An excellent video. There isn't much on the Modern Defense on RUclips, but Ginger GM said the best variation for black is Tiger's Modern, which seems really complicated to me. Whenever I've played the Modern I always transpose into the Gurgenidze System, with generally good results.
Thanks Dennis! And ya there's not much Modern Defense stuff on RUclips, but I'd like to try and make some more videos on it... maybe really focus in on Modern Defense/King's Indian Defense content this year. And ya I'm also a fan of the Gurgenidze System type ideas - I'll have to make a video on this soon.
I like going for g6, bg7 and d6. Then go for either the c5 or the e5 break. In the main line modern (3. nc3) theres d5 straight away which is the Lizard defense. Very interesting system :)
Love this approach, I start with those 3 moves as well although I usually go into a Hippopotamus Defense from there. But, ya I mean those c5/e5 breaks are great.
Thanks for the video. I’m a very poor blitz player but modern defensive has seen my blitz rating go up 100. Normally I’m behind on time but with the modern, I regularly have a 30 second time advantage after 3 moves because it’s so unexpected.
@@TheChessGiant I appreciate that you analyzed the variations. So many videos I've found on the modern focus on just the main pirc line or the tiger modern. Lot to learn from this one
13:39 Nc3 line 8:16 Nf3 line with bishop on g7 11:03 Nf3 line with black pushing flank pawn 12:07 Nf3 line with black pushing flank pawn but white advances
You already know this kind of opening is right up my alley! I love Modern Defense ideas when playing the KID or Pirc if my Knight on f6 is ever traded off.
Yessir Tyler! It's cool how many different chess opening systems (Pirc Defense, Hippo Defense, King's Indian Defense, Modern Defense, Pterodactyl Defense, etc) mix and overlap with so many similar ideas!
11:26 Na3 is a far more testing move, and I feel like it shouldn't go unmentioned. Qc7 is too slow and so you're stuck with an awkward Queen. It's the main move among masters, and it seems to make creating plans for black awkward on the long run. EDIT: fixed a typo.
You can sack the exchange or the d pawn to get mkre development and also a6 b5 in the game. (+0.7) it is a sharp line. Also... if you want to avoid all the complications with Na3, play after Na3 ...d6! And Nb5 isnt so scary (...Nc6 also deserve some studies!)😊
Thanks! How do you feel about the Modern Defense? Do you usually play this to get into the Hippopotamus Defense? Or do you start out with an Owen's Defense/French Defense/Pirc Defense? (I'm a nerd lol)
Yep! Ya both great chess opening options with the Pirc Defense/King's Indian Defense. Those mix in (and overlap) a lot of similar ideas with the Modern Defnese.
Lol thanks haha glad you enjoyed the video and ya I had that for awhile but THIS comment made me think about switching it - and I did. Wishing you a great finish to your week!
Hi Solomon. Just had to tell ya. I finally found a chess club on lichess where you play classical time controls (normally 60/30) in swiss format once a week. I'm going into this one a big underdog at low 1600's in under 1800 tournament. Following in your foot steps (hoof prints?) Gonna be the Hippo all the way! Wheeze honk!!!
This makes sense! I would 100% agree that the Norwegian Defense is messy. Is messy objectively wrong? No. But it is definetely not for everyone. And yes I would love to cover c6 ideas at some point!!
Love it! Same here - there's rare instances when I don't, but it's usually if the opponent plays bad theory and gives us some sort of advantage or way to equalize in just the first few moves.
100%! Yep learning one thing can help the other. You start to see similarities and start to transfer ideas over from other lines/variations/systems. No ideas are a waste!
Cool. I was looking for this recently to get a closed position against 1e4 cuz I grew tired of the exchange french and I'm not really into caro kann. I will probably still loose in any opening that isn't a black lion tho
Ya give it a shot and let me know how it goes! The nice thing about the Modern Defense is that it's so rare.... which can give you a big advantage in prep if you stick it out long enough and master the concepts and ideas of whatever line/variation you go into. Whereas, with something like the Caro-Kann, you can prep and grow in your knowledge, but the opponent will always be somewhat prepared for it.
YESSSSSS!!!!!!!! THANK YOU SOLOMON! Edit: I also was suprised that against the two knights you didnt recommend the hippo but with a6 and after a4 b6... 😂 Also, bring more content on the Standard Modern! If you make a course, i will buy it!😅😂
So many interesting variations! And this video doesn't even cover the transpositions like pirc, KID, sicilian dragon, leningrad Dutch, hippo, closed sicilian or grunfeld defence (Caro-kan or the gurgenidze system was mentioned in this vid). Extremely complex opening!
I don't play this defense, but I admit it is solid as F. What I want to suggest for a future video is the *Indian Game: Basque Opening* . I think there isn't enough material nor respect for this opening. Big hug, me mate!
Ya the Modern Defense is strong strong. And ya I hear you. Sometimes when I see an opening, even if I don't play it, I gotta go "oof okay that's solid." And interresting! I don't even know if I've heard of this. Looking it up now!
Thanks John! And ya the Modern Defense is TOUGH. I usually play 2. h4 as white and look to play h5 quickly. Of course, black can play something like 2. ...d5 and they're fine - but most don't, at least who I have played against.
Hey, thanks for the great ideas. One question I have is concerning the structure where black fianchettos and goes for d5. You've recommended this line in the advanced Caro and now the modern, but you only look at lines where white plays defensively on the queen side. After 1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. f4 d5 4. e5 Bf5 5. Nf3 e6 What happens if white does not seek to trade of the bishops and just calmly develops, castles, and goes for c4 ? For example 6. Be3 h5 7. Be2 Nh6 8. h3 Nd7 9. O-O O-O 10. Nbd2 Rc8 11. Rc1 c5 12. c4 and it looks like white is ahead. How would you handle this way of handling the position by white?
Bruh if you played ...d5 without the help of c6.... you're not gonna play c6 😂 That's killing your own position! You want to accelerate Nh6 f6 and break the center open with c5 even if it is a pawn sacrifice or not!
For instance: 1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. f4!? d5 4. e5 Nh6 5. Nf3 f6!? (5...0-0 6. Be3 f6 7. c4 c5! -/+) 6. c4 Bg4!? - an interesting sacrifice; 7. cxd5 Nf5! 8. Nc3 c6! should be a pleasant position for Black. All the compensation in the world!😊
@lorenzozorrer It's kinda hard to follow you. The c6 was in reference to the Caro-Kann. You say black wouldn't play c6 if he already played d5, and then you give a line where black does exactly that 🤔 In the line you gave, after 1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. f4 d5 4. e5 Nh6 5. Nf3 f6 6. c4 Bg4 7. cxd5 Nf5 8. Nc3 c6 Stockfish gives 9. Bd3 with +0.61, so I'm not sure about black having "all the compensation in the world."
@@RayT70 yeah but, in this case, he plays c6 not to solidify d5 as in the gurgenidze but he does that to get a flank pawn undermining the center. That's a hypermodern concept! Completely different reason to play c6...
@@RayT70If you truly had studied and played the modern you would've known that at 60+ depth the modern (1...e4 g6 for example) is +0.6... So it is quite normal to be in the 0.6 0.7 or 0.8 engine evaluation. In nutshell, if you want stockfish to be +0.2 or equal play 1. e4 e5, 2. d4 d5 and 3. c4 c5. Bruh.
An excellent video. There isn't much on the Modern Defense on RUclips, but Ginger GM said the best variation for black is Tiger's Modern, which seems really complicated to me. Whenever I've played the Modern I always transpose into the Gurgenidze System, with generally good results.
Thanks Dennis! And ya there's not much Modern Defense stuff on RUclips, but I'd like to try and make some more videos on it... maybe really focus in on Modern Defense/King's Indian Defense content this year. And ya I'm also a fan of the Gurgenidze System type ideas - I'll have to make a video on this soon.
Are you kidding!!! Man!! Soooo glad you made this! I've played it before for Pirc and Pterodactyl flexibility. Love this Solomon, thank you!
Ayy thanks my guy! Ya the Modern Defense is fantastic for the reasons you just mentioned!
I like going for g6, bg7 and d6. Then go for either the c5 or the e5 break. In the main line modern (3. nc3) theres d5 straight away which is the Lizard defense. Very interesting system :)
Love this approach, I start with those 3 moves as well although I usually go into a Hippopotamus Defense from there. But, ya I mean those c5/e5 breaks are great.
Thanks for the video. I’m a very poor blitz player but modern defensive has seen my blitz rating go up 100. Normally I’m behind on time but with the modern, I regularly have a 30 second time advantage after 3 moves because it’s so unexpected.
Nice that's awesome! Ya it is rare AND understudied so e4 players are often confused on what the heck to do with it.
Love throwing a c5 in the modern Pterodactyl, thanks for covering the Modern, not much out there on YT
Same, I like when they advance the pawn into a old benoni setup a lot.
Heard!
Love it Rob, thanks for letting me know! The Pterodactyl is awesome.
My favourite opening and now my favourite video!
Ayyy nice choice with the Modern Defense and I am glad to hear you enjoyed the video!
Would love to see more on that Norwegian (I've e also seen it called Norwegian Rat). Magnus played it from time to time. Thanks for the video Solomon!
Yessir! Ya the Norwegian/Norwegian Rat stuff is great - I definitely plan to release more content on this.
This is exactly the kind of video I wanted on the modern defense. So many fun variations! Thanks for making this
Glad to hear it my friend. Ya the Modern Defense is fun, rare, flexibile, sound, dangerous, etc. Hard to ask for much more in a chess opening system!
@@TheChessGiant I appreciate that you analyzed the variations. So many videos I've found on the modern focus on just the main pirc line or the tiger modern. Lot to learn from this one
You got it brotha. Thanks a ton and more Modern Defense content on the way! (Next one probably being what to do with the 3 Pawns Attack)
Great video mate. I love to play the modern and this was so instructional with the variations
13:39 Nc3 line
8:16 Nf3 line with bishop on g7
11:03 Nf3 line with black pushing flank pawn
12:07 Nf3 line with black pushing flank pawn but white advances
You already know this kind of opening is right up my alley! I love Modern Defense ideas when playing the KID or Pirc if my Knight on f6 is ever traded off.
Yessir Tyler! It's cool how many different chess opening systems (Pirc Defense, Hippo Defense, King's Indian Defense, Modern Defense, Pterodactyl Defense, etc) mix and overlap with so many similar ideas!
I would love to see a video on the Norwegian defense especially what happens after 4. g4
Yessir! I plan to release some more content on the Norwegian Defense!
11:26 Na3 is a far more testing move, and I feel like it shouldn't go unmentioned. Qc7 is too slow and so you're stuck with an awkward Queen. It's the main move among masters, and it seems to make creating plans for black awkward on the long run.
EDIT: fixed a typo.
You can sack the exchange or the d pawn to get mkre development and also a6 b5 in the game. (+0.7) it is a sharp line. Also... if you want to avoid all the complications with Na3, play after Na3 ...d6! And Nb5 isnt so scary
(...Nc6 also deserve some studies!)😊
Thanks for bringing this up! I will have to take a look at this Na6 move! (I'm assuming you meant Na6 instead of Qa5+ and picking up that pawn?)
@@TheChessGiantnuh uh: Qa5+ c3 Qxc5 Na3 Nf6!? (...d6!) (...Nc6!? is quite sharp) Nb5! b6 and the game goes
@@TheChessGiant No I'm talking about Na3 (the white move) after Qxc5.
@@mnm1273thats the one i just mentioned. What are you on about?
I love too see modern uploads! We need more content on the modern haha
Yessir! More on the way, just dropped a Pterodactyl Defense video now actually!
Great video. Yes. Do more content on the Norwegian drence/ gambit.
Thank you for this Solomon! It would be awesome to see you do a rating climb using these openings you teach!
You got it! Glad you liked it and ya that's a great idea!
Modern looks interesting, always good to have an alternative.
Yep! Never hurts to have some more ideas available when in the mood + many opening ideas can transfer to other systems as well.
Could you make a series on the Gurgenidze Defense? I have never seen a video on it for black.
Thanks for putting this on my radar - I'd love to!
Loving this content! Thanks Solomon!
Thanks! How do you feel about the Modern Defense? Do you usually play this to get into the Hippopotamus Defense? Or do you start out with an Owen's Defense/French Defense/Pirc Defense? (I'm a nerd lol)
Usually into the hippo
Love this answer, not gonna lie.
I like playing Pirc / Kia but it is good to know modern def. It is cool you can play the same system as white
Yep! Ya both great chess opening options with the Pirc Defense/King's Indian Defense. Those mix in (and overlap) a lot of similar ideas with the Modern Defnese.
This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank You very much!
You got it my guy! Glad you liked it - let me know if there's any specific Modern Defense content you'd want to see going forward!
Cheers, Mate! My favorite Modern variation is Norwegian Rat defense!
Love it!! I haven't filmed this one yet but I am excited to. Such an unknown but fascinating option for the black side.
Another great vidéo. Thanks!
Thanks! And glad you liked it!
Fantastic content. Thanks!
Thanks Walter! Guys like you and me will stick with our Hippo but never hurts to learn new ideas that (often) can translate.
not sure about the Imperial Purple background but I found this useful
Lol thanks haha glad you enjoyed the video and ya I had that for awhile but THIS comment made me think about switching it - and I did. Wishing you a great finish to your week!
Hi Solomon. Just had to tell ya. I finally found a chess club on lichess where you play classical time controls (normally 60/30) in swiss format once a week. I'm going into this one a big underdog at low 1600's in under 1800 tournament. Following in your foot steps (hoof prints?) Gonna be the Hippo all the way! Wheeze honk!!!
Not that many if anyone cares , but started the tourny the lowest rated as expected. Round one goes to The Hippo!!!
LETS GET IT! Keep me updated with how the tournament is going!
Let's go, the Hippo is at the bottom of the back per usual, but is swimming up to top of the swamp quick!
This is a great video. Bring on the series please Chess Giant
A series is being made James!! If you look up the Modern Defense Playlist, you will see 5 videos on there so far.
I find the Norwegian defence kind of messy. Especially with the 3 pawn islands. Can you please make a video covering the 3...c6 line?
This makes sense! I would 100% agree that the Norwegian Defense is messy. Is messy objectively wrong? No. But it is definetely not for everyone. And yes I would love to cover c6 ideas at some point!!
1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 { B06 Modern Defense } 3. Nf3 e6 4. Nc3 Ne7 5. h4 O-O 6. h5 f5 7. hxg6 Nxg6 8. exf5 exf5 9. Bc4+ d5 10. Bxd5+ Kh8 11. Rxh7+ Kxh7 12. Ng5+ Kh6 13. Nf7+ Kh7 14. Qh5+ Bh6 15. Qxh6+ Kg8 16. Qxg6# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0
1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 { B06 Modern Defense } 3. c4 b6 4. h4 Bb7 5. Nc3 e6 6. h5 Ne7 7. h6 Bf8 8. Bg5 f5 9. exf5 exf5 10. Qd2 d5 11. O-O-O Qd7 12. Re1 Nc6 13. cxd5 Nb4 14. Nf3 O-O-O 15. Ne5 Qe8 16. Bb5 c6 17. dxc6 Bxc6 18. Nxc6 Nbxc6 19. d5 Qf7 20. Ba6+ Kc7 21. Nb5+ Kb8 22. Qf4+ Ka8 23. Qc7 1-0
I like the modern along with the KID and pirc.
GREAT chess opening combo with these 3 brother!
I always play the modern and almost always go to the hippo!
I was thinking the same thing. But there are probably some interesting things to learn about the Modern that may make the hippo game even better.
Totally agree with that logic Walter
Love it! Same here - there's rare instances when I don't, but it's usually if the opponent plays bad theory and gives us some sort of advantage or way to equalize in just the first few moves.
100%! Yep learning one thing can help the other. You start to see similarities and start to transfer ideas over from other lines/variations/systems. No ideas are a waste!
I'll second this.
Great video
Cool. I was looking for this recently to get a closed position against 1e4 cuz I grew tired of the exchange french and I'm not really into caro kann. I will probably still loose in any opening that isn't a black lion tho
Ya give it a shot and let me know how it goes! The nice thing about the Modern Defense is that it's so rare.... which can give you a big advantage in prep if you stick it out long enough and master the concepts and ideas of whatever line/variation you go into. Whereas, with something like the Caro-Kann, you can prep and grow in your knowledge, but the opponent will always be somewhat prepared for it.
YESSSSSS!!!!!!!! THANK YOU SOLOMON!
Edit: I also was suprised that against the two knights you didnt recommend the hippo but with a6 and after a4 b6... 😂
Also, bring more content on the Standard Modern! If you make a course, i will buy it!😅😂
YOU GOT IT LORENZO! You came to mind when I was making this video, glad you liked it - and more Modern Defense RUclips content on the way!
@@TheChessGiant less go Solomon! Have a nice week!
Same to you Lorenzo 🙏🏼🤝
So many interesting variations! And this video doesn't even cover the transpositions like pirc, KID, sicilian dragon, leningrad Dutch, hippo, closed sicilian or grunfeld defence (Caro-kan or the gurgenidze system was mentioned in this vid). Extremely complex opening!
No kidding on it being complex! So many different things that can happen depending on what black wants to do following the 1. ...g6 Modern Defense
MY favorite black move to play right now as 1400-1450 player. I just hate symmetric game with the d4d5 sort of play
Yes! It sounds like we have very similar styles. I can't stand the symmetrical stuff.
I don't play this defense, but I admit it is solid as F. What I want to suggest for a future video is the *Indian Game: Basque Opening* . I think there isn't enough material nor respect for this opening. Big hug, me mate!
Ya the Modern Defense is strong strong. And ya I hear you. Sometimes when I see an opening, even if I don't play it, I gotta go "oof okay that's solid." And interresting! I don't even know if I've heard of this. Looking it up now!
you should try the g6 then Bg7 next d6 then a6 b5 last Nd7 Bb7 Rc8 and then c5
next post to be redy
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Thanks a lot nice
You got it brotha!
Also, I would love that series you mentioned... just saying lol
Hey Jarrod - sounds good! This gives me more motivation to make it 🙏🏽
So flexible defence
Very!!!
Enjoyed your video. I hate playing against the modren defense. 😅
Thanks John! And ya the Modern Defense is TOUGH. I usually play 2. h4 as white and look to play h5 quickly. Of course, black can play something like 2. ...d5 and they're fine - but most don't, at least who I have played against.
Hey, thanks for the great ideas. One question I have is concerning the structure where black fianchettos and goes for d5. You've recommended this line in the advanced Caro and now the modern, but you only look at lines where white plays defensively on the queen side. After
1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. f4 d5 4. e5 Bf5 5. Nf3 e6
What happens if white does not seek to trade of the bishops and just calmly develops, castles, and goes for c4 ? For example
6. Be3 h5 7. Be2 Nh6 8. h3 Nd7 9. O-O O-O 10. Nbd2 Rc8 11. Rc1 c5 12. c4
and it looks like white is ahead. How would you handle this way of handling the position by white?
Bruh if you played ...d5 without the help of c6.... you're not gonna play c6 😂 That's killing your own position! You want to accelerate Nh6 f6 and break the center open with c5 even if it is a pawn sacrifice or not!
For instance:
1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. f4!? d5 4. e5 Nh6 5. Nf3 f6!? (5...0-0 6. Be3 f6 7. c4 c5! -/+) 6. c4 Bg4!? - an interesting sacrifice; 7. cxd5 Nf5! 8. Nc3 c6! should be a pleasant position for Black. All the compensation in the world!😊
@lorenzozorrer
It's kinda hard to follow you. The c6 was in reference to the Caro-Kann. You say black wouldn't play c6 if he already played d5, and then you give a line where black does exactly that 🤔
In the line you gave, after
1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. f4 d5 4. e5 Nh6 5. Nf3 f6 6. c4 Bg4 7. cxd5 Nf5 8. Nc3 c6
Stockfish gives 9. Bd3 with +0.61, so I'm not sure about black having "all the compensation in the world."
@@RayT70 yeah but, in this case, he plays c6 not to solidify d5 as in the gurgenidze but he does that to get a flank pawn undermining the center. That's a hypermodern concept! Completely different reason to play c6...
@@RayT70If you truly had studied and played the modern you would've known that at 60+ depth the modern (1...e4 g6 for example) is +0.6... So it is quite normal to be in the 0.6 0.7 or 0.8 engine evaluation. In nutshell, if you want stockfish to be +0.2 or equal play 1. e4 e5, 2. d4 d5 and 3. c4 c5. Bruh.
Sir make videos on endgame basis,i mean a playlist
A playlist for the Modern Defense has been made, we are at 9 videos on there so far!
@@TheChessGiant ok sir
What to Play against the Geller System by white (c3) ?
There's a lot of solid options there, going into a Hippo or Pirc or c6/d5 kind of thing etc. Do you have a preference against the Geller System?
I play most of them but it's good you clarify some ideas. Still, Norwegian Defence is something to be trained, way too unintuitive for me.
Played the first knight variation but they came out with the queen side knight and didn't push the pawn, had to resign immediately, thanks 🙄
I have a relative who lived in the 1700s who was named Salomon
Well there you go
Great video mate. I love to play the modern and this was so instructional with the variations