Jotaro got simply outsmarted by Pucci, but it's insane how someone could nearly have outsmarted someone's who's thought process with their is being accelerated infinitely.
tbh jotaro claps pucci made in heave in every situation except that one only because jolyne, if it was 1 on 1 with nobody to get in their way, jotaro would be in the same situation "oh i can 1 shot pucci right now but wait i only got 2 seconds or smthn and my daughter bouta die lmao so what do i do save the universe or save my daughter who finna die if i save her anyways due to universe reset lmao" but this time its only "oh i can 1 shot pucci"... and than he does so imo pucci definitely didnt outsmart him he just used his weakness which wasnt hard to figure out at all i mean look at him lmao but ye jotaro claps
@@Levicrittenden5 Jotaro could beat Pucci in a few scenarios, yes. But if it was a straight forward 1v1, Pucci would speedblitz him before he could react 8 times out of 10. Plus Pucci is aware of the timestop and would easily be able to work around it.
@@SlewedBoot25934 If its in a basic one on one theres no sort of countermeasure to it. The only reason he won was because of Jolyne. You're forgetting Made in Heaven starts off slow, and progressively gets faster. Put them in an Arena, One on One, Jotaro one shots 10/10
@@kujoova the only part of MiH that was slow from the start was time's acceleration. Pucci was still moving so fast that Jotaro could barely perceive what he was seeing from the very start, and timestop was still sped up as well. And Pucci also almost outside and 1shot Jotaro when it WASN'T a one on one, without using Jolyne to distract him, the only reason he survived was because of Anasui taking some of the damage. If it was a 1v1, the same exact thing would happen and Pucci would drop him.
Neat. Cool seeing your take on this matchup. All Might’s definitely got the strength edge but Jotaro speed blitz’s and outhacks him with his time stop ability. So, it comes down to Jotaro outlasting All Might (from the start) or whether or not Jotaro is durable enough to tank prime All Might’s punch.
@@JotaroKujo-ip5wb 14:26 uhh, from the video itself. Its shown that Current AM was able to make a storm/weather from his punch (Mountain lvl) and Prime AM is 60x stronger than current, so they multiplied the calc and it reached to island lvl.
@@JotaroKujo-ip5wb The reason for the 60x multiplier, is because of the nomu fight which took alot of punches (300 exact), to take out the Nomu and he states to himself, his Prime self could've ended the Nomu in just 5 punches.
Finally good to hear someone say that Jotaro isn’t building lvl, like damn that take just really gets on my nerves. It’s almost insane how they think that SP only scales to building while SP is just absolutely pummelling his opponents in an instant, but nonetheless great video!
Imagine saying Weather Report scales to Jotaro when P6 lore outright said that Jotaro was working with INEXPERIENCED Stand Users. Hell, WR vs Storm says it all regarding WR.
Doesn’t puchi in the end state that “Weather was experienced with his ability” and that’s why he doubted emporio when he said that “you can’t just master an ability by putting/inserting it into your head!”?
@@JotaroKujo-ip5wbtf you on about? They are the same, except Heavy Weather is bloodlusted. They both got the same amount of AP, they can open the ozone layer, letting Jotaro be island level+
To add onto giving more feats to making Star Platinum faster than Silver Chariot without armor, couldn't you also use the feat of Hierophant's Green's 20 meter Emerald Splash intercepting Hol Horse's Bullets which were moving faster than Silver Chariot without armor. We know that Star Platinum scales above Hierophant Green given that he deflected them in his first fight, with this being supported with DIO also managing to pull off the same feats and Jotaro keeping up with him. I do wanna ask given how Stand Users can scale to their Stands, is it safe to say that the arrow gives people an amp relative to their Stands, and with that is it safe to say that you can't use Part 3 DIO to scale Part 1 DIO? As it is stated by DIO that Jonathan's Body was limiting his abilities making him weaker. It Great video, hoping you can eventually do Joker vs Giorno that way most JoJo fans can reference it and it can hopefully be put to rest as there's almost no videos on it, and just a couple of shorts.
Yea I know you can use that line of scaling to get Star Platinum above armorless Silver Chariot, i’m the one who created it after all 😉, but I forgot to put it in the video. Also Part 1 Dio upscale off of Part 3 Dio (Pre Blood amp, post blood amp is = to Part 1 Dio), I prove this in my Dio scaling video. Also I’ll eventually get to Joker vs Giorno, though I dread it because of toxic GER fans
@@JobberGodot I asked this since I debated part 1 DIO upscaling from Part 3 at least before the blood amp since I used that scaling I mentioned (which btw thank you for you contributions to the community for said scaling) to scale Jonathan to light speed, since even it feels a bit iffy to scale Jonathan to light speed via Hamon. Yeah that's fair as I've seen how toxic they get anytime someone mentions GER losing, so best of luck with that. Still worth a shot since I keep hearing its one of Death Battles most highly requested match ups, I guess there are probably still a good amount of people that are curious.
@@reflex9238 on god they hear you say "ye so ger loses" than they say 🤓actually, ger just reverts that to zero so ger wins again with negative difference, try harder nex time pal🤓
I think a couple Ora rushes against prime almight would be good. Stone Free scales higher than meteorites and Star Platinum scales WAY higher than that. Punching like that millions and millions of times will kill All Might with it without fate manipulation
5:44 Just to clarify, the Impale that one shotted Kakyoin was extremely weak compared to the amped full punch barrages that DIO performed on Jotaro. DIO was actively trying to kill Jotaro and had a power boost from Joestar Blood. 8:38 As well as Hanged man looking like he was frozen, Hanged man also had a headstart, and Silver Chariot was not even summoned, so he is even faster than the scaling presented here.
I usually use the large mountain calc because whenever I scale something I usually go with a highball, I also saw a calc for SP having island level AP but I think thats a little dishonest, so I just use the large mountain level AP
@@JobberGodotdo you think aoyamas navel laser from my hero is light speed because I personally don’t buy into it being light speed I’ve even made a debunk for it but I’m interested in your take ?
I feel like Jotaro w/ Fate Manip would take it high diff instead of low diff just based off how he was at the end of the DIO fight where fate was debatably at play the most.
@@kimotokirby1601 dio probably doesnt have fate manip but the world 100% does and dio obvs controls the world so dio 99% has fate manip tw defo has fate manip cuz its scientifically proven time and gravity are correlated and tw can stop time obvs so tw can stop gravity which inturn means he stops fate cuz gravity and fate are also related so like 70% of the jotaro vs dio fight was not fated to happen
@@Levicrittenden5 No no no. Remember that fate in jojo's is like Gravity, and that Dio had a STRONG gravity, bro's Gravity is so intense that he can Even manipulate ppl with it. That's why i said Dio technicaly have fate manip, although is more like he is just lucky and that good things happens to him(exept for like, jotato and stuff)
The whole thing behind “Fate manipulation/Fate resistance” is only due to the fact that he is a TRUE main character, where the crusaders were all consider main characters, only Jotaro and Joseph were TRUE main characters. That wouldn’t be resistance or manipulation, it’s just plot armor.
I wonder if Weather can recreate the Red Dot, because it's basically the biggest hurricane ever found by humans, it's been revealed by NASA that the red dot comes outside of Jupiter's atmosphere.
I think it boils down to "Can all might survive 6 seconds of full power ora barrage?" If he can then as soon as time stop ends Jotaro dies in the blink of an eye and if he doesn't Jotaro wins Star platinum does not have spammable time stop unlike the world, so once it ends it only takes a flick of a finger from all might to create an AOE attack and blow up the entire zone surrounding himself. Pointing out that stands are really bad for defending against those kinds of attacks unless you have like, yellow temperance or something like that.
Jotaro can stop time, and his stand is literally faster than fucking light. A punch mid part 3 was able to completely destroy something with the hardiness of a diamond, however not all attributes ( as a diamond is extremely brittle) Not to mention that 300,000 km/sec/299 792 458 m/s. Sub-atomic particles (high-energy cosmic rays) regularly hit the Earth at that velocity, with only some interesting radiation in the atmosphere to show for it. A dust particle (~1g) at that speed would hit with the force of a nuclear weapon. (keep in mind this is 90%) A LITERAL DUST PARTICLE. HAS ENOUGH FORCE OF A NUCLEAR WEAPON. Compare that to Mid-Part 3's Punches. Now lets not get started about bloodlusted prime jotaro. Of course there's another theory. A faster speed something attains, the more dense and more mass it gains. If something travels at the speed of light. This means that it essentially gains infinite Mass, speed, and Energy of Newton's Exerted. Its safe to say that this man theoretically has enough power to level continents but since SP is spiritual and not physical the world of jojo has yet to end. Jotaro fucking negs any MHA character.
Also u forget that jotaro doesn't try in all his battles besides dio and pucci and it's stated that in his fight with dio (specifically the beat down before he sucks Josephs blood) that, that's his full power and you probably saw that it put holes in dio not only that we all know he broke dios skull open
@@somerandomdude827 Head cannon Conclusions? Its apply LITERAL MATH AND LOGIC. One punch = Surpasses The Strength of a nuke. Also, the Timestop is still here. Not to mention that if we were to go by the theory of Speed = Newtons. The fact that a punch from mid-part 3 Star Platinum technically would exert INFINITE energy, literally meaning its impossible for all might not to be fucking crippled in a single hit. SHIT not to mention All might would be barraged with the force of nuclear bombs.
@@somerandomdude827 yo bro you havin fun trying to debunk science? Lol. The amount of Newtons of Energy Exerted is accelerated and increased by the speed. The reason why I said Light speed energy exertion and mass is = to Infinite is not because its actually infinite. Is because theres nothing of the recorded universe that succeeds that speed. A dust Particle reaches the Force of a Nuclear Weapon travelling at 90% of light speed because its density and mass Is constantly increasing. Due to this the energy exerted also accelerates and increases. And even if so, Something hitting the earth at a speed EVEN COMPARABLE to light speed would annihlate the ozone and atmosphere and decimate all life and completely level continents. If you actually took any time in your life to actually Study science of any sorts you'd know this. All Might is fodder to jotaro. A single punch = the force of newtons that far exceeds the bomb of a nuclear bomb. Not to mention at MFTL+ Speeds in a punch he can easily crank out atleast 100 punches in a second. (1/2)
(2/2) His longest beatdown, on steely dan was about 22-25 seconds, thats over 2k Nuclear forces. And saying 100 punches a second is on the "Im disrespecting your entire bloodline" end. Keep in mind this is Jotaro crossing into Start-mid SDC. Where he's not nearly as strong as he was in End-part 3 Stuff like. Science and fucking Common sense greatly outweights your perception of "Logic" here. stop being an extraneous Pain in the ass and go do something better with your life.
@@somerandomdude827 I never said a Nuke decimates all life. I said something that Travels a speed comparable to that of Light speed will annihlate the ozone and Atmosphere, killing all life on earth and effectively leveling continents. Mass is density and just because Star Platinum technically is not physical, doesn't mean it doesn't have a mass since it can literally interact with real world objects.
How does the diamond teeth feat scale? Also I don’t get powerscaler terms like x-level. Some attacks are massive AoE, and others attack only in a small area so I don’t get it.
@@the17kyd66 the calc was made assuming the “hard as diamonds” line was hyperbole you could probably get it to like city block level If they were as hard as diamonds
@@JobberGodotjobber so theirs some people saying all mights speed should be multiplied by 60x since his speed should be relative to his strength due to how one for all works, but I don’t really agree with this so I just wanted to know what you think of the argument?
@@somerandomdude827 except they feats are Nowhere to be proof as level as reaching Jotaro does when Jotaro is Completely Mountain level and Mftl who equal to DIO himself while DIO is Far superior and far greater stronger and more Nothing compare to those feats unlike my fodder does
@@somerandomdude827 MHA only has the AP advantage. Jotaro Blitzes the verse and can one shot a solid 85% of it. A Hamon user can blitz and neg the durability of the whole verse. MHA is like the third most fodder anime rn, above AOT and Demon Slayer.
@@somerandomdude827 Except for that They Feats and can scale High up Which He is No longer as City Block Level he is already way way alot Above as that as Mountain level due to they feats say as otherwise so No Wonder this is such Downplayers im debating right now
I got a problem with jotaro having fate manipulation, sure in jojo cosmology jotaro has fate manipulation, but how would that work in a different universe where fate is different?
A vs battle would just mash both characters verses together, Jotaro wouldn’t solely be in the MHA verse for the vs, as well as All Might wouldn’t solely be in the JoJo verse. The fight would take place as if both verses were mashed together in this fight
@@jansobieski8414jotaro absolutely does not have superhuman travel speed, not even star platinum does, he's at maximum peak human. I don't remember much from all might but star finger's range is considerably smaller than all might's air bullets, all might should also have the ability to tank bullets anyways
U ever delve into the non Canon material. Also when u dropping a top 10 strongest stands + where they scale to and maybe a challenge for you could be top 10 stands that could beat goku or even wou idk man i just need more content
Just looking at the thumb nail Of corse jotoro win’s literally just get close stop time and donut all might purple jojo definitely as the AP to donut all might
You are way overestimating Jotaro's speed. The calculations assume that Polnareff moves 1000x the speed of light. However, Polnareff knew the trajectory of the Hanged Man and could've therefore hit him even while moving slower. He didn't even need to move at all and could've just held his sword in Hanged Man's way. Jotaro also has a ton of anti-feats regarding his speed, for example getting hit by a car in his fight against Thoth and Hol Horse. Also, even if the speed of his stand attacks was that insane, his travel speed is clearly just that of a normal human, except for one time in his fight against DIO where he uses stand jumps to travel a bit faster. Meanwhile, All Might can jump hundreds of meters and even redirect himself mid-air. So travel speed and agility go to All Might and would stop him from getting blitzed. PS: How is round two high diff when Jotaro literally can't injure All Might?
Everything you said here Is false 1. It doesn't matter if silver chariot knew the trajectory he was shown moving faster on panel he didn't “held his sword in hanged man's way” he only attacked after hanged man started traveling
All might doesn't resort to destructive capacity in fights he's trying to stop collateral damage also why is travel speed relevant here they aren't running a marathon.
@@somerandomdude827 Travel speed is relevant because Jotaro has to be relatively close to attack, even with time stop he needs to be able to attack his enemy in 5 seconds. Since All Might's travel speed and agility are higher, he could stay safe by jumping through the sky. Granted, that alone doesn't mean All Might would win, but it's part of the reason I think Jotaro would have a harder time than the video makes it seem like.
@@somerandomdude827 I still think there are plenty of anti-feats to show that stands aren't *that* fast. 1000x FTL is just ridiculous. Maybe Hanged Man doesn't move at the speed of light or maybe Araki just didn't think of the implications.
Was kinetic force from speed included in the calculations? From my calculations (granted they are most likely wrong) if jotaro was moving at 4800 times the speed of light with an average fist mass of 409.6 grams he would exert 4.2408589963461E+21 Newtons of force with a singular punch. If I have made a mistake in my calculations please let me know
@@JobberGodot ger should technically be multiversal due to scaling above silver chariot requiem who pulls souls from different dimensions and should scale above tusk act 4 who breaks dimensional wall and still has stand stats while ger has stats that all say none meaning while tusk act 4 can be measured with the regular alphabetical tiering ger cant and should scale above act 4 ger Also has another universal to multiversal feat with putting Diavolo in the death loop which can be implied that ger made a world for the loop
@@Lwangombothwe he’s speed does make sense cause he quite literally negated a time ability that forces you to carry out actions while not knowing what’s going on but if that’s not enough we can still scale ger to stands like made in heaven which has an infinity in speed while even infinite speed can be measured gers speed still can’t so with both these feats ger should at least be outside of linear time or should have immeasurable speed due to scaling to made in heaven
@@darksith7282 it doesn't matter if you can blow up a city, how are you gonna do that when time stops? Let alone All might figuring out that Jotaro could time stop and spam it
So, Starplatinum get Nerfd a lot after part3. The power scale was to high in the end of part3, but never got so high in literally force scale. Dio and Jotaro were a lot out of the scale compared to other stands physical force Like, when Starplatinum beats the shit out of someone in part4, the consequences are less than a half of when he did it in part 3 And probably the biggest nerf was the capacle of movement, out and, mainly, in the time stop
@@angryvikzr6244 yes, he was weaker since the beginning of part 4 until the C-moon arc, mainly in movement speed Just watch Jotaro VS bug eater or Jotaro VS SHA Focus on the time stop parts "oh no Koichi, even if I stop time, I can't get there" he had 2 seconds of time stop 12 years later, Jotaro can stop time for 5 seconds, he stops time walks (no he didn't run, he walked normally) a distance that was bigger than the one between Jotaro and Sha or even Jotaro and Koichi 12 years before, grabs an harpoon and throws it to Pucci, and says "3 more seconds", so just 2 seconds have passed The same thing applys in part 3, DIO traveled almost 20 meters chilling in less than 5 seconds to kill Kakyoin and left before time resumes (so more than 20 meters and a kill in 5 seconds). A bit later we see that Jotaro and DIO have similar movement speed when they were "wall jumping" towards each other So late part 6 Jotaro walking can travel more than part 4 Jotaro could do at his max speed to save someone? If that's not being weaker in part 4, idk what it is.
Jotaro had less strength but keeped speed but had less precision and reaction time so yeah edit: the world is not stronger nor faster but equal to thsat of star platinum dio is just cocky
So all might multi continental explained by mr crafty scales Jotaro multi large mountain level seeing the man the myth the legend polnerafe can block sun beams which sun beams in joules of energy can destroy large cities mountains And jotaro is massively stronger then polnerafe making him at least large mountain to multi large mountain level which alot of people overlook so his ap and strength is large mountain to multi large mountain All might light speed seeing a 20 or less % deku can dodge radio waves which are consistently light speed Jotaro mftl to infinite Self explanatory after watching the video Durability all might Iq and biq jotaro Hax jotaro Ability jotaro Experience jotaro fighting vampires and stand users since 17 years old and said to be helping the speed wagon foundation in catching criminals so no part 4 jotaro is same level as part 3 but with far more experience plus nothing said he was weaker other then time stop being weaker Range all might he can punch air waves 100s of feats casually like afo Endurance debatable all kight with many broken bones can fight afo And self explanatory for jotaro Stamina jotaro he can go days fighting while all might non prime is only able to last 2-3 hours said himself in his all might state Overall debatable yes jotaro is massively faster but all might is massively stronger and more durable and all might has range and can most likely one shot jotaro seeing jotaro never shown a feat or statement to be country level let alone multi continental So overall all might can 1 shot But jotaro can stall until he loses his power But prime all might is a different story
Foddertaro gets clapped no way your comparing all might who can casually destroy multi city blocks and scales higher than characters who are large island level to foddertaro who couldent even destroy a roadroller while the world who scales equally to star platinum was hitting it at the same time 💀 the jojo wank is ridicoulous jojo fans probally cant get over how fodder the verse is 💀 and to add the cherry on top foddertaro and the fodderdust crusaders all got blitzed by a CAR any random person can clap jotaro 💀
Lmao your trolling Sp not destroying a road roller does not down scale his attack potency jotaro is city level+ the crusaders were never blitzed by a car and all might cant even touch him
Jotaro got simply outsmarted by Pucci, but it's insane how someone could nearly have outsmarted someone's who's thought process with their is being accelerated infinitely.
tbh jotaro claps pucci made in heave in every situation except that one only because jolyne, if it was 1 on 1 with nobody to get in their way, jotaro would be in the same situation "oh i can 1 shot pucci right now but wait i only got 2 seconds or smthn and my daughter bouta die lmao so what do i do save the universe or save my daughter who finna die if i save her anyways due to universe reset lmao" but this time its only "oh i can 1 shot pucci"... and than he does so imo pucci definitely didnt outsmart him he just used his weakness which wasnt hard to figure out at all i mean look at him lmao but ye jotaro claps
@@Levicrittenden5 my guy, Jotaro would've been blitzed if it wasn't for Anasui lol
@@Levicrittenden5 Jotaro could beat Pucci in a few scenarios, yes. But if it was a straight forward 1v1, Pucci would speedblitz him before he could react 8 times out of 10. Plus Pucci is aware of the timestop and would easily be able to work around it.
@@SlewedBoot25934 If its in a basic one on one theres no sort of countermeasure to it. The only reason he won was because of Jolyne. You're forgetting Made in Heaven starts off slow, and progressively gets faster. Put them in an Arena, One on One, Jotaro one shots 10/10
@@kujoova the only part of MiH that was slow from the start was time's acceleration. Pucci was still moving so fast that Jotaro could barely perceive what he was seeing from the very start, and timestop was still sped up as well.
And Pucci also almost outside and 1shot Jotaro when it WASN'T a one on one, without using Jolyne to distract him, the only reason he survived was because of Anasui taking some of the damage. If it was a 1v1, the same exact thing would happen and Pucci would drop him.
As soon as All Might hears Jotaro's theme, he's done for
Great video my dood!
Neat. Cool seeing your take on this matchup. All Might’s definitely got the strength edge but Jotaro speed blitz’s and outhacks him with his time stop ability. So, it comes down to Jotaro outlasting All Might (from the start) or whether or not Jotaro is durable enough to tank prime All Might’s punch.
Strength Edge how?
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Jotaro
City+ lvl to Large Mountain lvl (high-end)
All Might
Current (Mountain lvl)
Prime (Island - Large Island lvl)
@@TNThunder7 current all night isn’t even building level tf? Where are you getting your “prime all might Island level” feats?
@@JotaroKujo-ip5wb 14:26 uhh, from the video itself. Its shown that Current AM was able to make a storm/weather from his punch (Mountain lvl) and Prime AM is 60x stronger than current, so they multiplied the calc and it reached to island lvl.
@@JotaroKujo-ip5wb The reason for the 60x multiplier, is because of the nomu fight which took alot of punches (300 exact), to take out the Nomu and he states to himself, his Prime self could've ended the Nomu in just 5 punches.
Finally good to hear someone say that Jotaro isn’t building lvl, like damn that take just really gets on my nerves. It’s almost insane how they think that SP only scales to building while SP is just absolutely pummelling his opponents in an instant, but nonetheless great video!
can't believe we're powerscaling characters the 2 characters that come from communities that hate each other ALOT
And Jotaro solos the poor verse with ease
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Shigaraki is argueable there only way Jotaro wins is by ABUSING time stop
@@CyclicArcher612 even without time stop no one in entire mha is close to light speed let alone FTL, no one can see or react with a stand.
Jotaro could timestop and move so he could somewhat dodge All Mights attacks and barrage him.
Even without time stop all might can't see stands and is alot slower than star platinum aswell, he is fucked most of the time
Imagine saying Weather Report scales to Jotaro when P6 lore outright said that Jotaro was working with INEXPERIENCED Stand Users. Hell, WR vs Storm says it all regarding WR.
Weather Report isn't even that strong. Heavy weather is op as fuck. God damn.
p6 outright just said "ayo Jotaro's working with a bunch of fucking idiots not gonna lie inexperienced as"
Doesn’t puchi in the end state that “Weather was experienced with his ability” and that’s why he doubted emporio when he said that “you can’t just master an ability by putting/inserting it into your head!”?
And wasn’t emporio with it bad until the pure oxygen by pure coincidence that puchi goes into a monologue?
@@JotaroKujo-ip5wbtf you on about? They are the same, except Heavy Weather is bloodlusted. They both got the same amount of AP, they can open the ozone layer, letting Jotaro be island level+
To add onto giving more feats to making Star Platinum faster than Silver Chariot without armor, couldn't you also use the feat of Hierophant's Green's 20 meter Emerald Splash intercepting Hol Horse's Bullets which were moving faster than Silver Chariot without armor. We know that Star Platinum scales above Hierophant Green given that he deflected them in his first fight, with this being supported with DIO also managing to pull off the same feats and Jotaro keeping up with him.
I do wanna ask given how Stand Users can scale to their Stands, is it safe to say that the arrow gives people an amp relative to their Stands, and with that is it safe to say that you can't use Part 3 DIO to scale Part 1 DIO? As it is stated by DIO that Jonathan's Body was limiting his abilities making him weaker. It
Great video, hoping you can eventually do Joker vs Giorno that way most JoJo fans can reference it and it can hopefully be put to rest as there's almost no videos on it, and just a couple of shorts.
Yea I know you can use that line of scaling to get Star Platinum above armorless Silver Chariot, i’m the one who created it after all 😉, but I forgot to put it in the video. Also Part 1 Dio upscale off of Part 3 Dio (Pre Blood amp, post blood amp is = to Part 1 Dio), I prove this in my Dio scaling video. Also I’ll eventually get to Joker vs Giorno, though I dread it because of toxic GER fans
@@JobberGodot I asked this since I debated part 1 DIO upscaling from Part 3 at least before the blood amp since I used that scaling I mentioned (which btw thank you for you contributions to the community for said scaling) to scale Jonathan to light speed, since even it feels a bit iffy to scale Jonathan to light speed via Hamon.
Yeah that's fair as I've seen how toxic they get anytime someone mentions GER losing, so best of luck with that. Still worth a shot since I keep hearing its one of Death Battles most highly requested match ups, I guess there are probably still a good amount of people that are curious.
P3 Protag vs Giorno would be better
@@Chillgamesh Fax, but P3 Portag absolutely stomps without difficulty even assuming equalized stats
@@reflex9238 on god they hear you say "ye so ger loses" than they say 🤓actually, ger just reverts that to zero so ger wins again with negative difference, try harder nex time pal🤓
Also Almight isn't a stand user, so he wont see it coming...
Fantastic video like always and can't wait for more vs battles cuz this one was great
Bro jotaro wouldn't even need to use time stop to make all might look like he was standing still, he's just that much faster
And you completely ignored that jotaro has Durability negation, since he can just reach inside all might and squish his heart or brain
I think a couple Ora rushes against prime almight would be good. Stone Free scales higher than meteorites and Star Platinum scales WAY higher than that. Punching like that millions and millions of times will kill All Might with it without fate manipulation
exactly jotaro slams both
jotaro won't be able to get a hit on all might, all might has too much aoe and range against jotaro
@@levi_62 he really has no range or AoE though so idk what you’re talking about and even so, Time Stop exists
Sup amazing video
5 seconds=5 donuts in all might
Glazed or Non Glazed? 😏
@@JobberGodot glazed in blood
5:44 Just to clarify, the Impale that one shotted Kakyoin was extremely weak compared to the amped full punch barrages that DIO performed on Jotaro. DIO was actively trying to kill Jotaro and had a power boost from Joestar Blood.
8:38 As well as Hanged man looking like he was frozen, Hanged man also had a headstart, and Silver Chariot was not even summoned, so he is even faster than the scaling presented here.
didnt expect jotaro to win, but actually sounds realistic
I usually use the large mountain calc because whenever I scale something I usually go with a highball, I also saw a calc for SP having island level AP but I think thats a little dishonest, so I just use the large mountain level AP
Really good analysis! If you were planning on going into more mha stuff i had an idea about class 1a vs the red ribbon army from from og dragon ball
Didnt think All Might was this boss, pretty sick
Fw the longer videos keep up the good work broski 🤘🏾
Thx man 💪🏾
Alternate ending: jotaro just stopped time and make Star Platinum phase through all mights body and crushes his heart
could't jotaro phase through prime all might crushing his internal organs in round two just like in round four ? W vid tho
Not in character for Jotaro
@@JobberGodot yeah jotaro is kira plus why would he kill a good person by that logic all might would just destroy the continent killing everyone
@@JobberGodotdo you think aoyamas navel laser from my hero is light speed because I personally don’t buy into it being light speed I’ve even made a debunk for it but I’m interested in your take ?
Question. How would you scale George Joestar the 2nd? Aka Jonathan's son/Joseph's dad?
I dunno tbh
@@JobberGodot oh.
In light novel?
Probably like human level he got killed by some fodder unnamed zombie and never had any skill in hamon
He’s a normal human
Point being, jotaro solos the entire MHA verse
God u have no idea as too how mucb i love these videos.
I feel like Jotaro w/ Fate Manip would take it high diff instead of low diff just based off how he was at the end of the DIO fight where fate was debatably at play the most.
you could also make the argument that Dio also has some fate manip, sense is stated that he has shenanigans with fait or ''gravity''
@@kimotokirby1601 dio probably doesnt have fate manip but the world 100% does and dio obvs controls the world so dio 99% has fate manip tw defo has fate manip cuz its scientifically proven time and gravity are correlated and tw can stop time obvs so tw can stop gravity which inturn means he stops fate cuz gravity and fate are also related so like 70% of the jotaro vs dio fight was not fated to happen
@@Levicrittenden5 No no no. Remember that fate in jojo's is like Gravity, and that Dio had a STRONG gravity, bro's Gravity is so intense that he can Even manipulate ppl with it. That's why i said Dio technicaly have fate manip, although is more like he is just lucky and that good things happens to him(exept for like, jotato and stuff)
The whole thing behind “Fate manipulation/Fate resistance” is only due to the fact that he is a TRUE main character, where the crusaders were all consider main characters, only Jotaro and Joseph were TRUE main characters. That wouldn’t be resistance or manipulation, it’s just plot armor.
I wonder if Weather can recreate the Red Dot, because it's basically the biggest hurricane ever found by humans, it's been revealed by NASA that the red dot comes outside of Jupiter's atmosphere.
I think it boils down to "Can all might survive 6 seconds of full power ora barrage?"
If he can then as soon as time stop ends Jotaro dies in the blink of an eye and if he doesn't Jotaro wins
Star platinum does not have spammable time stop unlike the world, so once it ends it only takes a flick of a finger from all might to create an AOE attack and blow up the entire zone surrounding himself. Pointing out that stands are really bad for defending against those kinds of attacks unless you have like, yellow temperance or something like that.
TW and SP have the same ability, SP might even be stronger. And Jotaros durability could tank
W vid
What do you think about Jotaro vs Gojo?
If you think about it Fate manipulation is just plot armor
Alternate title: Jotaro vs Superhero Avdol
Jotaro can stop time, and his stand is literally faster than fucking light. A punch mid part 3 was able to completely destroy something with the hardiness of a diamond, however not all attributes ( as a diamond is extremely brittle) Not to mention that 300,000 km/sec/299 792 458 m/s. Sub-atomic particles (high-energy cosmic rays) regularly hit the Earth at that velocity, with only some interesting radiation in the atmosphere to show for it. A dust particle (~1g) at that speed would hit with the force of a nuclear weapon. (keep in mind this is 90%) A LITERAL DUST PARTICLE. HAS ENOUGH FORCE OF A NUCLEAR WEAPON. Compare that to Mid-Part 3's Punches. Now lets not get started about bloodlusted prime jotaro. Of course there's another theory. A faster speed something attains, the more dense and more mass it gains. If something travels at the speed of light. This means that it essentially gains infinite Mass, speed, and Energy of Newton's Exerted. Its safe to say that this man theoretically has enough power to level continents but since SP is spiritual and not physical the world of jojo has yet to end.
Jotaro fucking negs any MHA character.
Also u forget that jotaro doesn't try in all his battles besides dio and pucci and it's stated that in his fight with dio (specifically the beat down before he sucks Josephs blood) that, that's his full power and you probably saw that it put holes in dio not only that we all know he broke dios skull open
@@somerandomdude827 Head cannon Conclusions? Its apply LITERAL MATH AND LOGIC. One punch = Surpasses The Strength of a nuke. Also, the Timestop is still here. Not to mention that if we were to go by the theory of Speed = Newtons. The fact that a punch from mid-part 3 Star Platinum technically would exert INFINITE energy, literally meaning its impossible for all might not to be fucking crippled in a single hit. SHIT not to mention All might would be barraged with the force of nuclear bombs.
@@somerandomdude827 yo bro you havin fun trying to debunk science? Lol. The amount of Newtons of Energy Exerted is accelerated and increased by the speed. The reason why I said Light speed energy exertion and mass is = to Infinite is not because its actually infinite. Is because theres nothing of the recorded universe that succeeds that speed. A dust Particle reaches the Force of a Nuclear Weapon travelling at 90% of light speed because its density and mass Is constantly increasing. Due to this the energy exerted also accelerates and increases. And even if so, Something hitting the earth at a speed EVEN COMPARABLE to light speed would annihlate the ozone and atmosphere and decimate all life and completely level continents. If you actually took any time in your life to actually Study science of any sorts you'd know this. All Might is fodder to jotaro. A single punch = the force of newtons that far exceeds the bomb of a nuclear bomb. Not to mention at MFTL+ Speeds in a punch he can easily crank out atleast 100 punches in a second. (1/2)
(2/2) His longest beatdown, on steely dan was about 22-25 seconds, thats over 2k Nuclear forces. And saying 100 punches a second is on the "Im disrespecting your entire bloodline" end. Keep in mind this is Jotaro crossing into Start-mid SDC. Where he's not nearly as strong as he was in End-part 3 Stuff like. Science and fucking Common sense greatly outweights your perception of "Logic" here. stop being an extraneous Pain in the ass and go do something better with your life.
@@somerandomdude827 I never said a Nuke decimates all life. I said something that Travels a speed comparable to that of Light speed will annihlate the ozone and Atmosphere, killing all life on earth and effectively leveling continents. Mass is density and just because Star Platinum technically is not physical, doesn't mean it doesn't have a mass since it can literally interact with real world objects.
I'm finna join this niggas discord right now lol, I bet it fire
damn straight 🔥💪🏾
@@JobberGodot y'all gonna like me there I guarantee, I the one with the Megaman PFP
How does the diamond teeth feat scale? Also I don’t get powerscaler terms like x-level. Some attacks are massive AoE, and others attack only in a small area so I don’t get it.
I’ve got that feat scaled out in my Jotaro video
@@JobberGodot alright I’ll give it a watch
@@JobberGodot hm, just watched that section and it just said “seabed teeth”, weren’t they specifically said to be as hard as diamond?
Yea
@@the17kyd66 the calc was made assuming the “hard as diamonds” line was hyperbole you could probably get it to like city block level If they were as hard as diamonds
I feel like if jotaro was accidentally saw Jolyne in danger and did it before he tried to punch pucci he would have won
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Question, do you have a stutter? Or go off script alot. While talking you pause between words a few times or fumble.
Stutter? Nah I be rapping, jkjk lol. I both sometimes stutter and go off script 😅
@@JobberGodotjobber so theirs some people saying all mights speed should be multiplied by 60x since his speed should be relative to his strength due to how one for all works, but I don’t really agree with this so I just wanted to know what you think of the argument?
Jotaro stills stomps My Fodder Academia No Diff
Fodder? There feats are thousands of times better lol
@@somerandomdude827 except they feats are Nowhere to be proof as level as reaching Jotaro does when Jotaro is Completely Mountain level and Mftl who equal to DIO himself while DIO is Far superior and far greater stronger and more Nothing compare to those feats unlike my fodder does
@@somerandomdude827 MHA only has the AP advantage. Jotaro Blitzes the verse and can one shot a solid 85% of it. A Hamon user can blitz and neg the durability of the whole verse. MHA is like the third most fodder anime rn, above AOT and Demon Slayer.
@@FlowSouls they have large island+ feats and scaling and jotaro is city level at best
@@somerandomdude827 Except for that They Feats and can scale High up Which He is No longer as City Block Level he is already way way alot Above as that as Mountain level due to they feats say as otherwise so No Wonder this is such Downplayers im debating right now
I got a problem with jotaro having fate manipulation, sure in jojo cosmology jotaro has fate manipulation, but how would that work in a different universe where fate is different?
A vs battle would just mash both characters verses together, Jotaro wouldn’t solely be in the MHA verse for the vs, as well as All Might wouldn’t solely be in the JoJo verse. The fight would take place as if both verses were mashed together in this fight
@@JobberGodot fair enough
@@joegun4259 Standard battle assumptions is what he's referring to.
Its a no brainer that jotaro wins.
Yes. Jotaro could win, in close range. However, All Might can literally make air bullets by just punching the air.
Jotaro has Star Finger, can flick random objects turning them into bullets, has superhuman travel speed, and can stop time to close distance.
@@jansobieski8414jotaro absolutely does not have superhuman travel speed, not even star platinum does, he's at maximum peak human. I don't remember much from all might but star finger's range is considerably smaller than all might's air bullets, all might should also have the ability to tank bullets anyways
U ever delve into the non Canon material. Also when u dropping a top 10 strongest stands + where they scale to and maybe a challenge for you could be top 10 stands that could beat goku or even wou idk man i just need more content
Nah, but I definitely will in the future
Allmight clears. W vid tho
Just looking at the thumb nail
Of corse jotoro win’s literally just get close stop time and donut all might purple jojo definitely as the AP to donut all might
Why is this a question
Jotaro Kujo vs Kenshiro
(Jojo's Bizarre Adventure vs Fist of the North Star).
i dont know what kenshiro can do but the only thing i do know is that he wont see it coming
Kenshiro takes the win easily.
And I'm not biased, (just look at my profile....)
I just watched Fist of the North Star.
You are way overestimating Jotaro's speed.
The calculations assume that Polnareff moves 1000x the speed of light.
However, Polnareff knew the trajectory of the Hanged Man and could've therefore hit him even while moving slower. He didn't even need to move at all and could've just held his sword in Hanged Man's way.
Jotaro also has a ton of anti-feats regarding his speed, for example getting hit by a car in his fight against Thoth and Hol Horse.
Also, even if the speed of his stand attacks was that insane, his travel speed is clearly just that of a normal human, except for one time in his fight against DIO where he uses stand jumps to travel a bit faster.
Meanwhile, All Might can jump hundreds of meters and even redirect himself mid-air.
So travel speed and agility go to All Might and would stop him from getting blitzed.
PS: How is round two high diff when Jotaro literally can't injure All Might?
Everything you said here Is false 1. It doesn't matter if silver chariot knew the trajectory he was shown moving faster on panel he didn't “held his sword in hanged man's way” he only attacked after hanged man started traveling
All might doesn't resort to destructive capacity in fights he's trying to stop collateral damage also why is travel speed relevant here they aren't running a marathon.
Second round is high diff because all might has no counter to TS and is thousands of times slower
@@somerandomdude827 Travel speed is relevant because Jotaro has to be relatively close to attack, even with time stop he needs to be able to attack his enemy in 5 seconds.
Since All Might's travel speed and agility are higher, he could stay safe by jumping through the sky.
Granted, that alone doesn't mean All Might would win, but it's part of the reason I think Jotaro would have a harder time than the video makes it seem like.
@@somerandomdude827 I still think there are plenty of anti-feats to show that stands aren't *that* fast. 1000x FTL is just ridiculous.
Maybe Hanged Man doesn't move at the speed of light or maybe Araki just didn't think of the implications.
Cool
this should be updated for Prime Deku
Was kinetic force from speed included in the calculations?
From my calculations (granted they are most likely wrong) if jotaro was moving at 4800 times the speed of light with an average fist mass of 409.6 grams he would exert 4.2408589963461E+21 Newtons of force with a singular punch. If I have made a mistake in my calculations please let me know
You can't use faster than light kinetic energy
Sick video but you're JobberGodot so its bad.
Have you seen the recent ger drbunks putting him at building level ap and mftl speed
😂 building level that doesn’t even make sense
yea
@@davidxp6253 yeah they say his speed feats don't make sense and what not
@@JobberGodot ger should technically be multiversal due to scaling above silver chariot requiem who pulls souls from different dimensions and should scale above tusk act 4 who breaks dimensional wall and still has stand stats while ger has stats that all say none meaning while tusk act 4 can be measured with the regular alphabetical tiering ger cant and should scale above act 4 ger Also has another universal to multiversal feat with putting Diavolo in the death loop which can be implied that ger made a world for the loop
@@Lwangombothwe he’s speed does make sense cause he quite literally negated a time ability that forces you to carry out actions while not knowing what’s going on but if that’s not enough we can still scale ger to stands like made in heaven which has an infinity in speed while even infinite speed can be measured gers speed still can’t so with both these feats ger should at least be outside of linear time or should have immeasurable speed due to scaling to made in heaven
jotaros time stop would be enough to punch a hole through all might
All might is like casual city buster, jotaro aint punchin no holes immediately
@@darksith7282 it doesn't matter if you can blow up a city, how are you gonna do that when time stops? Let alone All might figuring out that Jotaro could time stop and spam it
that and also all might literally cant see star platinum so he wont see it coming
@@darksith7282 he wouldn't need to, star platinum can easily just crush his heart, brain, any organ he wants by going through the person
A dub/W for ma boi Jotaro! Let's go! 🔥
I AM HERE
only Gs know the real thumbnail to this video
Fax 😂
What about Jotaro vs kira he didn’t really kill him. But he was able to kill dio I’m confused if he was that strong
Doesn’t Jotaro have Durability Negation as he can phase through matter and crush his heart or somethin
Still waiting for that yujiro video jobby 👩🏿🦲
👀
Yujiro scales above Oliva, who was able to affect the who world
@@Magenta.000 the huh
@@joegun4259 *the Facepalm*
So, Starplatinum get Nerfd a lot after part3.
The power scale was to high in the end of part3, but never got so high in literally force scale. Dio and Jotaro were a lot out of the scale compared to other stands physical force
Like, when Starplatinum beats the shit out of someone in part4, the consequences are less than a half of when he did it in part 3
And probably the biggest nerf was the capacle of movement, out and, mainly, in the time stop
StarPlatinum never get nurfed... He never said he got weaker. His timestop duration increased from 2 seconds to 5. So he did get stronger.
@@angryvikzr6244 saying and showing are 2 different things
@@miranhaespada1381 Did araki ever show or said that jotaro got weaker? Watch jotaro vs MIH. and you will understand
@@angryvikzr6244 yes, he was weaker since the beginning of part 4 until the C-moon arc, mainly in movement speed
Just watch Jotaro VS bug eater or Jotaro VS SHA
Focus on the time stop parts
"oh no Koichi, even if I stop time, I can't get there" he had 2 seconds of time stop
12 years later, Jotaro can stop time for 5 seconds, he stops time walks (no he didn't run, he walked normally) a distance that was bigger than the one between Jotaro and Sha or even Jotaro and Koichi 12 years before, grabs an harpoon and throws it to Pucci, and says "3 more seconds", so just 2 seconds have passed
The same thing applys in part 3, DIO traveled almost 20 meters chilling in less than 5 seconds to kill Kakyoin and left before time resumes (so more than 20 meters and a kill in 5 seconds). A bit later we see that Jotaro and DIO have similar movement speed when they were "wall jumping" towards each other
So late part 6 Jotaro walking can travel more than part 4 Jotaro could do at his max speed to save someone?
If that's not being weaker in part 4, idk what it is.
@@miranhaespada1381 didn't i say he got stronger in part 6? So he was weaker in part 4.
Guys plot twist
All might is muhumad avdol they have same va
I Problem for jotaro is his physical stats
But mainly I got all might extreme diff
Jotaro stops time star fingers all mights brains out from his eye socket
Like I said before all might of cake and Jotato looking to have a pice
i have a genuinely really important question
is all might caked up
@@goofyicerink9560 have you seen him from behind ?
jotaro: oh no im gonna die
all might prime: aaaahahaha
jotaro star platinum the world Over heaven: what are you gonna do now?
R.I.P. Jotaro
Jotaro had less strength but keeped speed but had less precision and reaction time so yeah edit: the world is not stronger nor faster but equal to thsat of star platinum dio is just cocky
wOw
*TIME STOP*
*Penetra su pecho* o *detiene el corazon*
Gg
So all might multi continental explained by mr crafty scales
Jotaro multi large mountain level seeing the man the myth the legend polnerafe can block sun beams which sun beams in joules of energy can destroy large cities mountains
And jotaro is massively stronger then polnerafe making him at least large mountain to multi large mountain level which alot of people overlook so his ap and strength is large mountain to multi large mountain
All might light speed seeing a 20 or less % deku can dodge radio waves which are consistently light speed
Jotaro mftl to infinite
Self explanatory after watching the video
Durability all might
Iq and biq jotaro
Hax jotaro
Ability jotaro
Experience jotaro fighting vampires and stand users since 17 years old and said to be helping the speed wagon foundation in catching criminals so no part 4 jotaro is same level as part 3 but with far more experience plus nothing said he was weaker other then time stop being weaker
Range all might he can punch air waves 100s of feats casually like afo
Endurance debatable all kight with many broken bones can fight afo
And self explanatory for jotaro
Stamina jotaro he can go days fighting while all might non prime is only able to last 2-3 hours said himself in his all might state
Overall debatable yes jotaro is massively faster but all might is massively stronger and more durable and all might has range and can most likely one shot jotaro seeing jotaro never shown a feat or statement to be country level let alone multi continental
So overall all might can 1 shot
But jotaro can stall until he loses his power
But prime all might is a different story
Fate manipulation=plot armor
yeah, it is basically plot armor, just that in jojo it actually has an explanation with ''gravity'' and all this stuff
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Also, didn't 100% deku change the future?
Yes he did but All might can't since night eye was only shocked by Deku while he can still read all might
All might is country lvl and is 8% the speed of light
throw it back all might
My money is on jotaro
Nah bro jotaro win 3/3 star platinum is faster and all might can't hit it Star platinum also have unlimited stamina
Jotaro sweeps
Jotaros best feat was punching a steamroller
All Might best feat was SPLITTING THE FREAKING SKY
Throwing a building + breaking giant teeths harder than diamonds with ease.
He blocked the road roller in stopped time
Jotaro was fighting dio who also split the freaking sky
mha be goofy af
jotaro isnt the strongest in jojo lol
Foddertaro gets clapped no way your comparing all might who can casually destroy multi city blocks and scales higher than characters who are large island level to foddertaro who couldent even destroy a roadroller while the world who scales equally to star platinum was hitting it at the same time 💀 the jojo wank is ridicoulous jojo fans probally cant get over how fodder the verse is 💀 and to add the cherry on top foddertaro and the fodderdust crusaders all got blitzed by a CAR any random person can clap jotaro 💀
Lmao your trolling Sp not destroying a road roller does not down scale his attack potency jotaro is city level+ the crusaders were never blitzed by a car and all might cant even touch him
This dude is like under every Jotaro vs all might video giving his biased explanation for no reason lmao
@@somerandomdude827 it does scale hin down lol
@@somerandomdude827 jotaro aint city level not even close, he couldent even destroy a singular vehicle
@@somerandomdude827 yes they were lol in the hol horse/ thoth fight they all got knocked out by a car lol
jotaro at the begin of part 6 is look at the stats of the begin to the end of part 6.
How would scale SPEEDO WAGOOOOON