I test rode both. Honda let me keep the Rebel for 2 days, Kawasaki let me keep the Vulcan for a day. I found the Rebel marginally more fun around town, but the Vulcan was by _far_ the superior machine overall. I liked the Rebel, but _bought the Vulcan._ Absolutely love it.
This is hilarious, the Vulcan's suspension is better, torque is better, hp is better, instruments are better... but the 500 "has character".... Something is not jiving with this review. Good video, nice production quality, and I love that you did the review while riding. I just wish your conveyed impressions matched your breakdowns of each bike.
@@singlecell2498 yeah the rebel 500 is mint. Gets a lot more attention than I thought it would tbh. The other day had 3 guys on big Harleys marveling over it.
@@TheGarthinator having rode both the Rebel 500 and the Vulcan S. I personally prefer the Vulcan S. I’m a bit taller (6’0) and the Vulcan S fits me like a glove. The Rebel was more compact and easy to snap around turns and twisties, so if you’re a shorter rider or looking to whip through tight roads then that’s your best bet. The Vulcan is a bit faster and snappy on the throttle, if you’re looking for something to really put some solid mileage on then it’s your better choice. Both are smaller bikes and by that nature easy to handle and whip through turns and twisty roads so keep that in mind.
in about 1 month honda will release the new honda rebel 500 2020 model with all things people complained about fixed. new led lights on it , suspension fixed , and for begginers a gear indicator, and a way better seat so it will be the perfect bike for me untill i die.enough power to get out of trouble every time. when i see a rebel on the street i smile. that`s happiness for me. can`t wait to buy the new one and customize it in order to be an unique motorcycle! the vulcan s is a nice bike, but i will follow my heart.
I just spent 2 weeks figuring out which of these 2 bikes to buy, and after riding each one I ended up falling in love with the Vulcan because of its sheer torque that I felt it had over the Rebel, and it's comfort felt better. I also was buying this for an occasional commuter and a weekend trip bike with my girlfriend and the rear seat was way better on the Vulcan! Now if I was only commuting around town, hell yeah the rebel was amazing. So light weight and nimble. But I think the Vulcan will take much more time to grow out of due to its additional features and power. Amazing comparison video though guys, you've earned a sub! :)
Hi mike, i owned a 2015 vulcan s 650 but i gave it up after over a year. I loved the acceleration. It is a crotch rocket. My biggest gripe was I cannot ride it for more than an hour.. the vibration at speeds when i have to maintain over 4k rpm, the bike’s vibration makes my feet, lower leg, hands and fingers numb especially on long freeway continuous ride. How are you with it? I am curious.
@@bennyang8049 so I have only had the bike since Thursday, but my freeway riding has been no longer than 30 minutes at a time. I have put over 200 miles on it so far and haven't noticed vibrating yet!
@@bennyang8049 Hi Benny, sad to hear you sold it, did you take it to the shop to check for a problem...balancing? My Vulcan has vibes at 3200rpm only then zero up to any range on the tacho
Tony Hagoort i rode another rider’s vulcan S during a group ride and a Versys 650 at a demo ride and the vibration is the same as mine. I figured that is just the character of the kawasaki 650 engine
I bought a 2015 Vulcan S (non - ABS) in April of 2018. It was sold new in 2017 and had only 394 miles on it. I hadn't ridden in over 27 years. I rode a 78 Suzuki GS850 back in the early 90's. When the dealer told me about the trade that they had just taken in that was in my price range, I asked what it was and the displacement. He told me it was a 650 Kawasaki Vulcan. I was not impressed over the phone, but I went down and test rode it. The rest is history. I immediately fell in love with how it feels to ride the Vulcan S. It has plenty of power and it's still very light feeling. It's a great looking motorcycle and I'm confident that it will last a long time without issues. It's liquid cooled. I get 48-60 mpg. It's more impressive than I ever imagined possible. I did add mirror extensions to raise the mirrors. I was looking at my shoulders. I haven't ridden a Rebel. It's a nice looking bike too.
Well as stated I love me the Vulcan S as well as it is a bike that punches high above the CC class and is a blast to ride. But for the needs we have it is fun to have the more narrow and light 500CC. However, I will do a stand alone on this bike as it never has seen the light on this channel yet and we've had it now for almost two years and to also explain in greater detail what this bike has to offer. Enjoy and be safe on your Vulcan you have a great motorcycle. RSMF
I have a 2017 Rebel 500, I put a Puig wind screen on and a Mustang seat and a mustang passenger seat I also put Shad 23 side cases. And for my wife’s safety I added a sissy bar with a padded back rest. It also has a rack for additional carry options. Great bike and has all the speed and power I need. 0-60 in under 6 seconds. I’m 68 and 5’6” so this bike fits my age and height. I looked at the Vulcan and felt the tank was to wide and it felt top heavy so I went with the rebel and no regrets.
I like most all of the reviewers but you are at the top of the heap: informative, articulate, fun for the listener and you do it all without swearing. Good job.
Thanks for the comparison. I have a 2015 Vulcan S with ABS and I love it. It handles great, has really good acceleration, and is light for a cruiser. My first motorcycle was a 2006 Honda Rebel Chinese copycat and it was good to learn on but as soon as I got comfortable, I wanted more power. My 2nd motorcycle was a 2012 Honda Shadow Phantom and that one looked amazing and had the more power I was looking for at the time. I had a near accident on the highway when the breaks locked up on me in an emergency and I decided to upgrade to a motorcycle with ABS. The Vulcan S is that bike. It has great breaking with ABS and it also has more power and is lighter than the Honda Shadow. All that for roughly the same price. When people ask me for advice on a 1st bike I can’t decide between the new Honda Rebel with ABS and the Kawasaki Vulcan S with ABS. So thank you for your input. Sounds like the lightness of the Rebel makes it a more interesting ride.
Being lighter on its feet and the mid mount controls do help it out for sure. The Vulcan S is not a bad bike at all by any measure at all. It's just when it comes down to the fun to ride and play in town nature of the 500 and its character it does win.
@Bunnyshooter 223 I think every new car sold in the USA has ABS. It only comes in handy in emergency situations which is when you need it most. If you were an expert race car driver or motorcycle rider then ABS would potentially not be as good at braking as you but I am not an expert and I have my Oh Sh*t moments in cars and motorcycles so I appreciate having ABS and a good set of tires to save my behind. I also tend to ride or drive fairly aggressively at times so the extra safety feature is welcomed by me. Stay safe.
Vulcan for me. I don’t want a cruiser for urban driving, I just want one that’s competent around town. I get a cruiser for cruising, Open highways, sweeping roads, etc. I want to take it on an an afternoon adventure, not pick up groceries and tampons. The rebels ergo is poor for long rides with its hunched forward position, it’s seat quickly becomes uncomfortable , the mid controls start to make the knees ache, and she’s can be a bit gutless at highway speed. She also starts to feel light in the front end at higher speeds, she’s not nearly as comfortable in the freeway as the Vulcan. To me she’s a naked bike in a cruisers clothing. If that’s what you want, fantastic… she does it great, but I bought a cruiser to cruise.
I haven't ridden either bike, but as an experienced rider, I'd go with the Vulcan with ABS. More power, adjustable ergo's, better seat(according to ur review). I've had bikes that "didn't fit" and sold them. No bike will work for everyone's needs. Nice review....😸
The Rebel beat the 883 because it actually has a better power to weight ratio. Even against the Vulcan S the power to weight ratio is almost identical between the two. Now the Vulcan (and 883) do have more torque, but the difference felt in the seat shouldn't be all that different. And starting with the 2020 model the Rebel display has been updated with a gear indicator and a couple other things, but still no tachometer. But it's better than it was. The Rebel also has a very nice slipper clutch which the Vulcan does not have. Main advantages for the Vulcan in my opinion are better looks, better stock exhaust and better aftermarket exhaust options, and most importantly just better comfort for longer rides. Now if you consider the $1000+ price difference, you can buy the Rebel and upgrade the seat, exhaust, and make some cosmetic changes to suit your own taste and you eliminate all these disadvantages.
I went into the dealership yesterday to try out the Vulcan. I was sitting on it and the bars were a bit too far forward. So I asked the salesman about Ergofit. Guess what he said. "Yeah, we got Ergofit. But I don't think you need it." "Look here, I have to lean forward 2 inches to make it fit my reach." "Meh. How long you gonna ride. It'll be fine." What a great salesman, eh? Arguing with the customer about what feels comfortable. I may drive 50 miles north and get an Indian Scout instead.
You can ride the vulcan like a slow thumpy cruiser or use the revs to make it perform like a sports bike, the narrow tyres help with tipping into the corners.
Another thing is if you are in the US you can remove the limiter on it that makes it Ninja 650 power again, if anywhere else it is a limiter and a screw in the throttle.
Yay!!! Just bought the rebel 500 and love it so much. I’m so glad to be able to read reviews before I chose a bike. I test ride the Vulcan and just like you said, The rebel felt like more of an extension of me whereas the Vulcan just felt a little ungainly being a new rider.
After 5 months how are you enjoying the rebel 500? Sorry to ask, but do you mind sharing what you paid for it? I spoke with a dealer and they’re offering $5,500+tax and licensing fee for a used rebel500 with 1,500 miles on it. Does that sound like a good deal?
Tyler Gable hey I’m in ur same position, looking for a rebel 500 and i think yu can find better.. maybe wait for winter to kick in and you’ll see better deals. That’s what I’m doing
Davis Turk does that not seem like a good deal? How much do you anticipate bike price to drop in winter? And with the 2020 release maybe the price will drop too, but i’m not sure how much. That’s the problem
@@tylergable2445 hey there , if you didnt buy the honda rebel yet, you should seriously save 1000$ and buy the new honda rebel 2020 which has fixed all the problems .5.500 is too much for an used motorcycle, new motorcycle a lot of new accesories, and is only 6.100$ here in Spain. in about 1 month i go for the blue version and it will be awesome. take care
I do agree with you on a lot points about the Honda Rebel 500 but It does have an ABS option for 300 dollars more. Personally my choice would be the Kawasaki Vulcan 650 but I wouldn't recommend the Vulcan to a total new rider that just pass their MSF course.
Years ago I had a rigid framed BSA gold Star that I had to ride back and forth from Shreveport where I worked to Houston where my family lived. After that I picked up a Honda CB5004F. Both these bikes cemented the belief in my brain that 500cc was as capable as MY bike needed to be. After years that have included a Z1, 2 ST1300s, 2 Goldwings, Yammie 750 Virago, BMW K75 and R90/6 I still love the 500cc class bikes. Easy to own, economical to operate and light
Drove both and enjoyed both of em. I prefer the Rebel more cause I find it more comfortable to ride than the Vulcan. Doesn't mean the Vulcan isn't comfortable but I have short and stuby legs.
Great video! I owned a 2014 CB500F which the Rebel 500 shares its engine with and it is a great motor that is usually more than enough for tons of fun. My main gripe was that at speeds around 100 km/h it doesn't get up and go very well for passing. I would wager that the 650 Vulcan would be better for that. That being said, it's perfectly fine to just stay in your lane and enjoy the ride in most cases without passing so not being able to make decisive passes isn't a deal-breaker to everyone. It's nice to see people look past a spec sheet when reviewing a bike. My current bike is 556 lbs and sometimes I miss the lightweight CB500F; it just takes a bit more concentration to ride the GSX650F in tight spaces and sharp U-turns than the CB500F did which I sometimes miss.
I've only owned two street bikes, both cruisers (Honda Shadow Sabre 1100 and Honda VTX1300R) so my experience is limited. I sold the VTX just over a year ago and am really missing being on two wheels. As I'm getting older (51 now) and am not a big guy anyway (5'6" and 170 lbs.,) I find myself wanting a smaller, lighter bike that I can just have more fun on. I know the Rebel will have no power compared to the VTX. It had crazy power and I loved it. I don't see me riding the interstate very often. I would be riding back roads and small highways mostly. I've been trying to decide between the Vulcan S and the Rebel 500 for a while. I think the fun factor and lower weight makes me want to go with the Rebel. Add to that it's basically made for someone my size. I don't need the power of the VTX anymore. I just want to get on two wheels and have fun. Besides, I used to have an absolute blast riding a 150cc scooter. LOL. I think the 2020 Rebel 500 will suit me fine.
The Rebel make one 1100ccm 86hp, and a DCR Version with no Clutch, Automatic and Manual Gear, Gears Change with 2 Paddle on your Steering not with you feet, But need a ECU Flash have a 98 Mph Limit same the Rebel 500 have this Limit, for an 1100 ccm and 86 hp Bike is this slow, for the 500 ccm ok
I don't know the Rebel but I have the Vulcan S. It's a handsome small cruiser. You can have fun with that bike. Just cruising around but you also can have some fun at cornering because that bike is not that heavy. Actually a great bike! Sometimes I just miss that it is somehow special, just like a Harley or an Indian. It's not a bike that makes people watching twice. But you have a nice and reliable cruiser and it's not really expensive!
I'm going for the Vulcan S for my next bike. I had a 650 Vstar classic which was amazing, and I'm currently riding a 96 Magna with 32000 mildz, also a wonderful bike.
Even for a guy who's been riding almost 20 years can have fun on these. It's more fun to ride a small bike hard and fast than a big bike where it's easy. Just more exciting in my opinion. I'm looking for a small bike to do just that on instead of riding my 1600 all the time
I'm getting the Rebel 300, and the Vulcan will be my upgrade bike. I'm short and want as light of a bike as possible as my first bike. Get my confidence up THEN get the heavier bike.
Awesome comparison. I am gonna get the Vulcan S. Would like the Yamaha Bolt but hearing and seeing the speed wobble makes me nervous. Also wanted to say you awesome for replying to these comments. Especially the details on editing since I want the recording hobby along with riding this time. Thanks for the content.
The peg position alone makes a huge difference between the two bikes. I own a Vulcan S and the forward positioning pegs does not give you that confidence like it would with a closer peg position like the rebel. Even when the vulcan S is adjusted to the short positioning. Avoiding bumps and such, the pegs being forward you would have to somewhat also pull on the handlebar to prop yourself up a bit vs just using your legs to prop yourself in the rebel. So for new riders, having that sense of control makes all the difference in your confidence level.
Its good all the negatives of the Honda Rebel they have upgraded for the 2020 year, being, upgraded suspension, new seat, cluster with a gear indicator in it, comes with LED front and rear lights too as standard - I definitely will be buying one later in the year when i have time to pick up riding again
Nice review dude, so to the point. In Belgium the Rebel500 is not sold well, riders go to Vulcan s instead. The seat of the Vucan S is so confortable, the Rebel 500 seat is hard from minute one. I'm agree with you, Rebel500 al the way for the reasons that you mentioned.
And a couple of extra dollars, but still under the price of the Vulcan S, you can get that seat changed too! But I do like both bikes and it does help to have both in the garage. I will hopefully one day have the perspective of my wife who is the main rider of the Vulcan S and what she thinks of both.
@@RabidHedgehog Hello, did you get your wife perspective of both bikes? This summer I may buy the Vulcan S new over the Rebel 500 just because my wife chooses for me :) , I love both bikes and wish to have both of them. I will go with the Vulcan S because I'm afraid that I will grow up the Rebel 500 quickly.
Many thanks for making this as there’s more and more bikers that have been riding for years and although they have been riding for such a long time they now want a bike that’s not a sport bike but one that importantly is not as heavy as as the 700 +lbs of a traditional cruiser also being well behaved in city driving and is capable of keeping up with motorway traffic for the odd week end away. I would like to see you match either of these bikes against the Royal Enfield
That is not what was being said and by no means. We say first by stating that this bike is a good place to start but it is also a great bike as well for people who have rode for years. I have well over 10 years of two wheeled experience and these two are in my garage. We are just stating that a first time person can approach this bike easily and grow with it.
Well I've had a Ninja 300 for 4 months(my first bike) and I already want more power off the line mostly. So I wish I would've bought a bigger bike in the end.
Is a 500 - 650 really even close to the biggest bike out there? Most people I know that ride are riding far bigger and faster bikes. As a first time rider who can only afford one bike, I definitely want one big enough to handle freeway speeds so I can actually go places or why bother. I can just ride a bicycle if I want to just cruise around town and I can't afford to buy another bike anytime soon, so anything less than 500 doesn't even seem realistic.
@@frontdeskstaff9359 have you considered the VN 900? My first bike was a shadow 1100 but I liked the VN 900 just as much. I then moved to a vulcan vaquero 1700 which was great for long trips but to be honest, its not that fun especially around town so now I'm back to looking at a smaller funner bike that gives me gas mileage, that fun factor and makes around town and commuting more enjoyable. not looking at the rebel as I still want a bike that can handle the free way and that IMO means a minimum of a 900 v-twin or a 650 sport style engine.
So, I just got my cycle endorsement and I don't have a bike yet, and I'm looking at both of these bikes, and I am going to test ride them, but as a dude who is 6'5", the Rebel has me concerned with those middle mounted pegs. I've done some tests in my chair here and I've noticed that it's harder to kick my foot up as if I'm upshifting the closer my foot is to my body. It puts a strain in my Achilles' tendon and my instep. The bike I learned on was an HD Street 500 and if I didn't commit to the upshift, I would get a false neutral. One time I even had it in 3rd by mistake (I upshifted twice). So, for my skills test, when it came to the one test where we had to be in 2nd gear, since it wasn't my bike, I just decided to kick the gear up as hard as I could. So, I'm definitely more interested in the Vulcan S for its forward mounted pegs.
A beginner rider doesn't really need a tachometer. They can learn by feeling the torque range through each power band or gear. Dirt bikes don't have tachometers.
I miss having a small bike. Bigger isn’t always better. My Vulcan 1600 is like driving a dump truck sometimes. Besides it’s more fun to push a small bike sometimes 👍🏼
For sure. That is the one thing that I have always kept in the garage is the small bike. With the Dyna there was a Sporty, with the Night Rod there was this Rebel, but many other small bikes as well. Z125, XT250, my wife's S40 which I would oddly swipe every now and again. Now it is a 41 year old CX500C, but it's still that wonderful small displacement machine that you can get to 100% of what it can do and not really or actually be breaking the law completely.
So I have a 2019 rebel 500. And I customized the crap out of it. It’s super simple to work on if you see my bike next to a stock bike you’ll think there 2 different models And it’s not my first bike. I’ve had several bikes. And this thing is the best riding bike I’ve ever been on. I had rockets and cruisers. Hands down the best bike
I loved that little Rebel and to be honest I need to get another. I sold it and this Vulcan S so my wife could upgrade her ride to her Scout she has now. But another Rebel is on the list to procure.
I heard you both, but i have my insights since i am planning to buy one of the two choices... Firsr i have to confirmed for Asean market if the honda, their assembly line is in China, if it is there... Scratch.. 2nd, i have to see for myself phisically the difference, then on the vulcan s, i have to look for replacement parts for longevity and the availability of parts, in my city honda if it is a celphone, it is a user friendly, many parts available.. But on the big bike category, they are even... There is also if the ground clearance is low, philippines has lots of lots of humps and bad roads.. So i go for much higher ground clearance.. We filipinos love those japanese brand makers... Like i said, your advice is well i think helps a lot.. Thanks... Lastly, VULCAN S. Is a named taken for vulcano i think, meaning hot, as a fire fighter in my city, Vulcan is our radio call sign. Thats one thing maybe i go for the Vulcan S.... Lol. Peace and love... Have a safe drive along the way!
For most people watching this video, let me warn you, these guys are not the norm. Most riders get board with their small bike very fast & end up wanting something larger. Selling & buying bikes often comes at a loss. 1. never buy new, buy used. 2. buy as big a bike as you are comfortable with & realize your comfort will increase with just a few days. Don't get me wrong, it will take years to become a good rider but that 900 to 1200cc bike that seems scary at first wont after just a few days. Just look for something cheap at first as you are going to drop it. Your first bike is a learning tool, don't get something expensive & pretty. Save that cool factor after you have ridden for a year.
I tried the Rebel 500 (i'm still too in love with it) for 4hours but i felt hard pain in knee after 2hours. I'm only 5.8... I'll need to try the Vulcan S. since I want something similar but more confortable for long ride.
Ergonomics appear very different. Foot pegs look further forward on the Kawasaki & maybe more comfortable for those with longer legs. Honda ergonomics look very similar to the Suzuki S40 I used to have & it was the most painful bike I ever rode. (Try before you buy!) Probably fine for riders under 5'5".
After test riding the Vulcan s, the yamaha bolt, and the rebel 500 all in the same day, I can easily say the Vulcan s is the best, then the rebel. 2 very fun bikes. The yamaha bolt is an absolute snooze fest. I'd been waiting years to ride the bolt, I thought for sure it was the bike for me... but no way, it reminded me of my 2008 suzuki s50 boulevard. Too slow. I could not believe it. I own a Kawasaki z900rs that I'll be trading on a Vulcan s. Love the channel btw 👍
I have attempted to do a review on the Bolt so many times... But I have absolutely nothing to say good about it and hence the reason it has never ended up on my channel. I had the displeasure of riding the Café variety as well and when I as watching the end result I seriously just deleted it because it was about ten minutes of riding and talking about the specs and such and then it became 20 minutes of please oh please get me off this thing I hate my life..... The Vulcan S performance wise is the number 1 for sure. Also if your style is a bit more speed seeking and such it would indeed win. We were trying to go for bang for dollars and to be honest it is very hard to be the little Rebel in that department. Although yes the Vulcan S comes close.
@@RabidHedgehog Yes, I'm not one to complain. I was on a motorcycle after all. But I'm astounded at my experience with the bolt. I longed to ride it and.... nothing. Anyway, I have to correct my statement. The Vulcan s is not the EASY winner. The Rebel is a FANTASTIC bike. Its honestly a toss up. The only way to know is to ride them for yourself!
As a first rider and being sport bike lover I would go for Ninja 400, but also loving the rebel 500. Two different styles and behaviors I would love to get them both but have to choose one.
Hey +Rabid Hedgehog, Thanks for a great review! I just bought the Rebel 500 in all black!! What headset did you and Seagull use? The audio sounds super clear! :)
Seagull is using a Purple Panda Lav mic into Sony AS-100V straight up. I am using a modified Sena 20S mic only to Sony UX560 digital audio recorder. We can hear each other talk through a standard Sena 20S.
Nice review Mate. I think that they are very good for the money and very good around the town. As you suggested I think that the Vulcan S would be the best for the high way. Thank you for sharing.
Stupid question (i am not a rider, but interested): how did you two communicate and how was it SO clear?! I am super impressed. Just looks like sucha fun thing to do. Ride around town with your buddy having conversations etc.
Not a stupid question at all. The audio is a bit on the rigged side on this as there were two separate field recorders along with two separate mics. However, there are helmet communication systems from Sena and Cardo that are really good at transmitting conversations, which is how we heard each other so we knew when to talk and how to answer questions.
You both picked the Rebel? That's an absolute laugher. I've ridden both for quite a while and it's not even close. The Rebel 500 couldn't pack the Vulcan S' lunch.
Has nothing to do with speed or power or anything like that it is about affordability, fun, ease of use, and a little bit of soul. The Vulcan S is indeed faster and such I get that but it kind of feels like an appliance where as the Rebel 500 has just a more fun soul. Probably the mid controls or whatever it might be, but there is just something about the Rebel.
Also rode both; vulcan felt like the old man's bike while looking like a racedrivers dream of a cruiser, Rebel felt like the racedrivers dream of a cruiser while looking like the old man's bike. Choose the second, ran out every cruiser I've seen as soon as a curve appeared... usually drive in circles arround them while they try manouver their ships... me cheeky lil rebel on my lil Rebel.
Thanks for your video; I appreciate the confusion. I don't think the age of this video would change my question and I'm shopping between these two right now. One of you mentioned that the Rebel was "easier to insure" than the Vulcan. Now, had he said "cheaper", I would have understood that, so I was hoping you might clarify what "easier" means? While I'm at it, I am not a completely new rider, but one who hasn't in a very long time and I thought I might choose a Rebel because of it's size and weight (color choices are better too). I'm 5, 11 & 150#, but also a gym rat, so bike weight isn't an issue, but size is. The Rebel 900 is too big for me and would be wasted. Whatever model I get, I don't want to replace it - ever. I'm thinking I might be more satisfied with the Vulcan in my case, even though just crossing town would be what I would mainly do with it. I don't want to get a Rebel and then think I should have gotten the larger engine on the Vulcan. In my town (Lakeland) we use the interstate (I-4) frequently, but if only 2 or 3 exits. Then there's the occasional trip to Orlando on one side, Tampa on the other by about 45 minutes, once or twice a year. Okay, maybe bike week in Daytona too. I must be comfortable going 80, so I won't get run over. But other than that, I'm not going canyon riding or racing. I have no "need for speed", other than what is necessary to keep up with traffic without taxing the engine. I'm not sure if a Rebel and a featherweight rider might get blown off the road. I'm a very fit 64 and I want a bike to keep, not to trade later. As a for instance, my car is 6 years old, paid for, looks new (I'm an auto detailer) and I have no intention of replacing it; that was my intent when I bought it too. I don't want perpetual car payments or motorcycle payments either. For this type of purchase, I make an informed decision, love what I buy and keep it forever. I wanted the Rebel first, then I think I decided on the Vulcan, but then the Rebel keeps popping up again. I am enjoying my frustration and indecision, but all good things must come to an end. I'll let you know what that end, ends up being.
first...yamaha volt 950 maked me fall in love with moto...and i knew i could not get the bike..and i was interested in rebel 500...but now i am with vulcan 650s! and i am asian..sorry for bad english..haha
Yeah, you get used to it over time. It's like cool glad you like the Vulcan but why the rest of the words? lol But seriously I do not mind the opinions of others and as I tried to say to some it is really about the overall picture to a newer rider, not speed and power.
Even though every review of the Rebel 500 that the rider stated his height, he was over 6 feet, I bought one anyway, because I can flat foot it at 5'6".
Honda needs to call it a 470, or increase the engine to what it's called. Suspension quality on both is very budget. Otherwise, either would run 30 times around the earth without breaking down probably.
They don't care what the USA market wants. We are nothing to Honda. Nevertheless, they had to stick to a 47 hp limit for other markets and making a 471cc engine was the way to do that. Ever since the EX500/Ninja 500R/Vulcan 500 went away, there's not been a true 500cc twin on the market that has performed the same way, with similar power, in modern technology. It's a hole in the market unfilled. Aprilia had an SXV550 twin for a time, but the engine was a disaster of breakdowns.
I have owned a Vulcan S, it is a lot faster than people think. Has a Ninja motor in it, goes like stink for a 650cc. Only reason I sold it, too low in the seat. Great all around bike.
@@RabidHedgehog So, men, I finally own this bike (2020 edition with ABS): great, nimble and funny bike with only one problem - replacing battery takes really long time. It's unbelievably difficult! :oD But I like it, at all!
@@RabidHedgehog yeah I kinda wanna test ride one now. I just rode the harley street rod and I can believe that after 3 years of people complain about things that were unbearable on that bike that they still aren't fixing them. Good on Honda for actually fixing that stuff.
Nice video, though at times I did get confused about a) who was talking, and b) which bike they were referring to. But otherwise, great review. Think I'm sold on the Vulcan
It is not a bad platform. Overall the only reason the Rebel won this was due to affordability and versatility. The Vulcan S though is much quicker yes, but a bit more expensive in both MSRP and insurance.
I’d rather that modern cruisers have a Tacho and a gear counter stock with the ability to remove if you really didn’t want it. - love, modern Honda Shadow rider.
Great comparison video! I've been dealing on both these bikes and seriously change my mind every hour. Option 1 is a 2018 rebel 500 with 2300kms $5500 Option 2 is a 2016 vulcan s with 4500kms $5000. This in Canadian dollars. I'm leaning towards the rebel for fun /reliably and always had a thing for the bobber look, being 200lbs and 6' tall would I be too cramped up on the rebel? It's a long drive either direction for either bike so dont want to waste a trip. If u think I'll fit just fine on the rebel I'll take your advise! Dont mind the leaned forward bobber ergos anyway
Good video with good info but guys plz, dont ride so close to the centre line, especially if oncoming traffic. If the oncoming vehicle slides out there is zero space and you will get hit. I know it looks cool staggered riding but it's not worth it. If needed have more space.
I dont like the 500's display. That square LED on with a huge round bezel just looks cheap. I get that they wanted to look retro but from the cockpit it looks bad.
If that shall ever present itself. We currently do not have a Royal Enfield dealer at this time. We had one for like three months and they decided to just pull the line.
Great video on two good general purpose motorcycles, Honda Rebel 500 and Kawasaki Vulcan S 650. Route 33 and South Division St. in Guthrie, OK, I figured out your route with the help of Google Maps. Guthrie is a real nice looking town, never been there, but I enjoyed your quick "tour". Cheers from Vancouver, BC.
I use a purple panda mic in each helmet. Each of us is also using a separate field recorder. Either a TASCAM DR-05 or Sony UX560. We then use the Cardo PackTalk, (or in this case Sena 20S), to talk back and forth to hear each other. So this allows a cleaner audio.
The Rebel 500 you will most likely be looking to upgrade soon. The Vulcan S you will find you don't even need to upgrade. The Vulcan S pisses all over other bikes in that range.
I would not say that. Depends on why you are riding. Just getting out an enjoying the views you will not care about power or speed. Blazing into corners and wanting the performance yes.
Honda just makes more comfortable/refined riding bikes. Kawasaki have always leaned toward performance. I have a Kawasaki C14 and a Honda VFR800. It is funny how the Honda has half the displacement, lighter, less wind protection and not as much touring weight capacity. But the VFR800 by far is a more fun/comfortable touring bike than the Kawasaki C14 overall. Does not mean I do not like both bikes. But it would seem that this video is an example of the difference in focus between how Honda and Kawasaki approaches their designs.
So here's the thing. I've not seen any used rebel 500's for cheap. I've not even seen 250's in decent condition for cheap. I can only afford one bike and one to keep. I can't afford the extra cost to upgrade a year later. So which one do I get between the two? The rebel seems easier to handle around town but I live in Southern California. If I bother to ride, I'll be doing regular 10-20 min freeway sprints, which means running 70mph at least. Everyone I personally know who owns a rebel has said it shakes like crazy at that speed and they've wanted to upgrade within 6 months or so. I don't know anyone personally who owns the vulcan s. Does it handle well enough at 70 or so on the freeway? If so, then I can imaging being happy to keep it long term.
To me neither of them have any shakes to them. The Vulcan S does have more power and can hold higher speeds easier though and the stock seating and suspension is better. Making it a longer term choice.
@@RabidHedgehog Thanks for the reply. Probably going with the vulcan for those reasons, but I have been looking at the vstrom 650 recently. Too many video's of people doing cool trips on the adventure bikes.
It is worth mentioning that Vulcan S has a parallel-twin engine instead of a V-twin design, and therefore, it has very different control riding characteristics. When I go to very light throttle, it gets a slight vibration/shudder. Not really lugging motor and it will accelerate fine. The Vulcan S simply doesn’t like “light throttle “. It likes to be wound out and shifted around 5000 rpm. I wanted to shift at 2000 rpm and ride at 2500 to 3000 rpm and Vulcan S engine doesn’t like that (shudder and vibrate). I now shift at 4500 to 5000 rpm and cruise around 5000 rpm. It just takes some getting used to (for those who used to ride a V-twin bike).
Although I am aware of the characteristic as that engine is passed around Kawasaki from sport bike to adv to cruiser to naked, I tended to rev the machine out myself and the engine was more than willing to commit that to speed. For the purpose of this review an comparison we did have two PTwins with one more attuned to being able to commit to low end riding to aid new riders, and one that was to be a more experienced riders machine in the Vulcan S. So that is why the Rebel won this, as a friendlier new rider machine in cost, value for dollar, and overall ease of maintenance and such.
I test rode both. Honda let me keep the Rebel for 2 days, Kawasaki let me keep the Vulcan for a day.
I found the Rebel marginally more fun around town, but the Vulcan was by _far_ the superior machine overall.
I liked the Rebel, but _bought the Vulcan._ Absolutely love it.
This is hilarious, the Vulcan's suspension is better, torque is better, hp is better, instruments are better... but the 500 "has character".... Something is not jiving with this review. Good video, nice production quality, and I love that you did the review while riding. I just wish your conveyed impressions matched your breakdowns of each bike.
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@@Voltomess😂😂😂 definitely! Vulcan all the way!!!
I love this kind of review. I'm going to soon be a first time rider, and I am leaning towards a Vulcan S. Thanks guys
Nice I got the Rebel, met a guy who had the Vulcan S on a group ride, its a sweet looking bike.
Whats it like
@@TheGarthinator what's urs like too?
@@singlecell2498 yeah the rebel 500 is mint. Gets a lot more attention than I thought it would tbh. The other day had 3 guys on big Harleys marveling over it.
@@TheGarthinator having rode both the Rebel 500 and the Vulcan S. I personally prefer the Vulcan S. I’m a bit taller (6’0) and the Vulcan S fits me like a glove. The Rebel was more compact and easy to snap around turns and twisties, so if you’re a shorter rider or looking to whip through tight roads then that’s your best bet. The Vulcan is a bit faster and snappy on the throttle, if you’re looking for something to really put some solid mileage on then it’s your better choice. Both are smaller bikes and by that nature easy to handle and whip through turns and twisty roads so keep that in mind.
in about 1 month honda will release the new honda rebel 500 2020 model with all things people complained about fixed. new led lights on it , suspension fixed , and for begginers a gear indicator, and a way better seat so it will be the perfect bike for me untill i die.enough power to get out of trouble every time. when i see a rebel on the street i smile. that`s happiness for me. can`t wait to buy the new one and customize it in order to be an unique motorcycle! the vulcan s is a nice bike, but i will follow my heart.
I am hoping to try it out when it hits.
I just purchased the 2020, such a beautiful street bike
@@bern9067 icant wait to get mine Next month. Indeed is a bike that you Will never have to sell.
@@sergiuulici3908 nice man! yeah, i love it. I look back every time I park it. Haha
I just spent 2 weeks figuring out which of these 2 bikes to buy, and after riding each one I ended up falling in love with the Vulcan because of its sheer torque that I felt it had over the Rebel, and it's comfort felt better. I also was buying this for an occasional commuter and a weekend trip bike with my girlfriend and the rear seat was way better on the Vulcan! Now if I was only commuting around town, hell yeah the rebel was amazing. So light weight and nimble. But I think the Vulcan will take much more time to grow out of due to its additional features and power. Amazing comparison video though guys, you've earned a sub! :)
Hi mike, i owned a 2015 vulcan s 650 but i gave it up after over a year. I loved the acceleration. It is a crotch rocket. My biggest gripe was I cannot ride it for more than an hour.. the vibration at speeds when i have to maintain over 4k rpm, the bike’s vibration makes my feet, lower leg, hands and fingers numb especially on long freeway continuous ride. How are you with it? I am curious.
@@bennyang8049 so I have only had the bike since Thursday, but my freeway riding has been no longer than 30 minutes at a time. I have put over 200 miles on it so far and haven't noticed vibrating yet!
Try the Vulcan 900 slower, but so much more bike
@@bennyang8049 Hi Benny, sad to hear you sold it, did you take it to the shop to check for a problem...balancing? My Vulcan has vibes at 3200rpm only then zero up to any range on the tacho
Tony Hagoort i rode another rider’s vulcan S during a group ride and a Versys 650 at a demo ride and the vibration is the same as mine. I figured that is just the character of the kawasaki 650 engine
I bought a 2015 Vulcan S (non - ABS) in April of 2018. It was sold new in 2017 and had only 394 miles on it. I hadn't ridden in over 27 years. I rode a 78 Suzuki GS850 back in the early 90's. When the dealer told me about the trade that they had just taken in that was in my price range, I asked what it was and the displacement. He told me it was a 650 Kawasaki Vulcan. I was not impressed over the phone, but I went down and test rode it. The rest is history. I immediately fell in love with how it feels to ride the Vulcan S. It has plenty of power and it's still very light feeling. It's a great looking motorcycle and I'm confident that it will last a long time without issues. It's liquid cooled. I get 48-60 mpg. It's more impressive than I ever imagined possible. I did add mirror extensions to raise the mirrors. I was looking at my shoulders. I haven't ridden a Rebel. It's a nice looking bike too.
Well as stated I love me the Vulcan S as well as it is a bike that punches high above the CC class and is a blast to ride. But for the needs we have it is fun to have the more narrow and light 500CC. However, I will do a stand alone on this bike as it never has seen the light on this channel yet and we've had it now for almost two years and to also explain in greater detail what this bike has to offer. Enjoy and be safe on your Vulcan you have a great motorcycle. RSMF
how much did you pay for it?
Still got it?
I absolutely love the color on that Vulcan!
I have a 2017 Rebel 500, I put a Puig wind screen on and a Mustang seat and a mustang passenger seat I also put Shad 23 side cases. And for my wife’s safety I added a sissy bar with a padded back rest. It also has a rack for additional carry options. Great bike and has all the speed and power I need. 0-60 in under 6 seconds. I’m 68 and 5’6” so this bike fits my age and height. I looked at the Vulcan and felt the tank was to wide and it felt top heavy so I went with the rebel and no regrets.
I like most all of the reviewers but you are at the top of the heap: informative, articulate, fun for the listener and you do it all without swearing. Good job.
Thank you for the support!
Thanks for the comparison. I have a 2015 Vulcan S with ABS and I love it. It handles great, has really good acceleration, and is light for a cruiser. My first motorcycle was a 2006 Honda Rebel Chinese copycat and it was good to learn on but as soon as I got comfortable, I wanted more power. My 2nd motorcycle was a 2012 Honda Shadow Phantom and that one looked amazing and had the more power I was looking for at the time. I had a near accident on the highway when the breaks locked up on me in an emergency and I decided to upgrade to a motorcycle with ABS. The Vulcan S is that bike. It has great breaking with ABS and it also has more power and is lighter than the Honda Shadow. All that for roughly the same price. When people ask me for advice on a 1st bike I can’t decide between the new Honda Rebel with ABS and the Kawasaki Vulcan S with ABS. So thank you for your input. Sounds like the lightness of the Rebel makes it a more interesting ride.
Being lighter on its feet and the mid mount controls do help it out for sure. The Vulcan S is not a bad bike at all by any measure at all. It's just when it comes down to the fun to ride and play in town nature of the 500 and its character it does win.
how is te ground clearance on the kawasaki?
@@robertmassive5335 Really good ground clearance for a cruiser but it isn't an adventure bike.
@Bunnyshooter 223 I think every new car sold in the USA has ABS. It only comes in handy in emergency situations which is when you need it most. If you were an expert race car driver or motorcycle rider then ABS would potentially not be as good at braking as you but I am not an expert and I have my Oh Sh*t moments in cars and motorcycles so I appreciate having ABS and a good set of tires to save my behind. I also tend to ride or drive fairly aggressively at times so the extra safety feature is welcomed by me. Stay safe.
>Honda Rebel Chinese copycat
Nope
Vulcan for me. I don’t want a cruiser for urban driving, I just want one that’s competent around town. I get a cruiser for cruising, Open highways, sweeping roads, etc. I want to take it on an an afternoon adventure, not pick up groceries and tampons.
The rebels ergo is poor for long rides with its hunched forward position, it’s seat quickly becomes uncomfortable , the mid controls start to make the knees ache, and she’s can be a bit gutless at highway speed. She also starts to feel light in the front end at higher speeds, she’s not nearly as comfortable in the freeway as the Vulcan. To me she’s a naked bike in a cruisers clothing. If that’s what you want, fantastic… she does it great, but I bought a cruiser to cruise.
I haven't ridden either bike, but as an experienced rider, I'd go with the Vulcan with ABS. More power, adjustable ergo's, better seat(according to ur review). I've had bikes that "didn't fit" and sold them. No bike will work for everyone's needs. Nice review....😸
Thanks for the support and it's sadly true no perfect machine exists for everyone.
The Rebel beat the 883 because it actually has a better power to weight ratio. Even against the Vulcan S the power to weight ratio is almost identical between the two. Now the Vulcan (and 883) do have more torque, but the difference felt in the seat shouldn't be all that different. And starting with the 2020 model the Rebel display has been updated with a gear indicator and a couple other things, but still no tachometer. But it's better than it was. The Rebel also has a very nice slipper clutch which the Vulcan does not have. Main advantages for the Vulcan in my opinion are better looks, better stock exhaust and better aftermarket exhaust options, and most importantly just better comfort for longer rides. Now if you consider the $1000+ price difference, you can buy the Rebel and upgrade the seat, exhaust, and make some cosmetic changes to suit your own taste and you eliminate all these disadvantages.
I got a 2017 Vulcan S for $4K. Had 120 miles on it, never dropped.
Nice ride it safe!
you like it? trying to decide which one to get
Picked up a 2019 Vulcan S in February 2020, with 1,700 miles, for $4,500.00. What a deal. Just like new.
you like it?
I went into the dealership yesterday to try out the Vulcan. I was sitting on it and the bars were a bit too far forward. So I asked the salesman about Ergofit. Guess what he said. "Yeah, we got Ergofit. But I don't think you need it." "Look here, I have to lean forward 2 inches to make it fit my reach." "Meh. How long you gonna ride. It'll be fine."
What a great salesman, eh? Arguing with the customer about what feels comfortable. I may drive 50 miles north and get an Indian Scout instead.
Would not blame you if that's what they're doing. If you're in Oklahoma go to Indian of OKC for the Scout
Hahahaha stupid salesman
You can ride the vulcan like a slow thumpy cruiser or use the revs to make it perform like a sports bike, the narrow tyres help with tipping into the corners.
Another thing is if you are in the US you can remove the limiter on it that makes it Ninja 650 power again, if anywhere else it is a limiter and a screw in the throttle.
Yay!!! Just bought the rebel 500 and love it so much. I’m so glad to be able to read reviews before I chose a bike. I test ride the Vulcan and just like you said, The rebel felt like more of an extension of me whereas the Vulcan just felt a little ungainly being a new rider.
Enjoy and ride safe!
After 5 months how are you enjoying the rebel 500? Sorry to ask, but do you mind sharing what you paid for it? I spoke with a dealer and they’re offering $5,500+tax and licensing fee for a used rebel500 with 1,500 miles on it.
Does that sound like a good deal?
Tyler Gable hey I’m in ur same position, looking for a rebel 500 and i think yu can find better.. maybe wait for winter to kick in and you’ll see better deals. That’s what I’m doing
Davis Turk does that not seem like a good deal? How much do you anticipate bike price to drop in winter? And with the 2020 release maybe the price will drop too, but i’m not sure how much. That’s the problem
@@tylergable2445 hey there , if you didnt buy the honda rebel yet, you should seriously save 1000$ and buy the new honda rebel 2020 which has fixed all the problems .5.500 is too much for an used motorcycle, new motorcycle a lot of new accesories, and is only 6.100$ here in Spain. in about 1 month i go for the blue version and it will be awesome. take care
I do agree with you on a lot points about the Honda Rebel 500 but It does have an ABS option for 300 dollars more. Personally my choice would be the Kawasaki Vulcan 650 but I wouldn't recommend the Vulcan to a total new rider that just pass their MSF course.
The Vulcan S has been great for me as a first bike
Vulcan s was my first bike and I still have it, spend the extra money because you will get bored pretty quick on the rebel 500.
@@MrSokgunslinger when you say "bored," do you mean you need more power and the Rebel couldn't deliver?
Fleetfoot S more power and more agility but that’s just my opinion.
Years ago I had a rigid framed BSA gold Star that I had to ride back and forth from Shreveport where I worked to Houston where my family lived. After that I picked up a Honda CB5004F. Both these bikes cemented the belief in my brain that 500cc was as capable as MY bike needed to be. After years that have included a Z1, 2 ST1300s, 2 Goldwings, Yammie 750 Virago, BMW K75 and R90/6 I still love the 500cc class bikes. Easy to own, economical to operate and light
Drove both and enjoyed both of em. I prefer the Rebel more cause I find it more comfortable to ride than the Vulcan. Doesn't mean the Vulcan isn't comfortable but I have short and stuby legs.
Great video! I owned a 2014 CB500F which the Rebel 500 shares its engine with and it is a great motor that is usually more than enough for tons of fun. My main gripe was that at speeds around 100 km/h it doesn't get up and go very well for passing. I would wager that the 650 Vulcan would be better for that. That being said, it's perfectly fine to just stay in your lane and enjoy the ride in most cases without passing so not being able to make decisive passes isn't a deal-breaker to everyone. It's nice to see people look past a spec sheet when reviewing a bike.
My current bike is 556 lbs and sometimes I miss the lightweight CB500F; it just takes a bit more concentration to ride the GSX650F in tight spaces and sharp U-turns than the CB500F did which I sometimes miss.
I've only owned two street bikes, both cruisers (Honda Shadow Sabre 1100 and Honda VTX1300R) so my experience is limited. I sold the VTX just over a year ago and am really missing being on two wheels. As I'm getting older (51 now) and am not a big guy anyway (5'6" and 170 lbs.,) I find myself wanting a smaller, lighter bike that I can just have more fun on. I know the Rebel will have no power compared to the VTX. It had crazy power and I loved it. I don't see me riding the interstate very often. I would be riding back roads and small highways mostly. I've been trying to decide between the Vulcan S and the Rebel 500 for a while. I think the fun factor and lower weight makes me want to go with the Rebel. Add to that it's basically made for someone my size. I don't need the power of the VTX anymore. I just want to get on two wheels and have fun. Besides, I used to have an absolute blast riding a 150cc scooter. LOL. I think the 2020 Rebel 500 will suit me fine.
The Rebel make one 1100ccm 86hp, and a DCR Version with no Clutch, Automatic and Manual Gear, Gears Change with 2 Paddle on your Steering not with you feet,
But need a ECU Flash have a
98 Mph Limit same the Rebel 500 have this Limit, for an 1100 ccm and 86 hp Bike is this slow, for the 500 ccm ok
I bought a 2020 Rebel 500 and absolutely love it!!
I don't know the Rebel but I have the Vulcan S. It's a handsome small cruiser. You can have fun with that bike. Just cruising around but you also can have some fun at cornering because that bike is not that heavy. Actually a great bike! Sometimes I just miss that it is somehow special, just like a Harley or an Indian. It's not a bike that makes people watching twice. But you have a nice and reliable cruiser and it's not really expensive!
I'm going for the Vulcan S for my next bike. I had a 650 Vstar classic which was amazing, and I'm currently riding a 96 Magna with 32000 mildz, also a wonderful bike.
Love me a Magna, especially that year range. Surprisingly fast.
Even for a guy who's been riding almost 20 years can have fun on these. It's more fun to ride a small bike hard and fast than a big bike where it's easy. Just more exciting in my opinion. I'm looking for a small bike to do just that on instead of riding my 1600 all the time
I'm getting the Rebel 300, and the Vulcan will be my upgrade bike. I'm short and want as light of a bike as possible as my first bike. Get my confidence up THEN get the heavier bike.
That is not a bad idea. Ride safe when you do!
Hope you're buying used for first bike. Especially if you're getting the rebel 300.
how small?
"I'm completely agree"
Awesome comparison. I am gonna get the Vulcan S. Would like the Yamaha Bolt but hearing and seeing the speed wobble makes me nervous.
Also wanted to say you awesome for replying to these comments. Especially the details on editing since I want the recording hobby along with riding this time. Thanks for the content.
same
The peg position alone makes a huge difference between the two bikes. I own a Vulcan S and the forward positioning pegs does not give you that confidence like it would with a closer peg position like the rebel. Even when the vulcan S is adjusted to the short positioning. Avoiding bumps and such, the pegs being forward you would have to somewhat also pull on the handlebar to prop yourself up a bit vs just using your legs to prop yourself in the rebel. So for new riders, having that sense of control makes all the difference in your confidence level.
Its good all the negatives of the Honda Rebel they have upgraded for the 2020 year, being, upgraded suspension, new seat, cluster with a gear indicator in it, comes with LED front and rear lights too as standard - I definitely will be buying one later in the year when i have time to pick up riding again
I shall be trying to ride and review one as soon as I can.
It's amazing, your review has helped me a lot. ~Always ride safely~
You as well and thanks!
Nice review dude, so to the point.
In Belgium the Rebel500 is not sold well, riders go to Vulcan s instead.
The seat of the Vucan S is so confortable, the Rebel 500 seat is hard from minute one.
I'm agree with you, Rebel500 al the way for the reasons that you mentioned.
And a couple of extra dollars, but still under the price of the Vulcan S, you can get that seat changed too! But I do like both bikes and it does help to have both in the garage. I will hopefully one day have the perspective of my wife who is the main rider of the Vulcan S and what she thinks of both.
@@RabidHedgehog Hello, did you get your wife perspective of both bikes? This summer I may buy the Vulcan S new over the Rebel 500 just because my wife chooses for me :) , I love both bikes and wish to have both of them. I will go with the Vulcan S because I'm afraid that I will grow up the Rebel 500 quickly.
Sat on the Rebel. Seat was uncomfortable within 20 seconds. The seat has real thin padding. Chose S650 and love that bike.
Many thanks for making this as there’s more and more bikers that have been riding for years and although they have been riding for such a long time they now want a bike that’s not a sport bike but one that importantly is not as heavy as as the 700 +lbs of a traditional cruiser also being well behaved in city driving and is capable of keeping up with motorway traffic for the odd week end away. I would like to see you match either of these bikes against the Royal Enfield
I have not even watched the video and I would prefer the Kawasaki vulcan 650 on looks and displacement
It's that "first motorcycle" comment again. Why do these people think every motorcyclist wants the biggest motorcycle out there?
That is not what was being said and by no means. We say first by stating that this bike is a good place to start but it is also a great bike as well for people who have rode for years. I have well over 10 years of two wheeled experience and these two are in my garage. We are just stating that a first time person can approach this bike easily and grow with it.
I get you. Appreciate the reply.
Well I've had a Ninja 300 for 4 months(my first bike) and I already want more power off the line mostly. So I wish I would've bought a bigger bike in the end.
Is a 500 - 650 really even close to the biggest bike out there? Most people I know that ride are riding far bigger and faster bikes. As a first time rider who can only afford one bike, I definitely want one big enough to handle freeway speeds so I can actually go places or why bother. I can just ride a bicycle if I want to just cruise around town and I can't afford to buy another bike anytime soon, so anything less than 500 doesn't even seem realistic.
@@frontdeskstaff9359 have you considered the VN 900? My first bike was a shadow 1100 but I liked the VN 900 just as much. I then moved to a vulcan vaquero 1700 which was great for long trips but to be honest, its not that fun especially around town so now I'm back to looking at a smaller funner bike that gives me gas mileage, that fun factor and makes around town and commuting more enjoyable. not looking at the rebel as I still want a bike that can handle the free way and that IMO means a minimum of a 900 v-twin or a 650 sport style engine.
So, I just got my cycle endorsement and I don't have a bike yet, and I'm looking at both of these bikes, and I am going to test ride them, but as a dude who is 6'5", the Rebel has me concerned with those middle mounted pegs. I've done some tests in my chair here and I've noticed that it's harder to kick my foot up as if I'm upshifting the closer my foot is to my body. It puts a strain in my Achilles' tendon and my instep. The bike I learned on was an HD Street 500 and if I didn't commit to the upshift, I would get a false neutral. One time I even had it in 3rd by mistake (I upshifted twice). So, for my skills test, when it came to the one test where we had to be in 2nd gear, since it wasn't my bike, I just decided to kick the gear up as hard as I could. So, I'm definitely more interested in the Vulcan S for its forward mounted pegs.
A beginner rider doesn't really need a tachometer. They can learn by feeling the torque range through each power band or gear. Dirt bikes don't have tachometers.
Indeed true
I miss having a small bike. Bigger isn’t always better. My Vulcan 1600 is like driving a dump truck sometimes. Besides it’s more fun to push a small bike sometimes 👍🏼
For sure. That is the one thing that I have always kept in the garage is the small bike. With the Dyna there was a Sporty, with the Night Rod there was this Rebel, but many other small bikes as well. Z125, XT250, my wife's S40 which I would oddly swipe every now and again. Now it is a 41 year old CX500C, but it's still that wonderful small displacement machine that you can get to 100% of what it can do and not really or actually be breaking the law completely.
So I have a 2019 rebel 500. And I customized the crap out of it. It’s super simple to work on if you see my bike next to a stock bike you’ll think there 2 different models
And it’s not my first bike. I’ve had several bikes. And this thing is the best riding bike I’ve ever been on. I had rockets and cruisers. Hands down the best bike
I loved that little Rebel and to be honest I need to get another. I sold it and this Vulcan S so my wife could upgrade her ride to her Scout she has now. But another Rebel is on the list to procure.
I heard you both, but i have my insights since i am planning to buy one of the two choices... Firsr i have to confirmed for Asean market if the honda, their assembly line is in China, if it is there... Scratch.. 2nd, i have to see for myself phisically the difference, then on the vulcan s, i have to look for replacement parts for longevity and the availability of parts, in my city honda if it is a celphone, it is a user friendly, many parts available.. But on the big bike category, they are even... There is also if the ground clearance is low, philippines has lots of lots of humps and bad roads.. So i go for much higher ground clearance.. We filipinos love those japanese brand makers... Like i said, your advice is well i think helps a lot.. Thanks...
Lastly, VULCAN S. Is a named taken for vulcano i think, meaning hot, as a fire fighter in my city, Vulcan is our radio call sign. Thats one thing maybe i go for the Vulcan S.... Lol.
Peace and love... Have a safe drive along the way!
Excellent comparison and review, guys! Thanks
Thanks for the support!
For most people watching this video, let me warn you, these guys are not the norm. Most riders get board with their small bike very fast & end up wanting something larger. Selling & buying bikes often comes at a loss. 1. never buy new, buy used. 2. buy as big a bike as you are comfortable with & realize your comfort will increase with just a few days. Don't get me wrong, it will take years to become a good rider but that 900 to 1200cc bike that seems scary at first wont after just a few days. Just look for something cheap at first as you are going to drop it. Your first bike is a learning tool, don't get something expensive & pretty. Save that cool factor after you have ridden for a year.
I tried the Rebel 500 (i'm still too in love with it) for 4hours but i felt hard pain in knee after 2hours. I'm only 5.8... I'll need to try the Vulcan S. since I want something similar but more confortable for long ride.
The Vulcan S would have that forward mount letting your knee take less pressure.
You can't go wrong here both great bikes.
Ergonomics appear very different. Foot pegs look further forward on the Kawasaki & maybe more comfortable for those with longer legs. Honda ergonomics look very similar to the Suzuki S40 I used to have & it was the most painful bike I ever rode. (Try before you buy!) Probably fine for riders under 5'5".
After test riding the Vulcan s, the yamaha bolt, and the rebel 500 all in the same day, I can easily say the Vulcan s is the best, then the rebel. 2 very fun bikes. The yamaha bolt is an absolute snooze fest. I'd been waiting years to ride the bolt, I thought for sure it was the bike for me... but no way, it reminded me of my 2008 suzuki s50 boulevard. Too slow. I could not believe it. I own a Kawasaki z900rs that I'll be trading on a Vulcan s. Love the channel btw 👍
I have attempted to do a review on the Bolt so many times... But I have absolutely nothing to say good about it and hence the reason it has never ended up on my channel. I had the displeasure of riding the Café variety as well and when I as watching the end result I seriously just deleted it because it was about ten minutes of riding and talking about the specs and such and then it became 20 minutes of please oh please get me off this thing I hate my life..... The Vulcan S performance wise is the number 1 for sure. Also if your style is a bit more speed seeking and such it would indeed win. We were trying to go for bang for dollars and to be honest it is very hard to be the little Rebel in that department. Although yes the Vulcan S comes close.
@@RabidHedgehog Yes, I'm not one to complain. I was on a motorcycle after all. But I'm astounded at my experience with the bolt. I longed to ride it and.... nothing. Anyway, I have to correct my statement. The Vulcan s is not the EASY winner. The Rebel is a FANTASTIC bike. Its honestly a toss up. The only way to know is to ride them for yourself!
I'll be buying the new 2020 Rebel 500 ABS + LED etc ... looks AMAZING!
I am wanting to get a ride on the new one to see what improvements were indeed made.
Did you buy it? If so how’s is it man?
They did upgrade on the 2020 Honda Rebel 500 . speedometer display shows the gears that you are on .suspension .headlight and blinkers and the clutch
As a first rider and being sport bike lover I would go for Ninja 400, but also loving the rebel 500. Two different styles and behaviors I would love to get them both but have to choose one.
The engineering that Honda put into that engine is impressive. It's more advanced. Even the frame is made skinny at the crotch.
Hey +Rabid Hedgehog, Thanks for a great review! I just bought the Rebel 500 in all black!! What headset did you and Seagull use? The audio sounds super clear! :)
Seagull is using a Purple Panda Lav mic into Sony AS-100V straight up. I am using a modified Sena 20S mic only to Sony UX560 digital audio recorder. We can hear each other talk through a standard Sena 20S.
Can you share the price you bought it at? Used or new?
Nice review Mate. I think that they are very good for the money and very good around the town. As you suggested I think that the Vulcan S would be the best for the high way. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for the support!
Here is my conclusion, I researched more than half year design Rebel500, performance Vulcan S. I choose Vulcan S for long term riding. 😊
Stupid question (i am not a rider, but interested): how did you two communicate and how was it SO clear?! I am super impressed. Just looks like sucha fun thing to do. Ride around town with your buddy having conversations etc.
Not a stupid question at all. The audio is a bit on the rigged side on this as there were two separate field recorders along with two separate mics. However, there are helmet communication systems from Sena and Cardo that are really good at transmitting conversations, which is how we heard each other so we knew when to talk and how to answer questions.
You both picked the Rebel? That's an absolute laugher. I've ridden both for quite a while and it's not even close. The Rebel 500 couldn't pack the Vulcan S' lunch.
Has nothing to do with speed or power or anything like that it is about affordability, fun, ease of use, and a little bit of soul. The Vulcan S is indeed faster and such I get that but it kind of feels like an appliance where as the Rebel 500 has just a more fun soul. Probably the mid controls or whatever it might be, but there is just something about the Rebel.
Also rode both; vulcan felt like the old man's bike while looking like a racedrivers dream of a cruiser,
Rebel felt like the racedrivers dream of a cruiser while looking like the old man's bike.
Choose the second, ran out every cruiser I've seen as soon as a curve appeared... usually drive in circles arround them while they try manouver their ships... me cheeky lil rebel on my lil Rebel.
@@RabidHedgehog i get what you say about the character and soul of the bike, but do you find the Vulcan soulless, or just less soul?
Thanks for your video; I appreciate the confusion. I don't think the age of this video would change my question and I'm shopping between these two right now. One of you mentioned that the Rebel was "easier to insure" than the Vulcan. Now, had he said "cheaper", I would have understood that, so I was hoping you might clarify what "easier" means?
While I'm at it, I am not a completely new rider, but one who hasn't in a very long time and I thought I might choose a Rebel because of it's size and weight (color choices are better too). I'm 5, 11 & 150#, but also a gym rat, so bike weight isn't an issue, but size is. The Rebel 900 is too big for me and would be wasted. Whatever model I get, I don't want to replace it - ever. I'm thinking I might be more satisfied with the Vulcan in my case, even though just crossing town would be what I would mainly do with it. I don't want to get a Rebel and then think I should have gotten the larger engine on the Vulcan.
In my town (Lakeland) we use the interstate (I-4) frequently, but if only 2 or 3 exits. Then there's the occasional trip to Orlando on one side, Tampa on the other by about 45 minutes, once or twice a year. Okay, maybe bike week in Daytona too. I must be comfortable going 80, so I won't get run over. But other than that, I'm not going canyon riding or racing. I have no "need for speed", other than what is necessary to keep up with traffic without taxing the engine. I'm not sure if a Rebel and a featherweight rider might get blown off the road.
I'm a very fit 64 and I want a bike to keep, not to trade later. As a for instance, my car is 6 years old, paid for, looks new (I'm an auto detailer) and I have no intention of replacing it; that was my intent when I bought it too. I don't want perpetual car payments or motorcycle payments either. For this type of purchase, I make an informed decision, love what I buy and keep it forever. I wanted the Rebel first, then I think I decided on the Vulcan, but then the Rebel keeps popping up again. I am enjoying my frustration and indecision, but all good things must come to an end. I'll let you know what that end, ends up being.
which bike did you end up choosing? I bought the Kawasaki vulcan s three weeks ago and I am very happy!!!
Excellent for knowing your own name, I see this video will be a very optimistic one
first...yamaha volt 950 maked me fall in love with moto...and i knew i could not get the bike..and i was interested in rebel 500...but now i am with vulcan 650s! and i am asian..sorry for bad english..haha
great video! We here at Vikingbags really love your content!
If you do you could always send some things our way to test.
Excellent video guys. As a soon to be returning rider, this is what I needed as I am considering one or the other.
Thank you for the support!
Damn all these commenters are salty af because you guys liked the Rebel.
Yeah, you get used to it over time. It's like cool glad you like the Vulcan but why the rest of the words? lol But seriously I do not mind the opinions of others and as I tried to say to some it is really about the overall picture to a newer rider, not speed and power.
Naaaaaw. Vulcan S is no good, because Yamaha Raider S.
hahaha
@@RabidHedgehog whaaaa vulcan's front looks like gladius which looks most of people hates, so it's basically a naked bike with lower back...
İn my opinion comparing Kawasaki Eliminator 500 AND Rebel 500 makes more sense to me at least. Great job overall)
Even though every review of the Rebel 500 that the rider stated his height, he was over 6 feet, I bought one anyway, because I can flat foot it at 5'6".
You should make a Rebel vs the HD 883 drag race video!!
We should! Just need someone that has another 883N since my buddy sold his.
I understand. I've been riding for 27 years and I'm drooling over that Rebel! It looks so great!
Low-end torque and handling is ALL I care about in a bike.
Honda needs to call it a 470, or increase the engine to what it's called. Suspension quality on both is very budget. Otherwise, either would run 30 times around the earth without breaking down probably.
Bulletproof is indeed a good thing.
They don't care what the USA market wants. We are nothing to Honda. Nevertheless, they had to stick to a 47 hp limit for other markets and making a 471cc engine was the way to do that. Ever since the EX500/Ninja 500R/Vulcan 500 went away, there's not been a true 500cc twin on the market that has performed the same way, with similar power, in modern technology. It's a hole in the market unfilled. Aprilia had an SXV550 twin for a time, but the engine was a disaster of breakdowns.
The rebel should've had a simple no nonsense twin round analogue displays. Practicality over aesthetics.
Do a comparison between the Honda rebel 500 and the Harley Davidson Street 500.
Need to find a Street 500 that I'll be allowed to take out with it
I have owned a Vulcan S, it is a lot faster than people think. Has a Ninja motor in it, goes like stink for a 650cc. Only reason I sold it, too low in the seat. Great all around bike.
Thank you for this video, I'm just deciding between these two bikes and I prefer Honda Rebel 500 (2020).
They are a great motorcycle for sure. Both have their pros and such but I need to try the 2020 to get the updated list.
@@RabidHedgehog So, men, I finally own this bike (2020 edition with ABS): great, nimble and funny bike with only one problem - replacing battery takes really long time. It's unbelievably difficult! :oD But I like it, at all!
I'm definitely a fan of the Vulcan, I dont really like the styling of the Rebel. The tank just looks like it sits too high if you know what I mean...
Wish I bought the Vulcan
I sat on the 2020 rebel 500 at IMS and it looks like they fixed 90% of the issues people have with it lol.
Which is what I like about Honda, they listened! I am hoping to ride the updated one soon.
@@RabidHedgehog yeah I kinda wanna test ride one now. I just rode the harley street rod and I can believe that after 3 years of people complain about things that were unbearable on that bike that they still aren't fixing them. Good on Honda for actually fixing that stuff.
Nice video, though at times I did get confused about a) who was talking, and b) which bike they were referring to. But otherwise, great review. Think I'm sold on the Vulcan
It is not a bad platform. Overall the only reason the Rebel won this was due to affordability and versatility. The Vulcan S though is much quicker yes, but a bit more expensive in both MSRP and insurance.
I’d rather that modern cruisers have a Tacho and a gear counter stock with the ability to remove if you really didn’t want it. - love, modern Honda Shadow rider.
Great comparison video! I've been dealing on both these bikes and seriously change my mind every hour. Option 1 is a 2018 rebel 500 with 2300kms $5500
Option 2 is a 2016 vulcan s with 4500kms $5000.
This in Canadian dollars. I'm leaning towards the rebel for fun /reliably and always had a thing for the bobber look, being 200lbs and 6' tall would I be too cramped up on the rebel? It's a long drive either direction for either bike so dont want to waste a trip. If u think I'll fit just fine on the rebel I'll take your advise! Dont mind the leaned forward bobber ergos anyway
You should go to a Kawasaki/Honda dealer near you and try both out. Then based on what you experienced, make a choice.
Man, those are very good prices. Either of them are good buys
Good video with good info but guys plz, dont ride so close to the centre line, especially if oncoming traffic. If the oncoming vehicle slides out there is zero space and you will get hit.
I know it looks cool staggered riding but it's not worth it. If needed have more space.
I dont like the 500's display. That square LED on with a huge round bezel just looks cheap. I get that they wanted to look retro but from the cockpit it looks bad.
Pls do a comparison between the Royal Enfield GT 650 and the rebel 500.
If that shall ever present itself. We currently do not have a Royal Enfield dealer at this time. We had one for like three months and they decided to just pull the line.
Great video on two good general purpose motorcycles, Honda Rebel 500 and Kawasaki Vulcan S 650. Route 33 and South Division St. in Guthrie, OK, I figured out your route with the help of Google Maps. Guthrie is a real nice looking town, never been there, but I enjoyed your quick "tour". Cheers from Vancouver, BC.
I had shadows and kawis before ! Vulcan is deff has smoother ride
Service/sizing at dealer is offered maybe but should he offered for aby bike. I'm sure the 650 cost more but personally would choose the Honda
Have fun on your chic bike.
I'm interested in how you do your audio recording. Would you mind to share how you setup your recording?
I use a purple panda mic in each helmet. Each of us is also using a separate field recorder. Either a TASCAM DR-05 or Sony UX560. We then use the Cardo PackTalk, (or in this case Sena 20S), to talk back and forth to hear each other. So this allows a cleaner audio.
The Rebel 500 you will most likely be looking to upgrade soon. The Vulcan S you will find you don't even need to upgrade. The Vulcan S pisses all over other bikes in that range.
I would not say that. Depends on why you are riding. Just getting out an enjoying the views you will not care about power or speed. Blazing into corners and wanting the performance yes.
Thanks for the comparison. JUST BRILLIANT.
Thanks for the support!
Honda just makes more comfortable/refined riding bikes. Kawasaki have always leaned toward performance. I have a Kawasaki C14 and a Honda VFR800. It is funny how the Honda has half the displacement, lighter, less wind protection and not as much touring weight capacity. But the VFR800 by far is a more fun/comfortable touring bike than the Kawasaki C14 overall. Does not mean I do not like both bikes. But it would seem that this video is an example of the difference in focus between how Honda and Kawasaki approaches their designs.
Thanks for your insight in that realm of bikes!
So here's the thing. I've not seen any used rebel 500's for cheap. I've not even seen 250's in decent condition for cheap. I can only afford one bike and one to keep. I can't afford the extra cost to upgrade a year later. So which one do I get between the two? The rebel seems easier to handle around town but I live in Southern California. If I bother to ride, I'll be doing regular 10-20 min freeway sprints, which means running 70mph at least. Everyone I personally know who owns a rebel has said it shakes like crazy at that speed and they've wanted to upgrade within 6 months or so. I don't know anyone personally who owns the vulcan s. Does it handle well enough at 70 or so on the freeway? If so, then I can imaging being happy to keep it long term.
To me neither of them have any shakes to them. The Vulcan S does have more power and can hold higher speeds easier though and the stock seating and suspension is better. Making it a longer term choice.
@@RabidHedgehog Thanks for the reply. Probably going with the vulcan for those reasons, but I have been looking at the vstrom 650 recently. Too many video's of people doing cool trips on the adventure bikes.
I did the Vstrom 650 and I love that machine.... Not so much the bigger 1K but the 650 is wonderful.
Thank u so much - cause I'm gonna get a bike and it is gonna be 1 of them...
Great video and I just subscribe cause of it!!!
Vulcan🔥
Nothing compares to the fuel savings with the rebel 500
It is worth mentioning that Vulcan S has a parallel-twin engine instead of a V-twin design, and therefore, it has very different control riding characteristics. When I go to very light throttle, it gets a slight vibration/shudder. Not really lugging motor and it will accelerate fine. The Vulcan S simply doesn’t like “light throttle “. It likes to be wound out and shifted around 5000 rpm. I wanted to shift at 2000 rpm and ride at 2500 to 3000 rpm and Vulcan S engine doesn’t like that (shudder and vibrate). I now shift at 4500 to 5000 rpm and cruise around 5000 rpm. It just takes some getting used to (for those who used to ride a V-twin bike).
Although I am aware of the characteristic as that engine is passed around Kawasaki from sport bike to adv to cruiser to naked, I tended to rev the machine out myself and the engine was more than willing to commit that to speed. For the purpose of this review an comparison we did have two PTwins with one more attuned to being able to commit to low end riding to aid new riders, and one that was to be a more experienced riders machine in the Vulcan S. So that is why the Rebel won this, as a friendlier new rider machine in cost, value for dollar, and overall ease of maintenance and such.
What year is your Vulcan S? My Rebel frustrates me because I would I’ve a tach or gear indicator. And I love the color of the Vulcan S.
It is a 2016 Vulcan S Se ABS
There is no replacement for displacement
Why is the gas tank on the Vulcan S so much wider compared to the Rebel when the fuel capacity is only about a 1/2 gallon more?
Height. The Rebel's tank is much taller than the Vulcan S. So it helps make up for the lack of width.
Have you ridden the 500x? If you have, would you rather commute from Moore to Edmond on a Rebel or a 500x? Thanks
I need to ride a 500X... I really want to do Honda engine family reviews.
Rabid Hedgehog That is a great idea. I’ll keep an eye out to see if you review the X. Thanks for your response.
Didn't really get a good comp between rebel and 650
In the beginning of the video, were you guys rolling through Mulhaul or Guthrie? Later on, I had noticed that it was main street of Guthrie.
South sides of Logan County actually travelling up to Guthrie on Broadway to go through on Noble then Division.