TOTAL DISASTER !! (Stranded) Paris to London by ferry and train just like before Eurotunnel opened.
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2022
- You can travel between Paris and London, via Eurotunnel in 2hr 20 min. For a bit of nostalga I decided to travel via SNCF, P&O Ferries and Southeastern Trains. A little more time consuming, but it would be fun, wouldn't it? Actually, no.
//// UPDATE - after writing to P&O Ferries I received an email acknowledging the problem, but refusing compensation. You can see this update at • Video ////
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00:03:15 Gare du Nord
00:04:30 Trains to Calais
00:08:50 Calais Ville
00:14:25 Calais Ferry Terminal
00:17:20 P&O Ferry
00:21:35 Dover
00:22:35 Canterbury
00:27:25 Southeastern Trains
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How does this guy doesn’t have 100k subs the things he does for RUclips is unbelievable
I totally agree 100%! :)
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Agreed.
I remember turning up at Calais about 15 years ago to find there were no more shuttle buses to the port and, having walked miles through that grotty industrial estate, discovered there were no foot passengers after about 7pm. Had to hang around in the ferry terminal and bribe someone to take me in their car! It's true, foot passengers are now treated as third class citizens.
I've had to do that in the past too.
If you need to do that journey today, just head down the coast a ways down the beach, plenty of boats heading to the UK. you even get an escort across!
@Falafel I think I saw him (scott) at westway retail Park in Cumbernauld
@Dimitri Medrividev there's already the eurotunnel
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I think you have the best grimace on the planet, the word grimace was created just for that expression, great video, it will help if you show on a map periodically, so those living elsewhere can follow along
Dieppe to Newhaven is very decent ferry service both with and without (foot) a motor. It's takes about 4 hours but it's so much more relaxed than Dover/Calais crossing and very easy to do on public transport
Indeed. This is something I plan to do during the summer.
These videos are a valuable resource for transport methods that are still available but highlight the various degrees of efficiency on each segment of a journey. Great videos.
One of my favourite videos! Ha the more your trip goes belly up, the more I enjoy it :) Sorry Scott! Really interesting stuff though, and now I know why when I tried to book a DFDS foot pax ferry, why the website wasn't working for me! Strange though eh, 'Dover Calais' is such a famous route, well, that is now firmly in the past! Well done Scott, stuff of nightmares :O
You and Scott have definitly become firm favourites with me. You both come across as genuine folks, and that, for me anyway goes a long way. Keep it up. to quote a restaurant I never use. I.m lovin it! 😂
Am I bad O am like what the bejesus is going on with Scott. Steve and Scott and my fave as I am biased to my fellow aberdeenshire fellow Steve. South aberdeenshire versus north aberdeenshire (me). I love you too scott though
@@DavidPeacock1972 Haha Thanks so much David! :)
@@ametrinemoon Cheers! We really need to do a travel challenge together eh!?
@@steve-marsh I can't drive LOL. Could do one you drive and I take the bus LOL
Worse places to be delayed in than the south of England..Canterbury looks really lovely.
from the bright side you gonna remember this trip. you always forget the good trips but always remeber the bad ones/different ones.
One of the best travel vlogs I’ve seen on RUclips. Invaluable information. Disappointed to hear Irish ferries don’t take foot passengers on that route. Thanks for all your hard work Scott.
Great vlog! I think I can top your ferry problems :) Took a bus from Athens to London. As if that wasn’t bad enough, there was a horrific storm in the channel. Our luggage was piled outside the bus for customs and the bus beside ours flipped over and landed on it. We disembarked on our bums down a ramp seesawing up and down with the sea splashing up at us. We finally got out of the port and were immediately hit by a car - major incident involving the police. Nightmare. Loving your vlogs. I would rather watch it than live it these days.
After that bus incident you should have taken the clue that today wasn't meant to be... :D
There is a saying that an accident rarely comes alone :D
As a fellow 'seasoned' traveller, I know it requires the patience of a saint. But this, was ridiculous. Fair play for keeping, on the face of it, upbeat. I think that by Dover, I'd have suffered a major and catastrophic sense of humour malfunction.
Another fantastic video and I feel your pain on that journey. I have family from Calais and used to visit frequently as a foot passenger. I remember the big booze warehouses like EastEnders used to pay for the ferry crossing on minimum orders, and when British companies like Tesco expanded to cite Europe shopping centre, they also ran busses to the centre to the port. When France was using the franc it was economically astute for Essex and Kent residents to go across and do a weekly shop at the local Carrefour supermarket, you could save a fortune. But since 2008 and the decline of the exchange rate,Calais has become an extremely deprived area and a thorn in the French governments side.
I think if they had the option, they would close Calais port and wipe the town off the face of the French map. The changes they have made to foot passenger access in my opinion is not accidental but rather deliberate. The government are doing everything within its power to ruin Calais. Which is a shame as Calais has a lovely town centre and some fantastic beaches. Within the next ten years I wouldn't be surprised I wouldn't be surprised if they made foot passengers obselete. But fair play to you for sticking the journey
Historically, Calais (Caliss it was pronounced) was the "property" of the English Monarch. Perhaps France could return it....
@@alanmon2690 the way It is now, I wouldn't want it even if the French paid us to take it back. It's a lifeless shell full of abandoned industrial units that once housed great industry
@wimblewomble you actually think the French would get rid of calais if they could what are you on can I have some please
Reminds me of being a kid in the 70s and 80s My parents didn't drive and there weren't cheap flights. . Train from Ayrshire to London and on to Calais Maritime and to Paris. Paris travel service used to do the whole package.
We also used to do the same but to Ostend and then the tram up to Oostduinkerke in the early 70s.
Loved the looks on your face when there was a delay. I could feel your frustration...we all could! This was an enjoyable video and I watched to the end. You're calmer than I would have probably been. Anyway, well done!
Thanks for mentioning the P&O situation and the scab labour, Scott.
It’s a little sad to see people still using them, to be honest.
I feel you mate, I was stuck trying to get home from Berwick last Tuesday (the hottest day).
I ended up sticking Carlise, no trains, no coaches, no buses anywhere useful, no hotels (they were all full) no uber, and no taxis. It was a ridiculous situation. The staff at Carlise just said nothing they could do, and locked themselves in the office.
When it goes wrong in the UK it goes really wrong!
Thanks, Scott for your video, In the 80s and 90s before Eurostar. I used to travel from Dun Laoghaire via London to Brussels and on to where my train ticket would take me. At the time it was the old-style Interrail ticket valid for 1 month. I do remember the delays etc.
Definitely give the Newhaven - Dieppe route a go, it’s a very pleasant experience compared to going via Calais
Agree 100%
Yeah I can imagine for foot traffic at least.
Made me nostalgic for the 1980s and that journey……but only for a while! Great video.
Back in the days when I travelled, it was the unplanned events, the glitches in the system, that made a trip interesting. So I guess I would have found your journey utterly fascinating! I'm sure that you appreciate the positives in your adventure, the new places you saw and the new people you met. Thank you for posting this, and for being so flexible!
This was definitely above and beyond the call of duty. You're a star for keeping going and telling us as it is. On a different topic I've just spent 8 days battling ScotRail with a Spirit of Scotland pass, kept looking out for you at Paisley Gilmour Street, it looked superb. Looking forward to your next adventure
If I could give you a standing ovation I would. I’m still on the edge of my seat. Presumably you did in fact make it to the overnight bus to Glasgow. Phew. (Love your vids. 🥰)
After living in Canterbury for 9 years in the 90's, its better to be stranded in Canterbury than Dover from my experience. Nice to see some old haunts.
Many times took the P&O ferry, as foot passenger, Dover to Calais. Then walk to Calais Ville for a train to Paris. Then metro to Gare du Montparnasse then on to La Baule. Work for Southeastern so it's free all the way. Never any hitches. Always found SNCF a top service. No problems with P&O. Tried the Eurostar too as alternative since 1995. Haven't been since 2018. Heard many problems with P&O since then. Occasionally some minor issues with travelling but always with a solution. Nice video. Transport business' need to take note of your issues and improve their service since this is now free for all to see. Excellent.
Another great adventure Thank you SCOTT for for taking us along 😁😁😁💟👍
Scott. Here's one for you. My flight back from Gibraltar to Glasgow has just been cancelled. You could say I'm stuck between a rock and a very hard place.
Another great journey, have to be honest Canterbury looks stunning, not a place I’d ever thought of
Many thanx for sharing this vlog Scott. Very much enjoy your travels & invaluable experience of travelling & tourism. Please keep up your fantastic work. 🙏
Well done for sticking with the journey! Sat watching on a cold snowy winters day….. keep up the good work.
Also your channel is now my favourite on RUclips. Because you really give good advice on how to get to places rather than just posing next to tourist sights
I love meeting random strangers when traveling. Such great fun.
That was a terrific video Scott. Interesting and funny. It would have to been the most frustrating of all your journeys . Keep up the great videos
In France you look for the train number NOT the time of the train as in the UK . Love this video!
Fast becoming one of my most looked forward to channels.....being often the organiser for trips for myself and friends i share your dislike of short transfer times and the lack of easy to find essential information which can transform an adventure into a stress fest
Your videos are always worth watching. Keep up the good work. I'm currently suffering with a cold so watching your videos is helping alot
You have the patience of a saint. I would have either gone hobo are redhead mode. You have opped your game.., editing skills the tunes you used, and your banter. a big fat sub, Class. beware Bauld and Bankrupt x
I feel for you, when it starts bad it very rarely gets better. Thank you for posting
What a epic journey that was! You deserve a medal Scott! Safe travels
Thanks very much. Although I felt like just pulling my hear out, I realised I had to keep the camera running because it would make an interesting adventure.
A nicer (and possibly cheaper if booked in advance) way to travel might have Paris St-Lazare - Dieppe - Newhaven - London Victoria.I used to go to Paris from London a lot in the 70s and that route was, imo, the nicest way. But the trains used to go side by side with the ferries at both ports then, not so now.
The cheapest way then was by Hoverlloyd coach and hovercraft from Victoria Coach Station to outside the Gare Du Nord, later the Quai D'Orsay I think. The worst way to go was the somewhat antiquated Night Ferry via Dover-Dunkirk. Not only tatty train interiors, but also noisy and slow as you might get a considerable delay using the old tidal lock gates at Dover (which allowed the train coaches to be loaded on the level). Other routes I tried were London Charing Cross - Dover- Calais - Paris Gare du Nord (meh) and also Folkestone - Bologne, both on the boat and by seacat later on.
I much prefer the Dieppe route, and Dieppe's a lovely little town. Sadly the shuttle bus to the port in Dieppe no longer runs, but it's a pleasant 30m walk into town.
The Dover West ferry's with rails in Kept the hazardous goods off the passenger ferry back in the day....
Good information, thank you.
And a gas turbine train from Boulogne Town to Paris...
Agree Newhaven-Dieppe is the way to go. The old port railway stations literally backed on to the ferry dock, sadly all gone now. As miserable as driving on British roads can be, the stress of multiple public transport connections makes travel a lottery.
I've had travel experiences very similar to this - your dry humour is much appreciated
Thanks for your comment. People say I either have a dry sense of humour or no sense of humour at all. At least I'm able to laugh at myself and my situations.
@@PlanesTrainsEverything My uncle is Scottish and he's the same. Humour to get through the absurdity of life, especially in bonny auld Scotland
Hi Scott, what a nightmare journey, had a few of those in my time! Trouble is, it did make a very entertaining video for us all. Keep up the good work, really enjoy watching your alternate style travel vlogs, great stuff!
The joy of the journey sometimes outweighs the destination!
Like the journeys... expect upsets ..
And keep taking them in your stride 👍🏴
Thanks for sharing a travel video when things go wrong. I found it educational!
This is a fantastic video - thanks for going through all of this for our benefit!
Great to see my home town on your videos. Wish I had known you were stuck in Canterbury, could have offered you a place to stay.
This is a useful video as it shows how a pro works through these issues. Issue’s the every person faces daily. At least you did not have everyone’s favourite delay- leaves on the line.
Quite the captivating video! At least your bad trip didn’t go to waste - it resulted in one of your best offerings yet.
Interesting video , despite the fact it was a hassle for you . To me , it would be an adventure. I enjoy trips like this . Cheers Scott and keep up the great work.
Loved this video. Enjoyed it so much, I have watched it three times now!
That was a bit of a disaster. As you were over an hour late into Victoria you should be able to get some money back from South Eastern on the delay repay part of their website.
Great watch as always. Really enjoyed. Thanks!
Oh my - what a journey. Thank you for the very helpful information and for undertaking the ordeal!
Brilliant, always enjoy your adventures
Very entertaining as usual. I really enjoy all your videos. Many thanks.
As painful as this journey was, I'm glad you got to explore Canterbury. I love visiting Canterbury, it's great for sightseeing and it's just as good for a pub crawl! The latter happens for too often for me 😄😄
Great video. I remember traveling from Bordeaux Paris Dieppe Newhaven London years ago. Never again. Good luck with your next trip.
i used to love a "dover day out" back in the day ticket from BR train to Dover Priory transfer to ship and back and don't forget the duty free good times! nice reminder thanks
Fell onto this vid by chance, but loved it (and subbed).
One thing I would say though, as someone who commutes a lot on trains. The days before and after a strike is often worse than strike days, and there are ALWAYS problems!
A great video Scott sorry you had all those delays. Paul
Very true about modern ferry ports Scott. When walking from Hamilton Square station in Birkenhead to the Stena terminal, the pedestrian walkway appears to end and you need to have an extra set of eyes to dodge all of the trucks. Coming from Ireland you get a reception committee from the Merseyside constabulary which the car passengers don't get.
Made my day this video love your content keep up the good work 👍
Go further back 40yrs to the Folkestone Boulogne ferry with the old Dock terminal, back when you boarded up a ramp! Dad fumed when the return boat was late and we got stuck outside the port.
Well done :) great video and bought back a lot of memories form when I used to make that trip :) thank you for saving me from having to make the trip myself to see it :)
I never recall the trains back in the 70's and 80's maybe 90's suffereing such delays etc.Well done Scott for persevering.
Ah, but did you get home? The things you do for entertainment Scott. A thumbs up from me as enjoyed watching the steam coming out your head during all those delays....lol
Scott, try Brompton & Train for those of us who no longer wish to fly. Although Brompton's are an expensive investment, they are available to rent. Brompton also do decent load carrying bags that are built to fit straight onto the front of the rental bikes. So your initial investment is just the bag and off you go.
Really enjoying your vids. Although your last journey timed out I admired your honesty in sharing. I have just missed connecting trains myself but I think mine's were tamer affairs than yours. Anyway there was still great footage of Paris and the countryside. It maybe wasn't fun for you but you still made it a fun vid to watch. Thankfully you live to fight another day & I'll be watching. Cheers.
Catching up with the videos Scott. This was painful/frustrating to watch - can't imagine how painful/frustrating to film. thanks for sticking it out
Very entertaining!
I like these kind of journeys, but I admit that the stress with connections can kill you. Having to walk long distances against the clock would have been too much for me :D
Oh Dude. Being railway, I've been doing this journey/route for 30+years. I've seen the changes. The SNCF closed Calais Maritime, loved that station, while I was in France.
In fact now I think about it, on a school trip in 68, we got off the ferry in Dieppe and straight onto the train on the dockside.
"All the good times are passed and gone, all the good times are o'er.......
And in the last 10 years, despite my travel privileges, I prefer to drive. Use my privs for local trips.
I went from Poland to the UK by coach for an organized package tour and loved the ferry trip (Irish Ferries:). The Dover cliffs are spectacular. It's a pity it's so difficult to get on the ferry when you are on foot but so much exciting.
Must of been so difficult and frustrating,was good to watch from a social point of view.
I enjoy and appreciate your efforts sam in Yorkshire
Great video I really enjoyed watching.No surprise you got nothing back from p and o considering how they treated their employees.Safe Travels!
Cheers Scott, much appreciated
This has reminded me of when the Trotters got stuck in Margate when their coach blew up on the jolly boys outing. 😀😀The trains were on strike and they missed the last bus and had to book into that spooky hotel. At least Del Boy got to meet Raquel then. 😀😀😀 That was the 80’s, things don’t change!!
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I sympathise completely! In June, I travelled by train from my home in France to Coventry--ten and a half hours. return trip--thirty-one hours! Eurostar was late to arrive in Paris, and I had to spend the night there. I am considering walking the next time...
Great video - well done ! You are an inspiration
U truly went through a journey, but I love how U tried to stay optimistic and showed some beautiful buildings etc.
Nothing like a good bit of chaos to remember the journey lol
Wow, what a mammoth journey! Sure you won't forget this one anytime soon!
Great watch Scott..feel exhausted watching it..
Please try VICTORIA- LEWES - NEWHAVEN TOWN DFDS/ TRANSMANCHE FERRY (PLEASE NOTE RESTRICTED CA PPL CAPACITY) DIEPPE - ROUEN RIVE GAUCHE -PARIS...
Love that crossing, and I really like the town of Dieppe as well
Does it take foot passengers?
@@s125ish Yes, but check if overnight sailings do as well
The Newhaven ferry has a reduced capacity so foot passengers are subject to space... often available at very short notice ..
I always get so stressed when those types of changes happen. Which is stupid really, it's almost always leisure travel so doesn't matter. You seemed to keep it together a lot better than I would have done.
The foot passenger thing is a shame, ferries would be great if you have the time.
Love your travel videos !
Hmm. I used to do this route as a student 30 years ago. I was planning to do a nostalgic rerun next year but your experience has put me right off. Nice to see some familiar sights in your video though so thank you for your service!
It seems that you could get a train to Dieppe and then a ferry to Newhaven.
If you check the Newhaven dieppe Ferry times they do not have many Ferry times, would certainly involve a hotel in Dieppe. The other crossing gets to Newhaven too late at night to get train to London.
I love your channel. when I was a kid in the 90s we jumped trains and ferries between Ireland, France and anywhere else. We called the TGV the Train Grande Vagabond, once you could get on, the next stop south of Paris was Lyon. It's a class way to travel. A great current ferry is Dublin to Cherbourg, Dublin port then turns south, all the way down the coast with great views, then swing around Cornwall, a few pints and a night's sleep (expensive cabins though), arrive in Cherbourg at 11am. 19 hr fantastic ferry.
New here , and i am going to bing watch this channel, i love t!!! Thanks Scott!
Haha, absolutely loved the Irish Ferries caption at 19:10 😂😂
What incredible staying power, to have to put up with all of these frustrations. Well done to you, not something I would like to go through.
How you keep your cool, I do not know.
Thanks for a great video.
❤️❤️ glad you made it home
I hope you claimed your Delay Repay from Southeastern! You could also have gone Canterbury West->Ashford International->St. Pancras for a short walk to Euston, but at greater expense because of the high-speed trains on HS1.
While the journey went sideways and was not ideal, it made for one of the best videos yet!
I was thinking of having a go at this Scott but think I will travel on my vespa ...great video and super informative mate
Funny this coming up as I was in France last week and Canterbury on Saturday. Oh and I lived in Medway for 25 years!
I did this trip in the opposite direction quite a few years ago now. First train from Orpington to London for the first foot passenger crossing to Calais. Then the train from Calais to Boulogne and on to Paris for the last Eurostar back to London. Lovely day and had a cracking meal outside Gare du Nord.
You posted this video just in time for me! I've been researching this exact thing because of the recent troubles with Eurostar. We're flying to Paris from the U.S. next week and have tickets on the Eurostar to London 6 days later. Fingers crossed all goes well, but I do like to have a backup plan. I had no trouble at all taking the ferry across the channel when I was in university in London in 1993 (no chunnel yet) and onwards to visit a friend in Vienna and then back again to Victoria. I have no idea how I figured out what to do back then before the internet!
Eeh Scott, if it wasn’t for bad luck you’d have had no luck at all in this video. Thanks for sharing it with us warts and all - a great watch but must have been torture to make!
Thank you Scott for the video 📹.
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If victor meldrew had a very kind, but still occasionally grumpy cousin, who went travelling! Thanku for your efforts.. luv the channel