35+ Countries Are Leaving the Global Internet
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China started it with the Great Firewall. Russia followed with Runet, Iran with the National Information Network, and by now, at least 35 countries are increasingly cutting themselves off the global internet.
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@@yaz2928 Don't worry about it, it'll take a year or two for Moscow to be occupied by either Ukraine or NATO. Or something idk, keep coping vatnik.
@@yaz2928 Keep coping and seething, vatnik.
@@RERM001 The ukrop is now projecting his own seething and anger on others, keep dreaming about Moscow though.
@@yaz2928 I don't have to dream, the monke will bring perestroika 2 to the federation.
@@RERM001 Two more weeks ukrop.
This is extremely depressing. Every country that wants to cut itself off is basically admitting that it desperately wants to surpress its people. I hope there will always be some workarounds
I will say that government are just waking up on how much control US has on the Internet and social media and how invasive it actually is to other countries for the benefit of the US military and government. And you can see that the countries that want to cut the control of US meddling in their countries are the ones that try it.
Of course that doesn't apply to every country that wants to have restrictions on the Internet but it will be for the better if more countries did it for their protection as it has no difference when the Internet is already dictate by the US for it benefits, in comparison when countries do it it has more" benefits " and security from outside meddling.
More like protecting it self from Western influence
I cant comprehend the fact that how flawed this argument is.
Not all nations want its Internet to be controlled by the West. Look what they did to russia during the war. They cut it immediately, so the West weaponized the Internet.
we are suppressed by cancel culture when we don't agree with liberals
As an Ethiopian, i can tell you that the 18 month long internet blackout is misleading, the blackout is only in a small region (state/ province) where, up until recently, there has been a violent war between the federal government and a heavily armed rebels.
Electricity and running water have also been cut there , partly as a deliberate act of sabotage by both sides and partly due to infrastructure damage resulting from shelling.
Things might come back to normal pretty soon tho, the rebels have agreed to a ceasefire and disarmament.
Same thing in India, it was those areas where we have violent insurgency / communist rebels and terrorists.
@@pramitkhanna7163 Bhai that is in the majority of our states...
@Shankar Ravikumar I've never had an internet blackout in my state. If you mean sites are blocked, that I agree with. It's nationwide. I was referring to the total internet blackouts, i.e., shutdown of internet services.
this whole video is very politically biased and misleading. sad.
And in Canada they won't tell you in any i formation...what happened around the world 🌎. Only what happened in UK and that is propaganda
5:10 I'm from Russia, I use internet daily from 2007, there was never a complete 'black-out' in our country, only sites banning and black lists.
Because Russia is and will be only country with human thinking. Putin is first Leader in the World 🌎. Who is talking and representing info as is happening. West has bs propaganda only. They lie all time. And people walking like 🐑 s
@@vsr3777 yes I also think that because I am from India and using internet almost daily from 2014 and I haven't seen any blackout as mentioned in this video at 5:18
@@laser213 for some reason some random websites get blocked like porn and videolan for some reason
Yes, and everything is easily accessible via vpn
Mike Pondsmith the creator of the Cyberpunk franchise predicted this outcome in the early 90's, He called the local networks "Data fortress" but those where mainly controlled by megacorporations not nation/states.
You have to remember that in the Cyberpunk world Megacorps are as powerful if not more powerful than actual governments, so the parallel you put is even closer
@@pedrokreutzwerle9488 Megacorps such as Google+ Lockheed combine. ^^
Then you'll love deus ex
the US Internet is controlled by megacorpotarions the other nations are the goverment.
@@marcos-ll2yr Indeed
Let me explain the system in Iran, most people get it wrong.
In the normal times there is a black list where users are not allowed to access certain hosts.
In the times of protests and unrest they move to a white list system where only Iranian IPs are accessible so it's not just certain services but all services that are hosted in Iran.
The white list is only applied to the network of normal Iranians so the servers and the hosts inside Iran still work on the black list system because it is necessary to acceess services that are not hosted inside Iran by them. So you can bypass the internet by getting a server inside Iran and a server outside Iran then you can use various tools like squid, shadowsocks, v2ray, and etc. and a tunnel between the two servers to bypass the national internet.
Edit: of course users are still subjected to package checking like it was explained in the video if your VPN doesn't have obfuscation feature then the ISPs will find out that you are using a VPN as it is very easy without obfuscation and block your connection. I recommend using RSA with any service that you use and performing a deffie-hellman on all connections. Basically a TLS. The last method if everything else was unable is to use ssh to forward the VPN or the proxy port to your localhost and then connect to it.
The bigger problem for Iran is the hardware, one of the reasons they can't ever compete with the worldwide internet is that we still don't have enough servers and low level computer softwares, and we're far away from the todays world technology
@@amiraloi1694 I’m here in the States just imagining a bunch of Iranians at a LAN party using old P2 machines playing Unreal tournament and sharing funny pics.
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@@markm0000 well it's not like that either, because we have lot's of pirated games if we have the hardware to play them! i usually try to use foss programs because most of them contain a russian spyware.
But we don't have regular connection with the rest of the world and that sucks because most of the times government spies on you and also their products suck as hell
And after that we have a really big problem making money because our currency's value is going down daily thanks to the government and that really really hurts.
Good to know. Very informative and intelligent! Thanks for sharing!❤
We can all thank Cisco with building China’s Great Firewall. I hope everyone remembers this.
Thanks Cisco for the global introduction of country-wide intranets!
Yeah well, we can also thank Cisco for inventing the router, a crucial piece of tech that helped make possible what the modern internet is today.
@@mutedmutiny9542 I thank Cisco’s founders for that. They were good people, and they left long before this happened. They didn’t leave on good terms either. They were kicked out because they didn’t want to rip of their customers, so their investors and Cisco’s board threw them out.
@@noonebeer that is all true but to me it’s a bit disingenuous to look at something positive a company did and then limit that to a couple of “good people” vs a bad thing they did and smear the entire company with it.
@@mutedmutiny9542 it’s even more disingenuous to ignore something really terrible that a company did just because you like their products.
Monitoring here in Australia, some protests had our government investigate protest organises. It has been happening all over the world.
exactly is naive to think only western countries are free
For China, on a trip I had in inner Mongolia pre-covid, I was able to watch RUclips/FB/Netflix just on China Telecom, merely because I purchased a 8GB data sim card from Hong Kong, and the firewall was completely bypassed without a VPN.
I remember that it felt surreal that I was literally in the middle of nowhere in grassfields, yet I had a consistently strong 4G signal on the road, and was enjoying RUclips as if I was in the middle of a city.
... and then Mainland China brutally took over Hong Kong later. and they attempted (and failed) to shut down access to things like Twitch because there was unfavorable news coming into the country that countered what was being spewed by CCP/government mouthpieces.
China maintains the illusion of access for as long as it is convenient.
2020 also showed that it will stop the exfiltration of data it finds inconvenient, and will resort to "disappearing" citizens to control information. As a result, today, whenever a notable scientist or politician dies in China we (outside of China) simply assume it was a State action to silence something they've done or will do, and we all assume China is an untrustworthy nation.
The only reason China can operate this way is her people are not free, and will never be free, and China wants to assert this same level of dystopian control internationally. This is why their companies are banned from implementing government infrastructure, for example the united states government will throw away entire machines just for discovering a _transistor_ used to build a mundane circuit was manufactured in China.
Zero trust.
take this down so they don’t patch ut
@@good-tn9sr It's designed that way, sim cards from HK/Macau gets to skip the firewall. Just surprised how well it worked in the wilderness of Mongolia.
Sure? It sounds like pinkie propaganda to please someone not living in China.
Anyway, it sounds amazing if someone dares to try again right now.
@@wilsonedwards8139 why would it be hard to believe there would be decent cell service in that part of China? It may be vast in terms of territory, but it's still got 25 million people.
Compare to Alaska. Alaska is only a bit bigger, yet has not even a million people, and cell service once you're outside of the anchorage metro and the touristy places in like the Kenai goes to crap or is non existent. Usually have enough to barely make a call or send a text, but definitely not streaming.
Not shilling for communism but facts are facts. They only reason they even can is precisely because they diluted their communism with capitalism in the first place.
It has never been “global” in the decentralization sense. Countries like China left the “global” internet, because it’s predominantly controlled by the United States. Social media is one of the examples to show why the decoupling is necessary. Then, the US is doing the same, for a similar reason. The US no longer has complete control over the dissemination of information. Fearing that the narratives go against their own, the US is also decoupling.
And so the Collapse of Globalism continues.
This is the most common sense comment I've seen under this video. Thank you.
This is only true if you consider Facebook, Instagram, etc as the internet. Before social media China had loads of internet users and they mostly produced and consumed Chinese made content due to the language barrier.
This is a step backwards, unquestionably.
Information war is similar to real war. If you are defending staying within the walls is much better than being on an open field but If you are attacking staying within the walls is pretty useless. From this analogy you can clearly see what is actually going on.
@@SineN0mine3 Well since the ''global internet'' here do largely composed of these several platforms owned by the US, This is still true by your standard. Language barrier alone won't get you rid of this monopoly over internet. This step backward was destined from the instance US decided to use this monopoly as a weapon.
Not only cutting internet but also censoring it to massive levels, many might have seen how internet has gotten really small.
Like here but censring other contents..
This is so jewish. This is the ADL’s wet dream.
very stupid thing to do
lmfao what's the difference between Government Censoring things or Corporations who are in bed with Governments censoring things?
Metal gear solid 2 anyone?
maybe it is not ‘global’ internet, but American internet from the beginning, and now people just realized how dangerous this can be.
Internet haven't been free for a long time.
true
Exactly!
Spot on. The illusion of totally equilateral flow of information that we all cherished was only ever real for information flowing between any two countries, excluding the US and provided that the US doesn't intervene to promote/throttle the outgoing traffic from one of the two. The relationship between the US and an other country was always heavily imbalanced and naturally favored the export and promotion of US culture.
Exactly. google and facebook run lot of American agendas in other countries.
This feels like we're entering a second cold war, a world divided in two
My thoughts exactly, only it’ll be digital.
@@andrewtodaro2874 I wish it was digital. It is economical and violent. The Ukrain war is a war between Russia and most of "the collective west".
Since almost everyone is in the digital world, it will slowly go into their real world.
What "two"? I can't even see the two blocs. Its all a geopolitical mess of alliances and counter-alliances. There are no clear boundaries.
Many
Makes me wonder if the global Internet was just a beautiful dream that was doomed from the start. 😞
It was a good idea until people noticed they could exploit it for profit and here we are.
If countries, both West and otherwise, continue to abuse it then it won't last
time to buy pied piper stock
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Internet was heavily abused by malicious actors on all parties. It was never meant to last, enjoy it while you have it.
You forgot S Korea inadvertently cutting itself off by charging foreign (and domestic) companies bandwidth traffic fees. The politicians here might actually be dumber than Americans.😂
What makes u think this is inadvertent? Nothing works better than controling things at financial level.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 it screws everyone, even the domestic companies. The government doesn't get the fees. The internet companies need to keep track and bill each other for what data goes through who's lines. It's horrifyingly stupid.
They obviously did it on purpose. You guys spend too much time playing video games 😂
You mean smart lol, not delibertly blocking, but incentivizing it financially
@@NeostormXLMAX incentivizing shutting down the entire internet throwing the economy into chaos? Right... The country was in chaos when KakaoTalk was down for a day.
Amazing video, Got to say this is a real relevant global commentary! Thank you
It was inevitable, once countries began making laws for internet. Why should India follow EU's laws or Russia follow Indian laws or US follow Chinese laws... They are sovereign countries.
well...GDPR is pretty nice to have, so i won't really oppose India needing to follow EU laws.
"We are a sovereign country" is code for "we want to violate you in our own way"
Sovereign is very important for countries china is doing a great job as far as I heard
@@andrewreynolds912 A great job censoring what they don't like. Spying on and sentencing whoever they don't like...
@@shapelessed true, but you also have an account of how much information the United States government controls. I mean, Meta, Google, etc. works with the CIA and such to find information and control info to other countries. The EU doesn't have media companies like Meta, Google, etc and my country the united states controls what goes in and out and dictates what they can and will hear I heard the EU has been in maybe possible talks of its own Network internet separate from America
Next video on the topic you should talk about what does it mean for international shared resources and standards on the internet, stuff like IP address allocation, domain names and certificate authorities.
This is depressing, it shows that we never got away from the "a small group of people doing stuff convenient to them and treating others like ants" system
That's how the non-Western world describes the Western world.
@@an_orange8911 no man, it's the whole world.
@@FAB1150 Exactly. People naively believe that "somewhere in the world" there is more freedom. It's too late to be talking about freedom at this point - we all let it taken away from us under the pretense that "anarchy is bad for you!" Except decentralized governance is not really a complete lack of any sort of order. People are just lazy to come up with alternatives to somebody making decisions for them and also fleecing them (or worse) in the process. As long as the system is centralized AND is controlled by a small group of human beings, this world will continue its journey down the drain (and as long as people keep shifting their responsibilities onto someone else).
@@robertmusil1107 China's dictatorship is nothing compared to how the US has the whole world under its heel.
@@getsideways7257 I... disagree quite strongly. I think I get what you're saying about people delegating decisions to someone else. But can you imagine what kind of hell it would be, to have to coordinate every single decision of public interest with the "people". "Where should we build a new highway, a new school- who will pay for it, what should we do about this problem or that" and so on and on. Reaching consensus would be impossible or could take forever. Some delegation is necessary, that's why most countries are (at least on paper) representative democracies. Obviously this representation doesn't always work flawlessly, but I can't see any other more efficient system that also takes public attitudes into account.
Also places with more freedom "somewhere in the world" definitely exist. It is no coincidence that a lot of people emigrate to the US, Western Europe, Australia etc, and basically no one to China, Russia and Iran. You could argue that it's just because they're rich. But this is (at least partially) because of good institutions that respect personal liberties and entrepreneurship. How can you found a new company or find a good job, when some authoritarian government can take everything away from you. I believe we shouldn't fall for this nihilistic "Oh you know, it sucks everywhere to some extent" and try to extend our freedoms. There have been great strides in personal liberties even in the last 20 years (e. g. equal rights for queer people).
TL;DR: Some hierarchy is probably required to organize society, but we shouldn't despair and should fight for our freedoms and oppose autocrats.
When it comes to avoiding Twitter users, one needs to self censor their own internet.
That's why I am not in Twitter. It's curse
@@theeternal6890 yes, twitter is full of cringe users
Don't worry, Elon Musk knew about this, that's why he bought Twitter, to kill it slowly.
I hope there is always enough demand for access to random things, that the trick of encrypting information yourself will continue to work. Steganography is a great way to bypass filters when encryption wouldn't work.
Amazing research on this topic! Thanks for posting
One thing worth stressing is that the general political atmosphere can have a big impact on how ISPs implement filters. For example, when the UK ISP I work for was told to start blocking certain Russian news websites, we took the position that we would not do so as we did not implement our own DNS.
Would we have done so if we lived in the sort of place where people get bundled into unmarked vans and never seen again - somehow I doubt it.
In the US?
@@florianfelix8295 The ISP I worked for was based in Britain. If that's not the answer, please elaborate on your question.
You mean like the rest of Europe? First thing they did when the conflict started was flagg Russian news sites as propaganda and block them.
Who issued the request. If it was serious then how can you just say no. why would it be DNS based when anyone can bypass that. Doesn't make sense.
I know if you access court ordered blocked torrenting sites that's done by ip by most isps. DNS is just for parental control stuff. Low effort.
UK needs a constitution that guarantees proper freedom.
My government could never ever order an ISP to do such a thing and the ISPs don't even know what we do on the internet all that would be unconstitutional.
They may run their own DNS Servers but those can't log user data and they can't run block lists on them.
My country Swaziland 🇸🇿 making the list for all the wrong reasons of shutting down the internet and committing atrocious acts of violence during the 3-day internet shutdown in 2021. That dark period taught us the goodness of having a VPN. Even to this day I always make sure that my VPN is on. I suffered some form of depression because of being cutoff the global internet. ☹️😰🥺
#Internetshutdown.
Thanks for this informative research bro.
Very informative video, I like your narrative style.
Could you please take the same point you discussed here and applied them to Starlink?
What would the government do if Starlink is operating
Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Western internet is TRASH
That was one nice thumbnail you made! (It may look a bit generic, but a big BIG improvement from your thumbnails from 2 years ago)
This is... Really sad and dystopian...
A damn shame. Wasn’t perfect, but free flowing information was what made the internet interesting.
@@Head_Turnah I wouldn't call it free in contrast I would that government are just waking up on how much control US has on the Internet and social media and how invasive it actually is to other countries for the benefit of the US military and government. And you can see that the countries that want to cut the control of US meddling in their countries are the ones that try it.
Of course that doesn't apply to every country that wants to have restrictions on the Internet but it will be for the better if more countries did it for their protection as it has no difference when the Internet is already dictate by the US for it benefits, in comparison when countries do it it has more" benefits " and security from outside meddling.
Thanks for your sharing
Ohh I really like this video. Great content for the masses. Excellent job at capturing what makes videos great.
At that point, the definition of whose internet is the global internet will also change
The usa wont have full control anymore
Exactly
Your mention of India is misleading. Blackouts in India were limited to a city or two at a time for 4G internet on mobile phones for a limited amount of time, only during some serious incident. Other phone and internet services were wrking fine.
not only that but the map used is incorrect..
Don't you see his colour
He is a CIA shill.
Even then the regime controls the content against their state religion.
When it comes to India, sometimes things are said without context or blanket general statements are made as if the whole country experienced blackouts - people fail to mention that only some specific regions experiencd it because the internet messaging apps and social media were being actively used to spread misinformation leading to violence. Also, rich countries like the US etc have much more sophisticated methods to control the internet and media in general. Hope people have heard of the Snowden revelations.
Agree India is so huge. A small city, section or region getting blacked out due to fake news especially fuelled by overseas actors from middle east or Pakistan or Chinese bots is extrapolated to the entire country. India has seen enough sustained campaigns of fake news and viral paid twitter trends majority tweets from overseas bots or paid actors causing havoc for citizens. And social media giants bases in USA have poked a thumb in the government's concerns and even supreme court orders. If they don't follow laws of India they are going to get docked for causing trouble in various parts of the country.
The Bengaluru incident
exactly , i was surprised to see india in red and thought , naah indian gov cant be that intelligent, but then he said backouts. another victim of western propaganda.
Exactly. People fail to understand how blackouts in a democracy are different from blackouts in an autocracy.
Not in Canada. They blocking well any info from outside . Like is NO world outside of that continent
About the 100+ regional blackouts in India, this has truly been a messed up time, but those blackouts were pretty localised and the goal was to completely deny internet access for the region temporarily (few days) rather than create an iron curtain like China. What's more messed up is the lessons India's learned from others, now the govt is planning to order all VPN services on Indian soil to hand over their data pertaining to traffic in the country. Not sure if that's come to pass yet but this is not a good time. Canada's Bill C-11 is also the kind of idea leaders here would love and dying TV giants would lobby for.
Very informative video 👍
Very misleading on Ethiopia
Thanks for this Information. Isolation is definetly increasing, not only for the Internet :(
Info on Ethiopia is wrong. I amin Ethiopia!
@@vahhidlelissa7653 are you really that afraid of america?
My Company uses a Proxy in each factory and the factories are connected via MPLS. Some employee from China figured out the IP from our Proxy in Europe and surfed on the Web via the european proxy. He/She searched for the wrong thing and our MPLS was cut within minutes in China citing "technical error".
The one thing that I find quite underdiscussed is the underlying technologies. TCP/IP doesn't really care what acts as a backhaul (copper, fibre optics, radio), basically anything which can be modulated can wrap IP packets. Look to things in the amateur radio scene like DX, Earth-Moon-Earth comms, Winlink, RTTY, APRS, Packet Radio et al. Unless a state-based actor can jam literally GHz of spectrum, A form of the "internet" will prevail
I suppose the point isn’t to completely remove all access to the ‘internet’, but to make it difficult to access/use for the layman.
If the country owns the physical infrastructure (your version of ‘backhaul’) then you’re already unable to access the ‘internet’.
People, especially younger people, don’t know anything about radio comms (me included 😅) so how would they set it up?
Also, the radio spectrum is already controlled by the state so they can and will jam radio comms.
Pls, correct me if I’ve misunderstood you :)
Using RF to transmit Internet packets is very low bandwidth for Amateur radio. You might as well just transmit voice. It's hard to stop people from listening to short-wave broadcasts.
Starlink. Once you get the hardware and Elon's blessing, governments can't do shit to you(except raiding your house ofc).
@@igorordecha Or shutting down Starlink...low Earth Orbit is owned by the UN...which is owned by the Security Council. Please realize we have space planes that go on unmanned missions for two years at a time. The Government is very powerful.
That's the first thing that came to mind as I was watching this.
it is kinda depressing to realize that the golden age of the internet is over (i think it ended somewhere between 2013 and 2017
Everything went downhill since they killed that gorilla
It ended when US manage to dictate the whole of the Internet . It's just that now I will say that government are just waking up on how much control US has on the Internet and social media and how invasive it actually is to other countries for the benefit of the US military and government. And you can see that the countries that want to cut the control of US meddling in their countries are the ones that try it.
Of course that doesn't apply to every country that wants to have restrictions on the Internet but it will be for the better if more countries did it for their protection as it has no difference when the Internet is already dictate by the US for it benefits, in comparison when countries do it it has more" benefits " and security from outside meddling.
@@thepersonwhoasked.. Tome III, Chapter 1: The catalyst was Gorilla
the decline started when the piping of the internet started to be privatised in the 90's and finished once the first social media networks became massive.
I hope we can make comeback in the future. New technologies enable new solutions to bypass like VPN's do now against most of the blocks. Maybe new wireless communication solutions can make wide mesh networks possible.
I have to disagree with you on the "load by default" method on foreign websites.
Back in 2006, i were in Canton (Guangzhou), China, at the trade fair.
In our hotel room, i tried to access our small website which were timed out.
Tried to access several times, without success, but after 10-15 minutes, like a magic wand did hit it, started to work quick and flawlessly.
I FELT (as a programmer) that someone actually clicked on the "approved" button after checking out our site.
I'm sure you are correct.
@@JustinWilliams-ed2ug These are called Russian hobbits. :)
Proof that the reason we don't live in a real high tech society is old rules and narrow minded politicians ☹️
You would be insanely pissed off to know the Level of technology being hidden and stolen from us.
don't forget mega corporations like big tech and bit oil
It's just the death panfs of the medieval fuedalists still scrabbling to maintain their authoritarian relevance.
It'll fall flat. You can't open up all the technocratic global innovations, and then just expect people to willingly accept a very narrow, watered down and filtered world.
It's like trying to tell people cars and jets don't exist, or can only be used on certain roads and flight paths.
Or it's like 1920's prohibition of alcohol. Free people will always chosse what is best for them, not laws or governments.
Our species didn't change because we have internet we're still homo sapiens
It's the era of information warfare... Protecting your own self is not bad.
It was inevitable that this was gonna happen.
Protect yourself with a good VPN
Thanks you!
Protection or control obsession ?
It is not "informational warfare"... in the past, people complain that this is a form of "colonialism"... well.. This is now an actual "biased unequal business deals on a global scale".... Everybody wants to sell to the other person. But when you have a single buyer.. but around 1 million seller.. across the globe. WHO do you choose? Which country? Why ? If you choose China.. you will annoy Pakistan. If you choose India... you will annoy Japan. Now... Think about that for a moment. Cos it happens everywhere.
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Hi TechAltar long time subscriber here.
Talking about blackouts you showed on the map that Russia used them. I don’t recall statewide blackouts ever happening.
Quick googling didn’t help me find sources.
Did that really happen?
35+ countries who represents the bulk of the world population, building fire walls is not cutting themselves off. What they are doing is isolating what they see (and should) as a problem (e.g. to prevent what happened to many countries in the middle east, South America and Africa from happening to them.) Companies like Facebook, twitter, google, BBC, CNN, and etc are all subsidiaries of each's respective governments. Which play a crucial roles in their foreign policies and secret service. Which, so far, have proven damaging to global peace and stability (as we witness non-stop conflicts arising through these programs.)
I.e. if foreign secret service and other government entities were setting up proxy companies to further their own goals here (in the United states.) We would do far worse. Infact, we likely already have done so to foreign companies- just for being from particular countries. Rather than doing so because of actual evidence proving foreign intrusion (such as what is globally known of what CIA, MI6, EED, NED and etc do around the world.)
I'm from India and the internet blackout is a nightmare here. For as long as 1 year or more. Leaving students without any access to any study material or even simple Google search. Often state wise this is done which completely blocks the cell towers not just internet .
Apart from Kashmir that too two years ago because of the security situation, tell me exactly where we have had blackouts ? Sad pathetic liar
Which state are you from?
@@thebestevertherewas J & K or the north east. Ruling party had blacked out most of the state after abolition of the article 370. My cousins had to stay on 2g and 3g for almost a year.
When it comes to India, sometimes things are said without context or blanket general statements are made as if the whole country experienced blackouts - people fail to mention that the internet messaging apps and social media were being actively used to spread misinformation leading to violence. Also, rich countries like the US etc have much more sophisticated methods to control the internet and media in general. Hope people have heard of the Snowden revelations.
not really, only problematic areas face blackouts, 99% of the country has never faced a blackout
Only global south manipulates internet
Meanwhile in corner
Canada laughs at bill c11
Us laughs at Trump ban
EU laughs at RT ban
Every country should have full control over its own internet assets and services. This is true democracy. And no other country should be able to interfere or spread propaganda against other country's will.
Sounds fair. Those 'country' people should be blocked from accessing the outside internet too. We don't don't want them here. They can keep their oil, gas and million year old civilization in their own soil.
From Western point of view this whole thing looks like simple censorship. But when you look at it from China's or Russia's perspective you understand why they are worried. Which government would like to hand over all the personal information of its citizens to other (and many times hostile) governments? Would the US be OK if every American citizen's eating habits, health issues, political orientations and everything in between were in the hands of the Russians? Even I, as a western, am not comfortable with the idea that everything I do on the web is known and monitored by Zuckerberger or the guys at Google. The internet is neither free nor global as it stands now; it's in the hands of a few Western "tech oligarchs".
Oh yea they are controlled so much by their RUnet that many of them cannot even tell why their government is attacking Ukraine all they say is based on the flow of information controlled by their government.
They can't say anything that is negative about the government their accounts get suspended or they land in prison , if someone is supporting Navalny they are tracked down either killed or thrown into prison.
And still majority of their tax money still goes to oligchars for new super yacht lol.
If the US was concerned about that it would've never created the Internet in the first place and export it to the rest of the world. I think the US was caught off guard by the Internet being used as a weapon it was initially something exciting in the US
The problem is since when has Russia, Iran, or China care about their citizens rights or safety they only care about power.
@@seanthe100 Rofl what? IT was designed for military use since its inception.
@@robertnomok9750 military use, but for the purpose of sending data over distances that was literally why the US created the Internet. It was for scientists to be able to send large amounts of data to one another. Espionage came later
Regarding India, the large blockade of Internet is not entirely true. These shutdowns are just on paper so that, most of these are just limited to removing some apps from Playstore while the others are easily bypassable by a VPN.
About blackouts most of these are limited to the state of kashmir due to security issues (b/w 400-700 terrorist attacks occur in this region an year on average so it's understandable) a few were implemented for a few days when ethnic fights occurred in some states.
It's far underrated. Do your research the blackout has been not in just one state but in Kashmir, Jammu Asaam, West Bengal, Bihar. For as long as 10months. Also these are accessible to certain political parties indicating that the leaders can choose who to isolate. It's techAltar not some freaking show that can't differentiate between blackout and app blockage.
@@hiareeb Nonsense. J&K and Assam have terrorists. West Bengal has a well known history of post-election violence which is more often than not organized. Its clear why blackouts are implemented for public safety and against anti-national elements in India. Only over-ground workers like you who work to give intellectual cover to terrorists and separatists under the garb of "humans rights" say otherwise. What you forget is that terrorists have no human rights.
@@hiareeb all these states have terrorist/ naxal issue. So it doesn't matter.
@@hiareeb : lol... i'm from West Bengal and i never faced blackout or anything like this, except slow internet sometimes... U r a liar !!..
brainwashed by godi channels
Its like that Bender meme... "Fine! I'll make my own internet, with blockers & blackouts"
Splinternet is a two way stream, basically all countries should be marked red.
credit democracy
No. Only countries like yours. Majority of the countries have at least Facebook and RUclips.
@@MladenDjukic
Welcome back and welcome back to the good old soviet times. Just for you.
This was fantastic
Thanks!
This was inevitable. The nations that did not have the knowledge, infrastructure or personnel to roll out their own networks paid those that did for assisting with their network rollouts and over time acquired whatever they lacked. Now they can push the technology where they want it to go within their own borders. Our cultural expectations around the globe are simply not fully compatible and now that it is possible for nation states to control the flow of information, that is what will happen.
@@vlc-cosplayer Name checks out.
Absolutely nailed it on the forehead. The kind of equilateral globalization (for everyone besides the pioneering US, that was mainly exporting culture than importing) we lived through up until now, was only made possible because it was technologically accommodated by a single, ideological-world-domination aspiring party - the US. None but the US itself could readily impose restrictions on the flow of information, and for the most part, they didn't even need to. Then, even if they did, they had to jump over some major legislative hoops to do it. Now, with enough countries rising to the tech level required to support an independent internet infrastructure, the completely natural tendencies of each state to protect its own interests by restricting the flow of information across their borders can actually manifest in the form of firewalls and local services mirroring the capabilities of their international counterparts. The internet concept was destined to reach this state of existence.
Hello from Russia. Just want to say that I really doubt that our government would be able to fully isolate the whole country. Nowadays, the internet is a part of everyone's life so moving in our servers may take years upon years, let alone preparing those servers and PROPER testing, not just "they didn't explode after a day of work in a small town, we good" stuff. And I don't think the servers will last long. If a russian sees a hole, they will get as much profit from it as possible and make it big enough so a lot of people could have fun either, LOL. And modern censorship needed to grow stronger and start blocking VPN so we... could continue using VPN and even spread the info about how to make such a service yourself. So... yeah, it will definitely take a while.
P. S. I read a few comments about Russians not knowing why Ukraine is being attacked. There's more than enough info about anything you like, bypassing censorship is still not so difficult - it's just the people that do not want to gain it; you know, living in a small info bubble where you are always liked and can say as awful thing abouts the opposition as possible, just like the flat Earth believers. And, unfortunately, those are usually the ones that scream louder than anyone else.
Hey, can you do a second video that discusses the potential positive aspects of the splitnernet?
It has 0 positives, video is not required
I can think of 1. Sensorship of explicit content. Internet doesn't come with warning labels.
Really informative video. Smaller nations have begun to employ IPX to control the internet when the authorities deem it necessary.
That was something that people should have seen before putting restrictions on contents. For instance, take a look at any SM post and you would see left censoring right and vice virsa. Not just that, in a lot of "free countries" is US and EU a lot of Chinese sites are banned/restricted. While on forums anyone with some different views are targeted.
Many used to argue that countries restrict internet to people in oppressive countries to control the population, But none consider the fact that whenever you see a lone, Chinese or Russian on sites disagreeing with the western perspective of their countries they are banned or labelled sympathizer or something that the audience considers convenient. You can make the argument, that they are parroting their govts propaganda but the same can be said for you.
Anyways, i used to argue that those who say that China should open up its population to internet , would be the first ones to complain about it. You barely see a chinese citizen on the internet, yet when they come out and share their POV, everyone resorts to labels, insults and attack them. Now imagine if the 1.4billion Chinese got connected to the internet and lets just say half of them started sharing their content and their perspective and started calling out western content and defending their countries policies. Imagine if Vox, VICE type Chinese channels appeared on RUclips and started making similar videos, would they stick on RUclips or be censored? Remember Half of Chinese population is still similar to US+EU population. Most of the people would just be annoyed by the Mandarian text.
The day countries controlling the firms decided to dictate the platform policies, the internet died. You can all blame China or Russia for cutting off their population, but if they didnt do it, US/EU would have censored content from those countries themselves.
You have some valid criticisms.
Pretty short sighted, there are already ginormous spanish/protuguese/hindi and formerly Russian speaking communities on the “open” Internet and yet they barely interfere with the English ones. To the whole censoring argument I strongly disagree, lash back first of all is very different than censorship and happens pretty much anywhere you share your opinion. Actual censorship on the other hand is much rarer, just look at Trump who had years and years of spouting misinformation and only at the very end was banned. Try that on Chinese social media with any controversial viewpoint and not only will that get deleted but you’re also heavily affecting you’re chances in real life.
I will say that government are just waking up on how much control US has on the Internet and social media and how invasive it actually is to other countries for the benefit of the US military and government. And you can see that the countries that want to cut the control of US meddling in their countries are the ones that try it.
Of course that doesn't apply to every country that wants to have restrictions on the Internet but it will be for the better if more countries did it for their protection as it has no difference when the Internet is already dictate by the US for it benefits, in comparison when countries do it it has more" benefits " and security from outside meddling.
You can even see that every opinion that counters the western narrative about the Russian invasion of Ukraine is automatically censored and labeled as misinformation, so you definitely have a point here
Argument falls apart because India exists. With millions of non-english speaking internet users too. There's plenty of Hindi language Indian nationalists online that we don't see as we don't speak the same language. That's not blocked is it now.
Thank you for talking about Iran. Protests are on going in Iran and it's very hard to connect to the Internet.
@TechAltar Your thumbnail is wrong, the island of Taiwan doesn't belong to the PRC (and never has).
I love this, I need with this
There are some regional ISPs in India which uses DPI, mine started doing couple of months ago on all torrent websites. Either you use a VPN or Tor or wait till 'weekend' when they remove all website censorships.
Green Tunnel psst psst
What is DPI?
@@flashflash6787 deep packet inspection
Modi has now indirectly banned VPN in India too. What he did was ask the VPN’s to store all the data and make the user identity and the website the user accesses using VPN available for current Indian government which basically meant VPN would not be of any use.
@@themihirshah is there any way to bypass that? Like using Tor or something
Yes depressing indeed. But we have internet censorship here in the uk. Virtually all Russian news media has been censored. And if you look at things from the other countries perspective, the internet as a whole is pretty much under at least the influence of Washington and if a country see’s Washington as hostile to them it’s wise to be able to have a functional internet if Washington decides you are going to be shutdown
This channel is shilling for american media, they never cover censorship of the west,
Banning goverment sponsored news sites is not the same as dictatorships banning the whole internet. I see no problem with banning specific propaganda mouthpieces of Putin, afterall, we also censored Dr. Goebbels in the UK and no one argues that this act hurt our freedom of information.
@@davidduszek709 who decides which are the ‘mouthpieces’? Where does it stop? What are you scared of hearing from these sources?
@@davidduszek709 - Pretty much all western corporate media are the mouthpieces of corrupt western political systems. You’re one of those dopes who still thinks the West are the good guys.
@@sylviam6535 do you have any hard evidence that, let's say, the Reuters is directly influenced by corporations in the same way as the People's daily is influenced by the CCP?
Are you seriously trying to compare mainstream western media to the Chinese or Russian state media, which are casually calling their presidents "Supreme leader"?
I'm from Iran and from the get-go I knew you would mention my country like 20 times during the video :D
That's a smart move in iran's part, creating their own version of google and facebook and youtub and telegram... Is a great and smart move
Good for Iran!!
@@ProckerDark It might be
but forcing people to use those alternatives overnight without any competitive advantages is a horrible move
@@rainnchen9632 it has LOTS of bad consequences which are not mentioned
I think Iranians can go to Chinese websites,
Think of it that way, after the TikTok instant, it is crystal clear that each country wants full control of everything. it just happened that the majority of the companies are Silicon Valley based.
RUclips is so censored now you can't even describe a woman that is fat as fat... 🧐
This is misleading. The Internet blackout in India were regional( Small cities and town). Internet only cut down due to Terrorist activities and Communal tensions.
*My own city Udaipur was cut off from internet for 5 days due to a homicide by men with terrorist link. People were so angry that they were going to attack family of murderers. So Government ban Internet which was helpful to stopping violence* .
He's European. He has zero idea about our situation on inside. He's just reading the black and white data with no reasoning.
Okay fyi
India does have more internet blackout
But the blackout wasn't imposed all over the country
90% of the time it happens in the j&k state because it's a sensitive state with international border clashes
I was genuinely shocked by looking at 1000+ number and not experiencing more than 2
@TechAltar, I found a small typo in this video fragment 11:10
Runet is the Russian segment of the Internet in cultural terms. And the independent closed network is called Cheburnet. On behalf of Cheburashka, a character from a Soviet book
Cheburnet is the unofficial mock name, not any official term
You missed internet based attack by other countries if you are not independent Like internet based financial services denying .
Exactly
me from ethiopia who didnt know that we had 18month blackout watching this 0.0
I am in Somalia! Hi brother! I didn't know you guys are starting to leave the internet
i just heard that we had been in an 18month blackout today, damn I must be imagining things.
In syria we have 2 kind of Internet black outs, and I'm not sure of one of them because I wasn't living in syria at the moment... the first one is the school final exams black out, the most annoying because when I need the Internet it's just not available since 5am until 11am when exams end, this kind of black out is just to avoid people cheating on exams and they also ban phone calls and messages in those 5 hours, this only happens for a month until the bakaloria degree is finished, tho this year wasn't that bad, they were more flexible... and the second kind of black out I assumed was in war times... also Syrian IP is banned from some online services because of sanctions so we use vpn to use Google play store and some services like epic games store and other websites but Google services are avaliable always, and one good thing is that I don't get any kind of youtube adds because of it, Internet in syria is flexible and that's a good thing because I can still have access to many pages including CNN and BBC, but the one we can't access are because of sanctions
"still have access to many pages including CNN and BBC" not sure if we can consider having access to these propaganda websites as a plus point. 🤣
They used to do deep packet inspection in Tunisia but it slows the web down enormously.
The US does motivate the splinternet though, with it's effective information war abilities to regime change foreign governments, for better or worse. Other countries probably do it too, to try to trigger or feed protests that might bring down governments that are deemed unfriendly, even if those governments are popular or popularly elected.
Yes, the US has caused this splinternet. The last riot in India where a separatist terrorist group did an insurrection on Republic Day 2021. And the source of misinformation which said Indian govt was planning a genocide originated from the USA and on platforms owned by the US like Twitter.
This video is part of info war on Ethiopia. I am using the internet freely in Ethiopia! But the dude lies that we have an ongoing months long black out. Wrong on many levels. We have had NO blackouts this year. And blackouts in years past lasted at most days!
What does the US have to do with the rest of your comment?
@@vahhidlelissa7653 Press F to doubt.
Never seen to be happening for "better" but only worse.
This makes me think Tor is going to actually become the new Internet.
Exactly! It'll just push things into hidden channels.
Like 1920's prohibition it's destined to fail.
This is just the last desperste pangs of the medieval tyrants trying to cling on to the world that was where they could lie, cheat, steal, and kill without the rest of questioning the lies.
The open communications go hand in hand with innovation and trade.
Innovation declines within insular bubbles.
Stay free! 👍✌️
I used it just to find stuff that isn't allowed in the "normal" net
Well it surprised me, i indeed found some fucked up stuff lol
BBS and phone may do a comeback? I know that when I had a BBS with Frontdoor there was much traffic i some odd image groups, according to some those fractal like images did contain text or messages. To block phone calls within a country may be harder and even harder to ban image formats like PCX.
The ban has to be perfect. It just has to discourage people enough. If it takes twenty minutes of fiddling around to access EU or US news sites, most people would just read a Chinese site instead.
Also when Australia and New Zealand banned certain sites and users during a certain incident in NZ.
That was done by certain ISPs, not the government. Other ISPs didn’t block.
@@sylviam6535 I think its fair to assume that governments were making the requests, although its important to not that ISPs were allowed to decline the requests.
I imagine in some places those requests come with an asterisk that says "or else".
@@SineN0mine3 - Many times they do pressure them, but this it actually seemed to be more voluntary. I know of one ISP that never really blocked anything and they are thriving, so there were no repercussions. The ISPs that did it implemented it in a fairly basic way via DNS, so it was easy to circumvent by using a different DNS entry/service.
Cyberpunk 2077 is becoming more and more realistic
We've been heading this way for a long time, which is why it seems like Pondsmith was so prophetic.
Ten years ago, people cared about this stuff and would fight to protect it. These days people are scared of the internet and want big brother to keep them safe. Ten years from now, they'll be living in bubbles and desperately searching for a way out.
Irl cyberpunk 2077
@@SineN0mine3 It's like Cyberpunk but swapped, instead of corpos it's the government's, just see what happens in Iran.
India has no plan to disconnect from global internet. However it can monitor data to and from in it's sovereign interest. And it can't fully compromise on data security.
Indians are the worlds largest consumer of p0rn. Without access to real women, massive unemployment, highest number of male virgins, the most repressive society, India will have civil war or they all will invade Bangkok.
But we have to control our internet .... outside world not so friendly to india
in Sudan during the last protests during 25 October 2021 coup, the Junta block all the Internet for entire 2 months except for all banking systems and the Terrestrial Internet was completely open but for for users who are registered as enterprises and organisations not as individuals in their Internet provider database.
Iran: we have the internet at home
The internet at home:
Wow, what an informative presentation! Great job😊
here in Iran, the thing knows as "internet" doesn't exist here anymore because the blacklisted websites and sevices basically contain almost all global messaging and social media platforms. even youtube is blocked and we can only access it through VPNs. and in the times of social unrest and protests this goes even further, and shapes the "intranet". which basically means only websites that are hosted domestically can be accessed. so even VPNs aren't usable and the workarounds are too technical for an average user, you can't even use google during this time. of course if shit really hits the fans the still tend to click the off button altogether (this is happening right now at several cities).
and they're pushing for more, they're trying to replace all foreign services with garbage domestic alternatives (which are all spywares btw). each day, more and more VPN protocols are being blocked and the global bandwidth is getting lower and lower.
Sounds like the Great Firewall of Iran is worse than the Great Firewall of China.
This is also what people should understand about this level of government control, even if you have "pinhole access" to things today (like Indonesia, China, others) it facilitates a future where you have NO ACCESS for any reason... and what then, the only information you can get is the information the tyrants in control of your nation say is okay? "Our truth is the only truth, even when it's not the truth." Sounds terrible. Scary.
As an IT worker of 30+ years I've interacted with numerous other IT workers out of UAE and while that doesn't represent the whole of the middle east I've had interactions that made it abundantly clear that the West is billed as thieves and liars, and that everything we (citizens) believe is a lie, and that what is said on local television, paper, and internet in the middle east is the actual truth. When you are exposed to this you realize that the level of information control on the middle east must be incredible. (... and that's not to say American media does not spew lies, oh God save us all, does it ever! Just not in the ways and to the degree that people elsewhere would believe.)
The only place worse IMO would be North Korea where people also live in fear that they might get caught "hearing" alternative news from someone that has travelled internationally :( that there is a nation where people live in "fear of knowing" is just horrific to say the least.
If the government was smart, they would have let people vent their frustrations on the internet.
Stay strong
@@AR-rg2en Tell RUclips to allow that first.
You should be grateful that your govt is trying their best to control the propaganda influx into your country that is trying to create a social uprise to topple your present govt in the name of "freedom".
Every information has its influence. Whether it's theory of evolution or curvature of earth, they may look known facts to us but are controversial in some part of world and internet, that's why every group tries to manipulate information to its own bias no matter how subtle it is
Rajasthan (a indian region) cutting internet of entire state (region) just to prevent question papers leake during highschool exam atleast twice a year
Hey TechAltar, pls whats the World Map you used in the start of the video ?
The most basic control they use for us is Language..... them religious..... and so on
Routers machine profiles in wood pieces. A home DiY router in North America contains a 3/4 hp motor, as it draws less than 15 Amps at 110 volts.
Can't tell if you're joking or a bot
Best news channel ever. Keep doing what you do 🙂
DPI is getting more and more inefficient as TLS encryption is becoming more and more the norm.
TLS encryption does transmit vital one piece of information in plaintext: The server host name. Even with the latest protocols. It's required so that the server knows which certificate to negotiate with, as a server may host multiple websites.
I have a hard believing India would do that, there’s a huge amount of Indians engineers and scientists and the country is becoming a reference in tech. Indian economy is booming and living standards are getting better over the years. It wouldn’t make sense for their government to suddenly cut the country off, they would effectively push their qualified workforce to immigrate.
Because of protesters . India is not as peaceful as it's seen . More than billion peoples live their with different ethnicity religion language and so on .an authoritarian government will definitely try to control the internet
china did it and saw THE fastest economic development in human history
I am an Indian and well it's already happening.
Indian here. Most of these blackouts happen in the Kashmir region over restricting separatists high speed internet to organize. Wider Kashmir was in 2G speeds for more than a year iirc before the pandemic. Apart from that, Blackouts can occur during mass protests which almost always has some degree of mass violence also involved.
I personally believe that the Internet shouldn't be blocked. Censorship is minimal in the day to day, but Defamation lawsuits are thrown by the ruling party folks whenever it gets too hard for them to answer descent from individuals. Also Porn is blocked as a reactionary measure whenever some gruesome sexual assault happens and becomes headlines.
There is an independent app and tech ecosystem here but I don't believe the government plans to form a Spilnternet anytime soon.
Hope my country can do this as well.
Strange thing, I have a webpage , and it was not visited some time and suddently people from every part of the world came to see it, one visit from every part of the world (alaska, russia, africa,...). Does the internet really work or only the content is copied one time and connection "closed"?
Indian here, it's not that bad currently, blackouts are mostly reasonable and area specific (most of them are in kashmir). But, there's a new draft bill proposed very recently, a part of which worries me that they want it the splinternet way in future.
... just wait for the same controls to be used to target castes, rather than locations, services, or content.
I understand India wanting to protect itself from being hacked technologically, but that's not the same as blocking information flow (for whatever reasons.)
@@sexyplexie castes but how? can you explain your logic
@@sexyplexie dude. What? Castes are people that live between...other castes. You can't actually target them specifically.
Also, Kashmir deserves it tbh. There are no excuses for that place unless you are up to negotiate with terrorists.
@@harshjain3122 so you're saying Kashmir shouldn't be allowed to have access to the internet just like they shouldn't be allowed to be indipendent?
@@Enrico- dude.. before understanding the entire situation no one should comment on such sensitive situation.. everyone here shouting everything to be perfect shows the flawed mentality.. they support non binary gender but avoiding the fact the world is non binary.. everything is not black and white
Russian & Iranian citizens : 'Can we have the internet?'
Their authoritarian leaders : 'No, we have the internet at home.'
Westerns citizens : 'What is a woman? is covid vaccines working? the Jews'
Their authoritarian leaders: 'Blocked, banned, canceled.
Internet at home...FREE from toxic Western influence.
Their -authoritarian- sovereign leaders: "Yes, but without Western interference".
Isn't the US government throwing a fit over tiktok right now lmao. China is "censoring" good willed US companies while US "protects" against evil chinese companies right? Most hypocritical place in the world
Thats a great THUMBNAIL
+ Saudi and UAE restricting internet (many VOIP services and other sites blocked) also VPN use is interfered with 😢😮
VLC website is unblocked in India 5 days ago
why did that even happen lol
@@thetaomega7816 no fucking clue... But yeah it was a thing for few days
*Months
are you really that afraid of offending America?
Freedom of the internet also led to abuse of the internet with peddling of incompatible ideologies and narrative.
The solution will be very simple each country has to build a country-wide network and the countries you trust to connect and deal with.