@@StarlightLumi Meh, it's more about memorization with the start and stop songs. Honestly they used to be really annoying but now most songs don't have them or if they do it's more "readable".
Maybe yeah, but the way I see is it Pluto isn’t a bad chart but it has a bunch of stops and speed gimmicks. This chart is both terrible(in my opinion) and has lots of gimmicks.
From one of the easiest 16's in its Expert chart to one of the hardest 17's in its Challenge one. Even ignoring the myriad of stops, this is far from the most straightforward charting ever. Those bizarre crossovers, some of which are scoobies, and those 24ths at the end that deign to kill any piff attempts are just unkind...
@@Sepharig Like it's been said, they're crossovers that start with your body already turned and thus your one foot leading on the opposite arrow (i.e. right foot on left arrow, or left foot on right arrow). Called scoobies because they originated from an old school player's comment about how one looks like Scooby-Doo when they perform this.
Chaos: *has dozens of stops* Players: "it's like twelve years old, we know" Remix of Chaos: *also has dozens of stops* Players: *surprised Pikachu face*
I used to create sim files many years ago for step mania. I took a song like this called stop and go and made a chart to it. I forced people to get used to stopping on freeze arrows except for one where the freeze was after one of the freeze arrows. It's good to see a step chartist has the same evilness in them that was in me lol.
It stuck out like a sore thumb to me when only the expert chart was out. I HATED it. now of course they capitalize on that sounds in the challenge chart. I still hate it.
Well most stops are predictable and just require getting used to, the original chaos had stops that literally didn’t make sense and the music didn’t help
hnkul702 It’s the only one yeah haha; I presume they wanted to preserve the original stop at 355 over adding another one to match the clock tick at 354, but for the sake of consistency on having a hold on the clock tick, they left that there too It’s sneaky af and caught me off-guard the first time, but def doesn’t feel as tricky compared to all the other stops they added to the clock tick >.>;
So what happens on songs like this and Ace for Aces if you play with another person and one player picks the Challenge chart while the other picks the Expert?
except the chart that was leaked back then had the same number of stops as the other difficulties, if you compare the .sm files of the "beta" chart to this, the "beta" was roughly the same chart, just didn't add more stops in. the leaked "beta" chart of possession 20th mix didn't have shock arrows but the chart itself was basically the same
@@Akita23 Pretty sure that was an error on the person who transcribed those charts. I can confirm that they had all of those additional stops in the 'beta' chart
It's a shame it's CHAOS and thus contractually obligated to be this stop-heavy(and thus terrible). If it weren't, it might actually be a fun song, and soundwise it beats the original handily.
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That nod to CHAOS CSP's ending stream at 544.
That short freeze arrow with stop will get me all the time.
it's cruel lmao
The part at 1:09 where it tricks you by having the stop on the 12th after the freeze arrow instead is honestly the best lol
That is honestly so stupid.
@@StarlightLumi Meh, it's more about memorization with the start and stop songs. Honestly they used to be really annoying but now most songs don't have them or if they do it's more "readable".
I mean that's neat, but I'm more a fan of the down arrow at the beginning of the chart that comes up to you and says hi
The clue is that the fake freeze arrow is slightly longer than the rest.
The mind games, yet going to the rhythm is so interesting. I dig it. Those green arrows creeping back into the second have get me every time.
chaos regains it's stature as THE stop song
nehkoo as opposed to what?
LevelMaxGames Pluto, maybe?
Maybe yeah, but the way I see is it Pluto isn’t a bad chart but it has a bunch of stops and speed gimmicks. This chart is both terrible(in my opinion) and has lots of gimmicks.
LevelMaxGames I meant more that the expert chart really wasn’t the same as the original challenge chart, so I’m glad they went all out with this one
It's not even a song at this point. It's just noise. I dont know how anyone can enjoy listening to this on a normal day.
Damn, this chart came back with vengeance!!
I'm really digging this. Not only did they give a nod to the original chaos at 0:50 in the music, but also used the same steps.
リミックス系って最初の原曲が1番いいやんってなりがちやけどこれはいいな
譜面もおもろい
From one of the easiest 16's in its Expert chart to one of the hardest 17's in its Challenge one. Even ignoring the myriad of stops, this is far from the most straightforward charting ever. Those bizarre crossovers, some of which are scoobies, and those 24ths at the end that deign to kill any piff attempts are just unkind...
Out of the loop on DDR lingo here, what are scoobies?
@@Sepharig Like it's been said, they're crossovers that start with your body already turned and thus your one foot leading on the opposite arrow (i.e. right foot on left arrow, or left foot on right arrow). Called scoobies because they originated from an old school player's comment about how one looks like Scooby-Doo when they perform this.
@@Sepharig Afronova walks = scoobies
I like this. Finally got an indication on where the stops are. I'm gonna play it this weekend
Deshaun Martin ok
So how did you do on it?
@@inujosha 88k. Need to play it more
this is brutal holy shit
I love it
Chaos: *has dozens of stops*
Players: "it's like twelve years old, we know"
Remix of Chaos: *also has dozens of stops*
Players: *surprised Pikachu face*
I used to create sim files many years ago for step mania. I took a song like this called stop and go and made a chart to it. I forced people to get used to stopping on freeze arrows except for one where the freeze was after one of the freeze arrows. It's good to see a step chartist has the same evilness in them that was in me lol.
the itg3 song???
@@almost_friday9745 I believe so. From what I understand it was going to be released on itg 3 until Konami sued them.
The green freeze arrows are so weird. Tbh I never paid any attention to that sound either and now I can't unhear it.
It stuck out like a sore thumb to me when only the expert chart was out. I HATED it. now of course they capitalize on that sounds in the challenge chart. I still hate it.
これDPだと最初が「HERE WE GO!」の文字に隠れるのすき
真・CHAOS Terror-Tech Mix
The more I hear this, the more I dig it.
\ｯﾎﾟﾝ/
銭湯で風呂桶落とした音にしか聞こえないw
honestly its fun.
if you ever seen someone pfc or near pfc this in person, it is absolutely insane....
There's 71 stops in this chart, good luck to any score fiends out there you have a lot to memorize.
New record
I think this is the same as the original cut
Well most stops are predictable and just require getting used to, the original chaos had stops that literally didn’t make sense and the music didn’t help
Whoever requested these gimmicks should be responsible and try this chart then
Because the stops omg
What do you me *PONG*
an, this song *PONG*
doesn’t seem to *PONG*
o bad if you ask me.
(Seriously though its a nightmare chart)
Blame the "father's" chart. 71 stops and the only 200 Chaos GR value of all the charts
Beautiful...
Can we talk about how there's a short Freeze Arrow on step 354, but it's step 355 that has the stop? This happens on Double Challenge as well.
hnkul702 It’s the only one yeah haha; I presume they wanted to preserve the original stop at 355 over adding another one to match the clock tick at 354, but for the sake of consistency on having a hold on the clock tick, they left that there too
It’s sneaky af and caught me off-guard the first time, but def doesn’t feel as tricky compared to all the other stops they added to the clock tick >.>;
It's misleading on purpose.
Tony TheTGR And that’s the best part
Trolling at its best lol
I thought that percussion was cool but OK, Konami must have briefed ARM to put some weird off-beat shit in just for this moment lol
ok this IS Terror-Tech
最近この曲良くやります。いやらしい止まりかたに不意を突かれてますがw
最後の滝は好きですね。
激初クリアから数ヶ月後に踏んだから「あれ、こんなに停止あったっけ？」とか思ったが、ホントに停止回数増えてたとは(
A4A以来の「異難易度でスクロールが違う曲」になったか。
I love this song and the chart.
1:47 sup Chaos CSP
So what happens on songs like this and Ace for Aces if you play with another person and one player picks the Challenge chart while the other picks the Expert?
I love how at parts like 0:34 there's another freeze right after a freeze.
Wait. Did they do different stop times for this than B/D/E? >.>
Yep. All the other charts have about 30 stops; this has about 70. Good luck!
My first 17 clear was this.
Please reupload 3.75x!!! Would like to visually learn stops but 2.5 is a little slow
Do we already have simfiles for this? As well as Possession, Show Me Your Moves, etc.
Eric Sanchez 4 months later and I’m still looking for it
激はまだそんなに覚えなくてもだったけどこれは完全に覚えゲー
holy fuck, what a chart. i love it
Anyone got this simfile, can’t seem to find it anywhere
Question. How did you get the other speed option on the right side?
hax
Does anyone have a link to the simfile for stepmania?
Search on Zenius i Vanisher DDR A pack
They don’t have the CSP chart :(
@@linearmemories zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/viewsimfilecategory.php?categoryid=1148 here
I'm also waiting.
よし、完璧覚えた
覚えゲーやけどしっかり強い！
Even though I know every stop pretty well I struggle a lot on the weird one sided turns past 0:52 and doublestepping ruins my accuracy
easy solution: dont doublestep
milquetoast 18
Still waiting for Konami to fix the mischarted arrow at 1:09
thats actually the most intentionally charted arrow
@@rilegoat No it’s not 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I agree with it being super intentional to throw you off. It's messed up, but hilarious. I wouldn't change it lol
i need to look at the flowing chart to play this lol
Iba todo hasta el final, ahi me fui a la b...
In case you thought Chaos couldn’t get any harder...
16+ギミックで1感ある...16から昇格されたんだっけ
I prefer the original more than the remix but I would say I’ll give this song a try.
It's another decently long song.
Looks like this must’ve been inspired by ORCA’s Expert chart
This chart existed at least 3 months before ORCA was a thing. They just never released this until now.
except the chart that was leaked back then had the same number of stops as the other difficulties, if you compare the .sm files of the "beta" chart to this, the "beta" was roughly the same chart, just didn't add more stops in.
the leaked "beta" chart of possession 20th mix didn't have shock arrows but the chart itself was basically the same
@@Akita23 Pretty sure that was an error on the person who transcribed those charts. I can confirm that they had all of those additional stops in the 'beta' chart
...ok what in the HECK are those freeze arrows
Green freezes are like training wheels on a bicycle, adults don't need these.
DDR IS A "SENSE"
This comment is good and cool
覚えゲーやろ。足じゃなくて頭を使うんだ
覚えゲーだけど加えてあんなにバカみたいにアフロさせといて足17は流石に詐称でしょ
Say it with me kids
BS
なんかこれじゃない感
初見死す
停止がなかったら、普通の１５じゃない？
停止なしでも15、16にしては後半が激しすぎる気がする
@@talkion 曲はちょっと長いからね。
It's a shame it's CHAOS and thus contractually obligated to be this stop-heavy(and thus terrible). If it weren't, it might actually be a fun song, and soundwise it beats the original handily.
I used to like Chaos as a song but now in comparison to this that was absolutely just a bunch of slapdash noises compared to this lmao, agreed
The stops are telegraphed, so it's fine. Stops with zero indication that it's coming are stupid.
Tired of these garbage songs. I don't wanna have to memorize everything.
what do you expect? this is a Chaos song after all lol, of course its gonna live up to its infamous stops and gimmicks
I get you. It's honestly lame when your performance on a song depends on how well you've memorized it and less on how well you can actually play.
Go play itg
These new charts are trash
Why?
this chart is super fun tf u mean LOL