Hey guys, thanks for the comments. Kev - the builder of this set up - currently has the block apart that this will go on. When it all starts coming together, I'll update with another video. The engine in this video was a clunker, used for building the intake system. When Kev pulled it apart just to have a look, there were at least two stuck valves, yet it still ran this strong. It's going to be interesting to see how well this runs on a built motor in 2014. It should hopefully be ready for the VHRA Pendine Sands event in the summer.
I watched both videos several times. This set up LOOKS much better!!! How about a close up video of the improved set up and tell if there was any actual improvement or just a cleaner setup. Thanks for posting these!!!!!
The carbs are mounted before then turbo intake on what was known as a "log ram manifold" back in the day. The other method with carbs is a blow through, where the carb sits in the stock location, inside a box so the fuel bowl is pressurized and won't blow the fuel out the vent.
Sorry to keep you all with updates and replies on this. Kev - the builder - is currently building his new engine for this induction set-up to go on. The block is prepped, the cam back from the grinders, and it is all going together as I type this. I imagine that it will only be another few weeks before we get a fire-up on the test stand. The intention is that it will racing at Pendine in June 2014 with the VHRA here in England.
Awesome little hot rod motor, there is actually a engine shop out here in Corona California that specializes in turbo charging straight 6s to produce v8 power, it's called 6 into 8👍
Hey, I got a dumb question here that I've always wondered about. In a setup like this where the turbo is not plumbed thru the carb(s), what prevents the air charge from the turbo from being blown up, out of the carbs, especially, when they slam shut and there's no engine vacuum. Thanks.
I just looked it up. The turbo intake is between the carb and the engines intake. The air-fuel mixture is sucked through the turbo and forced into the engine. So the carb only ever gets vacuum.
Why is it so hard to plumb a turbo the correct way. I’m surprised someone has not jumped on here and said something about “VW’s” and “high end racers” mounting the carburetors in front of the turbo. When the turbo lags, the fuel condenses and lines the intake walls until the throttle is opened again then it’s a rich mixture. Also, the turbo won’t last long being washed with fuel all the time. Lastly, could be exciting when you have a backfire.
@@topcat5988 ive done a few conversions over the years and the best way is blow through a large SU carb you need a slight restriction on the boost pipe before the carb .a tapping from this is fed to a connection on the sealed float bowl which is fed by a rising rate fuel supply a stainless steel mesh plate is fitted between carb and manifold with a dome profile to clear the butterfly on wot the other suck through systems suffer from fuel welling up in the manifolds and need the throttle constantly blipped in traffic to keep its throat clear plus you have to make an exhaust wastegate pressure activated from intake to l exhaust manifold to operate a divertor wastegate id say blow through best way !
Jon E Cash that's my dad and he split off to California with some other woman after he sold the house on b Street in Tacoma months ago. Haven't heard from him since. So you are the famous Scab huh?
I have always been interested in forced induction and a turbo will always do it for me. This is an amazing setup with three single barrel carbs and a loud turbocharger. I'd love to see what this can do in a small 32 Ford or even a Chevy 210 Post. I love it!
Good engine, looks and sounds good, but the thing i wonder about is why someone would go to so much trouble on an old engine design, when much later engines are around, that have better breathing, stronger bottom ends etc. These old flatheads were not built to make big power, they were built for longlife reliable. The flathead Ford V8 only has three main bearings, ( i could be wrong ) and you can see looking at one, they were not designed to rev. One engine build the other day, Ford flathead V8, i think the only part i could see that was from the original was the block, everything else was either custom made or from something else. If you say a 34 Ford coupe flathead V8 and wanted More power, might be better to store the original engine/gearbox and run say a 302 Windsor, but leaving the car so you can return it to original!!
that is awesome! im basically inheriting a 53 dodge pickup and think a turbo is perfect for it! what sort of boost are you seeing? which turbo did you go with? which carburetors?
Hey I am planning on putting a turbo on my ford 200 straight six, what kind of turbo and if you know of any kind of company that makes a manifold for my engine that would be very helpful! I currently have this engine in my 65 ford falcon and want to get some more power out of it, but dont have enough money or the intentions to do a motor swap on it. everything is currently OEM on the motor and car, but I plan on purchasing a DUI distributor for it.
+Tiffany Orr this is a draw thru carb setup the fuel air mixture is sucked into the compressor housing and pressurized into the manifold. the carburetors are on the vacuum side of the turbo intake
This is fantastic. I love this on so many levels. Carbs, flathead, turbo...all hand done and custom made. Nice work
dude, your videos have given me a whole new look at turbocharging
Hey guys, thanks for the comments. Kev - the builder of this set up - currently has the block apart that this will go on. When it all starts coming together, I'll update with another video.
The engine in this video was a clunker, used for building the intake system. When Kev pulled it apart just to have a look, there were at least two stuck valves, yet it still ran this strong. It's going to be interesting to see how well this runs on a built motor in 2014. It should hopefully be ready for the VHRA Pendine Sands event in the summer.
I watched both videos several times. This set up LOOKS much better!!! How about a close up video of the improved set up and tell if there was any actual improvement or just a cleaner setup. Thanks for posting these!!!!!
How did the new motor turn out?
Ok so it’s after 2014 😬 how did the engine dooo
Nice setup. love the simplicity. that should be a far more dependable driver than your typical OHV setup, and a lot more economical.
This is awesome and I love to see a draw through system in use!
That’s one of the coolest builds I have seen. Lord God bless ya sir.
i love the triple carb setup , didnt think of doing it that way , well done
Lost the fan belt at 1:07! That's exciting....
If you got a build sheet available. I would love to do this for my 218 in my plymouth. This sounds AWESOME
It's drawn through, never mind.
Super cool setup.
Superb work , even with two poor compression cylinders it sounds good on tickover too.
I have never seen a turbo that feed below the carbs. I don't understand how the pressure doesn't flow back up the carbs. I really like the look.
The carbs are mounted before then turbo intake on what was known as a "log ram manifold" back in the day. The other method with carbs is a blow through, where the carb sits in the stock location, inside a box so the fuel bowl is pressurized and won't blow the fuel out the vent.
Patriot Warrior the turbo Pontiac 301 used a draw through setup aswell
Sure do like that custom manifold, what a great sound! Nice work bud.
Sorry to keep you all with updates and replies on this. Kev - the builder - is currently building his new engine for this induction set-up to go on. The block is prepped, the cam back from the grinders, and it is all going together as I type this.
I imagine that it will only be another few weeks before we get a fire-up on the test stand. The intention is that it will racing at Pendine in June 2014 with the VHRA here in England.
Awesome little hot rod motor, there is actually a engine shop out here in Corona California that specializes in turbo charging straight 6s to produce v8 power, it's called 6 into 8👍
Oh wow you guys shorted up the intake and exhaust manifold considerably! Nice work!
Nice draw thru, looks awesome
That is a great sounding Flathead, I wonder did you ever Dyno it , It was 90 hp stock, now has to be 180hp
Damn that sounds good! Love to see what it'll pull on a dyno.
Can't wait to see more. I have a flathead 8 that I want to turbo.
Did you turbo it? Just bought a running straight 8 this is my plan
Very interesting setup. The waste gate never opened, but it wasn't loaded either.
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Kev's flathead straight six turbo - Update #2
Hey, I got a dumb question here that I've always wondered about. In a setup like this where the turbo is not plumbed thru the carb(s), what prevents the air charge from the turbo from being blown up, out of the carbs, especially, when they slam shut and there's no engine vacuum. Thanks.
I want to know too answer the fucking question please.
I just looked it up. The turbo intake is between the carb and the engines intake. The air-fuel mixture is sucked through the turbo and forced into the engine. So the carb only ever gets vacuum.
Why is it so hard to plumb a turbo the correct way.
I’m surprised someone has not jumped on here and said something about “VW’s” and “high end racers” mounting the carburetors in front of the turbo.
When the turbo lags, the fuel condenses and lines the intake walls until the throttle is opened again then it’s a rich mixture. Also, the turbo won’t last long being washed with fuel all the time. Lastly, could be exciting when you have a backfire.
was that the death knock on shutdown
@@topcat5988
ive done a few conversions over the years and the best way is blow through a large SU carb you need a slight restriction on the boost pipe before the carb .a tapping from this is fed to a connection on the sealed float bowl which is fed by a rising rate fuel supply
a stainless steel mesh plate is fitted between carb and manifold with a dome profile to clear the butterfly on wot
the other suck through systems
suffer from fuel welling up in the manifolds and need the throttle constantly blipped in traffic to keep its throat clear plus you have to make an exhaust wastegate pressure activated from intake to l exhaust manifold to operate a divertor wastegate
id say blow through best way !
This is the most terrifying thing I have ever seen.
This package would look so sweet under the hood of my 53 M-37.
I want that engine for the go cart that I'm going to build! 😂
This is the Bee's knees!
Wow with stuck valves? Runs like a lion!
+Ross Wichern Hey, hows your brother Danny doing. Tell him Scab says hello. LOL
Jon E Cash that's my dad and he split off to California with some other woman after he sold the house on b Street in Tacoma months ago. Haven't heard from him since. So you are the famous Scab huh?
With an intake manifold set up like this, are you bypassing the need for a blow through/draw through carburetor set up?
I have always been interested in forced induction and a turbo will always do it for me. This is an amazing setup with three single barrel carbs and a loud turbocharger. I'd love to see what this can do in a small 32 Ford or even a Chevy 210 Post. I love it!
No, this has to go in a dodge or Plymouth coupe!!
wont handle more than 8-12psi boost due to no intercooler but will certainly haul in a light model T or A
The best sound next to the flatty 8.
1930s ear protection to match the build… very period accurate
I couple of safety pins and that belt will be good as new!
You should sell the whole set up in a kit form I would definitely have one
Who built the original flathead v-6? I was unaware of their production.
Is it fuel injected / how does it fuel with a pressurized intake manifold downstream of the carbs / throttle bodies?
Nice Work Kev
That sounds bloody Awsome
Love that sound.
The 1920s Supra, beautiful intake tho.
You need to find a Midas OHV head conversion for it. Good job on what you have done. I always liked the Ford flathead six. Henry Ford didn't.
Very cool build
Do you have a license to be that crazy? So cool.
nice engine build
Sounds wicked
What's the details on the turbo and parts used ?
Good engine, looks and sounds good, but the thing i wonder about is why someone would go to so much trouble on an old engine design, when much later engines are around, that have better breathing, stronger bottom ends etc. These old flatheads were not built to make big power, they were built for longlife reliable.
The flathead Ford V8 only has three main bearings, ( i could be wrong ) and you can see looking at one, they were not designed to rev.
One engine build the other day, Ford flathead V8, i think the only part i could see that was from the original was the block, everything else was either custom made or from something else.
If you say a 34 Ford coupe flathead V8 and wanted More power, might be better to store the original engine/gearbox and run say a 302 Windsor, but leaving the car so you can return it to original!!
Very Funky, I like it...respect.
Sound is great. Engine test stand. I want one. Thanks.
Does the compressor side of the turbo not get hot enough to ignite the fuel inside the turbo?
No, the fuel its self cools it quite well. Tho if used on high levels of power most will add a methanol injection sys
Love this setup :)
Did yall see him shoot the belt off at 1:08?
Darren , how's the distribution that way with merged intake runner and lean events?
Any way we can get the design layout? I have a 53’ Plymouth Cranbrook that needs this!
How is that not blowing boost up through the carbs?
Hey was wondering do you have specs for this or plans for a setup that would work on a green diamond flathead 6?
That is totally bad a**. Cool stuff cheers
what a beautiful intake! oh thats some craftsmanship for sure! really like how the fuel block got mounted up high like that, she looks all buisness!
that is awesome! im basically inheriting a 53 dodge pickup and think a turbo is perfect for it!
what sort of boost are you seeing? which turbo did you go with? which carburetors?
Just rev the piss out of it LOL! fire it up and rev it to the danger zone let's see some rods and pistons flying
Ran pretty smooth after you gave it an "Italian tune-up" aka run the piss out of it lol
I have a 251 cubic inch flathead in 48 pilothouse would love to do that set up.
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What carbs did you use and what turbo? What is the engine? I have a studebaker 6 i am wanting to try this on
When's it going in the car??
Darren are you up for diagram of your intake carb runner?
The belt didn't agree...
So how does it run on the road
Defiantly cool
Cool. What car it going in?
Took care of that belt in a hurry. Still pretty cool though.
Freaking cool!! Nice job
Now that's the shit right there, sounds great.
This is bad ass.
WOW
Cool! What's it going in?
Hey I am planning on putting a turbo on my ford 200 straight six, what kind of turbo and if you know of any kind of company that makes a manifold for my engine that would be very helpful! I currently have this engine in my 65 ford falcon and want to get some more power out of it, but dont have enough money or the intentions to do a motor swap on it. everything is currently OEM on the motor and car, but I plan on purchasing a DUI distributor for it.
How is the air going to pressurized with the carburetors open to the air and not closed off like a blow through setup?
+Tiffany Orr this is a draw thru carb setup the fuel air mixture is sucked into the compressor housing and pressurized into the manifold. the carburetors are on the vacuum side of the turbo intake
The carbs are in front of the turbo it sucks the air through the carb and forces it down the hole
I want to put this in my boat
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Nice !
Any updates?
what would this do in a 52 Ford pickup with a 4 speed
This would be sweet under the hood of a Hudson hornet
How can I get in touch with Darren? I have some questions about the build
Very classic, simple and probably very practical for someone who wants to give it a try. Looks like a bitch to fabricate though
Do all 3 of those carbs use the accelerator pump?
I was wondering the same thing. And I was curious what the vacuum advance would have to be set to.
Nice
Any future plans for a dyno test?
awesome !
Love it!
do you have a facebook page i have a 218 flat 6 dodge would love to do this to my moter
Hey Darren i would like to talk to you about that set up if you get a sec
How do you tune something like this? If it starts going lean, you just add another carburetor?
What turbo?
Very good 👍🏿
How many turbo max psi??
what a screamer.................good stuff
What litre engine is this?
cool as fuck i want one....😎
I want to buy this
did you buy it?