Is This Invasive Plant Killing Wetlands?
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I live in England where I look forward to Purple Loosestrife each year. I live near various water systems and PL is found in occasional clumps here and there. It adds its beauty to the riverside flora and does not impact on other plants. Thanks for a balanced view on this attractive plant.
I feel like it is unfair to compare its great attributes in its native ecosystem to not being a noxious plant in exotic ecosystems. I am not saying that it is a bad plant wholly by saying it is invasive.
Personally I think it can be overstated BOTH ways! As Adam obviously teased out, many many people are overstating the harms of PLS in the US yet I think you could also overstate the benefits of it in the US.
It is however good that you can talk about the benefits in England and how you look forward to it. It is a beautiful plant!
Most of what grows in the US came from Europe and other countries as well anyhow. Google is information, and information isnt knowing.
@@micah_leewe are the most invasive life form, wreaking the most havoc
@@sheldon740 Really? People like you are the reason people in this world hate each other. We are not the problem. We are loving, creative, intelligent beings who have done incredible things on this planet. But yea, hate humans, hate yourself. As for me, I'll continue to appreciate God's most amazing creation and not downgrade myself or any other human because of attitudes like yours.
@@micah_lee It’s more than just a beautiful plant, it is a very effective medicinal plant which is both astringent and mucilaginous at the same time. That’s not common. And if you soak wood or material in a strong tea made from PLS it stops them rotting in water.
I love the depth of the research you put into your videos. We have learned SO much from you over the years. Thank you for your disciplined and informative videos!
Love your videos Adam. Also love your "non-aggressive and non-invasive" approach on the subject. Your demeanor is much needed in all areas of life. Thanks so much.
Great video! Thank you! I live in Ireland and can confirm it certainly is not causing monoculture or any other problems in the wetland area where I live. 🌱💚🙏✨🔥
Here in Europe, Lythrum was used as a medicinal plant. It seems to have some healing properties and is - for instance - believed to help with diabetes type 2. it was even used to help cure cholera during last century’s epidemics, and also in the kitchen to make sugar take on a purple colour. Certain parts of the plant were eaten by way of vegetables, too.
Besides all that, I think it really looks very beautiful!
- So, thanks a lot for the valuable and interesting information on this underappreciated plant, Adam!
This is something I've been wondering for a long time. I was seeing all the headlines about purple loosestrife but whenever I actually visited wetlands in my area loosestrife was always a very minor component to the plant populations. Good to see there's been some studies done on the topic. Great video!
Thank you Adam, for making a video for Purple Loosestrife.
I once read that Purple Loosestrife was imported to America when the European Honey Bees were brought here, because it was the honey bee's favorite plant!
It is true, the honey bees flock like crazy to this plant's pretty flowers.
I have a sensible natural rule: "If the Honey Bees give a plant their thumbs up, it should never be put on a plant extermination list!"
I love this beautiful purple plant : )
Keep in mind that there are many other factors to consider. Nature is not static and is constantly adjusting. Conservation Biologists such as myself have worked for the past 30+ years to help to curtail the problem. Biological controls in the form of various beetles and weevils have been released to help control purple loosestife. In some of the cases where purple loosestrife has not become a big problem it is partly a measure of the success and effectiveness of efforts to control its spread.
I am not in favor of hyped-up outrageous headlines, but I know that they are often used in order to promote awareness of a problem that would otherwise be ignored. Overall, since the 1970s ecologists and educators have done a pretty good job at making the public aware of real and potential environmental problems. And public awareness is a very good first step.
Having spent 31 years working in the field and studying invasive species I can tell you that I have seen places where there were hundreds of acres of purple loosestife creating a near monoculture, and other places where it would occasionally appear as a background species. I would be very slow to criticize studies that indicate it is a problem, and I would be equally slow to criticize studies that indicate that it is not a problem. Studies done in different locations resulting in different conclusions are not necessarily diametrically opposed to each other and one does not cancel the other. But rather they both can be uniquely informative regarding the conditions under which they were conducted.
Lastly, I would like to point out that with nearly every invasive species I have ever studied, we will witness a relatively slow increase in the population to a point where a sudden dramatic increase in numbers will occur. And this is followed shortly afterward by a crash in the population and a stabilization of the numbers. The point at which an impact study is done along this timeline will generally result in vastly different conclusions!
Thank you for this excellent, well researched video. I was one of those people who thought purple loosestrife was a scourge of our wetlands. I have learned a lot today. Very much appreciated!
Me too.
Nature knows what it is doing. It is humans that tries to constantly control and screws everything up, instead of the deep heart-knowimg connection with being one with animals and nature, in my opinion.
Much love Adam! 💜
Thank you (as always) for your professional feedback. Purple loosestrife grows in my backyard along the Delaware river and I needed a better understanding of this plant
As an adult, the beautiful color is very striking and may be why some think it is taking over as they didn't really notice it before. Thanks for presenting both sides and helping me grow.
Thank you.
As a permaculturist I get that the landscape has already been altered by man, and that it has been changed before the intro of invasives. While I am advocating differently from saying 'we should introduce new species,' there is a reason why some species are rampant, and that is because we created holes in the environment where these easilyfit in...
And the greatest hole created here in north america is the eradication of traditional land management.
@@lemongauche
Traditional land management meant a lot of really big game went extinct.
It wasn't that perfect...
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@@b_uppy Very true. Still a way better score than our current batting average for species extinction and habitat and biodiversity loss - let alone human skills & land interaction loss.
@@lemongauche
Many solutions are skewed for the corporate conglomerates to profit. That's why I think a person really needs to do research. I saw a presentation by my local Extensuon service where a lot was skewed as 'invasive' when it was introduced by people. We then had chemical ag addicts spraying in waterways, etc causing problems that way...
Excellent presentation. I have a glossy buckthorn invasion happening in my forest. I was in the process of controlling the situation so it wouldn’t choke out my forest. It has been two years of exhaustive culling by various means. My forest was completely decimated by hurricane Fiona so my efforts were somewhat in vain. I was absolutely shocked by the devastation that the hurricane created. Anyway, my plans have changed a great deal and so onward I go.
Adam's narratives are always informative, evidence-based and objective -- very refreshing to be able to tune in and know that he won't be preaching, only educating! Thank you for all you do, Adam!
Thank you. In a lane filled with non native species it’s helpful to hear that its not always a disaster. Should we work to limit the introduction of non natives yes probably in most cases. Are they all harbingers of doom? Not likely.
I do think it is more beneficial to talk about bringing back native plants rather in any case! Land management practices have caused us to lose many in the landscape both that and invasive like that we cut our yards etc
Smart young man. I was yelling at my phone at you until you told both sides. I've had the plant here for years and some years and they don't always show up every year.
This is one of your best videos to date. You present a larger spectrum of data that stimulates thought and curiosity.
We really don't fully understand how nature's ecosystems adapt, change and exist and to think that our limited observations can be conclusive is not only folly but can also be dangerous when laws are enacted to further disrupt the balance of these systems. Change is a constant
Thanks Adam, it’s nice when someone is intelligent enough to give us the facts. Who needs fake news from the drama folks?
So timely this video came out. I’ve only been noticing purple Loosestrife for a month or so and love seeing it along with black-eye Susans and Goldenrods along the highway. Some folks will cultivate them in their yards, and the flowers get so big and full. Thanks for the vid.
When I listen to,you I learn so much more about my surroundings plus I am a fellow Yinzer from Eastern Ohio and you remind me of home!
Thanks so much for this Adam. I've been meaning to look this up for a long time because my observations in a local marsh have been, as you've suggested that purple loosestrife may not always be detrimental.
I transplanted one of these from the roadside, before I knew that it was considered invasive. I have struggle with whether I should remove it. This one plant has been growing on the edge of my small pond for at least 5 years. It blooms every year, but it has not multiplied at all. I appreciate the information, and I think I'll keep my loostrife!
BRAVO!! Thank you for the informative "other side" of the story. Relatively new subscriber and very much enjoy your content.
Good for you! I had thought the case was overblown for a long time. Thanks for putting the "other side" out there!
Great advice Adam, as always Thank you. I've seen the warnings about loosestrife on Canadian news media and it became a sort of cause celeb for some well-meaning environmentalists in the nineties pulling them up and burning the roots, that kind of thing. It still is very abundant along the north shore of Lake On. not so much when you get into the Canadian shield. They even went to the extent or were talking about importing a certain beetle that controls the spread from Europe. I don't know whatever happened to that idea but I never thought that to be a wise move!
Well stated Adam! And a very wise statement on adult thinking, which we all need to improve. And of course blaming plants or animals for our decline of natural environment is laughable in the light of many square miles of development each year with needless malls and stores. Thought indeed is needed but most of all protecting what remains. Kind Thanks and Many Blessings! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Thank you for saying so🌿🌸
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So true
Great videos. And I get your point! But here in Massachusetts, entire wetland basins near my home were completely overwhelmed by L. salicaria. I live along a (small) river - and the loosestrife was crowding out my native lobelia and others. Over the years, and with patient manual control (i.e. pulling the loosestrife,) I now have a much more diverse riverfront (a few common rushes but also plenty Joe-Pye and many other plants I haven't yet bothered to identify.) Lots of happy hummers, butterflies and bees. (Loosestrife does, though, makes great honey...) p.s. I grew up in PA, so your videos give me deep nostalgia for the woods of PA. Thanks so much for your great posts!
Excellent video! and a perfect example of how we can take something from nature and apply that attitude to other aspects of our life.
I would love to hear you talk about reed canary grass and phragmites. I appreciate your ability to look at these plants from both sides of the argument! Thank you
Hey I would like to know what health bennifits it gives. I have read a little on the net and it's just glancing the topic. So I'm curious as to what bennifits they give as medical plants. Thanks
Adam: (tons of useful information)
Bluejay in the background: AAAehh! Eaannhh!
I very much appreciate your objective approach to topics and your "public service" message that we should apply critical thinking to all areas of life. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for unbiased research. Purple loosestrife is a haven for pollinators when it’s in bloom in my garden.
Its very pretty. ( that counts in my book) I grew- up in Jersey in what was considered flood area and was built on swamps. Don' t recall ever seeing the stuff. Currently in SW Pa and have never seen it. I searched medicinal and edible qualities and it has both. Perhaps thats where the anti propaganda comes from.
Thank you, I got hyperfixated on purple loosestrife this year because I'm seeing it everywhere and I wasn't sure what to think. It's such a pretty flower, but it has this aura of dangerosity. This video falls on point, and helps greatly with my reflections! I'm going to leave it be now
Plant native!😄
of course! I'm not talking about planting loosestrife, I'm talking about leaving it in the wild
There are a lot of wetlands in Michigan where I live. I see purple loose strife and ditches more often. It provides roadside beauty that I don't mind
One of the best youtubers for accurate knowledge throughout the plant kingdom !🤗🤗 Yes, We need both sides of the story. Having said that, it is almost always better to both plant & favor more NATIVE species...whenever possible ! Video watcher might note that flower "seems to" mimic a small bug insect with 2 small eyes & a face outline, perhaps as a further pollinating insect attractant
Who knew! We have them all along the train tracks here at home and I love them they’re beautiful.
You keep me well informed, in a time of disinformation.
Keep up the excellent work my brother. Thank you
Thank you Adam for all your hard work and research investigation on protecting and keeping our wildlife safe. It seems nowadays they want to deem every plant as invasive. I do believe the honeysuckle is banned in 5 North American states. There are so many plants that are so beneficial for our health and for the health of our wildlife, that the majority of the masses want to deem everything as invasive. I wish people would stop putting that nasty word on wildlife. Things may grow and people may not be fond of them but that does not mean that they're invasive that they're taking over anything other than the dirt patch that it grows on... The trumpet vine on the other hand is an aggressive plant it takes over everything literally it will grow on anything that's what I consider invasive. But something that is minding its business and doesn't disrupt any other part of the ecosystem is not invasive just because you see a lot of it. Again thank you so much Adam I know I just don't speak for myself when I say we truly appreciate you. Till next time, God bless.
Thanks, Adam, for the wonderful video. You've demonstrated once again the importance of carefully considering an issue at hand, rather than blindly taking things on faith. Not everything is so black and white, especially in nature, e.g., "bad plant vs good plant", as we are often led to believe. As you mentioned in your video, humans are often too quick to blame invasive plants, animals etc., for problems that were mostly caused by the humans themselves. Like an independent journalist, you always consider complex issues from different sides and do a lot of your own research, which I very much appreciate and admire.
I have Lythrum in my perennial garden. Lovely, hardy plant and very attractive to pollinators.
Bravo! I'm in Louisiana and a bit jealous because we don't have any.
Great information! Would you consider creating a series on other plants in North America that have been classified as invasive or noxious weeds? It would also be helpful if you include description of its overall plant structure like what type of root system it has? Does Purple Loosestrife have rhizomes? Is that why it is so invasive and hard to keep under control? Does it emit compounds into the soil that make it difficult for other plant species to survive? My cousin has loosestrife growing in her backyard. It arrived a few years ago and she liked the flowers and let it continue to grow.
It's actually to hear from a true environmentalist. A long forgotten trait so miss used now... Bravo
Everytime I've seen this plant, it never really looks like it's "taking over"... usually just a few sparsely-grouped plants (unlike Garlic Mustart, for instance). I've seen pictures of entire marshes where it was basically the only thing growing, but I'm thinking conditions have to be very favorable for this to happen.
i have it growing in my yard and love it
I heard beekeepers may have planted some areas with purple loose strife and I believe it after keeping bees once near a wetland that had lots of purple loosestrife, Joe-Pye-weed and goldenrod. The hive filled up with honey fast. I know honeybees aren't native either but there were lots of native pollinators visiting as well.
Another good note to touch on would be how it behaves in wetlands where it's native and a comparison to its new home
Thanks for sharing all these great sources and putting this video together. For anyone who wants to learn more on this topic, I recommend the books Where Do Camels Belong? by Ken Thompson and Beyond the War on Invasive Species by Tao Orion.
It's good to hear about the survival and diversity of our indigenous plants beyond our perception of a European monoculture.
Excellent video. Thank you Adam.
Very well said 😊. I love your videos and have learned so much from you.
I would love to hear you talk about the history of kudzu and vinca/periwinkle vine.
Thinkng? Adult? Changing our minds? How totally quaint! I love it!
Another Interesting & Informative Study!
You are awesome Adam! Great video
Mine attracts more pollinators than anything else so I would never get rid of it. It is beautiful and I love it. I have had the same 3 clumps for over 15+ years and have only seen a couple other plants on the neighbors property in all that time. I would not consider that invasive. With the attacks on our food systems it is not a surprise "they" would want people to see plant as invasive and miss out on such a great pollinator. Seriously, one stalk of flowers may have 10+ bees, beetles, wasps and other bugs and butterflies on it. It has so much activity that I usually stay a couple feet away from it when it is in full bloom.
In my country _purple_ _loosestrife_ is called _kattenstaart_ , which means _cattail_
Thanks for the information.
Well Said
That was some beautiful ironweed you were standing under.
Thank you for defending this beautiful bee and inxect friendly plant with an unbiased assessment.
I have it round my garden pond and it has caused no trouble. I wish the media would stop this toxic vocabulary which
influences so many people who don't bother to help k out the facts.
Keep up the good work
E. BLACK
And as shown in your videos it provides an important source of nectar to honey bees during a time when little else is available to them.
You should a video about flowering rush! (Butomus umbellatus)
I love purple loosestrife! I have observed healthy wetlands where it grows. It certainly attracts pollinators which makes me happy. It is an important food source for pollinators. What's not to love?
I lived in Ontario when the purple monster was first deemed a horrible plant. There were groups of hysterical people out along the roadways with plastic bags and twist ties to cover the flower heads to stop the spread. I thought it was excessive then… I’m not surprised that we did not hear half of the story. Love your channel… not fond of mushrooms but your videos are informative and who knows.. one day I might actually learn to like eating mushrooms 😉. Your foraging videos should been seen in schools to teach them now. Before it’s too late.
There was so much hype about this plant a few years ago: troops of people along highways trying to eradicate. In my observations it never amounted to much here in Northern Ontario, it's not a super spreader and I've rarely seen clusters of it. It's a nice flower for the bee's, there are so many plants from all over the world here hundreds of plants from grasses to trees. Japanese Knotweed is more of a problem in my mind. edit typo
If I were the researchers on the topic of evasive plants destroying ecosystems, I’d focus on Japanese knotweed. It literally takes over any area it gets into and it’s very difficult to remove.
Well, you can chalk up one (previously strongly anti-strifer) changed mind.Thanks.
Love the info. Have you done a video on Scotch broom. It is prolific in WA state.
I came here via the Sumac video. They are nice looking and deep reddish purple when they are about two feet in hight clustered together but not so much when they are at their tallest. I live 50 miles NE from NYC. My area didn't have any but I know they're coming soon. I found a road about 8 miles away that have these plants. They are in the drainage ditches and with every passing vehicle their seeds are spreading along these ditches. Thankfully they mow the sides of the roads and they haven't gotten into the many tiny marshes and small swamps along the road leading to my town and the swampy end of the nine mile lake I live by. The reason for all that is the map you showed showed my area densely populated but just by traveling around that doesn't seem to be the case...Yet.
These "studies" mainly sound like "Climate Change" sycophancy among scientists dependent on grants and research funding. "Trust The Science" only after you see the funding.
Man, it's great how your videos always have some relativity to the outdoor things I'm looking at. For me particularly I'm wondering about an ornamental milkweed, Asclepias Incarnata "Ice Ballet", Ice Ballet Swamp Milkweed. Personally I think the standard Swamp Milkweed is absolutely beautiful and this "Ice Ballet" version is kind of meh. Here's the thing though, I've been having a really hard time finding monarch caterpillars this year on the standard types of field milkweed. But wouldn't you know it my neighbors garden with this "ice ballet" version has a bunch of them! I grabbed some seed pods and am considering spreading it around. I reeeally don't like the idea of spreading some non native outside of a garden though and been trying to weigh pros and cons of spreading this seed. I don't think it would go full invasive like the plant mentioned in the video but at the same time I absolutely don't want to push out the native milkweeds.
Consider planting it only on your property for a few years to see how easily it is managed. Definitely check in with local environmental organizations to see what they think. In the meantime continue planting native milkweed wherever you can.
If you see marked increases in monarch butterflies and caterpillars on your imported variety, let your local environmental group know.
@@anthonymorris615 Sounds like a great idea to me. Because of this I've started looking at the standard swamp milk weed near some local roads. Kind of think stopping to grab a seed pod of that is better if I want to randomly spread it around. Also going to plant more of this "Ice Ballet" version in the yard. The part about telling local environmental group if I actually notice something over a few is a part I really need to keep in mind, thanks. Maybe I should try this ornamental and local one within close proximity of each other.
It doesn't really matter if it's "not as bad as it seems." Because a native plant would take its position if it were gone
Hi Adam, can you also cover DSV please, bless your heart. :)
I always love to see loosestrife and want to plant it on my land. I love siberian honeysuckle, multiflora rose too. any thing that grows well on my land in W.Maine. People are invasive species in general, if you're going to hold on to the invasive species view.
"This is what being an adult is about". Bravo! I think that we don't have enough "adults in the room" these days.
Always more nuanced than the headlines would have you believe. I remember going on loostrife eradication walks, some folks were even using glyphosate to treat it. That hysteria seems to have mellowed substantially. Ecosystems are generally masters at resilience, if given enough time.
Well stated! Mankind and our ever growing quest for land development is was and always will be the biggest detriment to wetlands! Due to it we have even changed weather patterns compared to the 50's. Less and less rural and wetlands and more and more paved big city sprawl has prevented the hold and release of rain waters. Those wetlands are like a sponge and held said waters and released them slowly. Now days rains go onto pavement then into drainage systems then straight into the rivers. Why do you think we have ever increasing issues like Kentucky is going thru now? Rains are larger, more severe because the build and release formats have been disrupted by mankind. Someday we will awake from what we have done and finally try to move forward with more careful consideration and planning.
Gives a pop of color to all the green
Nectary, root exudates, biomass and unique microbial host -- welcome!
I appreciate the perspective here.
I wonder if the association of loosestrife with plant diversity has to do with site quality.
And I wonder if the modest adverse effects we are seeing might be due to the fact that we are only part way through an invasion process, that could get worse.
Dandilion was hated and look how wonderful it actually is! 💪💚
Always best accept facts and the evidence.
We need to be careful and not allow our bias to control us. One cannot bend reality to their wishes by rewriting it.
Wow! Hmm🤔 eerily similar to current events. I agree the truth lies somewhere in the middle, however often we are presented one side of the story. Nicely done Adam, I am a fan.💚
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I have been doing extensive local field reasearch in my local oakville Ontario area and have seen purple loosestrife everywhere however I have seen no impact on other species from it. However European reed and greater burdock have massively impacted the ecosystem and diversity you can see my observations on inaturalist crazywileycoyote
Take a shot everytime he says "purple loosestrife" 😛
10:30 A very important message to humans in current times.
WOOOOW Just watched one of your earlier videos-where you had the long hair! Now you look ike this...I feel like I watched you grow up dude! Love you so much! Your new haircut is awesome! You look so so sooo manly....so proud of you. Feel like watching my kid graduate again. I'm just to your left-Dayton, Ohio. We went camping over in your area-Pike Lake and Paint Lake! WOW!!! Under a really OLD pine forrest with red/pink rulussas??? or boletas? But IT WAS LIKE ALICE IN WONDERLAND!!! I wanted to lay down and take a nap-UNfortunatley-we were Disc Golfing....at a campsite...so yeah I couldn't look too close or long. But it was ETHERIAL....I love you so much and have learned so much from you. You are a beautiful soul. Hope to meet you some day in some forest some time ....
Great work! BTW, Finches and other seed eating birds love purple loostrife seeds so there's that at least.
Great job. It's all over my area in Central MA, but pollinators seem to enjoy it. I hope research outweighs sensationalism.
Good stuff. Love the haircut.
Very interesting video! It looks like a very attractive flower, I don't recall seeing it here in San Diego County, but we have something very similar, which blooms in the mountains and is gorgeous.
only seen it in the past few years here. Very pretty with the brown eyes susans.
It's flowers are medicinal, it's leaves and roots are edible, and I could probably make something with the biomass. You say "Invasive," and I hear "Harvest indiscriminately," lol!
Here in my area of NC...the privet bush...tree is just everywhere. Been eradicating it from my yard for years now.
I have it for hegerows on my fences. I love it because it keeps its leaves most of the winter and provides lots of forage for my horses, goats, cows and deer during the year when everything else is brown dead or barren dormant. In late spring it blooms and provides my bees with excellent nectar, enough to provide a honey crop. Most of all I love the privacy it provides, hence the name "privet"
Oh yeah.. As far as removing it, just mow where you dont want anything. I have yet to see a plant that can resist a mower blade.
My father owned a marsh and went hog wild getting rid of purple loosestrife but completely ignored the phragmites that was decimating his land
Can you do a video on the top 5 most invasive species in North America?
Do one on japanese knotweed.
I thought that PL produced a natural herbicide that killed out adjoining plants and made it particularly aggressive.
Honestly a fan of purple loostrife. before I knew what this plant was say a ton of polinators one one plant on the side of the road one day. It peaked my interest and I actually went and dug it up to put in my garden. Plant is great for polinators and birds like the seeds also. I chop it down before it has the chance to lay seeds every year but for now it is. Good nector source. Lowley embarrassed that itsin my garden however
Love the new haircut.