exactly. people are always enabling tf out of their friend's bad behaviour. so much to the point that, when you're not a 'yes person', these same 'friends' come at you. anyone who doesn't call out their friends WITHOUT sugarcoating is weak to me
the fact that so many men equate holding each other accountable to "betrayal" just shows that a lot of them are too weak to have anyone other than 'yes men' around them. even the way that they'll sugarcoat their words and make excuses for each other. and the one guy who doesn't is seen as the problem. i've witnessed this so many times in my life. it's like they need someone to start the bandwagon of TRULY holding someone else accountable for them to be able to jump on board. but these are the same ones who have the nerve to consider themselves 'the leaders' of anything lmaooo
I agree with you , Dee. As a black man, especially. Our uncles did the “locker room talk” with us and some of us have passed that down to the following generations. Like Kendrick said, there’s a lot of black men that have been abused as kids and we hid it behind masculinity.
But I’m pretty sure your uncles didn’t ask you if you would svck another nga DlCK when you was 15yo, or if u would let a nga hit.. this is hella weird ngl
@@AWFUL_THINGS me personally no but I think that's the thing with a lot of this discourse that's getting misconstrued. Is it ok in this day in age or really was it ever, no. But at one point in time it was socially acceptable to hear this kind of talk in certain circles. The issue I think they're saying is it's not gonna go away anytime soon. The big problem with AK is he did it in camera on a public platform and it was seen by so many. He's even alluded to probably worse or similar behavior in his discord. Now once again is it right, no, but theirs people and groups like this who talk like this and joke like this. Should it be towards a minor, hell no, but the issue that made it blow up was taking the shit that should be said in private public and having the world see how foul it is in an era where it's no longer socially acceptable
The problem with Queenz Flip and even Ak himself, is that they kept trying to deflect by making it about the questions of "do you have a gf?" or "are you a virgin?" Those aren't the questions that caused all this backlash. Focus on the persistent line questioning involving Max that clearly made Nour uncomfortable. All it takes is common sense to know that behavior is weird and inappropriate, to say the least.
If holding your homies accountable is “betrayal” then so be it. What Ak did was weird as hell and there’s no justification for it. Yes, it happens a lot with other people but that doesn’t make it ok. Ak up to this point has seemed untouchable but now u see a lot of these corporations are starting to cut ties so Ak is definitely not above being cancelled lol. Mfs been on his head for years so a lot of this isn’t new but it took this incident for everything to hit the fan like most people who are accused of heinous stuff. Now will Twitch stand on that ban? We’ll see.
11:55 I completely agree, and its cause they’re desensitized and think everyone else is too sensitive. “It was just joke” your brain got you laughing at some weird stuff, that’s an issue. Time to talk to someone mature and real about that.
Suprised Joe even addressed since him and AK never talk about their situations in the media unless it’s with rappers. You should be able to criticize your friends and hold them accountable
As someone who’s watched AK for 14 years.. I promise you Dee, no one who actually watches him believes he was grooming that kid or even being malicious. They think he was making weird, stupid, immature jokes, and is too grown to be talking to a 15 year old like that, but that’s it. This is not me making excuses for him, this is me saying he’s not gonna be cancelled by his fanbase, and they probably aren’t going anywhere. He still pulls big numbers on streaming, and the only way he gets cancelled for this is if the companies themselves do it.
You're spot on Dee. There's definitely a double standard on this. Men are overprotective over girls then boys. At the end of the day we're talking about children boy or girl is wrong to try groom them or say any wild shit Ak said.
Dude said he did this to his son. First of all wtf. Second the kid was not someone he knows at all. It would be like him standing outside a middle school and asking those questions it’s disgusting
i didn’t even know they kept in contact. tbh i forgot they worked together 😭 akademiks’ constant “no one can touch me” attitude actually made me forget he used to be budden’s sidekick and he used to get punk’d constantly
I think a lot of Ak's aquaintances are keeping quiet because they don't want anyone digging into their past or bringing up their past transgressions, e.g., CG and his SA case
Flip plays the devil’s *advocate too much ngl 😭 like my guy just because we’re saying our stance and standing on it, doesn’t mean we don’t see/understand the other side. This ain’t the topic to play that role tho bruh, just let wrong be wrong. Because it’s WRONG. 😭
that’s not even true. people get cancelled all the time and i’m willing to bet it’s never the fans. why would a fan, who has seen your weirdo behavior on a regular, be upset now?
@@wakaman94 you misread the comment. he said people who ARENT his fans cant cancel him. Which is true because they were never putting money in his pockets and giving him attention to begin with. so the only people that can stop his popularity are people who actively consume his content or companies that fund it
@ i didn’t misread anything. why would his fans cancel him? they like him because of this weirdo shit. not supporting anymore is a lot different from canceling. canceling means sponsors are gone, career is gone. fans don’t do that.
As much as AK annoys me, 3 of my fav pop culture moments involved him. In no particular order When Erykah Badu told him he looks like Jerry the Mouse from Tom and Jerry. When the Migos turned life into s real life Dave Chappelle skit ready to scrap in their blouses cause AK couldn't hear the responses to his extra glazed interview and Joe walked off. And when Vic Mensa checked tf outta him for exploiting real life in Chicago as if it was just a means to an end. Ok and I forgot about Saucy Santana making him cry. That was also 😂 😃 😄 😁 🤣
As a 18 year old man I think either flip didn’t see the full clip of akademiks or he just acting ignorant because when It comes to the message he was trying to give i understand what he was saying especially coming from the hood and having to grow up around a lot of ogs around me that behaviour of “yo you not getting girls yet”, “you aint lost your virginity yet” was pretty common in my surroundings and I didn’t really think none of it but in that case ak was doing more than that he was talking sexually to a young boy saying “oh i can be inside of you”, “you wouldn’t let max fuck you” or some shit like that like that is not salvageable whatsoever he eventually clarify that he was not trying to defend ak but his point fell flat because his example wasn’t correlating with that situation. And let me say this i think a lot of people online enable that behaviour because of this “trolling” community and acting gay and being very provocative and weird as being funny whefe in some cases these people fall into a space where they start acting like that on a regular basic ive seen this a lot recently with my younger brother friends and even grown ass man saying some very out of pocket nonsense just to attract shcok value because they feel like they are funny i think it’s deeper than just “weird niggas exist” it’s like that guy who committed suicide being a creep which I wont touch into but the way society is being shaped in this new generation is very weird and i dont think its just happenstance
2:39 Joe's comment about freak off's before the Cassie video broke was: "we get freaky on this side" or something to that effect. I don't know what that means, but you might be on to something.
Don’t have to be taught not to speak to children inappropriately. But then you know u can’t teach common sense either. JAIL ! Didn’t Joe do sum inappropriate w/ his dog or alluded to something inappropriate. Ik he got sum stuff tht needs to come to light as well.
DR Disrespect is proof positive that FANS will keep supporting you even with your sponsorships dropping and everyone running from you after weird underage interactions. Remember....its people saying free Diddy to this day. Fans often show wreckless support more often now than a Decade or two ago
Fun fact I met Joe Budden once in like 2014 or something like that whenever he was on loan and hip hop and we were both walking in the same street he was with a woman, I was out with friends about to go to the bar and I was just like “oh snap that’s joe budden” and he just said “yeah”. lol he wasn’t extra. I will say, he’s much shorter than I thought lol. Not a munchkin or nothing but shorter than me and I’m only 5’11. Anyways he could still be a creep but at least back then he seemed CHill.
dee they asked way more than the gay shit they asked him about sex with girls and if he'd go after Max's sister so they're speaking to that aspect of the conversation
To be fair about Joe ignorance of the streaming community, he doesn’t give a F about them 😂 He’s said plenty of times he’s too old to keep up with the Lil’s and these Gen Z kids
Betrayed, tho? He's being a real friend, not a yes man to akademicks. Some lines can't be crossed. Plus, your readiness to blame ALL men for this behavior is disturbing ak's a weirdo, NOT all men foh
What Ak said on that stream was disgusting but why isnt anyone asking why that kid is on discord anyway? Where is his parent? I heard one of them passed but that just means the one left has double watch if anything. I hardly think kids should be on Social Media let alone a dark place like discord. People are weird. Discord is to discuss or have discourse with random people. Tell me are you really gonna allow your child to run free on the internet?
The more I think about what was said, and how it was said, that was grooming. If you want to be technical, it was verbal grooming. Like how domestic violence doesn't need to be physical, to be domestic violence. Verbal and psychological aspects of abuse needs to be taken more seriously.
@@MallyG-r4t if you think that you don’t know what grooming is. While trying to downplay it, he admitted to *always* talking to Nour like that. Grooming is simply building a relationship with a child while trying to normalize sexual ideas with them so they want to do sexual things. They did that and literally proposed idea of bringing women to SA him. That’s textbook grooming.
I’m gonna assume that everyone that supports Tory lanez has done some deviate stuff there way to comfortable with trying to throw this under the rug and hide it either because there involved or they covered for people
Budden, 44, was charged on Dec. 4 after a neighbor reportedly saw the internet personality standing naked in the hallway of their building at about 7 a.m. He is going to court for this and may face felony charges. Source: AOL today
Salute Dee!
Salute! Appreciate you reporting all the info 🙏🏾 lol
If you can’t keep it real and tell your friends when they on bullshit then they not your friends.
💯 All day!
Birds of a feather. If someone eats shit every day and sees another person eating shit, they won't think it's weird.
Dee cussing out Empressive for her mispronouncing something LMFAOOOOO
Which is funny because Dee calls Ramen Noodles "Roman Noodles."
A real friend calls you out - so well done because that is the reason most of these people get away with what they get away with.
exactly. people are always enabling tf out of their friend's bad behaviour. so much to the point that, when you're not a 'yes person', these same 'friends' come at you. anyone who doesn't call out their friends WITHOUT sugarcoating is weak to me
Isn’t he the same man accused of beast-iality tho 😂?
the fact that so many men equate holding each other accountable to "betrayal" just shows that a lot of them are too weak to have anyone other than 'yes men' around them. even the way that they'll sugarcoat their words and make excuses for each other. and the one guy who doesn't is seen as the problem. i've witnessed this so many times in my life. it's like they need someone to start the bandwagon of TRULY holding someone else accountable for them to be able to jump on board. but these are the same ones who have the nerve to consider themselves 'the leaders' of anything lmaooo
True some men dont know how to take Ls
@@maurice482390 too many. And it’s not even about taking Ls. It’s about holding each other accountable. A lot of them don’t know how to do either.
I agree with you , Dee. As a black man, especially. Our uncles did the “locker room talk” with us and some of us have passed that down to the following generations.
Like Kendrick said, there’s a lot of black men that have been abused as kids and we hid it behind masculinity.
But I’m pretty sure your uncles didn’t ask you if you would svck another nga DlCK when you was 15yo, or if u would let a nga hit.. this is hella weird ngl
@ The heterosexual questions weird too. Why you just making it about the gay stuff?
@@AWFUL_THINGS me personally no but I think that's the thing with a lot of this discourse that's getting misconstrued. Is it ok in this day in age or really was it ever, no. But at one point in time it was socially acceptable to hear this kind of talk in certain circles. The issue I think they're saying is it's not gonna go away anytime soon. The big problem with AK is he did it in camera on a public platform and it was seen by so many. He's even alluded to probably worse or similar behavior in his discord. Now once again is it right, no, but theirs people and groups like this who talk like this and joke like this. Should it be towards a minor, hell no, but the issue that made it blow up was taking the shit that should be said in private public and having the world see how foul it is in an era where it's no longer socially acceptable
@@DarkboyDranzer”should be said in private”? Sir…?😳
@@DarkboyDranzer”should be said in private”? Sir… I sincerely hope you’re not saying that conversation would be appropriate if it was said offline.
I CACKLED WHEN U BROUGHT YO EMPRESSIVE😭😭😭😭
Friends hold you accountable. See nothing wrong.
The problem with Queenz Flip and even Ak himself, is that they kept trying to deflect by making it about the questions of "do you have a gf?" or "are you a virgin?" Those aren't the questions that caused all this backlash. Focus on the persistent line questioning involving Max that clearly made Nour uncomfortable. All it takes is common sense to know that behavior is weird and inappropriate, to say the least.
If holding your homies accountable is “betrayal” then so be it. What Ak did was weird as hell and there’s no justification for it. Yes, it happens a lot with other people but that doesn’t make it ok. Ak up to this point has seemed untouchable but now u see a lot of these corporations are starting to cut ties so Ak is definitely not above being cancelled lol. Mfs been on his head for years so a lot of this isn’t new but it took this incident for everything to hit the fan like most people who are accused of heinous stuff. Now will Twitch stand on that ban? We’ll see.
12:00 Dee clocking tea as always, because this is exactly why boys don't feel like they can talk about creepy shit like this
If I caught my homie talkin to a kid like that he ain’t the homie
11:55 I completely agree, and its cause they’re desensitized and think everyone else is too sensitive.
“It was just joke” your brain got you laughing at some weird stuff, that’s an issue. Time to talk to someone mature and real about that.
Suprised Joe even addressed since him and AK never talk about their situations in the media unless it’s with rappers. You should be able to criticize your friends and hold them accountable
It’s not a betrayal for someone to hold their friend ACCOUNTABLE
They’re all Diddy Juniors.
Unfortunately this will probably die over in a week or so. AK still had 5K on RUclips yesterday.
because no one believes he’s a groomer or a pedo come on bro 😂
Tbf, his biggest audience is on RUclips
As someone who’s watched AK for 14 years.. I promise you Dee, no one who actually watches him believes he was grooming that kid or even being malicious.
They think he was making weird, stupid, immature jokes, and is too grown to be talking to a 15 year old like that, but that’s it.
This is not me making excuses for him, this is me saying he’s not gonna be cancelled by his fanbase, and they probably aren’t going anywhere. He still pulls big numbers on streaming, and the only way he gets cancelled for this is if the companies themselves do it.
Agreed
Soooo, basically you're saying that there are a legion of WEIRDOS (like yourself)who still chooses to support him. Ok, got it.
Scru Face Jean just dropped a diss to Akademiks “Akadiddy” and it’s 🔥
Dee Shanell is like the big sis I always wanted 💕
Betrays ?? … he, he did wrong though lol
I read this in what I think your voice sounds like 😂
@ lol 😂
Dee acting like AK not getting his twitch back lol. The chipmunk’s biggest audience is on RUclips.
I'm getting 2nd hand embarrassment by these dudes. Wrong is wrong. Nothing more, nothing less
Yeah, there's usually morality clauses in contracts that companies can use to kill a contract if you do something out of pocket
Unfortunately I don’t think he’ll be fully done with
You're spot on Dee. There's definitely a double standard on this. Men are overprotective over girls then boys. At the end of the day we're talking about children boy or girl is wrong to try groom them or say any wild shit Ak said.
And they’re over protective because they know exactly how they were getting down OR how their homeboys got down at that age.
Dude said he did this to his son. First of all wtf. Second the kid was not someone he knows at all. It would be like him standing outside a middle school and asking those questions it’s disgusting
Him and Ak having an agreement doesn’t surprise me at alllll, and Joe acting dumb to what it means to be banned is hilarious to me 🤦🏽♀️
lol are you speaking english in the beginning 😂
He not gonna get cancelled but as adults real life shit what they gonna do
It's festibals from now on for dee 😅😅😅😅😅
i didn’t even know they kept in contact. tbh i forgot they worked together 😭 akademiks’ constant “no one can touch me” attitude actually made me forget he used to be budden’s sidekick and he used to get punk’d constantly
I think a lot of Ak's aquaintances are keeping quiet because they don't want anyone digging into their past or bringing up their past transgressions, e.g., CG and his SA case
Throwin Empressive under the bus was nasty work 😂
Flip plays the devil’s *advocate too much ngl 😭 like my guy just because we’re saying our stance and standing on it, doesn’t mean we don’t see/understand the other side. This ain’t the topic to play that role tho bruh, just let wrong be wrong. Because it’s WRONG. 😭
I’m ready to get flip tf outta here too, man.
He meant that he cant be cancelled by people that are not his fans, that is objectively true.
Yeah
that’s not even true. people get cancelled all the time and i’m willing to bet it’s never the fans.
why would a fan, who has seen your weirdo behavior on a regular, be upset now?
@@wakaman94 you misread the comment. he said people who ARENT his fans cant cancel him. Which is true because they were never putting money in his pockets and giving him attention to begin with. so the only people that can stop his popularity are people who actively consume his content or companies that fund it
@ i didn’t misread anything. why would his fans cancel him? they like him because of this weirdo shit. not supporting anymore is a lot different from canceling. canceling means sponsors are gone, career is gone. fans don’t do that.
@@wakaman94 not supporting him because of weird behavior is the same as canceling him and again you are basically making the same point as us...
Dee love the Festibals
Im ngl as long as you have a certain amount of fans, you won't be fully canceled. People still be entertaining edp bumass online
I wish you could react Ak talking to imdontai. He literally was saying that it isn’t predatory because it was a boy and not a girl
Ak is trash for that comment
All Ak had to do was take accountability. That kid embarrassed them with his maturity.
As much as AK annoys me, 3 of my fav pop culture moments involved him.
In no particular order
When Erykah Badu told him he looks like Jerry the Mouse from Tom and Jerry.
When the Migos turned life into s real life Dave Chappelle skit ready to scrap in their blouses cause AK couldn't hear the responses to his extra glazed interview and Joe walked off.
And when Vic Mensa checked tf outta him for exploiting real life in Chicago as if it was just a means to an end.
Ok and I forgot about Saucy Santana making him cry. That was also 😂 😃 😄 😁 🤣
As a 18 year old man I think either flip didn’t see the full clip of akademiks or he just acting ignorant because when It comes to the message he was trying to give i understand what he was saying especially coming from the hood and having to grow up around a lot of ogs around me that behaviour of “yo you not getting girls yet”, “you aint lost your virginity yet” was pretty common in my surroundings and I didn’t really think none of it but in that case ak was doing more than that he was talking sexually to a young boy saying “oh i can be inside of you”, “you wouldn’t let max fuck you” or some shit like that like that is not salvageable whatsoever he eventually clarify that he was not trying to defend ak but his point fell flat because his example wasn’t correlating with that situation. And let me say this i think a lot of people online enable that behaviour because of this “trolling” community and acting gay and being very provocative and weird as being funny whefe in some cases these people fall into a space where they start acting like that on a regular basic ive seen this a lot recently with my younger brother friends and even grown ass man saying some very out of pocket nonsense just to attract shcok value because they feel like they are funny i think it’s deeper than just “weird niggas exist” it’s like that guy who committed suicide being a creep which I wont touch into but the way society is being shaped in this new generation is very weird and i dont think its just happenstance
2:39 Joe's comment about freak off's before the Cassie video broke was: "we get freaky on this side" or something to that effect.
I don't know what that means, but you might be on to something.
Don’t have to be taught not to speak to children inappropriately. But then you know u can’t teach common sense either. JAIL ! Didn’t Joe do sum inappropriate w/ his dog or alluded to something inappropriate. Ik he got sum stuff tht needs to come to light as well.
They don't have that pack. The guy in the video says it seemed like they had a packed
Joe , the other dude and those who refuse to speak on this because of their friendship with ak , are sick. Hold him accountable.
I’m looking at flip side ways tho
DR Disrespect is proof positive that FANS will keep supporting you even with your sponsorships dropping and everyone running from you after weird underage interactions.
Remember....its people saying free Diddy to this day. Fans often show wreckless support more often now than a Decade or two ago
That whole episode was gross. There are a lot of predators out here and it’s scary.
Everyone who describe Joe calling shit what it is as “betrayal” is sus tbh.
Fun fact I met Joe Budden once in like 2014 or something like that whenever he was on loan and hip hop and we were both walking in the same street he was with a woman, I was out with friends about to go to the bar and I was just like “oh snap that’s joe budden” and he just said “yeah”. lol he wasn’t extra. I will say, he’s much shorter than I thought lol. Not a munchkin or nothing but shorter than me and I’m only 5’11. Anyways he could still be a creep but at least back then he seemed CHill.
Sometimes: DJ Ak is one the most influential voices in the hip hop culture.
Other times: DJ Ak is a streamer. I don't concern myself with that stuff.
11:28 LITERALLY
10:08 it's not even the same thing.. once again making excuses
It doesn't have to be 'new' for it to be wrong either tf
12:03 heavy on this
dee they asked way more than the gay shit they asked him about sex with girls and if he'd go after Max's sister so they're speaking to that aspect of the conversation
They was both doing too much tiptoeing for me you ain't the only one Queen
PROTECT THE CHILDREN!!!
😂 @ Dee Shanell you know dang on well Joe is a weirdo.
It's illegal in Cali
To be fair about Joe ignorance of the streaming community, he doesn’t give a F about them 😂
He’s said plenty of times he’s too old to keep up with the Lil’s and these Gen Z kids
Joe didn't even talk about the topic they were trying to steer it away from the situation how dont ppl see that
No they wasn’t
Betrayed, tho? He's being a real friend, not a yes man to akademicks. Some lines can't be crossed. Plus, your readiness to blame ALL men for this behavior is disturbing ak's a weirdo, NOT all men foh
What Ak said on that stream was disgusting but why isnt anyone asking why that kid is on discord anyway? Where is his parent? I heard one of them passed but that just means the one left has double watch if anything. I hardly think kids should be on Social Media let alone a dark place like discord. People are weird. Discord is to discuss or have discourse with random people.
Tell me are you really gonna allow your child to run free on the internet?
It’s not true chigs just be talking
YES !! hes dumb... very 🎯💯🥴🤦🏾♂️🤣
I dont think so i never got that vibe of joe
The more I think about what was said, and how it was said, that was grooming. If you want to be technical, it was verbal grooming. Like how domestic violence doesn't need to be physical, to be domestic violence. Verbal and psychological aspects of abuse needs to be taken more seriously.
It’s not grooming. Y’all gotta use words in it’s context
@IAmGrootFrom63rd Yeah I agreed it's grooming.
@IAmGrootFrom63rd Maybe I did a poor job at explaining, but I'm trying to highlight how despite him grooming verbally, it is still grooming
That wasn’t grooming. It’s simply inappropriate
@@MallyG-r4t if you think that you don’t know what grooming is. While trying to downplay it, he admitted to *always* talking to Nour like that.
Grooming is simply building a relationship with a child while trying to normalize sexual ideas with them so they want to do sexual things. They did that and literally proposed idea of bringing women to SA him. That’s textbook grooming.
Why yall mad at Joe for being biased? Yall was being biased when jay z had that case so who cares
Drake is glad the heat's off of him and DJ Akedemiks is off his hair!
He gets a breather until the Super Bowl 💀
@maadmontee Yup. Once Not Like Us plays on the Superbowl it's over for him! 😂
But dababy was because of corporations though, Groomademiks fans actually defending him.
4:30 lmfao him saying streamers aren’t “his region”….bad excuse. Joe we’ve seen you speak on streamers several time 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And people called him unaware…
and almost every single time he did he had to apologize cause he didnt really know what was going on
They did a bad job addressing this. And Flip always tip toes around these topics. They stray off topic and just argue the wrong points
Who cares
“Festibal” the fact Dee still remember empressive saying that 🤣🤣🤣
11:12 He's acting like AK was giving him adult advice on women
Akademiks subs are going down very slowly. He went from 906k & climbing to 901k & declining. We’ll see where it goes.
No where lol
@ one can only hope. His ego needs a chin check lmao.
I notice that too
It's not every grown man out here with these sick thoughts
I agree
I’m gonna assume that everyone that supports Tory lanez has done some deviate stuff there way to comfortable with trying to throw this under the rug and hide it either because there involved or they covered for people
Lol please
Or they have different opinions
Absolutely
I can definitely see Akademiks going on a rant on Joe’s past
He literally agreed with Joe on his stream yesterday
Unlikely
Not happening
Groomademiks
Budden, 44, was charged on Dec. 4 after a neighbor reportedly saw the internet personality standing naked in the hallway of their building at about 7 a.m. He is going to court for this and may face felony charges. Source: AOL today
What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
What does this have to do with anything? Lol and this case got dismissed
Charges are dropped because he actually suffers from sleepwalking.
Budden wasn’t this quick to call out Diddy tho lmfao very telling
He actually did lol
Joe has multiple videos on the Diddy stuff lol
@ not immediately. At first he said “let’s see how this plays out”
@@BiggaVeli-u5j yeah but not at first.
@@phreshaliashe did after the raid
i dont think they listened to the full thing.
Long as I remember Joe never really like Ak to begin with lol
You’re probably out of date lol
7:32 Like look at what happend to Mr beast
First