Sennheiser HD560S vs Sennheiser HD600 Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024

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  • @JonnyTenebrous
    @JonnyTenebrous 3 года назад +41

    Great video! My HD600s are almost 21 years old (with pads/cables/headband refreshed regularly) - they've probably been on my head for as many hours as not, and feel like "home". I now also own the HD 560S and my experiences with them mirror your own. However, I will certainly be keeping - and using - my 560S because they're the closest HPs I've ever found to a "portable" (around the house) set of 600s. With the 600s I'm always tethered to a DAC/Amp - usually when sat at my desk. With the HD 560s being much easier to drive while maintaining a reasonable level of quality, I can at long last get very good quality through my digital devices via small portable amp... or even just direct w/out amp is acceptable if I just want to chill out in the garden/couch/etc and not deal w/ cables. The 560S are going to be a great companion set to the 600s!

    • @bagelbytes69420
      @bagelbytes69420 2 года назад +2

      According to Dankpod's review of the Fiio BTR5 portable DAC/AMP, you can run the HD600's off that with no discernable loss in clarity of volume. PRetty amazing considering the DAC is only rated for 120 Ohms of power I believe.

    • @jonnytenebrous1113
      @jonnytenebrous1113 2 года назад

      @@srjt9000 Nothing high-end, by any means. I'm using a USB-powered "Creative Sound BlasterX G6". It's reasonably priced, it pushes the HD600 with plenty of headroom left (I keep the volume in the 20-30% range the vast majority of the time, in fact), and there is no coloration to the sound which I can detect. You can disable any processing entirely if you want, and use it strictly as a DAC/Amp, or you can use it as an external soundcard for your PC with options to process the audio in various ways. I use it in both configurations, depending on the source. For example, you can connect an external audio source while still using it as a soundcard simultaneously. It also includes a built-in HRTF to convert surround sound sources to binaural headphone output... which can be useful for gaming & films (though I tend to disable this and use "Dolby for Headphones" instead). Suits my needs very well.

    • @jonnytenebrous1113
      @jonnytenebrous1113 2 года назад

      @@srjt9000 Hope it works well for you! I had to update my G6 firmware to resolve some minor issues that I experienced when I first received it about 2 years ago. Hopefully a new one will arrive fully-up-to-date :).

    • @jonnytenebrous1113
      @jonnytenebrous1113 Год назад

      @@divzed3737 Hi, TBH today is the first time I've tried my HD 560S with my G6, as I bought these specifically to be my "away-from-an-amp HD600-lites". Also, bear in mind that my ears themselves are no longer "audiophile grade" in that, in getting older, I can no longer hear anything over 12khz and have mild tinnitus so I don't crank the volume so much anymore. I do not use the stock cable, but rather the Sennheiser HD569 replacement cable, model 572281 which is 1.2m long, has a 3.5mm jack, and comes with an inline microphone which I find useful is various circumstances. Disclaimer out of the way, my impression is that the HD560S do not make the G6 break even a mild sweat. I switched to Lo-Gain, which is recommended for headphones with an impedance below 150ohm. I would say that 100% volume on Lo-Gain is the highest volume I would conceivably use the HD560S - it's higher than I find comfortable, but not yet "painful". I would say 80-85% is around the max "useful to me" volume. Even so, there was no noticeable distortion or evidence of running out of power at 100% - the whole volume range is usable, essentially. If you really, really wanted to push the HD560s into painful levels, you could switch to Hi-Gain and give yourself tinnitus like me, which I don't recommend. Even with my HD600s on Hi-Gain, I never run beyond maybe 40% volume, with daily music listening levels typically in the 20% region. After more than a year of owning the HD560s and running them daily, I really like them and find they make a great "accessory" to my HD600s. I use them with my Steam Deck when gaming, or on various devices around the house. They have a wider sound stage than the HD600s and they are very pleasant to listen to and comfortable to wear, while being convenient to connect to any source. But, for dedicated, critical music listening, I still swear by my HD600s and find the G6 to be a good pairing.

    • @StCreed
      @StCreed Год назад +1

      I agree. I tested the hd560s last week and they run flawlessly from a mobile phone. Amazing, given their impedance.

  • @wwbdwwbd
    @wwbdwwbd 4 года назад +49

    I can confirm that 560S are excellent for classical music, exactly as you said. I listen to classical almost exclusively, and 560S are superb for that purpose. From orchestral to chamber to piano to opera, these perform stupendously. The only quibble I have is that violins can sometimes sound too hot for my taste. To be fair, violins in real life also sound very hot to my ears, so I suppose this is actually a testament to the transparency of these headphones. It also helps that sound stage on these are far superior to HD600, making them better suited for orchestral and chamber music. In terms of timbre, it's a toss-up between the 560S and 600; they are both very natural.

    • @LoekTheKing
      @LoekTheKing 3 года назад +3

      Do I need an amp when using the 560s for classical music? Someone told me the dynamic range is worse when not using an amp, and that could be bad when listening to classical. The volume is fine, I just don't know if it's okay to use it on my Samsung Galaxy A50 and on my PC with a Behringer UMC22 audio interface. That audio interface has a headphone input, and it should be able to drive the headphones, but it's not a real amp specifically made for listening. I bought it to power my mic. I don't know if I need to buy a portable amp for my phone and a USB amp when listening on my PC.

    • @tichy_ocean
      @tichy_ocean 3 года назад +2

      @@LoekTheKing IIRC DMS said that an audio interface is fine (didn't exactly specify which ones) so you should be okay. However it probably wouldn't hurt to use an amp. Perhaps you could try to find a music shop that lets you test your headphones. Always trust your ears first.

  • @earlskeletor430
    @earlskeletor430 3 года назад +15

    Interesting conclusion, I have actually found myself going the opposite way to you, in that, I find myself drawn to the HD560S over my HD600. I would conclude that anyone in the market for either should almost certainly try both!

  • @thelordgyoza
    @thelordgyoza 4 года назад +68

    Important to note for new buyers that the revised HD600 comes in the same crappy packaging as the 560.

    • @puciohenzap891
      @puciohenzap891 3 года назад +13

      Can confirm, no fancy case anymore.

  • @MrHandsomeStudios
    @MrHandsomeStudios 2 года назад +17

    I tested both the 660S and 560S in a store 2 days ago together with a 800 dollar Dac/Amp and my personal iFi Zen Dac. For someone new to headphones and DAC/AMP's I was suprised the quality of the sound were very minimal with these two headphones. I was suprised at how flat 560S sounded. To me the choice between these two are of more of a preference than a "this headphone is clearly better". I enjoyed the the 660S more for music because it sounds warmer and I just felt the bass in the 560S were lacking. When testing them in the store I thought the earcups shape felt a tiny bit better on the 660S because the pressure felt a little bit more balanced out on my ear. In my country the 660S sells for more than double the price of the 560S so I ended up with the 560S. If someone would have asked me how much these 2 headphones costs (soundwise) I would guess they would be similair priced because both of them sounds amazing to my ears but seems clearly ment for different type of people. 560S sounds like it's for someone who don't want so much color to their sound and want it to be more neutral and true to the recording and 660S seems to be with people who want to have just a little more bass and warmth than the 560S.

    • @TetoSuperFan
      @TetoSuperFan 2 года назад +4

      very well written and detailed, as classy as the squidward in your pfp lmao

    • @MrHandsomeStudios
      @MrHandsomeStudios 2 года назад +1

      @@TetoSuperFan Thanks man :D

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 2 года назад +2

      Ah, I need a neutral uncolored headphone for EQing and mixing recorded live music. Sounds like the 560S will be perfect for that. I can use a little EQ to perhaps make them "warmer" sounding and take down the 5KHz bump a touch when I listen for fun. Thanks! Another reviewer said that if you are running a more expensive "stack" of gear in the $2000 range the 660S scales better, meaning you'd hear more of a difference between the headphones, but I'm using a Schiit Magni headphone amp and Schiit Modius DAC, so the 560S should be perfectly fine.

    • @StCreed
      @StCreed Год назад +1

      @@rosswarren436 the 560s are pretty much perfect for neutral sound. But I've ditched them in favor of a dt990 edition, because I could only wear them for an hour before my ears became quite painful. A friend had the hd600 and it had the same clamping pressure, so if you're okay with that this one will be fine as well.
      Since I wanted comfort I went with the dt990 edition. I can wear it for 5 hours and still not feel a thing. But sound wise, the hd560s was slightly better, specifically on electronic dance music. Normal music, I really didn't hear much of a difference.

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 Год назад +1

      @@StCreed I picked up the HD560s on special a few weeks ago and am pretty happy with them. I looked at the Beyerdynamic DT990 too but thought the 560S were "more than good enough" for me in general listening and EQing some music I record live for the Internet Music Archive. Saw some say the 560S had a small bump around 5KHz, but I can EQ that down a touch when I listen to make them even flatter.
      Currently I have them in my "regular" Schiit stack for everyday headphone listening...through an iPAD feeding a Schiit Modi 3E via USB, then going into a Loki EQ then a Vali 2 hybrid tube preamp/headphone amp, and yeah, I've done a touch of tube rolling on the Vali 2 and currently have a JJ Electronics E88CC/6922 tube in it.
      Oh, note I did get another shorter cable for the 560S. The one that comes with it is crazy long. Had to get one so it locks in properly to the headphones.
      Good luck with the dT990. Enjoy! (In moderation...)

  • @injeolmi6
    @injeolmi6 3 года назад +3

    This was a nice video, chuckolatte. You solved some of my doubts regarding the 560S. I will keep watching your videos, they are really nice.Thank you!

  • @akqr8
    @akqr8 3 года назад +23

    Hi there, just because the HD560S is terminated on one side doesn't mean it's only single ended. You can get a balanced (although single earcup terminated) cable, it's a 4 pole termination meaning two seperate grounds - thus can be made balanced.

    • @indorr
      @indorr 7 месяцев назад

      True

  • @pascaljean2333
    @pascaljean2333 4 года назад +3

    Videos are adding up! Good job man. Always a fan!

  • @yuribezminov2825
    @yuribezminov2825 3 года назад +19

    As someone who has had every sennhieser (except the orpheus) I think the hd 560s is a very good value and has very good sound.
    Its detail is insane for 200 usd I personally think if your not wanting to cough up 500 or more for a good pair of headphones these beat out for me so many headphones so if you are getting into audiophileia hd560s is the way to go for a first.

    • @kalel33
      @kalel33 3 года назад

      I'd be interested in if you've heard the Sundaras, since you're saying you like detail. They are supposed to be amazing for detail.

    • @lHUSAMl
      @lHUSAMl 2 года назад

      What about dt 900 pro x now?

    • @StCreed
      @StCreed Год назад

      @@lHUSAMl the hd560s is quite clearly better than the dt900 Pro. But less comfy to wear.

    • @lHUSAMl
      @lHUSAMl Год назад

      @@StCreed i have dt 900 pro x now I'm pretty satisfied with the performance this is my candy !

    • @lHUSAMl
      @lHUSAMl Год назад

      @@StCreed no brand could compete beyerdynamic in comfort

  • @Al.j.Vasquez
    @Al.j.Vasquez 10 месяцев назад +1

    I've complained in the past that headphone reviewers tend to lose people with the overuse of audiophile terms as they provide nothing to have a perspective on, anything to understand what those terms and comparisons mean, you on the other hand, are the first one i've seen that points to specific parts of a song so we as users can grab our heaphones and put things into perspective. Yo deserve more subs for sure.

  • @superdrunkdnb
    @superdrunkdnb 2 дня назад

    Excellent review!
    I use the 560S for Gaming and the 58x for listening to Music (mostly bass heavy stuff).
    They both perform great at their tasks.

  • @shawnwilliams7021
    @shawnwilliams7021 4 года назад +18

    Excellent review. I own both and my findings match yours to a T. I'm keeping the 560s, I do enjoy them and as a side benefit they made me appreciate my 600's even more, if that is possible, lol.

  • @countach84
    @countach84 Год назад +2

    I own them both. I bought HD 560S a few weeks ago for their soundstage performace which of course outperforms the HD 600. BUT! That's pretty much it. In my opinion the overall sound quality of the HD 600 is still superior.
    The HD 600 are definitely more refined and have more resolution in most sounds. The HD 560S seem more "hollow" and lifeless. The bass is quite weak on both headphones, so I slightly EQ it. Even so, I still prefer the HD 600 bass. The mids (and lower mids) on HD 560S are fine but on HD 600 - boy, their are enjoyable. Smooth as silk and just nice to listen to. The trebles on HD 560S are slightly more emphasized, which make them more lively but there is some harshness (grain) on them too. The HD 600 trebles are delicate and I've never experienced any harshness on them. The build quality of HD 600 is also better (it's not premium by all means but still superior to HD 560S).
    So, there you have it. If you are into soundstage while maintaining a good sound quality - the HD 560S is a solid option. But if the narrow soundstage doesn't bother you that much - get the HD 600 and enjoy your music to the fullest.

  • @soulfulfool
    @soulfulfool 2 года назад +3

    Good old hd600 👍 I even bought them silver wire for anniversary haha ! Dont need any other sennheiser, my recent investment into brighter sound headphones was John Grado RS1e, was kind of afraid because I never heard Grado before. To be honest now they are my vocal champions even HD600 cant beat that natural fully open sound, HD600 are warmer yet more closed

  • @challengerjj9760
    @challengerjj9760 3 года назад +24

    the voice on this man is amazing

    • @7sukuyomi
      @7sukuyomi 3 года назад +1

      With 1.25x Speed its even better!

    • @dlbsyst
      @dlbsyst 2 года назад

      Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.:)

  • @hukama6911
    @hukama6911 3 года назад +17

    10:20 man of culture

  • @GentlemanSauer9
    @GentlemanSauer9 Год назад

    Legend has it, those construction guys are still at it to this day

  • @ilusions4
    @ilusions4 10 месяцев назад +3

    10:01
    how do headphones add reverb? I don't understand this.

    • @h-dawg6462
      @h-dawg6462 2 месяца назад

      i think he means the decay time is longer.

    • @ilusions4
      @ilusions4 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@h-dawg6462 but how? Are the drivers further from the ears? I don't get how that makes sense.
      Could it just be that the frequencies that contain the most reverb in the music he listens to are boosted by the HD600s?
      I wish audiophiles could articulate themselves with objective metrics.

  • @lupe_g2
    @lupe_g2 3 года назад +7

    You could actually run the 560s balanced. Even Sennheiser mentioned that in forums. The headphone is trrs. The cable supplied isn't balanced tho.

  • @thedarkmage7373
    @thedarkmage7373 Год назад +3

    You can run the 560s balanced if you get a replacement cable

  • @pat1046
    @pat1046 2 года назад +1

    The HD 560S income port is 2.5mm TRRS with L+ L- R+ R-, so it does support Balance. It's just the cable in the box is Single End, & Sennheiser seems not selling Balanced cable for it. I have HD 560S & I've ordered a custom made 2.5mm to 4.4mm Balance cable for it

  • @godstompa
    @godstompa 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for the amazing review! I was thinking of buying HD 560 S but now... I need something a bit "lively" as you said. Could you recommend such headphone (with HD 560 S price...)?

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад +2

      Well, the Philips Fidelio X2HR is a v shaped HP, so maybe try those? The Sennheiser HD6XX are a warmer HP and a bit more laid back as well.

    • @MadLadsAnonymous
      @MadLadsAnonymous 3 года назад +1

      People seem to like the beyerdynamic TYGR 300R. Beautiful sound, same price point as 560s.

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад

      @@MadLadsAnonymous I'll check them out, but probably not soon.

  • @fhf17
    @fhf17 10 месяцев назад +2

    personally, using the HD 560s with the IFI Zen dac V2 with firmware 7.2 (cookies and cream) sounds very 3D and makes everything sound more immersive as hell. You should try it. IFI delisted that FW for some reason but i still have the original file.

    • @Oatmeal_TVx
      @Oatmeal_TVx 19 дней назад

      Did you have to EQ them to get better?

  • @SuperSeltzer
    @SuperSeltzer 3 года назад +6

    I hate the Sennheiser veil. 560s does not have that.. and with EQ I can give it enough bass and tone down peaky regions in treble. I love my cans with or without EQ though.

  • @Michalos86
    @Michalos86 3 года назад +3

    You get similar boxes with both new headphones - new HD 600 has similar box to the HD 560s.

  • @mrcrunch8000
    @mrcrunch8000 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for at least mentioning the HD58X. I'm a HD650 guy so I unfortunately sold off my HD600 when I got the HD58X. When I seen the hype for the HD560 I immediately grabbed a pair because so many compared it to the HD600 making it sound like a great alternative. Personally I was disappointed in many ways. After playing with it I can't understand where the hype came from. Maybe my ears are bad but I can't justify the HD560 for $200 when the HD58X can be had for less. Outside of a slightly smaller soundstage it does everything the HD560 does at least as good minus the sometimes overly aggressive treble of HD560. I really wish Sennheiser would reconsider their pricing.

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, I use a Loki EQ to take down the 5 KHz region about 3 dB or so. Helps the 560S sound much better and not aggressive.

    • @StCreed
      @StCreed Год назад +2

      In Europe you can't get the massdrop versions. In our case the 560s is about half the price of the alternatives, which makes it a very strong contender.

  • @MaceWinduDuHuen
    @MaceWinduDuHuen 3 года назад +9

    great voice you have

    • @sebbo1496
      @sebbo1496 3 года назад +1

      yea, probably sounds good through every single headphone on the market

    • @KytexEdits
      @KytexEdits 3 года назад +1

      Why did I read that in Yoda's voice?

    • @lostandfound6501
      @lostandfound6501 3 года назад

      Like a Rocky Balboa that got a Harvard education.

  • @factorjay2100
    @factorjay2100 3 года назад +3

    Excellent review and appreciate the unbiased comments

  • @chinarider8051
    @chinarider8051 4 года назад +2

    You can get a balanced, pentaconn terminated(or anyway), many places on amazon, or ebay. I have 4.4mm balanced cables for my 660s, 598se, and wired momentums v.1. Sony 1AM2s actually come with a 3.5mm trrs(to headphone left cup), terminating in a 4.4, fully balanced. The new V Moda M-200's also come balanced, incuding balanced cables, on single sided cord, cans. You're missing out, bro. I used to assume the same thing, until I bought the 1AM2's..

  • @iansoares3404
    @iansoares3404 4 года назад +1

    very good comparison. I own both and agree with you.

  • @Farpun
    @Farpun 4 года назад +5

    What does your collection comprise of so far?

  • @ithehappy1
    @ithehappy1 2 года назад +3

    So for gaming the HD560S won't have any advantage over the 600? As the 560S is having wider soundstage or better imaging as well I presume? I am a CS Go player and I play other games as well, watch a lot of movies too. Music I don't listen that much. That sharpness in treble might put me off from the 560S, I was only considering it for the soundstage and imaging, so you think I will be fine with a 600?

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  2 года назад +3

      I really do believe the HD560s would be better for gaming tbh. I think you'll get used to the slightly elevated treble--it really is slight

  • @canonlon311
    @canonlon311 4 года назад +8

    Great video. I sent back my 560s. They lack depth, mids are recessed, less detailed, unnatural tone - when compared to my 650. I like the 560s bass and treble extension but that alone is not enough to want to keep them. Soundstage was wider with 560s but imo the 'narrower' soundstage of the 650 is just done better. Also I found imaging of the 560s to be inconsistent as instrument locations are not clearly defined throughout a song. So personally I dont buy into the 560s hype and consider them outmatched in almost every aspect when compared to the 600 series.
    ** I've heard that tube amps make a significant difference to the sonic output of these headphones - so I should state that my impressions (above) were based on listening via solid state amp.

    • @stanfjc1
      @stanfjc1 4 года назад +10

      I respectfully disagree

    • @canonlon311
      @canonlon311 4 года назад +1

      @@stanfjc1 totally understandable - different ears for different people.

    • @stanfjc1
      @stanfjc1 4 года назад +6

      @@canonlon311 At least for me, the bass was such a big improvement over the 6XX I had. Its not a lot of bass, but it gets deep. Everyone has a preference and I think its good that Sennheiser has different sound signatures for around the same price.

    • @canonlon311
      @canonlon311 4 года назад +2

      @@stanfjc1 I wish the 6XX had that deep. impactful bass of the 560s.

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  4 года назад +1

      @@stanfjc1 Yeah, I definitely noticed that particular aspect. That's why I preferred my HD600 over my HD6XX, despite the large price difference.

  • @shayan-gg
    @shayan-gg 3 года назад

    subscribed just because of your music taste

  • @jorgbornefeld1689
    @jorgbornefeld1689 Год назад +1

    The emphasis in the 4.5 kHz region is not innocent. This is the region where human hearing is most sensitive.I don't like the sound of the 560s in this frequency region. I have to eq it down a bit. After done this the 560s turns out to a really good headphone.

    • @fhf17
      @fhf17 11 месяцев назад +3

      i use a HD 560s with the zen dac and since it has a slight warmth to it is perfect for bright headphones as it helps to round it off smoothly.

  • @44Renegade44
    @44Renegade44 5 дней назад

    You really try to tell how these headphones sound?)) You crazy, need sound demo for this

  • @deadandburied7626
    @deadandburied7626 3 года назад +2

    New 600s are packaged like 560s now and are made in Romania.

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад +2

      *Box Gang did not like this*

    • @hemanthr7294
      @hemanthr7294 2 года назад

      They moved back to Ireland. Got mine 1 month back. It says made in Ireland.

  • @tiborpapp1790
    @tiborpapp1790 3 года назад +1

    Hello! I'm planning to buy my first audiophile headphones. I'd like to ask which one do you recommend HD560S or 4XX or go for your king HD600? I mostly listen to rock
    . Thanks!

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад +7

      I think the HD600 are the best all-rounders. The 4XX will have a hyped sound signature that is great, but you'll grow accustomed to a v-shaped sound from your beginning.
      The HD560S are honestly the flattest of the three. If you're looking for enjoyment, the HD560S might be the last thing you want.

    • @tiborpapp1790
      @tiborpapp1790 3 года назад

      @@chuckolatte600 Thank you!

    • @Gcbyvr666
      @Gcbyvr666 2 года назад +1

      I own the 600’s and the 650’s and for rock the 650 is unquestionably superior. When I’m listening to vocal and instrumental music I do however prefer my 600’s as they tend to have a more open, transparent sound. Being both of these headphones are 300 ohm, they do require more power than an iPad or laptop can provide, so unless I’m plugged into the headphone jack on my Simaudio Moon 340i, I run them both with an Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt DAC/headphone amp and it makes a big difference. Ima out to order a pair of flagship HD 800S, but they will be even more dependant on a very good headphone amplifier.

  • @WhittyWhitts
    @WhittyWhitts 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good thing I bought the 660S2 so I don’t need to choose between these two and I get a balanced cable included

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  8 месяцев назад +1

      Honestly, you did not choose wrong at all! They're on my wall as we speak!

  • @andrewc9343
    @andrewc9343 2 года назад

    16:28 ok now we need this song used as a reference point in a future comparison lmao

  • @millton1530
    @millton1530 4 года назад

    👌 nice vid as always

  • @vmd1293
    @vmd1293 3 года назад +1

    Are you making the 560s vs x2hr comparison soon?

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад

      It's underway, as are other comparisons. Most likely, yeah.

    • @Ebu26
      @Ebu26 3 года назад

      How does the HD 599 compare to the Fidelio X2?

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад

      @@Ebu26 Not sure, haven't heard either of those two.

  • @busywl69
    @busywl69 3 года назад +1

    is the soundstage as good with the 560s as with the x2hr? would it be an upgrade or downgrade?

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад +1

      Both soundstages sound a bit different it terms of dimensions, not just width. I'll be comparing them in a future video though, so keep an eye out of that one! For now, all I have to say is that they are both good.

  • @jaroslavfricek7772
    @jaroslavfricek7772 3 года назад +1

    You should do voice overs for commercials with such a voice!!...😃

  • @buildyouup838
    @buildyouup838 4 года назад +3

    Very good review. I think I would like the HD 560 S with an iPhone or MacBook, but I would prefer the HD 600 with a tube amp

    • @imabeliever85
      @imabeliever85 4 года назад +1

      The HD 600 is a 300ohm Headphones that scales up really high with high-end equipment. It sounds amazing with my Valhalla 2, Much better than plugged into my iPad

    • @rauldon6488
      @rauldon6488 3 года назад

      @@imabeliever85 excuse my ignorance, but when u say high-end equipment, what price point are we looking at?
      i hav a Klipsch Heritage Headphone amplifier/DAC.... do u think it would drive the hd 600 to it's potential?
      thank u!

    • @imabeliever85
      @imabeliever85 3 года назад +1

      @@rauldon6488 That’s a good question. Hard to quantify. For me, a $300 stereo receiver Is a higher end piece of equipment than a smart phone, and more expensive stereos and amps are higher than that.

    • @LoekTheKing
      @LoekTheKing 3 года назад

      @@imabeliever85 Do I need an amp when using the 560s with my Samsung Galaxy A50? I've been able to try it out on my phone, and the volume is fine, but is the quality worse than when using an amp?

    • @imabeliever85
      @imabeliever85 3 года назад

      @@LoekTheKing You could start out that way but I would think that a portable amp would give you more headroom and bring out more of the headphone’s potential

  • @towsifshahriarshovo
    @towsifshahriarshovo 2 года назад +1

    Hd58x or 560s for music. I have hd58x I wanna upgrade, do 560s worth extra??

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  2 года назад +1

      I prefer the HD560s between those two. If you replace the 58x, I'd say it's a bit of an upgrade

    • @towsifshahriarshovo
      @towsifshahriarshovo 2 года назад

      @@chuckolatte600 thanks for the reply

  • @adrianmorrish8494
    @adrianmorrish8494 3 года назад

    For someone new into this world, is the 600 a good choice just for istenjng, I'm not planning on becoming a reviewer, also isn't one of the main pin ts of open a k sou d stage over closed back, if the 600 don't have a wide sound stage I am a little confused.

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад

      they're one of the most popular HPs in this space. Their narrow soundstage isn't really a "detriment," just a characteristic. I personally don't mind it at all

    • @adrianmorrish8494
      @adrianmorrish8494 3 года назад

      @@chuckolatte600 thanks, I heard a few reviewers say the that soundstage is over focused on, is the open airy sound, not sure how else I can described it the result then of my pb’s being open. I have taken mine off a couple of times on low volume as i wasn’t sure the sound was coming from them or my iPad Pro when I have used it as my driver.

  • @chromantium5210
    @chromantium5210 Год назад

    15:57 is there any EQ for HD 560s to get more elements of life?

  • @massivemikeh
    @massivemikeh 4 года назад +1

    Yes!

  • @_hologram
    @_hologram 3 года назад

    Hi, I am, looking to get my first audiophile level headphone amp combo, I am based in EU, and would like to know the differences between this and DT880 edition (250ohm), what should I get? Price is mostly the same, around 150/180. I am looking for something versatile, mainly music usage, no specific genre. Value clarity, instrument details but with some punch/ fun

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад

      Mmm, Beyerdynamics tend to sound more v-shaped (more bass, more treble). If you want that hyped sound, maybe try out the DT880. BUT if you want to play it safe, stick to the HD560S.

    • @_hologram
      @_hologram 3 года назад

      @@chuckolatte600 thanks a lot for your time, highly appreciate it. Great work on your videos, learned a lot from them :)

  • @anhphamtienkhoi1992
    @anhphamtienkhoi1992 4 года назад

    which is better hd58x or hd560s. can u review the hd58x also

  • @elliotandersson8302
    @elliotandersson8302 2 года назад

    Boosted bass and EQ'd treble/ Dt880 600ohms vs hd650's which one is better accuracy/neutral wise?
    And I do not get any distortion at all on my pair of dt880 so forget that thing, pls! :)

  • @Farpun
    @Farpun 4 года назад +5

    I don't think the HD600s that are being sold today get the display box that your one came with, sadly

    • @iansoares3404
      @iansoares3404 4 года назад +1

      mine didn't and I bought it a little over a month ago.

  • @roo3434
    @roo3434 2 года назад +1

    Define "higher quality plastic" - I mix and design plastics for BMW.. I'm curious of what you mean with that statement.

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  2 года назад +2

      It feels more robust. Like if I were to squeeze the HD600 hard, they wouldn't bend but if I were to do the same to the HD560s, they would.

  • @theunsbotha5188
    @theunsbotha5188 4 года назад +1

    Hey man, as someone who only has a pair of 20 year old HD600's I just wanted to say how fucking great it is for me that you're doing these videos. The fact that we have this point of reference makes your reviews so much more meaningful than just describing the sound with a bunch of mumbo jumbo audiophile terminology.
    What's your end game at the moment? I've been looking for something that's a bit more capable to last me the next 20 years but it's so difficult to upgrade these babies. I'd like to improve their bass response, soundstage and detail.
    I was looking at something like the Elex or LCD2c's but as I'm in South Africa, I really can't drop close to a grand on something that could very much fail in a few years. What would you recommend dude?
    Thanks a lot from a true fan.

    • @CardinalsFanever
      @CardinalsFanever 4 года назад

      Johan Botha was from South Africa... I LOVE HIS VOICE!

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  4 года назад +1

      For a sound signature closest to the HD600, the closer of those two is the Elex. You may have to EQ the bass response to reduce the lushness a bit (if you're looking for as close to a match as possible). I also recommend the HiFiMAN Sundara if +$500 USD sounds like a bit of a stretch. Cheers to you in SA!

  • @cuentadosdos5480
    @cuentadosdos5480 3 года назад +1

    Do you consider the hd560S suitable for mixing ?

  • @sandydennylives1392
    @sandydennylives1392 3 года назад +10

    My 560's work across the genres, but they are burn't in and using a warm dac/amp certainly negates any surgeon's scalpel talk. Unbelievable value, bye bye Senn veil.

  • @michaelreed649
    @michaelreed649 3 года назад +1

    Great review.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @xevus2959
    @xevus2959 3 года назад

    what is the best headphones for jpop music and for gaming? my budget is $500 but slightey cheaper is better, i have tried the 560s and although its good for gaming it feels kinda off listening to music for some reason ( yes im using an amp dac usb box Sound Blaster gx6 ) idk if its just me

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад +1

      Well they're very neutral. Though that is something I really enjoy, you may personally prefer just a little more coloration in your music.
      Try out the HD600 or the HiFiMAN Sundaras

    • @xevus2959
      @xevus2959 Год назад

      @@chuckolatte600 an update, i tried the HD 660s a few times in the last year or so and i never could point out something was off with the headphones sound presentation and could never really like them. I got the HD600 finally for $285 brand new and i must say they sound way better than the HD660S and more detailed and more realistic than the 560s. I kept the 560s and HD600 as both offer different experiences. my first hifi headphones i bought was the Fidelio x2HR which are really good for $140 and are really good for movie watching because of its wide sound stage and bass.
      I found that playing "Percy Jackson The Lightning Thief " Blu-ray played through my PS5 through the " IFI ZEN DAC V2 " running" FW 7.2 ( cookies and cream ) " sound amazing and immersive with the Fidelio X2HR.
      one note i found with the Zen Dac V2 is that it sounds like it colors the sound somehow or isn't as precise because i am also a gamer i find the imaging accuracy to be less precise on the Zen dac than on my other devices and onboard audio.

  • @DG-lh6vc
    @DG-lh6vc Год назад

    I have some sony 1000xm5 s that I have been using with my fiio m11 ultra I just got never really got any high fi headphones before seen the 560s for $87.00 used and jumped on them waiting for them to show up to see the diffrence .

  • @jonathan4681
    @jonathan4681 2 года назад

    Are both these headphones mid-fi?

  • @bazadam6635
    @bazadam6635 3 года назад +1

    Can you tell me if the HD560s can be considered as an extension to the Airpods Pro, i.e. giving more better soundstage, better resolution, better imaging and similar sound signature? Please. I also intend to pair the HD560s with the FiiO BTR5. Please help.

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад +4

      Well the HD560s are better than the Airpods pro, no comparison haha. You should be good to go

    • @bazadam6635
      @bazadam6635 3 года назад

      @@chuckolatte600 Ok awesome. thanks

  • @sharonsalazar8137
    @sharonsalazar8137 2 года назад +1

    great!! thnkss

  • @RabbitConfirmed
    @RabbitConfirmed 2 года назад +2

    why nobody comparing the 560s to the 660s?

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 2 года назад

      Yes, I'd like to hear (pun intended) that comparison. I've heard other reviewers talk about the HD600 series having a "three blob effect" on sound stage where there are "holes" between the left, the center, and the right as music or sound moves between them but that the HD560S did not suffer from that issue. But do the newer 660S have or not have that issue? I'd like to know. And I'd like to know which headphone would be better for EQing and mixing live recorded music in terms of giving tonal accuracy.

    • @RabbitConfirmed
      @RabbitConfirmed 2 года назад +1

      @@rosswarren436 all I can tell you is, I've bought the HD 560s and the HD 400 Pro. And they both suffered L+R imbalance. Had to send them both back. Sennheisers quality control is trash, at least in this line up.

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 2 года назад

      @@RabbitConfirmed that is good to know. I've not seen any reviewer note that (so far) but it is something I'll look out for if I get the HD 560 S for mixing and EQing recordings. At least if I get them through Amazon, I can return them if I notice that imbalance.

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 2 года назад +1

      @@RabbitConfirmed ordered the HD 560S yesterday from Amazon. On sale for $150. Figured I can test them and send them back within the 30 day period if they have issues, but hopefully I'll get a "good" pair.

    • @RabbitConfirmed
      @RabbitConfirmed 2 года назад +1

      @@rosswarren436 yes, amazon is the way

  • @Thirsty_Tree
    @Thirsty_Tree 4 года назад

    Quick question, would the HD 560 S’s be a worthy upgrade from Fidelio X2HR’s?

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  4 года назад

      Soundwise, they're too different to compare. It's not exactly a direct upgrade. More on that in an upcoming comparison!

    • @danterikxx
      @danterikxx 3 года назад

      @@chuckolatte600 is that comparison still coming?

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад +1

      @@danterikxx Yep! Probably gonna be a month or two though. Short story though, I don't think they're a good upgrade, but they're an interesting sidegrade.

    • @danterikxx
      @danterikxx 3 года назад

      @@chuckolatte600 since you play games as well (also movies), which one would be better for enjoyment?

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад +1

      @@danterikxx I'd say the HD600. Only real upside the HD560s has on them would be the better bass extension for that "oomph" in games and music. Every other category though, HD600

  • @puciohenzap891
    @puciohenzap891 3 года назад +2

    I have both the new 600 2019 ediiton and 560S and I can't stand the 560S, I have sensitive ears and the 560S have that super itchy, hot treble, like Sennheiser tried to create the HD800 but with cheap units - the 560S is trying but they don't come close. Had the same problem with bluetooth version of hifiman Ananda - they were unlistenable for me.
    Putting the HD600 back on and it's sooo buttery smooth.

    • @Anomalyn1
      @Anomalyn1 3 года назад +1

      i sent them back for the same reason, it was unlistenable with 4-5k frequency, like needles in your ear

    • @jorgbornefeld1689
      @jorgbornefeld1689 Год назад

      Yes, I can't listen to them either unequalized. The 5 kHz region is totally horrible. Wit EQ it's okay.

  • @MichaelSidneyTimpson
    @MichaelSidneyTimpson 2 года назад

    What about comparing the brand new, just released Sennheiser HD 400 pro? It is more expensive than the HD 560s....seems worthy of comparison.

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  2 года назад

      I might take a look at those. Though it seems most people aren't excited about it. We'll see lol

  • @calvinyip364
    @calvinyip364 2 года назад

    Hd58x Vs hd560s? Which one is better

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  2 года назад

      I highly prefer the sound of the HD560S but the design of the HD58x

  • @MapleYum
    @MapleYum 4 года назад +1

    I’m already sold on the 560s, I just need to find a way to buy the damn thing in Canada. Your description of its strengths matches exactly with what I want it for. Thanks!

    • @chrisasmith75
      @chrisasmith75 4 года назад +1

      You can get them on the sennheiser website for 259 with free shipling :).

    • @paultaylorduke
      @paultaylorduke 4 года назад +1

      @@chrisasmith75 They haven't been in stock for weeks. :(

  • @streamnoremorse
    @streamnoremorse 3 года назад +1

    How it compare to 598? I own 598. I want upgrade to 650

  • @donvittoriosierra
    @donvittoriosierra 3 года назад +4

    hd560s can be run in balanced

  • @rags015
    @rags015 3 года назад +1

    Finally an honest review about soundstage. Every other ignoramus on youtube keeps attacking the legendary HD 600 for its supposedly narrow soundstage. The soundstage in headphones compared to entry level hifi speakers/studio monitors is ALWAYS going to abysmal. Also I love them soundstage metaphors ‘Canyons’ & ‘Alleyways’!! Love your channel and videos. Could you also review AKG headphones like the K371, K612 Pro, K712 Pro, K240 mk ii, etc….?

    • @kalel33
      @kalel33 3 года назад +1

      Soundstage has it's place for certain genres. For jazz, classical, and songs from musicals I prefer my K712 pros. They are soundstage whores and they work amazing for those genres. Most everything else I listen to my Focal Elex.

  • @waynebickerton8197
    @waynebickerton8197 2 года назад +2

    The senn 560s are balanced.

  • @haze5407
    @haze5407 3 года назад +1

    what about a comparison between sennheiser hd660s and hd560s

    • @kalel33
      @kalel33 3 года назад +4

      I'll give you the crib notes. The HD560s is 95% of the HD660s for less than half the price. They have almost the same sound signature that deviates from the mid-forward Sennheiser signature sound. There's really no reason to buy the HD660s unless your expendable income doesn't mind paying more than double for that last 5%.

    • @haze5407
      @haze5407 3 года назад

      @@kalel33 thanks for info

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 2 года назад

      @@kalel33 thanks! I think that made my decision to get the HD560S then and use some EQ to tame the 5 Khz region a touch.

  • @Poludioskroz
    @Poludioskroz 4 года назад

    Nice!

  • @Meme_Connaisseur
    @Meme_Connaisseur 4 года назад +2

    The HD 560S can also be run balanced

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  4 года назад +1

      So they've been telling me haha. Still probably not worth it.

  • @Mikegritz
    @Mikegritz Год назад

    Nice job.

  • @johnsoriano3812
    @johnsoriano3812 4 года назад

    Would love to work with you with some of our hifi personal space products. Is there any reach you via email?

  • @tecno4u31
    @tecno4u31 3 года назад

    For you HD 599, HD 560s for films?

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад

      Well you certainly COULD use them for films, it just depends on how much "boom" and "sizzle" you want out of your sound when watching the film (ex: action film vs romance)

    • @tecno4u31
      @tecno4u31 3 года назад

      @@chuckolatte600 boom effect

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад

      @@tecno4u31 yeah you won't get a lot of that with the HD560S

  • @TheKorvac
    @TheKorvac 3 года назад

    For gaming 558 or 560s?

  • @alessandrodifrancesco8110
    @alessandrodifrancesco8110 3 года назад +1

    No way the 6xx has more resolution. Are just muddy

  • @xk964264
    @xk964264 4 года назад +3

    The 560s where returned to sennheisser. I bought me a pair of 6xx again ! Lol. Nothing compares. Ohh the sundaras blow the 560 away. 789 amp .. good night. That treble was extremely harsh on the 560. It was trying to much...

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  4 года назад

      I can see what you mean. Definitely not my favorite HP lol

  • @souravms
    @souravms 4 года назад +1

    6XX Jubilee - what a wonderful headphone that is :D.

  • @himanshutiwari90
    @himanshutiwari90 4 года назад +1

    I disagree with the build quality point , that hd5xx series design plastic is flexible and durable watch Jim's review room s hd598 review who bends the hell out of hd598s , I know hd600 has more solid plastic but if it's stretched and twisted like hd598 I am sure I'll be collecting that "solid" but brittle plastic.

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  4 года назад

      Well maybe with a short stretch, but I doubt you could continue to do that often for years to come haha. Either way, don't bend your HPs lol

  • @pp312
    @pp312 3 года назад +1

    Burn in?

  • @cyberbarbaro
    @cyberbarbaro 3 года назад +2

    They chose this stupid cable so that buyers are forced to buy a replacement

  • @bstrunk57
    @bstrunk57 3 года назад +1

    It seems as if the comparisons that you make are based simply on what you have on hand. These are not even in the same class, and comparing them really makes no sense. These channels have popped up like cockroaches when the light is turned off.

  • @jezusmylord
    @jezusmylord Год назад

    oh the hur dur 6 hungos

  • @insomnia695
    @insomnia695 2 года назад +1

    Nice video, but just clean up those nails my man :D

  • @kyle1538
    @kyle1538 3 года назад +2

    Review the bananas

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  3 года назад +4

      They're quite long and sweet. Can be a bit mushy as well. As time goes by, they start to get darker.

  • @genaishivatov1737
    @genaishivatov1737 2 года назад

    HD600 at mid frequencies is more sonorous than HD560S, like if you compare CD and vinyl - the difference is the same.

  • @luigismilazzo
    @luigismilazzo 4 года назад

    The real comparison

  • @Spyrozzz
    @Spyrozzz 4 года назад

    I think the 560s will have more in common with the shp 9500

    • @chuckolatte600
      @chuckolatte600  4 года назад +1

      Mmm kind of...? Could be like a refined version of it...?

  • @dtag7129
    @dtag7129 Месяц назад

    tomar

  • @Terran0va_Plays
    @Terran0va_Plays 3 года назад

    3 Dog??

  • @autoexec5367
    @autoexec5367 3 года назад

    🤣
    7:13
    7:22
    11:26
    15:14
    16:52

  • @freen773
    @freen773 2 года назад

    The new hd600 box is ass btw

  • @PsGetSid_
    @PsGetSid_ 2 месяца назад

    HD560s is not good at all. Return after 10min. Hype,.my HD 598 is much better and do not clamp on head at all.

    • @h-dawg6462
      @h-dawg6462 2 месяца назад +1

      HD 598 are consumer hp's. HD 560s are studio hp's that are essentially the same as HD 400 pro's!.....not hype at all, just the wrong tool for your needs.

    • @PsGetSid_
      @PsGetSid_ 2 месяца назад

      @@h-dawg6462 you are right, studioheadphones are not made for normal consumer needs.

  • @indorr
    @indorr 7 месяцев назад

    So much false inf here Zzzz

  • @musikus7092
    @musikus7092 2 года назад +1

    only talking about sound is useless