I like how Cliff lets people just talk without interrupting. The more they try to defend their view, the more they start to lose it. Who was it that said “Never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.”
@@bugen5 I'm not sure but King Solomon said , " Do not answer to a fool or you sound just like him. Answer a fool and he will think he is wiser than you."
@@wretchedpoorboy I practice the virtue of silence. I only speak when necessary and there are times especially today where it's best to not engage with fools. If they are using profanity or vulgarity within the first few sentences, it's a tell tale sign that person has an impure heart and is effeminate at least in the realm of modesty because that's what's currently evident. As an embassador of Christ we should use discernment to know who we ought to correct and who not to because if correct someone who we can sense isn't going to adhere to correction, we become culpable for making the situation worse which will more than likely happen if dealing with someone who hasn't even cared to tame their tongue. Romans 1:28 "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge but fools have a disdain for wisdom and instruction" Proverbs 13:1 "Wise men heed instruction but fools reject correction."
Cliffe is so dope. He certainly has the patience and overwhelming knowledge to debate all the blind in all these universities. Praise GOD. Uses Cliffe in a mighty way.
I like that Cliffe is open enough to support all Christians regardless of whether he personally agrees with their denomination. Squabbling over interpretations of things that are not the basic nuts and bolts of belief isn't fruitful, it's divisive. Prove a subatomic particle exists. Then get back.
John 10:14 and psalms 82:6 says that we are gods. Indeed, we are gods but we are not God. We are gods to nature and animals are we not? Jesus says that he is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords for a reason. Quantum physics, according to him, seems to align with the Bible without him realizing it since he doesn’t study the Bible.
@@MuscledSugar what a load of nonsense 😅 christianity is a false believe but satan is real in fact christianity comes from satan. Remember satan and his followers come as the angel of light. Christianity seems like light but it is not
Nope you missed it. By the kids logic applied to your reasoning plants can feel OUR pain, or more precisely the emotion that results from pain. Physical pain and love are different. The emotions of pain are anger, sadness and despair. The same study the kid is talking about measured that also and found that plants exposed to people experiencing feelings of emotional "distress" cause plants to grow slower and have less yield. But No... Plants don't have a nervous system so they don't feel physical pain when you cut them. Who knows, maybe they feel emotional joy when we consume them as the just fulfilled Gods purpose and now don't have to be a cabbage anymore.
I enjoyed this conversation and thought the young man held his own quite well... I believe in god and Christ and I think the only part where the young man is wrong is that we individually are not god and collectively are also not god. But god does share our consciousness and experiences everything we do along with us how else could god see and know everything and judge us and know what is in our hearts unless he is along for the ride with all of us? When we accept god we accept his spirit in us and he is with us from then on. I think if someone brought this idea to him he may accept it because it compliments his world view.
Maybe he is right .maybe jesus sayed that to.that out souls are part of gods energy and thats why jesus sayed that only way to god is our soul our heart .jesus came to tell us how to conect with god and we are part of him .he didnt came to take out sins that doesnt make sense .he came to save us from our distance with god
So Sad the guy with the Back Pack is trying to project himself as intelligent! The only thing he came close to getting Right was , his comments on a rock and us being the same!!! Yes we are ALL DIRT, we came from Dirt , when The LORD GOD formed ADAM from the DUST OF THE EARTH,and breathed into him the Breathe of Life! The Back Packer needs to go back more and ask the Intellectual Question without personal bios , " WHERE DID THE DIRT COME FROM? WHO MADE THE DIRT? " Cause and Effect! 🤔 In Order for there to be an Effect, there must first be a Cause!😊 That Cause of All thing's, Is GOD GENESIS 1:1 🙌🙏
I get what he's saying, but still. Jesus could absolutely have been born on December 25th. He wasn't there and there's no mention of the date of Jesus' birth in the Bible.
Gospels are historical, not history. Cliffe uses deceptive, logical fallacies and I am happy to see that these young people aren’t buying his snake-oil.
@@sleepinggorillaI always notice the one thing, people like you, never include in their accusations. Examples of fallacies and deceptions. You could actually be the first person to reply back to me with those examples but we will see.
@jelly7310 what part? Because you all pick and choose which parts suit you, follow those, put down people that see it other ways, argue this point and that point. You can't all be right eh?
“Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.” Proverbs 26:4-5
I know a few people like that and they never seem to be able to see past their own delusions, you're talking to a brick wall. Best to show them the truth by example compassion and patience.
Proverbs 26. KJV :4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. :5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Proverbs 26: KJV 4-5 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. [5] Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
This guy argues against the gospels because he says they are based off of other peoples interpretations. Isn’t he doing just that by subscribing to these scientific ideas? I doubt he himself has conducted these experiments and yet he is basing his thinking off of the interpretations of these other people.
You're right, when money is involved, studies are quite prone to be falsified. But then, the same can be said about religion. However, that science works can be proved. With no science, you wouldn't be writing here.
@@haitaelpastor976 You’re right, a lot of science is provable, doesn’t mean all science is. A lot of science is hypothesis or theory and subject to changing as time passes.
@@marccuffe6392 Science is the method, not the hypothesis or fact that must be proved. Of course, in the light of new discoveries, theories change and new applications are open.
@@haitaelpastor976 and how often are scientific hypotheses and theories purported to be fact and taught in schools as if they were fact only to be disproven later? What about these quantum mechanics this kid is talking about in the video? How none of physical reality is real and light waves collapse upon us perceiving or viewing them to make things appear solid? Or whatever the kid was saying as he stomped on the ground as he was saying it and treating it as fact. What about the science or the “method” that has been used to determine this to be true. Highly complex ideas being purported to be fact based upon a field very few know very little about.
@@wilcowiersma9465 Psalms 53:1 “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.”
Apostle Paul was much worse but God really works in mysterious ways He turned Paul around and spread the word of God! So, you’ll never know Jesus may softens this young man’s heart and be like Paul. 🙏🏼
I may not believe that Jesus was born in December but I completely agree with you it doesn't really matter. Christmas is always a great time to be around the family regardless if you're a Christian Muslim Jew atheist it's always a nice time of the year.
Not only is it nonsense, it's ridiculously complex nonsense. And if the observer is the same thing as the observed, then how can there be different interpretations?
the only problem wasa that he rushed it , but he had a good point... Luke, Mark and the other two arent first hand eyewitness accounts, Luke Didnt write the Book Of Luke, theres questionable authorship, cause the Manuscripts are in Greek.. Luke was Hebrews, not to mention the manuscripts found arent from 1AD, as Cliffe bluntly lies about, its 80CE , 2 whole generations after the death of Jesus (Supposed)
I don't know what's more impressive... this pastor's knowledge or the patience he has in arguing with a college student that sounds more like a middle schooler arguing.
I studied mythology. Specifically Egyptian, Greek, and Celtic. Besides the birthday everything the 1st student said about Horus is incorrect. Not only is it wrong, there's no evidence in story nor archeology to support the claim.
@@remveel2443 Osiris is the only God in the Egyptian pantheon to be killed and resurrected. Horus, like Atum ( the creator ), is immortal in all ways. Horus and the sun god Ra do merge at some point and the dawn is referred to as being born anew each day. I believe that's where many people get mixed up at. But he never dies to be resurrected, only Osiris. Egyptian mythology is rather wild I mean Atum gives birth to himself before creation to create lol so it can be difficult to keep up with
Spirit of Truth will tell you what is right and what is wrong. For example I don't have to believe virgin story in order to be Jesus' student. Good stories in books have their purpose, which is for me to dug deep and understand Jesus better.
@@simonsong1743 Im not saying 'you arent a real Christian unless' but If Jesus was not born of a virgin, the prophecy would not be fulfilled, Jesus would be the child of sinful relations, and what the Bible and church had taught for its entire history would be a fabrication. The virgin birth is stated in the earliest known creed, the Apostle's Creed. If the virgin birth is a lie taught by the Bible and the church, what can be known to be true and reliable?
@@moustacheman7130The virgin birth is first mentioned by Matthew and Luke around 50 years after Jesus died. Both tell totally different birth narratives as if both simply made stuff up.
Why would I pray to Osiris, what he did for me? nothing. God give us a way to be better citizen/human and a hope of reuniting in peace & pure love at the end. I chose freely him over everything else. ❤✝️❤️
They came out there to try to beat Cliffe on an intellectual level and failed at it because they didn't have their own "facts" straight. Cliffe has been doing this for a long time I doubt there is anything they could surprise him with or talk about that he isn't knowledgeable about. They should have used this as a learning experience instead they started getting legalistic in their responses because their arguments didn't hold water
But the bible is not intellectual and can never be understood on an intellectual level. The purpose of the Spiritual Letters of the Bible are to bring us to the place where we are the recipients of the revelation of the Father Within/Christ/Immortality, not to worship Matter/Mammon/Form through religious and/or intellectual approaches. A House Divided is the mind that accepts human intellect/form/mortality/religion as Truth and believes in a God separate and apart from their own being!! "Spirit/God is not Governing you as if you were separate and apart from Itself. It is Always Spirit Governing Itself AS your SELF. Spirit does not make mistakes, and can not have an Awareness of mistakes, errors, distortions, handicaps, etc. Spirit Governing Itself as your SELF, maintains Itself in Constant, Perfect, Harmonious Activity. It keeps Itself in perfect relationship as every other Identity in your Universe. There is not a single Identity in your Universe that is not the same Spiritual Consciousness that you are. Spirit maintains Itself in Its Perfect, Orderly Activity as every Identity in your Universe. No Identity in your Universe can get out of Its Right Spiritual Orbit. Neither can It act or function in any way opposite or contrary to the Spirit which is Governing Itself as that Specific Identity." ---Spirit Uncontained
Did it ever occur to you, that it might all have been setup? Cliffe debating / lecturing college kids who do not have the intellectual bagage to know when Cliffe is using pseudiscience to support his claims. Its an uneven playing field here, which cliffe likes as more mainstream debaters (e.g Matt Dillahunty) easily dismantle his claims.
They beat Cliffe every time. The moment he says “Jesus was resurrected”, an outrageous statement that the entire history of man proves wrong, he loses all of his credibility.
Gosh I mean wow the way Cliffe and students have such profound and interesting and intellectual debates/conversations is baffling. Such great points and such great patience. So thankful for this man’s faith and truth-spreading
Love and respect to Cliffe who diligently has and still is doing his homework. Love how he is simple and direct. Most the time I hear him have to repeat his answers, because of the lack of scripture studies by the arguer
Yeah but Buddha definitely did not see The Light. If he did, He would have proclaimed Jesus Christ as His Lord and Savior, but instead he started a cult that leads people to hell... ⚖️ "You shall know them by their fruit." -Jesus
....this guys thoughts on collective consciousness. is right out of the nonsensical concept of the Borg in Star Trek. Trapped in Deceit is a horrible way to die
@@PhilIsaak as in he is just making up whatever he wants off the top of his head and saying "yeah thats quantum science baby" i give him credit for being creative but i dont understand why he is doing that. perhaps he is a narcisst and i hope he finds god.
Well. My takeaway is "the harvest is plentiful and the workers are few." So, I need to get out there and do as Cliffe. Ofcourse as a Christian this video is saf to watch. But these youngsters are not an isolated story. And I think about how Jesus must have felt during His ministry. So, this clip has convinced me even more to continue to share the Gospel and do my little bit. 💜
@@xYz7z you don’t get to say that to him. You don’t know him. You don’t know what exactly he is thinking when he wrote that comment, or how he felt, because you are not him.
I love how Cliffe has discussions with people. He is so respectful of others regardless of their beliefs. He listens to what everyone has to say, applauds them for their questions and thoughts, and then explains his point. He is so knowledgeable, and I just want to learn more and more from him. I watched another debate of his where he was asked a tough question and applauded the person for asking a great question. Then he goes on to explain how he interpreted and worked through his own questions regarding the topic. Thank you Mr. Knechtle because you are reaching so many of us through your videos alone.
It's funny that he wanted to talk about the collective unconscious but he took it way out of context. Carl Jung was at least agnostic, understanding that there is something beyond us. He tried to find an explanation for it, and while I do believe that we experience a collective experience, where does that come from. In my experience of life, I am but an iceberg. Floating in a vast ocean of unconsciousness. Since it says in the Bible that morality is written in our hearts and we collectively understand right vs wrong, it is safe to say that that collective ocean is God's word. Maybe not God himself but his word.
As a man of the bible, he needed to shed light on the pagan tradition of "Sol Invictus" (the birth of the sun - Dec 25) in the Roman empire that has been falsely attached to Christ due to the mixing of paganism and Christianity in the Carholic church. Now, the world falsely celebrates this tradition as the birth of Jesus, the same way "Sunday" is falsely celebrated as the Lord's day. It's no wonder that so many secular rituals are associated with Dec 25.
They rely on their own understanding. It is written : “ Trust in The Lord will all your heart. Acknowledge Him and lean NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING, and He will direct our paths. “ That’s a miracle
@@treytill9437Crowley started nothing. He was perpetually unhappy with the lack of control in his life, starting with his father and mother. He was heavily abused, abandoned, and given up on before he started school. He was evil, yes, as he covorted with evil willingly, eschewed all laws of the Most High, in a pursuit of eternal pleasure. He used Magick created by John Dee, Mage of the 1st Queen Elizabeth. ENOCHIA. Perverted it, mixed it with Hermetic philosophies and Egyptian Magick, and died broke and mad from Siphilis in a public mental hospital....alone. 6th Chamber, I'd imagine.
This is actually the first person I've seen in this channel that actually sounds like he has done a bit of homework on what he believes. Can't even be mad at him honestly, God will bring him home when he's ready and it's a good thing that he's studied other cultures and sounds educated because when he does come home, it'll be a true faith and not something he's just going with because he's been raised that way or just going with the crowd. Still going to shoot a prayer up for him just in case though🙏🏽
There is no guarantee that God will "bring him home". In fact, Scripture tells us that God will allow people like that to have a harden heart and debased mind. I wouldn't want to spend any time talking to him, but I'm glad Cliffe is willing.
@spacecoastz4026 i don't mean physically grab him and force him to follow lol but rather, God will speak to his heart and i pray he accepts the invitation and if not then yes, God will allow you to live for yourself. As for the second part, your desire to speak to him isn't what matters, does he need to be spoken to? Yes. Therefore, it's your obligation to try to attempt to lead him to the father, for those who know the truth but do not spread to their brother or sister in Christian shall be as damned as the person who never knew the word to begin with.
@testodude but it comes from what he's read and i know that because I have read similar things and some of what he said was true but most is based in theory or feeling, which is good to the extent that he seems too want to know the truth rather than just hearing something that made sense and ran with it. He's still has some research and studying to do but which one of us in the comments can say we don't?🤷🏽♂️
This young man is on a journey. Many props to him for hanging in there with Cliffe's genius mind. I hope he finds what he is looking for. I may disagree with his message, but he has a bright future and I know God blesses all those who seek to know through love, grace, compassion, and humility. Great job my friend and keep your light on. God comes to you when you least expect it.
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration" - Nikola Tesla. "The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible. Nature may reach the same result in many ways." also Nikola Tesla.
Nikola Tesla was an incredible genius, way ahead of his time, and he would probably have insane breakthroughs in physics if he had the knowledge that we have. He was also insane.
In the Bible, the trees are mentioned longing for Jesus' second return! They are alive and they suffer because of all the pollution man causes, all living things suffer from our inability to live out a clean eco-system! In our disobedience we are incomplete, we are sickly/deadly wounded because of our disobedience, unable to lift ourselves out of that darkness, the finished work of Jesus is - "I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life! No one comes to the Father but through Me!" So we can only be restored in and through Jesus Christ, there is no other way! ✝
My mother was buying into the crystals have energy deal. So I got 2 brown paper bags, put the crystal in one and a rock in the other. She couldn't tell the difference. Myth Busted. I guess I should stop threatening my flowering plants that if they don't flower I'm going to chop them down. Or maybe they are responding to the threats as they have been flowering pretty well.... who knows.
All Things are Spirit/God in Receptivity to its own Infinite Nature, including crystals and you! Your very Awareness of being your SELF is Simply God Being Aware of Being Itself as your Awareness. You do not have a Consciousness of your Self other than God being Conscious of your Consciousness. You do not have an Awareness of your Body separate and apart from God being Conscious of your Body. God is Aware of Being All there is of You. God is Aware of Being Your Universe, your Identity, and your Body. But God is Also Aware of Being Itself as your Universe, your Identity, and your Body.
@@sudato3502 I've already turned away from the Wide Gate of Material Beliefs about the Infinite, Omnipresent Spiritual Kingdom of God as Jesus did, but I appreciate the Self-Righteousness taught through religious and intellectual beliefs you hold! They are important, UNTIL THEY AREN'T! A House Divided is the mind that accepts human intellect/form/mortality/religion as Truth and believes in a God separate and apart from their own being!! I and My Father are One because the Infinite, Omnipresent Life of God is the Only Life!!
The Wide Gate is Material Belief. Meaning, if you believe you are a mortal form that can be born, decay, and die, you are the Wide Gate! The Narrow Way is Singularity: ONE INFINITE SPIRIT LIVING ONE INFINITE LIFE through Infinite Individualizations of Itself! Whoever does not hate his father and his mother in my way will not be able to be a disciple to me, and whoever does not love his father and his mother in my way will not be able to be a disciple to me. My True Mother gave me Life " 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 This has nothing to do with hating, of course. Actually, what he is saying is that those who do not realize they have neither a human mother nor a human father cannot possibly understand what he is saying. Love those who seem to be your human mother and father, knowing full well they are the same Consciousness you are. Then Jesus goes on to say, "My True Mother gave me Life." "My True Mother" is my Own Being, my Own Consciousness! "Your very Awareness of being your SELF is Simply God Being Aware of Being Itself as your Awareness. You do not have a Consciousness of your Self other than God being Conscious of your Consciousness. You do not have an Awareness of your Body separate and apart from God being Conscious of your Body. God is Aware of Being All there is of You. God is Aware of Being Your Universe, your Identity, and your Body. But God is Also Aware of Being Itself as your Universe, your Identity, and your Body." --The Voice of Spirit Uncontained by material beliefs about Spirit
Boy this kid sounds like Kamala Harris The kid that never studied for a test and showed up and babbled his way through the last essay question pretending that he actually attended class at some point. It’s like when Mike Tyson used to be interviewed and he’d say “well theoretically speaking “ And I’d be like man I like Mike but he doesn’t even know what theoretically means
@@davida282 I was being hyperbolic but Mike obviously is not very educated but he always tried to talk like an Ivy League professor…….it was tongue in cheek Kamala tries to sound intelligent but she just babbles and has no substance I was drawing a parallel She’s like a kid who didn’t study for a test and has an essay question and just makes stuff up as he goes along hoping to sound smart “Are we better off than 4 years ago?” “Look…..I was raised in a middle class home where everyone had a lawn” 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼
Unfortunately I have found people who are generic spiritualist tend to be the hardest to reach. it’s hard to say you’re wrong to yourself when you seem to change as you speak
i really wanted to hear thr response to the last thing the guy said. I’m in a position where i half believe what both of them said. i dont know what i believe and its hard because i dont think there is a way to know anything for sure
He is filling a temporary void by subconsciously speaking about the spirit and heart blindly. But that void would be filled and everything he learned about life and reality would click the light bulb would spark and he would understand the full meaning if he just opened his heart to the word, the spirit of God.
Well, no. He's assuming that because all matter is made of the same energy particles in varying patterns, that because they are all equally a part of the same universe anywhere you go, that they must be connected to the universe, and this all things must be connected and interacting with each other. Aside from gravity, this simply isn't the case.
Phil 2:10-11 "10...every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord..."
Interesting debate. Both get off course a bit but IMO, I like the way the kid uses his critical thinking skill. You often hear the Bible is not to be read and interpreted literally. However, Cliffe contradicts that notion based on his argument about interpretation. Interesting convo
Either the universe is the first cause..or..something beyond the universe is the first cause. If the universe had a beginning then it must have had a Beginner. The evidence leaves us with the following two options: Either No one created something out of nothing (atheistic view) OR Someone created something out of nothing (theistic view). Which view is more reasonable? Because both are miracles themselves…but at least the theistic view has a miracle worker. Atheists say they don’t believe in miracles, yet many believe the universe miraculously created itself out of nothing. So atheists do believe in at least one miracle. They believe no one created something out of nothing. This sounds like it would take more faith if you ask me. Not the Christian view, that has a miracle worker, because that actually makes more sense. It has to be someone. Now you can ask who made the someone? But that’s certainly more reasonable than no one. Nothing comes from nothing. Nothing ever could right? God is the uncaused first cause. How about a more deeper question? If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing at all? If there is no God why does anything exist? What IF the atheist says “well the universe always existed therefore it didn’t need a cause.” If the universe had a beginning space, matter and time literally came into existence out of nothing. This can’t be argued. And what is nothing? Aristotle had a good definition of nothing. He said, “Nothing is what rocks dream about.” Even atheists are saying this too. If this is the case, then the cause must be spaceless, timeless and immaterial. If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing at all? And then you had a universe. What could have caused that? It seems to be if space, time and matter had a beginning, then whatever causes it had to be spaceless, timeless, immaterial, powerful (to create universe out of nothing), personal (in order to make a choice because only a personal cause can choose to go from nothing to creation), and intelligent (to have a mind to make a choice). Now most people will call this description God. But how do we know it’s the Christian God? Because if we keep going through the evidence, or miracles, or the New Testament, and we discover Jesus really rose from the dead, then I think we can confidently say that the same being that walked out of the tomb about 1,993 years ago is the same being in whose divine nature created the universe out of nothing. We have six strong attributes that very well could be the God of the Bible. The problem is the evidence points to the fact the universe is not the first cause. Second law of thermodynamics (universe is running down). So something must have wound it up. We have no energy left right now if the universe was eternal. Universe is expanding. Edwin Hubble detected that in 1929. Everything came from a single point. A point actually of infinite density, the singularity which is actually nothing. So the universe had a beginning. Radiation afterglow, or remnant heat discovered by Penzias and Wilson in 1965. This is literally the smoking gun to the Big Bang. There is remnant heat from the Big Bang still out there. Which shows that the universe had a beginning. The Great Galaxy seeds shows there were very fine temperature variations in that radiation afterglow that allowed galaxies to form in the early universe. Einstein’s theory of general relativity, shows time space and matter all come together at the same time. They literally had a beginning. Einstein knew this in 1916, then observational evidence began in 1919 when Eddington did his test on the eclipse and then Hubble discovered the expanding universe in 1929 and then onto the radiation glow of the great galaxy seeds after that. So the evidence shows the universe is not the first cause. So whatever is beyond the universe must be space less, timeless and immaterial. If you are timeless do you have a beginning? No. So God must be the first cause. Aristotle and Plato knew this too. They knew there had to be an unmoved mover. How do atheists respond to this evidence?
to experience different parts of life....even though God created the life, He still needs to experience it...even after putting it all together and knowing what everything is down to the quantum state, but still has to experience algebra...
I actually agree with the last guys argument that all things have some type of consciousness because God created everything and science is proving that things aren’t void. Luke 19:40. He says that he isn’t fully on board with the Big Bang. Why? Because science is proving otherwise.
He believes in all the good things every religion has minus the idea of a god. You can't have your cake and eat it. There are a bunch of people like him who think they get a free ticket to heaven without putting in the work.
Nothing, and that’s the main point with these type of guys. It’s all interactions and forever open ended..they don’t believe in anything solidly, they believe in everything loosely and just sure they just don’t believe in Jesus Christ.
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I’d like to think that Jesus never mentioned when he was born because it doesn’t matter. What matters is that he BORN himself into this world to save us from eternal damnation! THANK YOU JESUS! ❤
crazy he mentions frequency, one of the most complex things we know that does connect everything on a certain level...i guess that just appeared out of the collective consciousness...
So these are the type of people in Universities these days😂😂😂😂 The debate has no point I think we should start examining his previous results in high school
There always was, and always will be, these types of people at colleges and universities. They stay the same; it's the topics that change. For some reason it seems to some extent or another everyone becomes an intellectual towards the end of their freshman year. Most outgrow it over time when their journey to self-awareness brings them to the point there they finally realize their ignorance, but others become philosophy majors.
@@mrnelsonmandelamark Agree. But the self-confidence w/ which he did it with, talking as if very few have ever heard it before about no matter and only sound waves - inspiring. And he did throw in God now and then but caught himself and knew it made him sound like he was agreeing in part so he corrected himself. He did basically talk himself into a circle.
The most disappointing thing about these children, is that they don’t argue to find common ground, but to reject. Even if you prove them wrong, they’ll not change their thoughts.
No one knows the exact date Jesus was born. December 25 was picked because there was a pagan festival celebrated then and Christians took it over to bring attention to Christ's birth. Let's face it, who knew the date celebrated that pagfan festival. But everyone knows the birth of Christ. Christmas and Easter are great evangelist tools. More people are open to being exposed to Christ at those times of year, and so may become saved. It doesn't matter when Christ was born. It just matters that He was born and later died for our sins. That is why we celebrate.
We are to worship God in Spirit and in truth. There is no truth in Christmas. It is a pagan celebration of the unconquerable sun god. Pagans worship their god on that day through the winter solstice. We are not to worship God as the heathens do. When followers of Jesus Christ celebrate on the 25th of December they are offering and dedicating their spiritual energy and worship to that false pagan deity. Simply partaking in a yearly pagan ritual and putting Jesus's name on it does not make it honourable or good anymore than it would to attend a séance and dedicate it to Jesus or attend a satanic mass or other pagan ritual like Halloween and celebrate it in the name of Jesus. The unconquerable sun god is the Antichrist and the false light. And people worship him every year on Dec 25th. This is the truth. People love Christmas more than the truth. There is no truth in Christmas, only deception and lies. I woke up to this 4 years ago and stopped observing all pagan holidays. They are evil. Satans primary tool is deception and the followers of Jesus have been decieved into celebrating the birth of the antichrist on Dec 25th. Those who chose the day did so for a specific reason, to continue the worship of their false sun god. It was never to evangelise the pagans. The Apostles never took part in pagan holidays and rituals to evangelise pagans nor did they instruct anyone to. Wolves in sheeps clothing infiltrated the church to steal the worship of Jesus to worship of the false light of the antichrist, the pagan sun god.
Actually if you look at the evidence Jesus might have been conceived on December 25 or sometime right during the time period. If you go to the Gospel of Luke 1: 5 if you read it, it speaks of the time or course of Abia. Abia was a priest in the Old Testament his course if I remember right was the eight and if you follow through with the fact that John the Baptist was six months in the womb before God sent Gabriel to speak to Mary and factor in the 6 months gap between John the Baptist birth and Jesus birth it is right around December or January.Its a Bible that goes into detail about how Jesus just might have been conceived around that time period. The Bible is the Companion Bible King James Version Appendix 179 it goes into great detail about this subject.
Facts a demon was born on Christmas because Christmas came from paganism facts and its a sin to celebrate paganism and the fact you dishonor yeshua by celebrate his birthday on the same day a demon was born Christians really need to start studying the Bible
@@Wolfhybrids I know, when I tell people he lived in another part of the world not America I always get funny look. So I guess if the intention is not bad. Your right but history of December 25 is still dark. So God's hand right
Yes, it is a pagan ritual in it's entirety. God never revealed the birth date of Christ because he didn't want us to have a propensity towards calendrical dates or celestial events...but who does have a propensity towards calendrical dates AND celestial events, pagans haha. There is only one holy day which is the 7th day, Sabbath day and man cannot make a day holy, it's sad so many people live in error and dont want to live righteously. Just like John 14:15 illustrates, if you love me keep my commandments . Christ died on the 6th day and rose on day 1 which is Sunday . The Roman emperor Constantine started the nonsense of changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. It was the first documented civil credence in human history and he essentially paganized Christianity just like all he other "holidays" aren't holidays and all have ties to paganism. Nice to know that you understand the error of X-mas and know it isn't of God. God dislikes syncretism and if people cared or knew enough they would stay away from that stuff. We saw how God deals with syncretism in the book of Deuteronomy and also what happened to Cain when God directed him to do something as an act of worship but Cain did what in his own mind he "thought" was just as good. People seem to forget God is very particular and it's understandable because humans are made in his image and we are too. We have preferences for how things are to be done and handled in our own house but on the Earth God created people think they can just worship God however "they" want and it doesn't matter. Sorry for the rant I just love talking about God and it's sad to see that others like the man in this video are still in error, he mentioned the earth being created billions of years ago. That would make the book of Genesis false 😅
To me the important thing is "Yeshua was born" "died" and "Resurrected" I don't care when He did it, just that He did it cause he loves me. ❤ Thank you Yeshua 🙏
He is right even if you check what's written. You won't see nothing about Jesus being born on December 25th. Romans attached it to their Saturnalia festival.
He’s just a young man trying to figure out his beliefs. We have to ask questions to gain our own understanding. I applaud this kid for having a calm and honest conversation about this and allowing himself to be challenged. Christ is King. I love you all ✝️🩵
The kid is right at.9:40 God is everyone.. Jesus tells you so.John 10:34-35 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, You are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;..
What kills me? Is people think that they had the ability to just grab a pen and paper or their phone and record everything that happened. These were people who did not know how to read and write. They didn’t have access to pen and paper every day. And they did not have Cell phones. This was 2000 years ago. The cell phone is only 30 years old.
This is something me and my family have come to realize there is so much mixing and mingling of different religions. So to say it doesn’t matter that Jesus was born on December 25th… yes it does matter look at Revelation 3:15-16 God despises Lukewarm behavior. All these Gods being born on this same day and Jesus’ birth according to tradition being then isn’t a coincidence. God’s calendar is so different to the modern day world it is eye opening how Jesus’ big events correlate with the Old Testament feasts. When the modern day church says Jesus’ sacrifice means no more Old Testament and law no He came to fulfill it and make a way for us to follow it and be with the Father. As believers be diligent and always be alert because things like this can throw you off without realizing it. Look at March 7 321 AD Constantine changed the Sabbath from the Seventh day Saturday to SUNDAY coincidence I think not
The truth will find this young man eventually. Some solid seeds planted there that will no doubt grow into faith in Jesus. “For nothing is hidden that will not be revealed, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light.”Luke 8:17 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth, Philippians 2:10
I thought only in college you'd see all this disbelief in God, I'm seeing that a whole lot more people are falling into disbelief. May God reach them at their point and accept Him. Cliffe is the best debater I've seen
Some people have the ability to listen to someone go on and on with nonsense and drivel... Circular "arguments" with no point or basis in truth, but only their own thoughts... Cliffe, I'm not one of those people... But I praise Yah that you are one of those people who are kind enough and knowledgeable enough to possibly plant the seed in these individuals... May Abba Yah Bless and Keep You...
Christmas is actually based on a pagan holiday, which I believe is called Yule. In fact, most holidays if not all, are based on pagan gods. Easter is Ishtar, Halloween is celtic, etc etc. Which is likely why Jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate holidays. Not saying their beliefs are entirely correct, because I don't know all of their beliefs, but yeah.
I’m glad he’s brave enough to ask these sets of questions or share his Framing of reality out loud in public. Many people who think like him would not be as courageous and forthcoming. So he’s able to help people who perceive the same way he does. He’s helping a lot of people who want answers. I often feel too dumb and too far behind to ask questions. So his courage helps me consider asking questions. However the comment section has me wanting to make sure I never do ask the questions out loud, due to their lack of acceptance toward him
"God speaks something and then science runs to catch up with what He said. Science doesn't create anything. Science studies creation. God didn't come to be. He is eternal the way a lot of people thought the universe was until science dispoved it. Therefore, God IS the cause, and the universe is the effect. God is eternal. He is capable of existing outside of space, time and matter." Edit: credit Chyna ❤
I have read there are questions/issues with all the various claims regarding our Lord's day of birth. As a Christian I don't see that it matters. Personally I think the gospel of John provides the best timeline. The first Feast mentioned was the Passover. Jesus began His ministry at age 30, was baptized by John, then traveled north, preaching; but did not remain long. He and His disciples then went to Jerusalem for the Passover; end of March or early April. This would place His birth date around the end of February or early March. In addition, end of February/early March was the usual time the shepherds lead their flocks into the countryside. As well, there were 3 harvests per year, including a spring grain harvest. Remember the Jewish leadership criticized His disciples for going through the fields eating with "unwashed hands" shortly after He began His ministry.
I like how Cliff lets people just talk without interrupting. The more they try to defend their view, the more they start to lose it.
Who was it that said “Never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.”
Napoleon Bonaparte
@@bugen5 I'm not sure but King Solomon said , " Do not answer to a fool or you sound just like him. Answer a fool and he will think he is wiser than you."
Ohh tq
@@baalhearde4618 only if they constantly denying the truth
@@wretchedpoorboy I practice the virtue of silence. I only speak when necessary and there are times especially today where it's best to not engage with fools. If they are using profanity or vulgarity within the first few sentences, it's a tell tale sign that person has an impure heart and is effeminate at least in the realm of modesty because that's what's currently evident. As an embassador of Christ we should use discernment to know who we ought to correct and who not to because if correct someone who we can sense isn't going to adhere to correction, we become culpable for making the situation worse which will more than likely happen if dealing with someone who hasn't even cared to tame their tongue. Romans 1:28 "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge but fools have a disdain for wisdom and instruction" Proverbs 13:1 "Wise men heed instruction but fools reject correction."
Cliffe is so dope. He certainly has the patience and overwhelming knowledge to debate all the blind in all these universities. Praise GOD. Uses Cliffe in a mighty way.
Amen to your powerful comment l agree with you 💯% God blessing be upon you and your entire family in a very special way
Except he can’t prove anything he says.
I like that Cliffe is open enough to support all Christians regardless of whether he personally agrees with their denomination. Squabbling over interpretations of things that are not the basic nuts and bolts of belief isn't fruitful, it's divisive.
Prove a subatomic particle exists. Then get back.
@@sleepinggorillaexcept that he can and does!
He wasn't born on Dec. 25, it was just canonized by the Catholic chu
it all boils down to one thing-they refuse to give God the glory bc they don't want to obey!
first he says there is no God, then he says we're all God!
Don't obey to tyrants.
Yup that's correct for sure they won't admit it
Bingo
Amen 🙏 Psalm 14:1 The Fool says in his heart there is no God
“We are all Gods”
is exactly what satan wants you to believe.
I thought the same, that is the downfall og mankind when everybody thinks they are god!
John 10:14 and psalms 82:6 says that we are gods. Indeed, we are gods but we are not God. We are gods to nature and animals are we not? Jesus says that he is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords for a reason. Quantum physics, according to him, seems to align with the Bible without him realizing it since he doesn’t study the Bible.
Nope what satan wants you to believe is that christianity is true
@@O_tropos If christianity isnt true, there is no Satan, therefore your statement is a total nonsense
@@MuscledSugar what a load of nonsense 😅 christianity is a false believe but satan is real in fact christianity comes from satan. Remember satan and his followers come as the angel of light. Christianity seems like light but it is not
Kid..." Plants CAN'T FEEL pain if I cut them up"
Also kid... "a tree CAN FEEL love"
😂 good one
Wow great point 😅
Good point it shows that what this young man is saying doesn't make any sense we have to pray for his him
Nope you missed it. By the kids logic applied to your reasoning plants can feel OUR pain, or more precisely the emotion that results from pain. Physical pain and love are different. The emotions of pain are anger, sadness and despair.
The same study the kid is talking about measured that also and found that plants exposed to people experiencing feelings of emotional "distress" cause plants to grow slower and have less yield.
But No... Plants don't have a nervous system so they don't feel physical pain when you cut them. Who knows, maybe they feel emotional joy when we consume them as the just fulfilled Gods purpose and now don't have to be a cabbage anymore.
@@ArcAngel1156 how long have you been gardening?
All I can say is we need to pray for that young man.
Just because he's stupid and can't understand physics? I say we make him study harder.
I enjoyed this conversation and thought the young man held his own quite well... I believe in god and Christ and I think the only part where the young man is wrong is that we individually are not god and collectively are also not god. But god does share our consciousness and experiences everything we do along with us how else could god see and know everything and judge us and know what is in our hearts unless he is along for the ride with all of us? When we accept god we accept his spirit in us and he is with us from then on. I think if someone brought this idea to him he may accept it because it compliments his world view.
Maybe he is right .maybe jesus sayed that to.that out souls are part of gods energy and thats why jesus sayed that only way to god is our soul our heart .jesus came to tell us how to conect with god and we are part of him .he didnt came to take out sins that doesnt make sense .he came to save us from our distance with god
So Sad the guy with the Back Pack is trying to project himself as intelligent! The only thing he came close to getting Right was , his comments on a rock and us being the same!!!
Yes we are ALL DIRT, we came from Dirt , when The LORD GOD formed ADAM from the DUST OF THE EARTH,and breathed into him the Breathe of Life!
The Back Packer needs to go back more and ask the Intellectual Question without personal bios , " WHERE DID THE DIRT COME FROM? WHO MADE THE DIRT? "
Cause and Effect! 🤔
In Order for there to be an Effect, there must first be a Cause!😊
That Cause of All thing's, Is GOD GENESIS 1:1 🙌🙏
@@deepipact8368 jesus Sayed God is everywhere he is within everything
Cliff's ability to respect some of these people he talks to is quite admirable.
I love Cliffe Knetchle because he really knows his history. You can tell he really enjoys what he does.
Yepz agree
I get what he's saying, but still. Jesus could absolutely have been born on December 25th. He wasn't there and there's no mention of the date of Jesus' birth in the Bible.
Gospels are historical, not history. Cliffe uses deceptive, logical fallacies and I am happy to see that these young people aren’t buying his snake-oil.
@@sleepinggorillalmao the kid is literally talking out his ass 🤣 he's making it all up
@@sleepinggorillaI always notice the one thing, people like you, never include in their accusations. Examples of fallacies and deceptions. You could actually be the first person to reply back to me with those examples but we will see.
This kid is very creative. His version had me chuckling so many times. The energy he used to find a way to deny God was interesting.
That's how I feel about Chrstians. We have something in common
@@thac0twenty377cool story 😎
@soulrebelstudios3185 and that's all and of it is. Good to agree
@@thac0twenty377if Christianity were proven true, to your standards, would you become one?.
@jelly7310 what part? Because you all pick and choose which parts suit you, follow those, put down people that see it other ways, argue this point and that point. You can't all be right eh?
“Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.”
Proverbs 26:4-5
I know a few people like that and they never seem to be able to see past their own delusions, you're talking to a brick wall. Best to show them the truth by example compassion and patience.
Proverbs 26. KJV
:4
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
:5
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Proverbs 26: KJV
4-5
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
[5] Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Right. Cliffe has a well prepared, singular argument, he is very good at debating. Trying to beat him at his own nonsense will not bear fruit.
This guy argues against the gospels because he says they are based off of other peoples interpretations. Isn’t he doing just that by subscribing to these scientific ideas? I doubt he himself has conducted these experiments and yet he is basing his thinking off of the interpretations of these other people.
You're right, when money is involved, studies are quite prone to be falsified. But then, the same can be said about religion.
However, that science works can be proved. With no science, you wouldn't be writing here.
@@haitaelpastor976 You’re right, a lot of science is provable, doesn’t mean all science is. A lot of science is hypothesis or theory and subject to changing as time passes.
@@marccuffe6392 Science is the method, not the hypothesis or fact that must be proved. Of course, in the light of new discoveries, theories change and new applications are open.
@@haitaelpastor976 and how often are scientific hypotheses and theories purported to be fact and taught in schools as if they were fact only to be disproven later? What about these quantum mechanics this kid is talking about in the video? How none of physical reality is real and light waves collapse upon us perceiving or viewing them to make things appear solid? Or whatever the kid was saying as he stomped on the ground as he was saying it and treating it as fact. What about the science or the “method” that has been used to determine this to be true. Highly complex ideas being purported to be fact based upon a field very few know very little about.
@@marccuffe6392 Because the education system is nuts.
That poor panthesis. He has been so misled by his teachers. Only God can change that harden heart.
God needs to be real first...
@@wilcowiersma9465 already is and already has changed many other people’s hearts
This boy wouldn’t be the first nor the last
@@wilcowiersma9465
Psalms 53:1
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.”
@@sixonthehang He's so uncomfortable with what Cliffe is saying. It's so weird to see.
Apostle Paul was much worse but God really works in mysterious ways He turned Paul around and spread the word of God! So, you’ll never know Jesus may softens this young man’s heart and be like Paul. 🙏🏼
Ok! Didn't understand what the kid was on about in the end. 😂😂😂. Cliff is very patient. What a cool guy.
Important Jesus was born.
Not important whether it was In September or December.
I may not believe that Jesus was born in December but I completely agree with you it doesn't really matter. Christmas is always a great time to be around the family regardless if you're a Christian Muslim Jew atheist it's always a nice time of the year.
Yes it is important. He was conceived during Passover and born during sukkoth. Very important to know. Your faith is dead.
@@Michael-zi3kkpagan holiday. It's a sin and considered lawless.
@@Michael-zi3kk very few make it to the kingdom and you being a pagan aren't of the few.
Agreed as he was Bron and we are celebrating him it shouldn't matter
Am glad am alive witnessing this immense knowledge from Mr cliffe knechtle God bless you sir
The guy talking about consciousness, is talking nonsense and new age mumbo jumbo. He's totally lost.
100% I wonder if he took this from somewhere or made it up on the spot.
He comes across as a nut job. I hope he never owns a firearm.
Complete fail of quantum mechanics
He is plain stupid
Not only is it nonsense, it's ridiculously complex nonsense. And if the observer is the same thing as the observed, then how can there be different interpretations?
Kid said a WHOLE LOT of NOTHING, 😂😂🤣🤣🤦♂️
You can say that again
The arrogance of those who only get info from the internet and have no thoughts of their own
Only a FOOL says there is no God
I once was blind but now a see
Jesus is king 👑 😇
the only problem wasa that he rushed it , but he had a good point... Luke, Mark and the other two arent first hand eyewitness accounts, Luke Didnt write the Book Of Luke, theres questionable authorship, cause the Manuscripts are in Greek.. Luke was Hebrews, not to mention the manuscripts found arent from 1AD, as Cliffe bluntly lies about, its 80CE , 2 whole generations after the death of Jesus (Supposed)
Out of body, present with Christ. Every knee shall bow, every mouth will confess.
If you reject truth, you will believe anything.
I don't know what's more impressive... this pastor's knowledge or the patience he has in arguing with a college student that sounds more like a middle schooler arguing.
I studied mythology. Specifically Egyptian, Greek, and Celtic. Besides the birthday everything the 1st student said about Horus is incorrect. Not only is it wrong, there's no evidence in story nor archeology to support the claim.
I was about to say the same thing. I knew Horus was resurrected, but in no point was he crucified
@@remveel2443 Osiris is the only God in the Egyptian pantheon to be killed and resurrected. Horus, like Atum ( the creator ), is immortal in all ways. Horus and the sun god Ra do merge at some point and the dawn is referred to as being born anew each day. I believe that's where many people get mixed up at. But he never dies to be resurrected, only Osiris. Egyptian mythology is rather wild I mean Atum gives birth to himself before creation to create lol so it can be difficult to keep up with
Spirit of Truth will tell you what is right and what is wrong. For example I don't have to believe virgin story in order to be Jesus' student. Good stories in books have their purpose, which is for me to dug deep and understand Jesus better.
@@simonsong1743 Im not saying 'you arent a real Christian unless' but If Jesus was not born of a virgin, the prophecy would not be fulfilled, Jesus would be the child of sinful relations, and what the Bible and church had taught for its entire history would be a fabrication. The virgin birth is stated in the earliest known creed, the Apostle's Creed. If the virgin birth is a lie taught by the Bible and the church, what can be known to be true and reliable?
@@moustacheman7130The virgin birth is first mentioned by Matthew and Luke around 50 years after Jesus died. Both tell totally different birth narratives as if both simply made stuff up.
Why would I pray to Osiris, what he did for me? nothing. God give us a way to be better citizen/human and a hope of reuniting in peace & pure love at the end. I chose freely him over everything else. ❤✝️❤️
They came out there to try to beat Cliffe on an intellectual level and failed at it because they didn't have their own "facts" straight. Cliffe has been doing this for a long time I doubt there is anything they could surprise him with or talk about that he isn't knowledgeable about. They should have used this as a learning experience instead they started getting legalistic in their responses because their arguments didn't hold water
But the bible is not intellectual and can never be understood on an intellectual level.
The purpose of the Spiritual Letters of the Bible are to bring us to the place where we are the recipients of the revelation of the Father Within/Christ/Immortality, not to worship Matter/Mammon/Form through religious and/or intellectual approaches.
A House Divided is the mind that accepts human intellect/form/mortality/religion as Truth and believes in a God separate and apart from their own being!!
"Spirit/God is not Governing you as if you were separate and apart from Itself. It is Always Spirit Governing Itself AS your SELF. Spirit does not make mistakes, and can not have an Awareness of mistakes, errors, distortions, handicaps, etc. Spirit Governing Itself as your SELF, maintains Itself in Constant, Perfect, Harmonious Activity. It keeps Itself in perfect relationship as every other Identity in your Universe. There is not a single Identity in your Universe that is not the same Spiritual Consciousness that you are. Spirit maintains Itself in Its Perfect, Orderly Activity as every Identity in your Universe. No Identity in your Universe can get out of Its Right Spiritual Orbit. Neither can It act or function in any way opposite or contrary to the Spirit which is Governing Itself as that Specific Identity."
---Spirit Uncontained
Did it ever occur to you, that it might all have been setup? Cliffe debating / lecturing college kids who do not have the intellectual bagage to know when Cliffe is using pseudiscience to support his claims. Its an uneven playing field here, which cliffe likes as more mainstream debaters (e.g Matt Dillahunty) easily dismantle his claims.
They beat Cliffe every time. The moment he says “Jesus was resurrected”, an outrageous statement that the entire history of man proves wrong, he loses all of his credibility.
@@sleepinggorilla and what's your proof on Jesus not resurrecting
Gosh I mean wow the way Cliffe and students have such profound and interesting and intellectual debates/conversations is baffling. Such great points and such great patience. So thankful for this man’s faith and truth-spreading
Love and respect to Cliffe who diligently has and still is doing his homework. Love how he is simple and direct. Most the time I hear him have to repeat his answers, because of the lack of scripture studies by the arguer
Buddha says :
"I see the LIGHT".
About the one many call Jesus Christ he says :
He is the LIGHT".
Yeah but Buddha definitely did not see The Light.
If he did, He would have proclaimed Jesus Christ as His Lord and Savior, but instead he started a cult that leads people to hell...
⚖️
"You shall know them by their fruit."
-Jesus
....this guys thoughts on collective consciousness. is right out of the nonsensical concept of the Borg in Star Trek. Trapped in Deceit is a horrible way to die
I figured he got it from Carl Jung or even by being a Tool fan
This guy just wants to be a Borg and he probably should move to Russia where they want people to obey and be communist zombies
That guy in the blue top has some serious malfunction.
The light blue button up shirt. Yeah, he's full of it!
@@mirandahotspring4019how so? Please elaborate
How so? Please elaborate
@@mirandahotspring4019 ok you genius, give me an example
@@PhilIsaak as in he is just making up whatever he wants off the top of his head and saying "yeah thats quantum science baby" i give him credit for being creative but i dont understand why he is doing that.
perhaps he is a narcisst and i hope he finds god.
This is great ! We need these youthful minds to care enough to learn and debate
Well. My takeaway is "the harvest is plentiful and the workers are few." So, I need to get out there and do as Cliffe. Ofcourse as a Christian this video is saf to watch. But these youngsters are not an isolated story. And I think about how Jesus must have felt during His ministry. So, this clip has convinced me even more to continue to share the Gospel and do my little bit. 💜
Poor young man...he is so self-absorbed in his own mind and self that he really is disconnected from any semblance of reality :(
Stop projecting.. he is not you
@@xYz7z what?? Does that even make sense??
@@cristiansoto2268 one cannot know another.. one only knows oneself through others.
@@xYz7z you don’t get to say that to him. You don’t know him. You don’t know what exactly he is thinking when he wrote that comment, or how he felt, because you are not him.
That's called a Dunning Kruger
Cliffe did a wonderful job and dealing with this kid's madness.
The kid's like a pharisee, all words and bluster but no substance.
Sometimes that's all it takes for people.
I love how Cliffe has discussions with people. He is so respectful of others regardless of their beliefs. He listens to what everyone has to say, applauds them for their questions and thoughts, and then explains his point. He is so knowledgeable, and I just want to learn more and more from him. I watched another debate of his where he was asked a tough question and applauded the person for asking a great question. Then he goes on to explain how he interpreted and worked through his own questions regarding the topic. Thank you Mr. Knechtle because you are reaching so many of us through your videos alone.
…. The patience needed with this child is biblical in itself lol 😂
Jesus resurrected 3 days later! Hallelujah 🙌 it's true 👏✝️
It's really true.
According to the Bible, he resurrected on the third day of his death. Died on Good Friday and rose on Easter Sunday. That’s two days later.
Dude literally made up his own God to say that God isn’t real
It's funny that he wanted to talk about the collective unconscious but he took it way out of context. Carl Jung was at least agnostic, understanding that there is something beyond us. He tried to find an explanation for it, and while I do believe that we experience a collective experience, where does that come from. In my experience of life, I am but an iceberg. Floating in a vast ocean of unconsciousness. Since it says in the Bible that morality is written in our hearts and we collectively understand right vs wrong, it is safe to say that that collective ocean is God's word. Maybe not God himself but his word.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1 KJV)
As a man of the bible, he needed to shed light on the pagan tradition of "Sol Invictus" (the birth of the sun - Dec 25) in the Roman empire that has been falsely attached to Christ due to the mixing of paganism and Christianity in the Carholic church. Now, the world falsely celebrates this tradition as the birth of Jesus, the same way "Sunday" is falsely celebrated as the Lord's day. It's no wonder that so many secular rituals are associated with Dec 25.
They rely on their own understanding.
It is written : “ Trust in The Lord will all your heart. Acknowledge Him and lean NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING, and He will direct our paths. “
That’s a miracle
He's lost
He is deceived as well!Aleister Crowley started all this.
The DAY has not come yet. NOBODY IS LOST.
@@treytill9437Crowley started nothing. He was perpetually unhappy with the lack of control in his life, starting with his father and mother. He was heavily abused, abandoned, and given up on before he started school. He was evil, yes, as he covorted with evil willingly, eschewed all laws of the Most High, in a pursuit of eternal pleasure. He used Magick created by John Dee, Mage of the 1st Queen Elizabeth. ENOCHIA. Perverted it, mixed it with Hermetic philosophies and Egyptian Magick, and died broke and mad from Siphilis in a public mental hospital....alone. 6th Chamber, I'd imagine.
He watched too many cartoons
Too too many. Warped his perception of reality and non. 😂
This is actually the first person I've seen in this channel that actually sounds like he has done a bit of homework on what he believes. Can't even be mad at him honestly, God will bring him home when he's ready and it's a good thing that he's studied other cultures and sounds educated because when he does come home, it'll be a true faith and not something he's just going with because he's been raised that way or just going with the crowd. Still going to shoot a prayer up for him just in case though🙏🏽
Very well said!
There is no guarantee that God will "bring him home". In fact, Scripture tells us that God will allow people like that to have a harden heart and debased mind. I wouldn't want to spend any time talking to him, but I'm glad Cliffe is willing.
Nearly everything that kid was was wrong. Not philosophically wrong. Historically wrong.
@spacecoastz4026 i don't mean physically grab him and force him to follow lol but rather, God will speak to his heart and i pray he accepts the invitation and if not then yes, God will allow you to live for yourself. As for the second part, your desire to speak to him isn't what matters, does he need to be spoken to? Yes. Therefore, it's your obligation to try to attempt to lead him to the father, for those who know the truth but do not spread to their brother or sister in Christian shall be as damned as the person who never knew the word to begin with.
@testodude but it comes from what he's read and i know that because I have read similar things and some of what he said was true but most is based in theory or feeling, which is good to the extent that he seems too want to know the truth rather than just hearing something that made sense and ran with it. He's still has some research and studying to do but which one of us in the comments can say we don't?🤷🏽♂️
This young man is on a journey. Many props to him for hanging in there with Cliffe's genius mind.
I hope he finds what he is looking for. I may disagree with his message, but he has a bright future and I know God blesses all those who seek to know through love, grace, compassion, and humility.
Great job my friend and keep your light on. God comes to you when you least expect it.
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration" - Nikola Tesla.
"The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible. Nature may reach the same result in many ways." also Nikola Tesla.
Nikola Tesla was an incredible genius, way ahead of his time, and he would probably have insane breakthroughs in physics if he had the knowledge that we have.
He was also insane.
In the Bible, the trees are mentioned longing for Jesus' second return! They are alive and they suffer because of all the pollution man causes, all living things suffer from our inability to live out a clean eco-system! In our disobedience we are incomplete, we are sickly/deadly wounded because of our disobedience, unable to lift ourselves out of that darkness, the finished work of Jesus is - "I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life! No one comes to the Father but through Me!" So we can only be restored in and through Jesus Christ, there is no other way! ✝
The Bible also says that Christ would come back before one generation had passed, and here we are, waiting?
@@haitaelpastor976you're both wrong. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that.
@@haitaelpastor976Jesus told us that we will not know the time of His coming. He will come like a thief in the night.
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My mother was buying into the crystals have energy deal. So I got 2 brown paper bags, put the crystal in one and a rock in the other. She couldn't tell the difference. Myth Busted. I guess I should stop threatening my flowering plants that if they don't flower I'm going to chop them down. Or maybe they are responding to the threats as they have been flowering pretty well.... who knows.
All Things are Spirit/God in Receptivity to its own Infinite Nature, including crystals and you!
Your very Awareness of being your SELF is Simply God Being Aware of Being Itself as your Awareness. You do not have a Consciousness of your Self other than God being Conscious of your Consciousness. You do not have an Awareness of your Body separate and apart from God being Conscious of your Body. God is Aware of Being All there is of You. God is Aware of Being Your Universe, your Identity, and your Body. But God is Also Aware of Being Itself as your Universe, your Identity, and your Body.
@@ISATŌP1 Repent and believe in Gospel
@@sudato3502 I've already turned away from the Wide Gate of Material Beliefs about the Infinite, Omnipresent Spiritual Kingdom of God as Jesus did, but I appreciate the Self-Righteousness taught through religious and intellectual beliefs you hold! They are important, UNTIL THEY AREN'T!
A House Divided is the mind that accepts human intellect/form/mortality/religion as Truth and believes in a God separate and apart from their own being!!
I and My Father are One because the Infinite, Omnipresent Life of God is the Only Life!!
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@sudato3502 There's ONE Law...
Spirit is the Only Presence!!
I Am, and there is Nothing else!!
Lord have mercy. A lot of people are on an express train heading down the broad road leading to the wide gate.
The Wide Gate is Material Belief. Meaning, if you believe you are a mortal form that can be born, decay, and die, you are the Wide Gate! The Narrow Way is Singularity: ONE INFINITE SPIRIT LIVING ONE INFINITE LIFE through Infinite Individualizations of Itself!
Whoever does not hate his father and his mother in my way will not be able to be a disciple to me, and whoever does not love his father and his mother in my way will not be able to be a disciple to me. My True Mother gave me Life "
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This has nothing to do with hating, of course. Actually, what he is saying is that those who do not realize they have neither a human mother nor a human father cannot possibly understand what he is saying. Love those who seem to be your human mother and father, knowing full well they are the same Consciousness you are. Then Jesus goes on to say, "My True Mother gave me Life." "My True Mother" is my Own Being, my Own Consciousness!
"Your very Awareness of being your SELF is Simply God Being Aware of Being Itself as your Awareness. You do not have a Consciousness of your Self other than God being Conscious of your Consciousness. You do not have an Awareness of your Body separate and apart from God being Conscious of your Body. God is Aware of Being All there is of You. God is Aware of Being Your Universe, your Identity, and your Body. But God is Also Aware of Being Itself as your Universe, your Identity, and your Body."
--The Voice of Spirit Uncontained by material beliefs about Spirit
better than belonging in an asylum
I am from the ASIA, this culture of free debate I like in the west...
Praise the Lord for giving an excellent useful msg. GLORY TO GOD.
Boy this kid sounds like Kamala Harris
The kid that never studied for a test and showed up and babbled his way through the last essay question pretending that he actually attended class at some point. It’s like when Mike Tyson used to be interviewed and he’d say “well theoretically speaking “
And I’d be like man I like Mike but he doesn’t even know what theoretically means
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Word salad🤦♀️
@@triley1709 it’s unreal isn’t it?
@phillsaak...How do you know Mike Tyson doesn't know what theoretically means??And how does he sound like Kamala Harris??I wanna know.
@@davida282 I was being hyperbolic but Mike obviously is not very educated but he always tried to talk like an Ivy League professor…….it was tongue in cheek
Kamala tries to sound intelligent but she just babbles and has no substance
I was drawing a parallel
She’s like a kid who didn’t study for a test and has an essay question and just makes stuff up as he goes along hoping to sound smart
“Are we better off than 4 years ago?”
“Look…..I was raised in a middle class home where everyone had a lawn”
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Everyone in the comments is saying he is lost and so on and so on,
But in my view,
He is in the perfect position to receive a vision from God.
I agree but I also agree that he said a lot of nonsense 😂
Unfortunately I have found people who are generic spiritualist tend to be the hardest to reach. it’s hard to say you’re wrong to yourself when you seem to change as you speak
He lacks the humility necessary to open that door. God doesn’t foist himself upon those who are in a state of total denial.
i really wanted to hear thr response to the last thing the guy said.
I’m in a position where i half believe what both of them said. i dont know what i believe and its hard because i dont think there is a way to know anything for sure
He is filling a temporary void by subconsciously speaking about the spirit and heart blindly. But that void would be filled and everything he learned about life and reality would click the light bulb would spark and he would understand the full meaning if he just opened his heart to the word, the spirit of God.
This dude is talking about the Borg. From star trek
Resistance is futile. Lol
yes......thank you for the reminder about the Borg
stupidity, I mean resistance is futile...lol
@@iansmith3261 ha ha
Well, no. He's assuming that because all matter is made of the same energy particles in varying patterns, that because they are all equally a part of the same universe anywhere you go, that they must be connected to the universe, and this all things must be connected and interacting with each other. Aside from gravity, this simply isn't the case.
Phil 2:10-11 "10...every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord..."
Interesting debate. Both get off course a bit but IMO, I like the way the kid uses his critical thinking skill. You often hear the Bible is not to be read and interpreted literally. However, Cliffe contradicts that notion based on his argument about interpretation. Interesting convo
Either the universe is the first cause..or..something beyond the universe is the first cause.
If the universe had a beginning then it must have had a Beginner.
The evidence leaves us with the following two options:
Either No one created something out of nothing (atheistic view)
OR
Someone created something out of nothing (theistic view).
Which view is more reasonable?
Because both are miracles themselves…but at least the theistic view has a miracle worker.
Atheists say they don’t believe in miracles, yet many believe the universe miraculously created itself out of nothing. So atheists do believe in at least one miracle. They believe no one created something out of nothing. This sounds like it would take more faith if you ask me.
Not the Christian view, that has a miracle worker, because that actually makes more sense.
It has to be someone. Now you can ask who made the someone? But that’s certainly more reasonable than no one. Nothing comes from nothing. Nothing ever could right? God is the uncaused first cause.
How about a more deeper question?
If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing at all? If there is no God why does anything exist?
What IF the atheist says “well the universe always existed therefore it didn’t need a cause.”
If the universe had a beginning space, matter and time literally came into existence out of nothing. This can’t be argued.
And what is nothing? Aristotle had a good definition of nothing. He said, “Nothing is what rocks dream about.”
Even atheists are saying this too. If this is the case, then the cause must be spaceless, timeless and immaterial. If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing at all?
And then you had a universe. What could have caused that? It seems to be if space, time and matter had a beginning, then whatever causes it had to be spaceless, timeless, immaterial, powerful (to create universe out of nothing), personal (in order to make a choice because only a personal cause can choose to go from nothing to creation), and intelligent (to have a mind to make a choice).
Now most people will call this description God.
But how do we know it’s the Christian God? Because if we keep going through the evidence, or miracles, or the New Testament, and we discover Jesus really rose from the dead, then I think we can confidently say that the same being that walked out of the tomb about 1,993 years ago is the same being in whose divine nature created the universe out of nothing.
We have six strong attributes that very well could be the God of the Bible.
The problem is the evidence points to the fact the universe is not the first cause.
Second law of thermodynamics (universe is running down). So something must have wound it up. We have no energy left right now if the universe was eternal.
Universe is expanding. Edwin Hubble detected that in 1929. Everything came from a single point. A point actually of infinite density, the singularity which is actually nothing. So the universe had a beginning.
Radiation afterglow, or remnant heat discovered by Penzias and Wilson in 1965. This is literally the smoking gun to the Big Bang. There is remnant heat from the Big Bang still out there. Which shows that the universe had a beginning.
The Great Galaxy seeds shows there were very fine temperature variations in that radiation afterglow that allowed galaxies to form in the early universe.
Einstein’s theory of general relativity, shows time space and matter all come together at the same time. They literally had a beginning. Einstein knew this in 1916, then observational evidence began in 1919 when Eddington did his test on the eclipse and then Hubble discovered the expanding universe in 1929 and then onto the radiation glow of the great galaxy seeds after that.
So the evidence shows the universe is not the first cause. So whatever is beyond the universe must be space less, timeless and immaterial. If you are timeless do you have a beginning? No. So God must be the first cause. Aristotle and Plato knew this too. They knew there had to be an unmoved mover.
How do atheists respond to this evidence?
if he is God why do he need to go to school ?
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to experience different parts of life....even though God created the life, He still needs to experience it...even after putting it all together and knowing what everything is down to the quantum state, but still has to experience algebra...
I actually agree with the last guys argument that all things have some type of consciousness because God created everything and science is proving that things aren’t void. Luke 19:40. He says that he isn’t fully on board with the Big Bang. Why? Because science is proving otherwise.
And Muhammad wrote the Koran four hundred years after Jesus Christ and mentioned’s both Mother Mary and Jesus Christ in a very positive way.
Im lost, what does this guy even believe?
He believes in all the good things every religion has minus the idea of a god. You can't have your cake and eat it. There are a bunch of people like him who think they get a free ticket to heaven without putting in the work.
Rocks experience reality.
Nothing, and that’s the main point with these type of guys. It’s all interactions and forever open ended..they don’t believe in anything solidly, they believe in everything loosely and just sure they just don’t believe in Jesus Christ.
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8:58 bro actually missed biology class 🗿
Got an F- in physics.
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I’d like to think that Jesus never mentioned when he was born because it doesn’t matter. What matters is that he BORN himself into this world to save us from eternal damnation! THANK YOU JESUS! ❤
Isaiah 5:21: “Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.”
😂so the plants can not expirence pain but tree can expirence love?
Thats hypocrisy
Does love have a frequency .???
Is it mega hertz , or what ????
No frequency, just biochemistry.
Sometimes love dose mega hurts tho
LOL....
crazy he mentions frequency, one of the most complex things we know that does connect everything on a certain level...i guess that just appeared out of the collective consciousness...
So these are the type of people in Universities these days😂😂😂😂 The debate has no point I think we should start examining his previous results in high school
There always was, and always will be, these types of people at colleges and universities. They stay the same; it's the topics that change. For some reason it seems to some extent or another everyone becomes an intellectual towards the end of their freshman year. Most outgrow it over time when their journey to self-awareness brings them to the point there they finally realize their ignorance, but others become philosophy majors.
@@TheBlackToedOne actually what I was hearing was blunt ignorance without fact, the guy refuted science and God at the same time…
@@mrnelsonmandelamark Agree. But the self-confidence w/ which he did it with, talking as if very few have ever heard it before about no matter and only sound waves - inspiring. And he did throw in God now and then but caught himself and knew it made him sound like he was agreeing in part so he corrected himself. He did basically talk himself into a circle.
@@TheBlackToedOne yeah that’s why argument’s don’t amount to anything.
People go to college, because they are ignorant. Too bad that colleges are teaching them to be wrong
The most disappointing thing about these children, is that they don’t argue to find common ground, but to reject. Even if you prove them wrong, they’ll not change their thoughts.
We do not know when he was born, but we know he was born, died and rose again; and is seated at thr right hand of the Father. Hallelujah.
No one knows the exact date Jesus was born.
December 25 was picked because there was a pagan festival celebrated then and Christians took it over to bring attention to Christ's birth.
Let's face it, who knew the date celebrated that pagfan festival. But everyone knows the birth of Christ.
Christmas and Easter are great evangelist tools. More people are open to being exposed to Christ at those times of year, and so may become saved.
It doesn't matter when Christ was born. It just matters that He was born and later died for our sins. That is why we celebrate.
What you said is a lie by the way, there was no taking over a pagan holiday.
We are to worship God in Spirit and in truth. There is no truth in Christmas. It is a pagan celebration of the unconquerable sun god. Pagans worship their god on that day through the winter solstice. We are not to worship God as the heathens do. When followers of Jesus Christ celebrate on the 25th of December they are offering and dedicating their spiritual energy and worship to that false pagan deity. Simply partaking in a yearly pagan ritual and putting Jesus's name on it does not make it honourable or good anymore than it would to attend a séance and dedicate it to Jesus or attend a satanic mass or other pagan ritual like Halloween and celebrate it in the name of Jesus. The unconquerable sun god is the Antichrist and the false light. And people worship him every year on Dec 25th. This is the truth. People love Christmas more than the truth. There is no truth in Christmas, only deception and lies. I woke up to this 4 years ago and stopped observing all pagan holidays. They are evil.
Satans primary tool is deception and the followers of Jesus have been decieved into celebrating the birth of the antichrist on Dec 25th.
Those who chose the day did so for a specific reason, to continue the worship of their false sun god. It was never to evangelise the pagans. The Apostles never took part in pagan holidays and rituals to evangelise pagans nor did they instruct anyone to. Wolves in sheeps clothing infiltrated the church to steal the worship of Jesus to worship of the false light of the antichrist, the pagan sun god.
Actually if you look at the evidence Jesus might have been conceived on December 25 or sometime right during the time period. If you go to the Gospel of Luke 1: 5 if you read it, it speaks of the time or course of Abia. Abia was a priest in the Old Testament his course if I remember right was the eight and if you follow through with the fact that John the Baptist was six months in the womb before God sent Gabriel to speak to Mary and factor in the 6 months gap between John the Baptist birth and Jesus birth it is right around December or January.Its a Bible that goes into detail about how Jesus just might have been conceived around that time period. The Bible is the Companion Bible King James Version Appendix 179 it goes into great detail about this subject.
@@melvincarter9640 That's interesting.
Facts a demon was born on Christmas because Christmas came from paganism facts and its a sin to celebrate paganism and the fact you dishonor yeshua by celebrate his birthday on the same day a demon was born Christians really need to start studying the Bible
This kid worships the human intelligence! He worships academics! He has many gods.
the arrogance of man...sinful pride...if he only knew. Lets pray the Lord shows him in a supernatural way...
December 25 is still pagan as heck. No way around it.
It’s only pagan if you make it pagan.
@@Wolfhybrids not really. We just don't like Truth that history is there. We just act like we'll it did happen
@@Truthhurts34 Yeshua was most likely born in April-June no where near December 25th.
@@Wolfhybrids I know, when I tell people he lived in another part of the world not America I always get funny look. So I guess if the intention is not bad. Your right but history of December 25 is still dark. So God's hand right
Yes, it is a pagan ritual in it's entirety. God never revealed the birth date of Christ because he didn't want us to have a propensity towards calendrical dates or celestial events...but who does have a propensity towards calendrical dates AND celestial events, pagans haha. There is only one holy day which is the 7th day, Sabbath day and man cannot make a day holy, it's sad so many people live in error and dont want to live righteously. Just like John 14:15 illustrates, if you love me keep my commandments . Christ died on the 6th day and rose on day 1 which is Sunday . The Roman emperor Constantine started the nonsense of changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. It was the first documented civil credence in human history and he essentially paganized Christianity just like all he other "holidays" aren't holidays and all have ties to paganism. Nice to know that you understand the error of X-mas and know it isn't of God. God dislikes syncretism and if people cared or knew enough they would stay away from that stuff. We saw how God deals with syncretism in the book of Deuteronomy and also what happened to Cain when God directed him to do something as an act of worship but Cain did what in his own mind he "thought" was just as good. People seem to forget God is very particular and it's understandable because humans are made in his image and we are too. We have preferences for how things are to be done and handled in our own house but on the Earth God created people think they can just worship God however "they" want and it doesn't matter. Sorry for the rant I just love talking about God and it's sad to see that others like the man in this video are still in error, he mentioned the earth being created billions of years ago. That would make the book of Genesis false 😅
To me the important thing is "Yeshua was born" "died" and "Resurrected" I don't care when He did it, just that He did it cause he loves me. ❤
Thank you Yeshua 🙏
WOW,,, NEVER NEW THERE WAS SO MUCH IGNORANCE IN OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSUS' UNBELIEABLE
He is right even if you check what's written. You won't see nothing about Jesus being born on December 25th. Romans attached it to their Saturnalia festival.
He's a lost Ones, Practically Objective basis, and Student too.. it makes me sad...
We all have frequency because GOD spoke everything into existence 🙏✝️🙌🕊️
What caught my attention is the nature and love of christ radiated through cliff's demeanour, good one cliff !!
He’s just a young man trying to figure out his beliefs. We have to ask questions to gain our own understanding. I applaud this kid for having a calm and honest conversation about this and allowing himself to be challenged. Christ is King. I love you all ✝️🩵
He doesn't even understand the science. How the hell can he explain his beliefs when everything he says is factually incorrect and illogical?
The kid is right at.9:40 God is everyone.. Jesus tells you so.John 10:34-35 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, You are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;..
What kills me? Is people think that they had the ability to just grab a pen and paper or their phone and record everything that happened. These were people who did not know how to read and write. They didn’t have access to pen and paper every day. And they did not have Cell phones. This was 2000 years ago. The cell phone is only 30 years old.
Man these professors are destroying these vulnerable kids.
I would have liked to the see the conclusion this conversation. It was maybe the best topic and rebuttal that I've seen on this subject.
This is something me and my family have come to realize there is so much mixing and mingling of different religions. So to say it doesn’t matter that Jesus was born on December 25th… yes it does matter look at Revelation 3:15-16 God despises Lukewarm behavior. All these Gods being born on this same day and Jesus’ birth according to tradition being then isn’t a coincidence. God’s calendar is so different to the modern day world it is eye opening how Jesus’ big events correlate with the Old Testament feasts. When the modern day church says Jesus’ sacrifice means no more Old Testament and law no He came to fulfill it and make a way for us to follow it and be with the Father. As believers be diligent and always be alert because things like this can throw you off without realizing it. Look at March 7 321 AD Constantine changed the Sabbath from the Seventh day Saturday to SUNDAY coincidence I think not
The truth will find this young man eventually. Some solid seeds planted there that will no doubt grow into faith in Jesus. “For nothing is hidden that will not be revealed, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light.”Luke 8:17 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth, Philippians 2:10
I thought only in college you'd see all this disbelief in God, I'm seeing that a whole lot more people are falling into disbelief. May God reach them at their point and accept Him. Cliffe is the best debater I've seen
Some people have the ability to listen to someone go on and on with nonsense and drivel...
Circular "arguments" with no point or basis in truth, but only their own thoughts...
Cliffe, I'm not one of those people...
But I praise Yah that you are one of those people who are kind enough and knowledgeable enough to possibly plant the seed in these individuals...
May Abba Yah Bless and Keep You...
Why did you end the clip there?!
Christmas is actually based on a pagan holiday, which I believe is called Yule. In fact, most holidays if not all, are based on pagan gods. Easter is Ishtar, Halloween is celtic, etc etc. Which is likely why Jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate holidays. Not saying their beliefs are entirely correct, because I don't know all of their beliefs, but yeah.
Where is the full video of this
Please upload the full debate.
I’m glad he’s brave enough to ask these sets of questions or share his
Framing of reality out loud in public.
Many people who think like him would not be as courageous and forthcoming. So he’s able to help people who perceive the same way he does. He’s helping a lot of people who want answers.
I often feel too dumb and too far behind to ask questions. So his courage helps me consider asking questions.
However the comment section has me wanting to make sure I never do ask the questions out loud, due to their lack of acceptance toward him
"God speaks something and then science runs to catch up with what He said. Science doesn't create anything. Science studies creation. God didn't come to be. He is eternal the way a lot of people thought the universe was until science dispoved it. Therefore, God IS the cause, and the universe is the effect. God is eternal. He is capable of existing outside of space, time and matter."
Edit: credit Chyna ❤
Keep telling them the truth,they are blind👍This guy is so Good👍
Is there a part 2?
Giving or not giving love to a tree the tree will still grow. Trees do not have emotions.
I have read there are questions/issues with all the various claims regarding our Lord's day of birth. As a Christian I
don't see that it matters.
Personally I think the gospel of John provides the best timeline. The first Feast mentioned was the Passover. Jesus
began His ministry at age 30, was baptized by John, then traveled north, preaching; but did not remain long.
He and His disciples then went to Jerusalem for the Passover; end of March or early April.
This would place His birth date around the end of February or early March.
In addition, end of February/early March was the usual time the shepherds lead their flocks into the countryside.
As well, there were 3 harvests per year, including a spring grain harvest. Remember the Jewish leadership criticized
His disciples for going through the fields eating with "unwashed hands" shortly after He began His ministry.
All that should matter is having a relationship with Jesus Christ. Prayer changes things 🙏🏾
Great respectful discussion 👏
a very harden heart that has also made him blind