Scoot destroys Adum's brain with literally FACTS and LOGIC
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Adam has the art autism, and Scoot has the math autism.
Real
Scooters corrects Adam on what films he likes
As an Art autism, I agree.
This probably describes this argument perfectly
Honestly, you don't need to be autistic to come to Scoot's assumption, it's REALLY basic math that Adam is having a hard time with here (he's playing a hard game simultaneously, I'll cut him some slack)
I'm giving Scoot's logic a high 10/10, it is closer to an 11 than a 9
Most people would cutt off at ten. If ten is the highest rating it kind of negates the need for a 10.5 or a 10.4 or any other decimals.
that's like giving a movie five and a half stars, or if Ebert said "I loved this movie, I give it two thumbs up"
@@holdingpattern245 There's probably an equal amount of reviewers that use 4-star AND 5-star rating systems, so mentioning stars has almost no meaning unless it's above a 4 lol
Are you saying Scoot did 9/11?
Objectifying
This is one of my favorite Scoot moments. So sad to hear about his passing. RIP Scoot, you were magnificent.
This is the most ridiculously pedantic argument I've ever heard. I love it.
It is what I live for
Hi you must be new here, welcome to YMS.
@@AdahnFlorence No.
*"And I'm giving it a 6/10. It's closer to a 6.9 than a 6.2."*
Hahaha
Adum questioning life because of basic math is hilarious
Objection!
Adum gave The Hunger Games: Catching Fire a *5.5* in his quickie review!
So it's closer to a 6 than a 5
@@Jerry-yd8pj pretty much, but he did said a “5.5” instead of “closer to a 6 than a 5 (or 4)”
Adam dont stop saying "It's closer to a _ than a _"
I love that part
I love that the convo started with “IF you add decimals it would be X” and ended with “can we just say I don’t add decimals?”
And we know why he doesn't, since he hates periods, hence why he's gayto avoid that nonsense.
Scoot is being pedantic but also missing the fact that both rounding and truncation are a thing. If we were rounding, 7.8 would be an 8. If we’re truncating, 7.8 is a 7. Adum is truncating, Scoot is rounding. That’s it.
To truncate a number is to limit the number of digits to the right of the decimal, it does not replace rounding. When you say something is "more 7" than another seven that mean are least one digit past the decimal and that means rounding.
The problem is justifying the way you want to express something that isn't really math as correct math instead of trying to communicate what your thinking in the terms of math.
Adum is using a floor function
The best kind of trolling are the ones that send a message. I don't know what kind of message Scoot was sending, but by God, he sent it.
He wasn't even trying to troll lol
Send it!
Scoot doesn't understand that Adum is clearly using the floor function for his scores, as opposed to the round function.
If you look closely you see the moment when Adam's horse brain implodes on Scoots big cat logic. 1:06
Inb4 Adum runs to re-rate every single movie he's ever rated to conform with Scoot's superior rating system
Adum is using a mental tier list system for the ratings but visualizes it as a score. Professor Henson of course visualizes it as a linear metered scale with precise values for each appointed score, using rounding for each labelling.
RIP Scott ❤
The music in the background really elevates the argument
Getting this video recommended now is kinda sad. RIP Scott, you will be remmembered
Scoot is thinking about it way too mathematically/percentage-wise, whereas Adam is more focused on breaching the whole number barrier of a 6 or 8. If you want, you can divide up 7 into tenths (like Scoot did) and go from 7.1-7.9. Adam is more concerned about a 7 being closer to 7.1 or 7 being closer to a 7.9, because these bring them nearer to the threshold that would instead make the whole number 6 or 8.
More importantly though, anyone who has watched Adam’s channel recognizes that a 7 is functionally a 7.5 by his logic because a 7 being closer to an 8 follows the idea that it’s within 7.5-7.9, not 7.0-7.4. It doesn’t make mathematical sense, sure, but I’m sure everyone gets it.
I just wish Adam would have realized he can drop the decimals and said "75 out of 100" and no one can misinterpret the meaning then.
@@TrackZero Scoot would’ve argued that a 75+ would round up to an 80 lol. But it would be easier to visualize w something like blocks - which Adum even mentioned.
you overthink it. they just talk about different things and they confused themselves. scoot is arguing about how you round numbers and adum is talking about how you express numbers (and not how you round them) so even if you do round them in the way scoot is describing: you can still use adum's way of expressing the final number and neither scoot or adum would be wrong.
@@AnoNymous-dh2sv I mean yeah, none of it matters if you know what they mean at the end of the day
The things is though, if Adam says that he rates something a 7, closer to a 6 than an 8, than it can not be an implied 7.1 for example. Because a 7.1 isn't closer to a 6 than an 8. His own logic doesn't make sense.
Somehow the donkey Kong music makes this about 9.5 times funnier
Scoot is right. Adum is closed minded. RIP King
Adam is much better at thinking critically about movies then me, so it's kinda cathartic to see him really struggle with maths
"Decimals don't exist" - Adam Johnston
Isn't Scoot arguing that?
Scoot has convinced him
Scott is trying to say that if you round it, it's an 8.
Adam is not rounding it, so it's still a 7.
I am only a minute in, I will lose brain cells if the rest of this 6 minutes is not making this distinction.
EDIT: 4 minutes in, Scott finally clarifies he means to round it. Adam straight up says he does not think about rounding it. How are there still two minutes left??? Lmao
EDIT: It's done, Scott managed to word "I think reviewers should round their scores" in the most confusing way possible, and Adam spent so long saying "I don't round my scores" in such an overly descriptive way that it somehow blew up both of their brains and it ended with no one winning. I am gonna go commit Minecraft now.
EXACTLY!!
Yeah rounding isn't a rule you have to uniformly conform to. It's kind of arbitrary, like, if you really wanted to be pedantic you could say "actually 🤓, if something is a 7.5 it's not an 8, because it's a 7.5", and that would be dumb
If you are using round numbers then you are rounding it, it doesn't matter if you don't see it that way, that's what it is.
Yeah scoot is operating under the pretense that a decimal which literally reaches halfway to the next highest number (i e .5) automatically rounds up to the next highest number. It makes no sense. It really is an arbitrary rule that's he's applying for the sake of being pedantic. A 7.5 is not an 8, a 7.6 is not an 8, a 7.7 is not an 8, a 7.8 is not an 8, and a 7.9 is still not an 8. The decimals literally delineate the degrees in which the 7 is closer to an 8, that's why they exist in the first place. What a stupid argument. The only reason you would ever apply such a rule is for real life applications involving things like counting inventory. Additionally, something like a 7.3 would NOT equate to a low 7. That extra .3 of the number, for example, infers that it is still higher than a base 7. a low 7 would realistically be something like a 6.8, which for all intents and purposes would also be a high 6.
Edit: HOWEVER. According to Adum's ranking system, Scoot's logic actually applies. Because if Adum were to rate something a "High 6" then he would also have to accept that that is the same thing as a "low 7", which he does not. So in that sense, scoot is correct in that a "low 7" would be something like a 7.3. I think I actually understand where he's coming from if this is the case. Either way, it's all semantics and I personally (as with most people) would not rate things in terms of "high" or "low" variations of a number, and that is just something Adum does and doesn't consciously apply a rule to delineate between what makes a smaller "higher" number from a larger "lower" number.
So in summation, scoot is correct in that he's accounting for Adum's personal rating rubric, which Adum was not previously conscious of. But he would be incorrect in terms of how MOST people rate things on a 1-10 scale (ie how letterboxd allows you to only rate things in half star (.05) increments.)
You are extremely unintelligent.
The best part about this round of "Scoot gaslights Adum" is that Scoot is technically correct, ergo making everyone who disagrees a baby.
How dare you call me a baby! Wah! 😭
Fuuuuuck do i miss Scoot. Can't say I really tune into the streams these days. He just added a spice you rarely see these days.
Wait how are there so many people who seem to be surprised by Adums take and agree with Scoot? To analyse whether this is correct, let do something simple like multiplying the figures by 10. You wouldn't say 65 is "low 70s", or that 74 is "high 70s. Noone would say "that song came out in the early 80s", and someone replies with "what, 75, 76?
No we use high and low, early and late in relation to the span of the primary number or thing we are talking about. If we are referring to a seven, the only terminology which would land a number higher than 7.9 recurring or lower than 7.0 are the tests "almost", and "just past".
Noone was "it happened Early in the 2020". "What, September 2019?"
Finally, if something is 0.4, do you really think it is correct to say "a high 0"?
Years aren't a good comparison to make, it never makes sense to round them.
@@leonkuwata4510 Yeh but there isn't rounding going in, that was Scoots thing. It is describing the location of a point within a certain range, whether it be within the 70s, within a 7 or within a year.
And even if we conceded that the year example isn't the best, 60s and 70s doesn't just refer to years. So would you say that 67 was "low 70s"? Would you say 0.4 was "high 0s"?
@@MrMyers758 The most relevant word in Adam's scoring is "closer". If it's "closer" to a 6 than an 8, it just logically and mathematically follows that it could not possibly be above a 7. Logic dictates that it is a "high 6" in this case, somewhere between a 6.5 & 6.9.
@@leonkuwata4510 Yeh but it seems that he mispoke given that at 0:42 he said "closer to an 8 than a 6". Either way, regardless of what Adum said, Scoot is still wrong xD
I'm so glad he actually gave it a 8/10 all along
Scoots rounding the rating like it’s math forgetting that rating systems are completely arbitrary.
Scoot is assuming we're rounding. Adam is truncating. Scoot be dumb.
This will be brought up again at the next Olympic Games
Honestly, Adam's phrasing, "It's closer to a 6 than an 8", is what made me think his system was what Scoot thought it was in the first place. It's actually more confusing to me than if he just said, "It's a high 7."
Scoot: Well technically a high 7 is 6.5 to 7.5
Adum: 7 IS 7!!!
If someone said the temperature was in the high 80s that wouldn’t mean it was 78 degrees out
"I'm aware that no one else thinks about this, but I do, and I'm right."
he's literally me frfr
Scoot is using the Swedish method of rounding on a phrase
This moment was so funny because Scoot is mathematically correct, but everyone knows what Adum means when he says a high or low number. No one is taking his words literally. It is clearly just a casual turn of phrase. No one is actually thinking about how the decimals round! The whole thing is so ridiculous, and they just can't comprehend why the other thinks the way they do. It's amazing.
But Adam says "closer to an 8 than a 6," 7.2 is in fact closer to 8 than 6, that's not just mathematically correct, that is entirely correct. Adam is not rounding down either, otherwise he would say "closer to an 8 than a 7," ratings that are "closer to a 6" would just be 6.
@@holdingpattern245 while you're correct in what you said, "closer to an 8 than a 6" is not the same thing as a high 7
Total Virgo behavior
What precisely do you mean by saying scoot is "mathematically correct"
But the fact that Adam has never even CONSIDERED this perspective before this moment is genuinely astonishing.
Proving Tiger supremacy once again.
Adam looks so cute when confused, ngl
This this one of the funniest things on this channel. It's like when my parents argue
Scoot: *facts logic and quick maffs*
Adum: *throws a banana*
I love that chat turned into Spongebob's brain in the episode where he forgets his name during this convo.
That...actually makes sense lol
Finally, a video that expresses the difference between the Round and the Floor functions
my brain turned off for this entire conversation
Adam's sad Adam's Dumb, his brain, run by goblin.
i can see it both ways but personally agree with adum
adum is gonna change his t shirt design to 7/10 at this point
right up there with Shaq's grapple with the concept of spending less at the gas pump
I love scoot
Adam's typical usage of numbers makes complete sense. There are bands of possible qualities of movies that are divided into ten or nine bands, and each band is given a number. The lower parts of that band are closer to the band below and farther from the band above.
However translating that integer number into a continuous decimal number isn't trivial, I mean there is *more than a single correct way to do it*. The center of the band could correspond to 7.5 or 7.0.
Scoot is reasonably assuming Adam's language "it's closer to an 8 than a 6" means "it's closer to the value 8.0 than the value 6.0" which would mean he's rounding values such as 6.9 (closer to 6.0 than 8.0) up to 7. If Adam were using truncation, every value truncated to 7 would be larger than 7, so nothing in the category of 7 could ever be closer to 6.0 than 8.0, so Scoot assumed he must be using rounding.
But it turns out Adam is thinking that the whole band of 6 corresponds to the decimals starting with 6, and "closer to a 6 than an 8" means closer to the band he labeled 6, which includes values arbitrarily close to 7. Which is a bit awkward and unexpected, but doesn't ever come up if you avoid decimals.
Scoots 100% correct. If a "7" score is above 7.5, its not only "closer to an 8 than a 6", its also "closer to an 8 than a 7" therefore it'd be a low 8
So technically across the spiderverse is a low 8 by scoots method?
You know with inflation it takes things to a whole new level.
I see it as a C+ grade, which is crime. Lock him up! Lock him up!
Scoot craters Adum's entire life live while playing Donkey Kong
Adum is gonna be livid at how many times people ask him how high he was
I like how Adum gets pissed when he isn't always right.
Look I love Adum to death, but this was the most satisfying thing to see ever. He can be unbearable sometimes when he’s always right or tries to be right, so it’s good to see him get a taste of his own medicine when someone else finally proves him wrong lol.
This is a discussion of the difference between rounding and flooring
Adummmm, you can't always be right
Scoot just doesnt understand adums extremely convoluted rating system.
I can't believe Scoot is the first one to point this out to him.
Scoot, you don't round up ratings.
Adams a floor guy
Scoots a round guy
Scoot turned into Gael for a second.
ive got it this is simple. scoot is saying if you give something a straight up 7, then he assumes you mean 7.0. If you then say "low 7" he thinks you go into the 6.5 to 6.9 because thats where you go when you go lower than 7.0.
Adam is saying once you cross the 7.0 threshold it is categorized as a "7". It starts as a low 7 and then climbs up the 7 ladder to a high 7. "Closer to an 8 than a 6" just means it's closer to the 8 threshold.
If you were to go to school and take a test and you got an 89 on the exam, the teacher doesn't say, oh you got a low 90s score so you get an A. No, the teacher will say you got an 89, therefore, you get a B
But if you got 89.6 somehow they should absoluly round that up to a 90
I am FLOORed by this conversation that keeps going ROUND in circles
That's an interesting logic that I'd say is actually sound and correct, but ONLY if we talk about rounding up or down.
There are multiple different forms of rounding, and Adam’s form is just as valid as Scoot’s
Horse can only count by whole numbers.
"Scoot is saying 1×1 is 2"
But he's isn't wrong though... that's how rounding up and down numbers work.
Rounding isn't real lol
theoretically when it comes to numbers and math scoot is right, but no one who reviews movies and gives it a "7.7" thinks it's worth an 8. if it was worth an 8 it would've been an 8. that's why when adam says "it is closer to an 8 than a 6" works so well imo.
This feels like something out of xavier renegade angel
There is no 10.1/10 so this makes no sense from scoot. 0 is the lowest and 10 is the highest. It’s better to compare it to percentages where it would be 78%, in which you wouldn’t round to 80% because that’s not how numbers work
the chat message "Adum if you had 2 apples and you ate 1 how many you have" absolutely sent me
A cat tries to explain decimals to a horse
and this is why every review should be out of 100 😇
“2+2=5”- Adum
Can we just agree that when talking scoring systems ReviewBrah is the goat and leave it at that?
See it comes up with weather to say for example "It's going to be in the high 70s" and that means "at the high end of where you can go with '70' still in front when you say the number' (e.g. 77-79) so when someone says "a high seven" I interpret it as "at the higher end of numbers that start with seven" (e.g. 7.9)
The word 'semantics' embodied as a 6 minute clip
By the gods Scoot is right!
Following this logic, lets say I rate a 7 closer to an 8. That should be at most a 7.4 . If I rate an 8 closer to a 7 that should be a 7.6 at the least. The .5 is the line that limits the ratings not the round number.
My dyscalcula and autism cant handle this. Lololol
So scoot thinks you HAVE to round up every time ever. Don’t let him build a house 😅
i mean with most of those calculations you're on the safer side when you round up
no he means that if you arent using decimals and saying its a strong 7, your rating cannot go higher that 7.4999999
@@Nairolf0007going to be doing a lot of sanding though lol
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The day has come, Scoot was right.
what is funny to me is, unless i am mistaken, despite adum's inability to figure out decimals, the fact that he phrases it as ''closer to an 8 than a 6'', means that he can use numbers the way he does and it wouldn't be wrong. cuz even if he does want to give something a 7, with it being closer to an 8 than a 6, he could leave it at 7.9 and it would be accurate. i might have to sleep on this, tho, might be the sleep deprivation talking.
I understand exactly what you're saying scoot
This is now my favorite scoot/adam convo
This is such a hilarious conversation
Adams scores are like a measurement on a ruler
Tbh, I needed this conversation. Now I can understant Adam rating system better!
This is why decimal ratings are beyond stupid.
Just say Into the Spider-verse is an 8 trapped in the body of a 7
Scoot could bludgeon me with Adams controller and do less brain damage than this conversation has.
I love you Scoot but I love Adum 😊
Is it weird I immediately understood where Scoot was going with this?
Adum floors the values, losing the decimals. Scoot is using rounding. Those are two different things. Get it together xD
scientist here. to some extend both are right. purely numerically scoot is right because that's how rounding works but purely linguistically (how "we talk") we could say that a "low 8" is between 8 and 8.499.. but of course while knowing that's not how rounding works (but only how we express a number and not how we express rounding).
Scoot is 100% right
I enjoy Adam being put in his place
But the only way that "closer to an 8 than 6" makes sense is if you're using Scoot's system, because with Adum's 7 threshold it would mean that it would either be an even distance between 6 to 7 and 7 to 8 or closer to 8 because you would have to go under 7 to get closer to 6. The clarification is what makes it complicated.
Although if 6.9 counts as 6, then Adum's system works if all he says is it's a high 7, near 8, but it's kinda confusing.