Values" or "Welcome To Hell, Walker", and etc. Same with "Sniper Combat", also being called "Riggs' Theme". Hell, even more, there's MULTIPLE versions of these songs. Some shorter, some including other segments, some cutting it down, etc.
"If you don't mind me asking sir, how did you survive?"
"....Who says I did?"
Mustafa H. Ghoniem hey I just watched a video and saw you a couple minutes ago in the comments lol
I like quotes from Spec ops: The line so much... This game changed my mind... It's so great... A real experience and a great TPS
"It takes a strong man to deny what's right in front of him. And if the truth is undeniable, you create your own." John Konrad
"To kill for yourself is murder. To kill for your government is heroic. To kill for entertainment is harmless." - Loading Screen
"The only villain, is you. It's only you." Hallucination of Lugo
Lugo saying "Wow. If I wasn't a hardened kill' machine, that mighta hurt." Later saying, "HE TURNED US INTO F***ING KILLERS!"
"Every minute we waste could mean the difference between a soldier going home alive or in a body bag"- Walker being right, although doesn't realize that it's all his fault
"Gentlemen, welcome to Dubai." -Repeated by a couple of characters, then is said in a said in a nightmare "Welcome to hell, Walker."
"The truth, Walker, is that you're here because you wanted to feel like something you're not. A hero." -John Konrad
"I'm done playing games, John,"- Walker
"What are the eight scariest words in the English language? 'We're Delta Force and we're here to help!'" -Radioman
"Where's all this violence coming from? Is it the video games? I think it's the video games."- Radioman
"The US army does not condone killing unarmed civilians. But this isn't real, so why should you care?"- Loading Screen
"This is all your fault." -Loading Screen
"Do you even remember why you're here?" -Loading Screen
"How many Americans have you killed today?" -Loading Screen
First time in a video game where a loading screen line made me question what I was doing lol.
"Hey John, remember back in Kabul? I said something about going home and you said... 'Home? We can't go home. There's a line men like us have to cross, if we're lucky; we do whats neccessary and then we die. No Captain, all I really want is peace"
it's "remember back in kabul, John? before things got bad? we were talking....about nothing, really." The rest is correct.
The true outcome of the game is believed to be determined by the choices made during the game, followed by the screen transition during cutscenes.
If the transition turns white it means Walker (by extension the player) made the right choice (or in this case we made the choice Walker would have in order to survive)
However if it transitions to a black screen it means we've essentially created a time paradox. Normally, Walker would have made this choice if it had been feasible to him at the time, but was so driven by revenge didn't consider the consequences of his actions.
Which means the scene where Walker executes the angry mob of civilians that strangles Lugo is actually the Canon option because again, Walker is so driven by revenge he's not willing to let that slide.
At the end though, Konrad is basically explaining to Walker that he followed down the same path originally, and since Walker was so determined to follow in his footsteps, ultimately paid the same price for his failure.
When you think about it Walker is simply thinking about what Konrad would have done to survive, and how the only way he walks out of Dubai alive is to become the monster he fears the most.
To put it simply, Konrad is basically Walker's alter ego, trying to save him from himself. And the part where he says "you can still go home" is his way of telling Walker now that he's found the strength to confront his inner demons (as noted by "it takes a strong man to deny what's in front of him) he knows the consequences of the choices he will make from now on.
The cutscene where Walker dies fades to a white screen, which is basically saying Walker goes to heaven, whereas if it fades to a black screen he goes to hell.
@@M4A1BestGirl i dont think you go to heaven for doing what he did....
"Remember back in Kabul John, before things got bad? We were talkin',about nothin' really. I said something about goin' home, and you, you said: Home? (chuckles) We can't go home. There's a line, men like us have to cross. If we're lucky, we do what's neccessary and than we die. No, all I really want Captain, is peace.
Beginning: "... Death toll... Too many" - Konrad
End: "... Survivors ...One too many" - Walker
I actually can't understand properly what "Survivors..... One too many" means.
@@cpt.martinwalker6268 He might be referencing that he probably thinks he didn't deserve to live for what he did.
@@morphadomus2385 Oh, I understand now. Thanks a lot. :)
Something great about this game, is that it has dialog during in-game that changes throughout the game. Especially the commands you give. You start out sounding like a true captain: _"Priority target, focus fire!"_
Then towards the end, once shit hit the fan, you're basically screaming at your men to kill the enemy: _"TAKE DOWN THAT MOTHERFUCKING SNIPER!"_
It really shows how the mental state of Walker changes throughout the game.
We meet again lol.
Gerbs1913 Hm, indeed. o.q
James Robbins um, I hope you know you're actually dead the entire game. The game started with an in media res, and Walker very well died in the crash. So, the entire game you're actually reliving all of Walker's memories and the things he did up to the point of the helicopter crash. And then everything after the point in the game of the helicopter crash, is Walker's own personal Hell.
Alan Shiroda That is a theory released by the game's makers, and it has nothing to do with what I said about the dialogue of the game.
James Robbins it's actually not a theory. There are many pieces of proof and many pieces of things within the game that basically hints to what I just said. So, what I said, is very well accurate
"Code Red! Delta is in the area! The marina has fallen. The whole fucking city has fallen! All remaining units are inbound. Everyone to your stations! MOVE!"
"So, how'd you wanna do this?" -Lt. Adams
"Kill everything that fucking moves."
"Sounds like a plan!" - Lt. Adams
on that part you really see how much of a threat walker and his team is, you can hear pure fear and desperation in the guy's voice while he says this, plus seeing Dubai completely destroyed as you climb the tower. You really are the boogeyman in this game, goddamn
gentlemen, welcome to dubai
Criminally underrated game. This is a piece of art, gentlemen.
Adams is such a badass, it might be possible he survived and killed everyone.
Spec Ops didn't really sell THAT well. It was marketed too heavily as just another generic tactical shooter (which was obviously the point), so people didn't buy it until word of mouth spread (thanks mostly to the Zero Punctuation review).
Besides, even if they DID do a sequel it'd probably be a totally different story (the Line itself has no connection to the other Spec Ops games, after all).
But yeah, a sequel is probably unlikely in the near future anyway. So no worries there.
The writer of Spec Ops: The Line said that the development phase was so painful and brutal that they would rather eat glass than make a sequel.
@@cpt.martinwalker6268 Why is that? Why was it painful?
@@14031993 I don't know exactly, but I don't think he said anything about it either. He just said that the development was painful. Maybe it could be because of having to make a dark and masterpiece story, and the top notch voice acting must have took more than they thought, or maybe a combination of several factors that made it difficult.
Difficulty in making another game like it aside, you can't really make a sequel when everyone in the story is dead.
Indeed the music from the chapter "The Battle" is truly amazing,it matches your emotions perfectly while playing.
Hands down, best game of 2012.
You mixed the best tracks from this game in my opinion and sincere thanks for the same. Dont find the sniper and battle tracks easily with most playlists consisting of the vintage songs. All credit to Elia Cmiral for this simple and intense background score.
“I didn’t mean to hurt anybody.”
"No one ever does, Walker."
I hope they make more games like this
Exactly what was going through my head
Don't really like video games too much. But the score of this one is nothing short of amazing.
So thankful... what a great game.
I love this song so much I'd marry it.
20 minutes of masterpiece
Yeah, I agree. Though it's less awesome that the development team put so much work into creating this piece of art and now it's been considered a "financial failure" BECAUSE of it's artfulness...
there is one thing about this game that it could of done with, and that is more player choice (but they still have the main point of the game), as that'd drive the point further as to something will always go wrong.
11:55
"Welcome to hell, Walker. We've been waiting for you"
thanks 4 the link men. now the pain of the war will in my phone and everywhere!!
I feel like a hero
Awesome! This game was a work of art, it doesn't need a sequel ruining its reputation (see Bioshock 2)
It needs a remaster though with today's next gen graphics and refined gameplay to make it appeal to more and More audience so they can recognize this piece of art instead of hating on its mechanics...i found the gameplay mechanics fine...a bit clunky but yeah! That's great too
I'm sorry walker but you knew it would come to this...yours friends dead, the world on fire, and you alone...your a failure, finally something we have in common.
man what a gut wrenching game, so well done though minus a few odd designs with in game mechanics. Shame it didnt do well
"The Battle"
This was no hero. This was a fucking warrior!!!
Also you are so awesome, uploader, please upload more spec ops extended OSTs
It was a failure? I wasn't aware of that. Hm, thats too bad :(
and it should be as dark as spec ops the line but with better gameplay and graphics
We need "the battle" mp3!
This game fucked me up
11:55 If you want to skip to the battle
Welcome to Hell Walker.
*has to reload* Arghh! Goddamn it!!
Where can I get the soundtrack for this amazing game?
If Spec Ops get a pointless sequel purely in the name of making more money, I will fucking flip. The game is a self-contained story with a clear message, and needs absolutely NO sequel. Thats like writing a sequel to Heart of Darkness-pointless.
where i can get guitar tabs to this?
He is dead, no way he could win that fight.
Thanks :D
I read somewhere that Josh Homme of Queens of the Stone Age was involved in the soundtrack for this game. I couldn't find him in the credits anywhere, though the guitar on this is VERY Desert Sessions-y. Can anyone confirm if this is true?
he was involved with the first iteration of it, which was being developed by Rockstar Vancouver (formerly Barking Dog Studios who also made Bully and Max Payne 3). he wasn't involved in any way with Yaeger's project.
Bro, because this I love you. No, just kidding. Thank you. Hahah
3:48 HOSTILE DOWN!
I hope you guys all know that you are actually dead the entire game. The whole game you are just reliving Walker's memories, the chaos "horrible" things that Walker caused. That's why the game starts with an in-media-res. Walker actually died in that Helicopter crash. Ever notice how he's all calm, well not literally, then after the helicopter crash, he starts to experience extreme insanity. Also, ever notice how no matter what choice path you choose, every choice you make ends up being bad and having a terrible outcome. The only actual good ending at the end of the game is for Walker to kill himself to end the horrible memories. He's living his own "purgatory" per say, so the only way to end and cleanse himself of the chaos that would of never happened if he had just followed simple orders to retreat, is to kill himself. That's why there's so many endings because Walker is just going to keep reliving his horrible memories over and over again, keep living his own personal hell until he decides to kill himself.
+Alan Shiroda Oddly enough, I recently watched the campaign of BOIII...and I have a very strange feeling that they were trying to copy off of this interpretation of the game. Can't really say why...
+Alan Shiroda, many writers worked on the game. The one who said he PERSONALLY thought Walker had died also specifically said other interpretations were valid. And all the writers DON'T agree that Walker is dead. And I happen to agree that it would detract from the story.
For someone who claims to take a writer's word for it, you sure didn't read it very well.
That much is obvious. The first helicopter scene was merely a flashback. When the cycle repeats itself, Konrad says: "Welcome to hell Walker" which is a pretty clear indication that Walker burned in the crash.
Furthermore, he is unable to differentiate fantasy from reality, and his vivid hallucinations are all because Konrad is trying to advise him against whatever course of action he is trying to take, so it's safe to assume that instead of hearing Konrad's voice on the radio, he heard his own. (Note the final mission of Walker standing across from Konrad) The reason I believe Konrad was Walker's "alter ego" was because an Intel file in the game diagnosed Konrad with PTSD, the same combat disorder Walker soon learns he has. Another reason is because Konrad (The REAL Konrad) was found dead in his office. If Walker aims the gun at his reflection, he ends up dying as a result of Karma or whatever the case may be. If he shoots Konrad, he hears him say, "you can still go home" which I believe is because Walker finally understands the truth: There is no escape.
Games like this are art, in the sense that the "truth" is irrelevant to discuss, for it is personal to each person, such as Walker's beliefs throught the game.
Can someone tell me the musical scale of the two soundtracks?
Or Dubai, same thing, really.
check the description
I wonder if and how adams died
Is this on Spotify? I've been searching for them and I can't find them.
Nah, a lot of the soundtrack's pieces were made by Elia Cmiral, but none of them are on streaming services, iirc.
(Unless they're the ones licensed by other artists, like Bad Vibrations)
I don't even know if we have official names for it. Some people give this video's "The Battle" other names like "No Values" or "Welcome To Hell, Walker", and etc.
Same with "Sniper Combat", also being called "Riggs' Theme".
Hell, even more, there's MULTIPLE versions of these songs. Some shorter, some including other segments, some cutting it down, etc.
is their a way I can get 'the battle on iTunes
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13:22 name ost plase? :D
Guillermo Didier No value or spec Ops the line Battle. Value begins this part of the song halfway and Battle continues it
Gentlemen
Welcome to Dubai.