Hartenstein Ditches Knicks for $87M Thunder Deal!
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Sorry we lost I-Hart, but we'll survive. I would be worried more if we lost OG.
That's definitely true. OG was the right priority.
Knicks could only offer him 16 mil a year it’s a numbers game. I would rather have Bridges with OG resigned. They chose Bridges essentially over him. I don’t mind that.
Say that now but when Mitch gets hurt??!!
BRIDGES AND ANUJOBY AIN'T SHIT. HARTENSTEIN, ROBINSON, AND RANDLE ARE THE HEART OF THE TEAM.
I liked I Hart but damn he isn’t the key to a championship. And how can you say best passing big man when Jokic is in the league 😂.
Hartenstein isn't even as good as Sabonis let alone Jokic 😂
People acting like he scores 20 points a game..
Stop hating 😂😂.
The guy on the light blue shirt has no clue. Randall is way more important than hart
Lol the dumbass called IHart the "best passing big man in the NBA". Yeah, because Nikola Jokic doesn't exist lol
This guy acts like we lost David Robinson.
This man said Hartenstein is the best big man passer in the league like Jokic doesnt exist 😂😂 This is what happens when guys only watch 1 team for a whole season. They say shit like this. If Hartenstein and Jokic passing abilities were in a building together. Jokic would be on the 75th floor and Hartenstein would be on the 25th 😂😂 Best big man passer in the league and avg 2.5 assists a game. You gotta love new york radio man
Ok 2nd best.
@@locoman888 Bro he's probably not even top 5. I love My knicks but sometimes our fans are delusional. Since when is 2.5 Ast PG consider you as the best passing big man in the league lmao
If you think it’s not a big deal then you are just a box score watcher. All of his analytical impact numbers are insane. If you watch the games you know how much better Knicks are with IHart vs Mitch.
100% correct. It’s not about Randall or Iheart. Keep them both. It’s Mitch we could have done without.
I Hart is the best big man passer in the NBA dude just totally forgot about 3 time MVP Nikola Jokic 😂
I completely agree with Sal on this. Ihart is a good maker but he’s replaceable at the cost he’s looking for. Leon will make it work
Guys, what’s with this idolizing of IHart, yes he was great with the Knick’s in terms of our team-that’s what we will miss, but to swoon that he’s gone is so ridiculous. Offense runs through h, really?
Hartenstein never backed on player down in his career just need to find another rebounder not a big deal Bt
It’s not that big of a deal relax
But Mitch will get hurt.
@@locoman888smd
It's pretty significant. Offensive rebounds were the main reason the Knicks beat the 76ers.
Cope
@@yov6camoverpaid backup center, no one is coping
Major problem, Mitch is always hurt and ihart arguably played better when he got the minutes. This could really mess with team chemistry also
Yea they're definitely not going to make changes before the season starts... Stop whining
@@shiznitshnitzel4 make changes sure, but they aren’t filling the void left by ihart. Being realistic isn’t whining you clown
@@shiznitshnitzel4 whining? Just stating my opinion that relying on Mitch or some low end free agent won’t cut it
WAY OVER PAID THAT MONEY IS FOR A STARTING CENTER THAT DOMINATE STEIN IS NOT THAT GUY GLAD TO SEE KNICKS DID NOT OVER PAID.
Thibs/Rose found, developed n made him a lot of money. So trust Thibs/Rose to find a replacement
Last year IHart avg 2.5 ast Randle avg 5.0
What was their usage rate?
Saying that the Knicks go from a championship team to not because of IHart is a bad take. He was a significant part of the 2023 team but it was him that got them that deep in the playoffs. Hell, even in the 76ers series, he didn't play well. He had big moments but he fouled out a lot. This is a bad take
BT is making no sense. He’s saying Knicks now can’t win a championship wo IHart. Then why be excited about resigning OG and getting Bridges? If one of those deals don’t happen Knicks resign IHart. U can’t have it both ways they couldn’t keep all 3. I like what they did Bridges OG IHart odd man out.
Best big man passer? Bt stop it man
The guy in the blue he's right
About the coach Robinson is the player he would maximize
Still need a Center.
MITCH ATE UP EMBID FOR LUNCH! EMBID HAD TO TACKLE MITCH TO BE ABLE TO PLAY WITH HIM!!!
Facts.
Yeah true, but the surprise part of that is that he was even available to play in the first place. It's hard keeping Mitch healthy for longer than a week
Embiid stepped on him and Mitch got hurt again.
@@locoman888 Embiid literally pulled him down illegally and got away with it.
@@locoman888Mitch didn't get hurt from Embiid.
You'll take IHart over Randle your crazy!
Dude called hartenstein was the best passer in the nba lol I heard it all today
Disrespecting Randle a lot here. He’s a big part of this team offensively.
People are crazy Ihart had so many last second rebounds to win games.
Now they can't contend because Hartenstein left? That's the dumbest thing I've heard.
@@ron6083 he was a major piece, especially since mitch is made of glass.
Thank you
Worst take ever bro.. unbelievable!!
Weren’t competing regardless with the Celtics. They are probably still better than the 76ers, but it’s a lot closer if PG stays healthy. Presti doesn’t pay players that much he doesn’t believe a lot in.
@@austenwebb1629 how'd that workout with Harden?
You can’t blame him. Congratulations I-Hart on getting a ridiculous contract
Seeing him leave the building stinks, he brought great offensive rebounding and movement. But he was never getting 30 mil from us
I COMPLETELY TRUST LEON ROSE WITH EVERYTHING
Hartenstein over Randle is he nuts!!!
No are you nuts?? Everyone basketball savant know you rather have a person who has a career high of 8pts and 8 boards over an all NBA player!! It’s that simple a 3x all star is not that good!! In all seriousness I’m not even the biggest Randle fan but he’s better than IHart who I will miss but can be replaced
He said Hartenstein is the best big man passer in the league like Jokic doesn't exist😂
@@williamarroyo1109he was hurt because he had to carry the load just like New Yorkers they don’t appreciate their stars
@@PopOutPauliethese guy are smokin some good shit
@@williamarroyo1109 you sound like you have no idea what your talking about 🤡
Stop acting like Hartenstein was Shaq
It’s obvious who watched the games
Sal could not be more wrong, and it shows me he didn’t watch a ton of Knicks games last year. Iheart was HUGE and his passing helped unlock the Knicks offense
The reason why the offense flowed more with Isaiah is because of how comfortable Brunson ran the pick and roll. We’re going to need OG and/or Randle to run the pick and roll more. We do that…. And we’re scary!!!!!!’
Best big man passer in the NBA? Don't pull a muscle with a stretch like that BT
It sucks but come on BT! He was a good piece that they developed time to find another nice piece to develop! These two are like the wind every move every game everything it’s either to positive or too negative!
Randle is 2 times all star…you should not compare hart with Randle…Randle is the man
Word...but who the hell is comparing
Very rare Sal is correct on anything but Hartenstein's contract is hilarious and the Knicks would have been insane to give him anywhere near that kind of money to get 7 pts and 8 rebs a game. But he's also delirious thinking Randle makes this team better. Randle is a cancer for the team and the offense will not work once he's back on the court. He's a selfish Me-first guy who clogs the court up and will cost them next seasons hopes if he's still around.
Thanks for exposing that you didn't watch Randle this past season with the team. Randle was already adjusting his game and playing great with the team, even looked good playing alongside OG during the Knicks long winning streak in January before Randle got injured. So you claiming he's selfish and a cancer to the team sounds like online and media regurgitated talking points. Watch the games please.
Randle is still valuable to the team, he's the main enforcer and can play bully ball like other. Also, his presence on the court makes it difficult for teams to constantly double team Brunson. The double teams on Brunson became worse once Randle went down, you would have known that had you actually watch the Knicks play.....SMH!!!
Mitch is the better player for exactly what the Knicks need in their center but he unfortunately cannot stay healthy and you need to have a good backup plan in place for his inevitable injury.
How can you say that Hartenstein is a better passer than the Joker.
Well the knicks didn't offer him anything he's a free agent with no job security of course he's gonna take what's offered to him. It's a big loss for the knicks but is I heart really worth 29 mil a year ? Very good center who's pretty resourceful but I don't know if he's worth 87 million maybe 50
IHart stepped up when Mitch went down. He played himself into getting a big contract but with Randle, OG, Bridges & Brunson coming back and healthy he won't be missed as much. Mitchell needs to stay healthy that's all.
KNICKS
MOVE ON FROM THIS MOMENT
GET SOMEONE ELSE WHO WILL DO THE JOB MUCH BETTER OFF THAN IHART
The fo has a plan for this. We gotta watch what they do.
He is wrong. We lost a player that gives his all. Watch him shoot 3 pointers! We will regret his parting!
The guy on the left(blue shirt) is absolutely Right!!!! Mitch ate J.Embid's lunch? U are a FOOL!!! I can shoot better free throws than Mitch and I'm 69 years old!!He missed 50 games last year! U need more evidence?
Anyone valuing IHart more than Randle just doesn’t get it
I don’t understand how 5 assists per game translates to this garbage? I’m sad about Hartenstein. But it is what it is. It’s part of the sport. And you still find a way to win
Brunson, Bridges, Anunoby, Randle, Robinson
Hart, DiVincenzo, McBride, Kolek, (Bitadze)?
Not bad. That’s a contender in my book
Give the Knicks credit for making IHart what he became! Before that, noone knew him!🧡💙
Jeez, those Randell haters ! Can you imagine these people would rather ship Randell out to keep Harteinstein? Unbelievable !!! Stop the madness....
One more thing. Am ok that he got his money but if he becomes the next Prozinghis I will be pissed. Lol
I love Hartenstein, but know way in hell would I pay him anything close to that
So...can we replace Omari Spellman over Hartenstein?
First time I agree with this guy , Hartenstine couldn’t cover ether center in the playoffs , Mitch rehabbing had to play down the stretch and close out games against Philly
BT is crazy. He's an All NBA player. He commands double teams 😊
Not a championship breaker he isnt even a top star, BT with the bad take again.
Whoever called in saying Randle is a loser is an absolute clown show. IHart was part of last years depleted team and excelled there, he is not a person you give the ball when the clock is running out. I like IHart but I’ll take Mitch all day especially against Embid.
Based on the construction of this current team, the best option at the 5 to start is Julius Randle.
He won’t be able to guard the elite centers in this league but no center in this league can guard him and that matters!!!!
This is what happens when a role or bench player plays beyond their expectations in NY! You ball out here for 1 year and you are guaranteed the bag. Jeremy Lin was a prime example...
Isaiah will be missed but if Knicks top 4 players stay healthy then they won't skip a beat. East will be tougher this year but nobody can tell the future....just gotta pray we stay healthy and Knicks have a chance to be top 3 again next year....LGK!
Hartenstein was good with backup role players his passing ability helped with a team that had one player who could create their own shot it helped everyone else to get shots, but a team where it’s Julius, Jalen, OG, and mikal a lot of shots are taken Mitch is going to grab a lot of offensive rebounds that is going to make the knicks a dominate team. They both are good in different ways Mitch has to stay on the court that’s all.
Can’t believe I agree with Sal
Hartenstein will not be missed to the degree that these guys are giving him credit for. Knickerbockers made the right financial decision... We're happy for Hartenstein... He's not a Knick anymore so IDGAF...
Best passing center averaged 2 assists 1 more than Mitch , who don’t touch the ball half as much as Hartenstine !
You guys have to relax u all forgetting how good Randle is and how well he rebounds with Randle we beat Indy and lets not forget IHart got out played by Turner and 30 mill for having a good half a season
He is a big piece. I’d rather have him than Mitchell Robinson because of injury prone, but Mr. Robinson was healthy all the time and not injury prone. I take Mitchell Robinson because he did better against Embiid Mitchell Robinson.
It is a big deal. Sal is way off on this one. Hartenstein has a much more modernized skill set and is more rugged. Robinson is always hurt. Why is Sal asking what does Hartenstein bring. Just ask the Thunder, they sure think highly of him giving him that contract.
I 100% agree with BT
BT is buggin. Everyone forgets what the Knicks looked like when OG and Randle were on the floor together healthy. 12-2 and were dominating West Coast teams. Now add Bridges to that and Elite Mitch. Simms will be better this year as well. I Heart will not be missed. Happy for him though.
IHart will be missed once Half a Season Mitch gets injured AGAIN. Mitch cannot be a starting center anymore. Mitch is the one hurting the team at this point by being the main center. Alot of ya'll are in denial about Mitchell Robinson like you were with RJ Barrett.
And I hope paying OG all that money does not cone back to bite the Knicks either because OG also has a history of being injury prone.
SAL IS A TRUE KNICK FAN!!!
iHart touching the ball is not a necessity. It only became valuable due to injuries.
If hartenstien was all that we would of beaten the pacers, he was overwhelmed bye siakam
IHart was more important last yr than this yr. Hopefully don’t need the offense this year. Need the health though
He fit the knicks system yhats what it is hes a nice plsyer but replacable.
You guys got great points but let’s think about the thibs system. The system that thibs brings out the best in good players
I agree with Sal on this 1
Oh Sal 😅
I think we’ll be ok without IHart but to say he doesn’t have an offensive game is ridiculous. He got the massive Offensive rebound that lead to that Dvo 3 against the Sixers.
He netted all those floaters.
He may not average a lot of assists but his “hockey assists” were huge. He made it easier for Brunson to play.
I will agree with Sal that his importance is diminished with a healthy Randle since Randle is a great playmaker so hopefully that’s what we see.
I’m still excited for this team. LGK!
It’s a big deal….which is why arguably the best GM in sport gave him 29 per and why the Knicks really wanted to keep him. You just traded 7000 picks for Bridges and gave perennially injured OG 212 million but you wouldn’t “overpay” for Hartenstein….please. He was a perfect fit….a downgrade is inevitable at the spot this year. It’s about titles now, margins are very thin, and new cap rules plus minimal young talent plus a lack of picks makes it difficult for the Knicks to add real talent. We lost to Indy last year, we barely beat a hobbled 76ers team that has massively improved…..let’s not act like we’re the Celtics.
You Knicks fans act like if Hart wasn’t on your team this past season you still would have made it to the second seed Mitch was hurt. And let’s not forgot Mark Daigneault was coach of the year so just because Tom Thibodeau didn’t have him as a role player doesn’t mean he won’t be one in OKC.
Knicks will be fine. No way is iHart worth that money
Leon Rose messed up two ways..should have signed I Hart for 3 years and should have moved up in this draft to get Zach Edey if he knew I Hart would sign elsewhere.
The argument should not be Ihart vs Randle, it should be Ihart vs Mitch
Leon better steal Shai from OKC when that day comes .. we better throw whatever it takes !! Best believe Leon said its on after that ..
We will end up getting Taj Gibson lol
"IHart does not do anything well"...what?
2nd best offensive rebounder in the league
5th best passing center in the league
a very good defender 80 blocks 80 steals, tell me how many centers did that this year
Lets face it is a tough lost but with this new CBA it is tough for all teams.
We just gotta let Leon Rose cook and find us a back up for Mitch.
Mitch averaged more Blocks and more steals last year than Hartenstine ! Look it up , who couldn’t cover Embiid and Turner ? Mitch rehabbing finished games in the 4th , Pacers ran a layup line on Hartenstine 65 points in the paint twice out rebounded us
I love Hartenstein, but not for $29 million/yr.
BT’s smoking dope on this one💯
I love and will miss IHart. But Randle is the only other guy besides Brunson that draws a double team, now Randle will have guys all over to kick the ball out to
Good for him. They can’t keep everyone and BT is right the ball stops with Randle, Hardistein was not selfish and he passes. And the injuries with Robinson and Randle every year is annoying. But it’s New York and it’s never ever easy for us.
You can tell who actually watches the game. Sal is clueless
He had 0 points in game 7...this dude is acting like we lost Kareem. He played his best with Randle out, when he got to touch the ball, and played better when the bench players were starting because of injuries. With Randle, Brunson, Bridges, and OG, our starting center needs to grab misses and get putbacks, he doesn't need to do Hartenstein stuff...be "the best passing big man".
Tierney is that old school Knicks fan who overvalues scrubs....Isiah is morre important than Randle. 🙄
Good deal for the thunder
NOT WORRIED BECAUSE SUMMER LEAGUE IS COMING.
He makes more than Brunson
I like IH very much but BT is overrating him by a lot
Knicks do what they do best. Screw Up!
IHart is not the best passing big in the league…BT must’ve forgotten about Joker. Randle is waaay more important than ihart…we lost to pacers with ihart, I say the missing piece was Randle, we needed someone down low to bang with Indy. Mitch if he’s healthy will be more than fine at the 5
Mitchy no snitchy the blockness monster. Congrats to Ihart loved the miniutes he gave us but it was always Mitch's job when he is 100%. I trust Leon to get us a quality back up.
That's the problem, he's NEVER 100% and partly the reason why the Knicks have not and will not win anything. Mitchell Robinson cannot be the starting center due to him getting hurt every season. Ihart is going to be tough to replace. And when it doesn't work out, that OG contract will also be another reason why, he wasn't worth that money.
@@lirpa2300 injury is never guaranteed one way or the other. And to say Mitch is the reason we never won is such a casual take. He literally is the anchor of the defense that changed the Knicks culture. He is a big part of the process that got the Knicks out of years of mediocrity. And is our best option against guys like Embiid and the Greek. Again all respect to ihart but he could not guard Embiid on one leg. Mitch gave him real issues till the cheapest shot of the playoffs happened.
NY Knicks fans......I introduce our 2nd string center...from Australian NBL...7'0" 245 lbs..Ariel Hukporti!!