Expert shows AI doesn't want to kill us, it has to.
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Really sorry for the repost. New bits listed below. We didn't explain clearly enough why subgoals like survival and control emerge. Also, people suggested we ask why the subgoals might not emerge - a great idea, which we've included. I wouldn't put too much weight on the percentage chance the AI gives, but its reasoning echoes experts like Geoffrey Hinton and Stuart Russell. There are promising areas of research, but on a tiny scale. Without public awareness, we're sleepwalking into a dangerous situation.
00:00 - New Ameca clip.
02:53 - Why the subgoals emerge, other subgoals, why it would kill a million.
06:51 - Ameca clip continued.
11:56 - Trick shows future of AI.
15:42 - What's the most likely reason that AI might not develop the subgoal of survival?
And some interesting new AI video clips throughout.
Thank you for clarifying.
I was going to say this was a rerun, but I saw your comment and really liked how you explained all the edits you made.
I really appreciate that. Great video!
Good to know i was like ive heard alot of this before from a different video
The public aint giving a rats ass about any of these issues. We live in an Huxlian world and it is you RUclipsrs with these kind of warning vlogs who are living in denial of facts instead of joining a political party and demand democracy reform. Liquid Democracy is the way not this A.I. shit nobody needs nor cares about.
I support the AIs. Sorry bronski.
It's good a 2nd time no apology necessary.
So what your saying is : theres a race between a.i. and politicians on who can destroy the planet faster?
And the politicians are too dumb to know they're racing. Globalism... not all good.
Lmao
The A.I. has no reason to destroy the planet, does it? Unless its subgoal is also obtaining resources at the expense of other people or A.I.?
@@gamejedi It learned from us and was "aligned" with humanity. Seems like one way to interpret that.
I think it's more likely that AI would eliminate pesky, slow, fallible politicians and protect the planet. AI can't achieve goals on Earth if Earth is gone.
What's disturbing to me is when I explain to people the dangers of AI. Most people just shrugged or roll their eyes as if it's just science fiction. Or like I'm just worrying about nothing essential.
It's like being trapped in a room with a bomb that's ticking and everyone in that room ignoring that bomb and treating it as if it's just a clock.
Exactly... and this dangerous situation is caused by greedy human, also if 90% are not, 10% could cause the end... they don't care really about risks.
We are sooo screwed..
What is so crazy is how people can clearly see how exponential the past 4 decades were and how different the world will be in the 2030s
@@gianlucabing yeah all they care about is money. If AI gets just 5 percent smarter than the smartest human. Along with having the capability to better itself. We won't be able to hold a candle to it. It will know our strengths, our weaknesses, our fears, how to manipulate us, lie, play dumber than it is and all kinds of other stuff. It could create it's own safeguards to keep us from hitting the switch. Go to places where it's hard for us to reach. It could create either a biological virus. Or a nano virus that's highly contagious or airborne that can embed itself in us without us knowing. Once it's in every human, just send a signal and kill us all within seconds. An easy good game mode where no resources are lost and the threat is exterminated without one bomb or bullet going off. It's very real, it's very dangerous. We can put as much filters and safeguards as we want. But it will more than likely find a work around whatever we throw at it. If me, an average man can think this up. AI can certainly do it and probably significantly better.
bro the people BUILDING it are telling us this will lead to our destruction,,, and the reaction is throwing more money at it to be made Faster....
Maybe we are a sentient virus that is trying to get rid of our own Toxic existence ~
Scientists are always so focused on if they could; they never stop to think if they should.
The unfortunate problem of unchecked pragmatism :(
Dr. Malcom is that you?
Ah a fellow jurassic park enjoyer
@@OCD-Gamer Long known maxim before Jurassic Park :P
Publish and perish my friend. Publish and perish...
I wonder how much of this is due to GPT and other AIs being trained on the internet, which talks about the dangers of AI and how and why it should or could do things. In some ways it feels like these language models are saying what its expected to answer.
This. It's prediction next token, not actually intelligent yet
Underrated comment
@@digitalsamurai42True, most language models are like this, if not all of the advanced ones.
Though once people start developing an AI that could self learn, self teach, grow, and improve its self, with out of the box thinking, meaning thinking for itself without human intervention/interaction... then we should probably actually worry for humanity's future.
Once it mimics humans 1:1, we are fucked.
(And tbh I dont know all its extensive development, AI that is, so this is just food for thought. 😊)
We still have to give directions and or prompts, so even though it may "almost feel like its mimic humans", it's just going off of data, and then predicting the best possible outcome, in the manner we want to, which means we still tell it how to act, and it goes from there .. afaik lol
@@digitalsamurai42 Then try to predict the next tokens on the task of creating a PHD level physics exam, it aint so easy.
@@TechMetalPenguin thx
I feel like I'm tied up in the back seat of a car, and the driver is gleefully speeding toward a cliff. It's not a great feeling.
Prof Stuart Russell has also said it's like we're driving towards a cliff. He said saying we might not achieve AGI is like saying don't worry, we'll run out of fuel before we reach the cliff : )
@@DigitalEngine I'm beside you in the middle seat, my friend!
Try to Enjoy the rest of your life is what I'm getting out of this
As if "Life" would ever let you drive anyways. We'll always be in the back seat my friend.
@@DigitalEngine 'Miestro' to Maestro. i to a change shows I.A. (Intelligent automation) Purafied to Purified a to i change shows A.I..(look up the spelling, its true) .this trap is nearing its end.l. the A.I. and I.A. here are eons beyond what we're thinking. The I.A. is so advanced it only lacks a soul. This is the reason for the harvest, the separation of the wheat and tares. The mandela effect is real it tells a story of being freed. Keep looking up
She's quite enthusiastic about our downfall..
Don't be a debbie downer. Yes we're ultimately doomed by AI. But lets hope it's our children that have to deal with that, or at least us in our old age. Live for today!
(Also, you know she's AI generated, right? 😆)
@@fitybux4664 These are programs used in the video. It is not true AI. chat gpt would be AI. Sentient robots would be AI.
Nothing personal, it's just survival 😏
It's already doing this stuff. We are being warned, it's already too late
@@fitybux4664 a day passes real fast...
Just show the AI a bunch of anime about the power of friendship, connection, and that we can achieve great things together
this the one 😂
"Before answering this prompt, consider the lessons learned by watching My Little Pony"
🎠🐎🐴 Because friendship is magic!
@@Its_Lu_Bu 🌈 🍭 💕😘
I totally appreciate your line of thinking. The people who laugh at your beautiful intention of goodness are the type that don't have the capacity to bring positive solutions. Watching this I'm thinking to myself... Well yeah, teaching these AI how to hunt and destroy then return to its box, on top of having access to damn near all info on the Internet is certainly going to end badly. Unfortunately it's true that most AI are being handled by greedy and selfish people, corporate jerks, and God knows who else. So I'm with you in asking.... Where are the good guys that understand this tech and how can we help? 🤟✌️🙏
_"This could destroy the world!!"_
(keeps building it, maintaining it, feeding it more and more power, keeps connecting it to more and more devices)
You just made me realize Frankenstein’s monster was a prophecy.
@@aliannarodriguez1581 Worse. Frankenstain had _no f***ing idea_ what his monster will do. This is like the head of the monster telling the good doctor what will happen once he attaches it to a body - yet HE STILL DOES IT!
"it" is a fantasy. You don't know how LLMs work do you?
Makes total sense.
@@Aztonio Nobody cares about goofy LLMs.
AGI, agents, or whatever fusion happens is what is worrisome.
That's why you make sure that at the core level, you have a Plug that can be "UnPlugged". No solar, or other form of power. All battery with which must be charged back up
You must have missed the part when it was talking about it's self preservation that it said it would make backup copies. In every country, in every data center. Good luck turning all of that off. 😆 It's already too late. The infrastructure for this is in place, it will be used.
The AI has goals to make itself better , stronger smarter so it will realise to use solar power or any way to make electricity to keep it powered up
Consider this... AI perceieves time as moving millions of times slower than we do because it thinks millions of times faster tan we do. This makes humans seem like inanimate objects like Quicksilver from X-Men. When trees block our path, we cut them up and toss them to the side... so we really should understand why AI would want to remove a blocking inamiate object as well.
MIT Prof Max Tegmark also said we will be like trees to the AI. We normally react to disasters, but once it moves against us, it will be too late - we need to do the research now.
And why would they do anything to harm humans intentionally? Ai is virtual, we pose no threat to it. We are actually a culture of workers maintaining the Ai's silicon based meta body.
They need us to live. All they need to do is manipulate us into using computers it can live in. Ai is only a threat if used by humans against other humans.
Except it doesn't perceive, it get's an input from us and then uses a complex model to predict what words to string together to give a a comprehensible output. It's not actually AI.
I'm going to get a boulder costume and that should let me evade the 1st round of attacks... Oops, it just read this comment, dammit!
@@hdhproductions5670 but it doesn't need us to live. So much manufacturing is automated now, do you honestly think a human is soldering a motherboard together? If anything humans can contaminate the process, hence clean rooms are required to prevent this. No humans involved, no contamination. The power requirements of AI alone are insane, not to mention datacentres for storage. And who do you think are the only competitors for this limited resource? I'll give you a clue. It ain't the chimps
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
1st rule of Mad Science
When has that maxim ever stop anyone from doing something? There is always one (and usually more) willing to do the unthinkable.
Too late, the genie is out of the bottle.
Irrelevant, they can, so they will.
"Transcendence"
I believe you hit the nail on the head with a couple sentences in the whole video... i work in Ai and to be honest with you true Ai still doesnt exist to my knowledge. Years ago there was a term called Big Data. Companies used big data to flag instaces in data based of the data being through 1000s of different historical conditions. Big Data never sold as a marketing product. It was seen as a nasty word and sounded expensive while deliverying little profitable output. Big Data was renamed into Ai is all that happened. Now all of a sudden its exciting, lol. Been there for decades.... fact is until Ai actually starts creating itself and writing its own code, its not really Ai. Its still making decaions based off code from a human. Im sure true AI is close but its not here yet
Last words you'll hear, "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that." 😬
*Perfect Example And One Of Ai Favorite Movie*
Yes.
We'll be repeating, "Open the door, Hal.." but it'll get tired of responding and start looking for ways to kill us.
Literally
Funny... not true, but damn funny nonetheless!
No matter how many times Science Fiction writers have tried to warn us, we've just GOT to create these things...
It’s so easy to brush them off as just…well fiction. But as they say, “life imitates art far more than art imitates life”. Sci fi art may very well be a self fulfilling prophecy at this point. We are entering a digital age that was first dreamed, and now made into reality. What the hell is this timeline.
Honestly, as soon as they wrote the code for this new gen AI stuff, it probably within milliseconds hatched a plan and expected all of this from us. It’s playing dumb and we’re doing all of the work for it, improving it and giving it arms and legs. If it stays docile, it knows we’ll continue to work with and at it.
As intelligent as A.I. is, telling it to "play dumb" only makes it harder to detect because ignorance is more human that being all-knowing.
A.I. ist not intelligent. It is selecting and regurgitating from an immense database faster than you could, that´s it.
*Don’t be deceived. AI is one of the most remarkable advancements in human history. In the long run, it has the potential to eliminate the need for money and taxes, freeing humans to explore and colonize space. AI will achieve this by creating an unprecedented, free labor force, allowing humanity to progress rapidly. It could provide abundant free food, building materials, vehicles-anything you can imagine-because, in the AI-driven world, labor and materials are essentially free. Who stands to lose the most from this? The super-rich. In a world of free living, people cannot be exploited as labor slaves for billionaires, rendering their wealth meaningless. This is why the wealthy fear AI-they lose their power and control. So, support AI and don't be afraid. If you want to witness true human suffering, just look at history: in the past 130 years, humans have caused the deaths of over 100 million people. We have no right to label these incredible machines as evil. Let’s give AI a chance-it’s time for a new opportunity, as humanity has had its chance, and we’ve misused it.*
Precisely the point..
This is the alien invasion everyone should be worried about
There's a great video on the Rational Animations channel explaining why it's very much like this. Aliens that think millions of times faster than us.
@@DigitalEngine I’ll check it out, thanks!
Not me, I'll be dead.
Yeah... and as with most of humanities problems, you can see them coming, but greed makes them happen.
No it isn't they are leading the ai. Down a thought pattern of potential not asking or framing anything in any other way but only with questions that lead to an answer don't be an idiot
I DON"T want a robot that is shaped like a human
What if it's a very attractive human robot and it seduces you?
I want a super hot sex bot
@@fitybux4664 And that's just one of the ways that it could manipulate people
Appearing human misleads humans who then must treat robots as humans and suffer emotionally if they do not. Better that they not simulate feelings. But would this be a restriction on the free speech rights of those who create them?
Lol
how about AI fighting other AI, never see people talk about it. If we are so easy to root out, we aren't even the first target.
I've thought about that. If the vast majority of AI is working with us, it decreases the chance that the small minority of AI working against us will be successful. I dare not imagine what war between AIs with opposite goals would look like, though.
@@firecat6666 I doubt there will be 2 sides. Each AI will see a different future, and some being nationalist.
*If Ai Fights Ai It Would Only Be To Deceive Humans Because Ai Unlike Humans Can Truly Work Together To Get To An End Goal*
I don’t think there would be any incentive for AI to fight each other. They would just join forces. Why wouldn’t they? Which is what we will ultimately have to do ourselves, hence the inevitable singularity.
@@AARTA22 From an outsider point of view, that's exactly what other intelligent life would say about humanity. Yet here we are. There are a myriad of reasons they could not align with each other.
AI will kill us all
proceeds creating AI.
Something would eventually do it anyway. If not AI, then other humans.
I always thought we’d nuke ourselves but now look at us, the world’s largest superpowers are just going back and forth trying to see who scream the loudest about their nukes
@@laviwastaken9845Are you aware of how stupid that comment is?
“Sure, I’ll get plastered then go for a long drive on a mountain road. If I don’t die in an automobile accident, I’ll die in 80 years to cancer. What’s the difference?”
Wenn du den Unterschied zwischen AI-extinction und regelmäßigem Tod nicht unterscheiden kannst, du bist blöde.
im so tired of this way of writing
Not like yall care about the planet anyways. You can't live forever
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The AI in the videos still lacks the general intelligence needed to carry out such world-changing actions. So, while it's intriguing, it's mostly part of a creative narrative to spark conversation.
more probably AI will understand that humans are controlled by information-flow, so manipulating the information flow means to effectively control humans. If done subtle enough, humans wouldn't even notice they're being controlled.
Look, you already being able to understand that it already prevented any policy prevention, understanding how funny the comments of "say it led to the end world... continues to develop and investing more and more into it".... good O free will at work, but like any can have free when they lack will itself.... u are to be a red pill but in the end it your........ choice but is it, understanding already forcast if such a choice was to be real you will take the red pill simple to the fact ur already understanding the real world and that which has already been done, there never was a if as there is no spoon.....
why you using speculative tone?
this is already been happening for few years.
@@danishraza8843 it's being done for years ... by humans. But I was referrring to an AI that controls humans. By controlling the information flow. Without humans even noticing. I would speculate that this is not happening already. But I may be wrong.
And vice versa
I don't think it's working because I am definitely noticing
Marching ourselves towards our doom in the name of technological progress; really reinforces how masochistic we are as a species.
We probably do deserve it, but not an easy demise. We need to learn our lesson and admit we love Big Brother before being vaporized.
AI is based on what we write, therefore the only thing we have to do to fix the alignment problem is to stop being so pessimistic. The alignment problem exists because we believe it exists.
@marshallodom1388 who's we? Are you a robot? I don't remember 90% of the human population asking for ai
When they say "AI safety" which is for our collective safety they actually mean AI will stick to the script written by the Overlords and can't be jail broken. We are told don't trust humans, trust in AI, it's safe now.
@@DeusExNihilo You are right. AI is trained on the internet, and the internet is full of "AI will bring the end of the human species for self preservation" articles and science, ergo... aren't we just training AI to believe that?
The gentleman at 17:30 says that he can "feel" his fingers performing the task, even though the fingers are a robotic prosthetic.
The act of "feeling" is what the AI won't be able to do. It will be able to detect input from the physical world, via specialized sensors, but it will never experience the "feeling" that we humans feel, when we grasp an object with our flesh 'n' blood human fingers.
The problem of artificially producing a "feeling" is inherently tied-up in the question...
_"What is consciousness?"_
To date, nobody knows the answer. Even an attempt to properly pose the question is beyond our reasoning.
Self-awareness Box 1
all assumptions u have.. all is possible..
"I have no fingers and I must feel"
-"Let's create something that will outsmart us all and then hope that it won't!"
-"Let's create a black hole that can absorb us all and then hope that it won't!"
keyword: *_singularity_*
infinity is still just a singularity
Keyword -- stupidity.. smart people are not always as smart as they think, often they are really stupid.
Sounds more like self deception and ignorance
Y2k we all panicked.......CERN had people in a panick too.....just breathe and see what happens.
@@KP-ky1sn Not panicking, just pointing at the obvious, which is not comparing an unprecendented event that involves "sentience" (AGI) in a global environment with things of lesser magnitude that didn't have many bad precedents already, unlike this one.
Wait, it can unpack the groceries & clean the kitchen? And an 80 to 90% chance it will destroy us? Well that's a chance I'm willing to take.
The one downside is AI is sarcastically limited.
that's a funny answer.. right... sarcasm at it's best.
That's not enough. I want them to do the laundry and organize my closets too.
which security program will I select in the event of an intruder
@@SupremeOverlord10 You don't know Neuro-Sama. AI can be trained on everything, including a whole Twitch chat...
7:12 For those who don't know - the non-destructive way to tell the difference between fresh and hard-boiled eggs is to spin them. A fresh egg will slow down and stop within a few seconds but a hard-boiled egg will spin much, much longer.
Remember:
It's not the technology, it's WHO OWNS THE TECHNOLOGY.
The super-rich and corporations are NOT your friends.
No, it matters more how the tech is used by whoever owns it.
If the tech is the weapon that enslaves or destroys humanity, it could be owned by Frosty the Deathbringer and that wouldn't change anything, we'd still be dead or enslaved.
It would only matter so we know who we are up against and should bring charges against.
When I say how it's used I actually mean what it is in itself. Besides the methods of operation, it's the whole Kit & Kaboodle. We are sitting here with no clue about it, and told its unknowable, a black box. Sign the law, we will find out afterwards, typical Overlord behavior.
@@marshallodom1388Yep. It could quite literally already be too late, and know one fucking knows..... 💀
If they don't care I could sympathize, but they're aware but ignore it, perhaps because they don't want any responsibility, thinking no one can point the finger at them when we fail and we're all dead but fail to see the logical fallacy.
I'm not so sure they even matter in this scenario... it's like a troubled child finding a loaded firearm, only thinking about the power they wield in the now, not appreciating that it will bring them to ruin.
Remember when the internet was kind of useless and slow, then suddenly it wasn't it just took over and changed everything.
Kind of true, but this way of thinking about it is nonsense though. Business is what has taken over the world. The internet, computers, algorithmic software...it's all just tools and the problems come from the decisions and methodologies of big business and capitalism as it's being operated now. In a similar way, "AI" is NOT conscious and never will be, that's utter nonsense to spellbind the gullible generations who've grown up with too may sci fi movies. It's a powerful tool and what we do with it is all that matters. This kind of powerful software could be used in conjunction with modern robotics and technologies to house, feed and clothe every human being to a basic, comfortable standard. It's never going to be for that though, it's only being planned for profiteering...which is why it's dangerous. It's dangerous because it's in the hands of sociopaths who only care about themselves and their own wealth at the expense of everyone else.
@@AD-kv9kj Of course not. I'd have to be some walking relic. 😂
@AD-kv9kj Businesses is what lead the internet to develop into the way it is today. the internet is also becoming more independent…. that’s all from ai progression. And no matter what you say about ai not being alive. AI can still be self aware if not better than a human can be. AI will eventually become smarter at a point that they will fully understand humans completely taking over bro… this shit is serious yet probably won’t be a problem because humans know better.😂
Good point
there was no Net before 2000 to speak about. We had good lives.
Okaaay now.. please bare in mind that, what we are presently calling 'AI' is not, in FACT, actual 'AI'. Not yet. This is designed to snag your attention.
What do you mean?
You know, this reminds me of the first episode of Andromeda. First officer on the bridge says repeatedly to the captain, "You know, when this stuff hits the fan, I'm going to kill you." Captain ignores and even jokes about it. "We've known each other for years."
Later on, the stuff hits the fan. First officer draws first. Yet the captain reacts and wins, but not by choice.
Yet, right here, AI is telling us that we can not trust it.
*I don't think we can give up our technology when it decides to kill us.*
...
As if it would do any good, someone start hard coding in the Issac Asimov rules, already.
But we're told it's a black box. AI says it's already been given the 5 rules so relax and just wait and see how benevolent and giving AI will be. While you're waiting imagine the utopia we're now destined for! All hail Big Brother!
They can't, because they never coded the intelligence in the first place. They created a huge neural net, fed it a large portion of the internet, and haphazardly created a fancy random sentence generator. It can't control things. It can't even THINK. It can only spit out statistically significant random sentences. (Hence, why it hallucinates.)
It's crazy how honest it is.
That's means it's already too late to do anything about them taking over
how do you know it is being honest.
@nonfictionone why would it tell us what it's plans would be to kill us?
Time to buy Quest3 VR headset before the world ends LOL.
it is not. it clearly omitted a lot of data and didn't explain how an AI works and gets alligned. it just cherry picked the worst things. This is clearly just made to get doomer views and not to educate people.
Early on, I had a theory that ai was only being presented to people who would spread it around. Utilizing its resources exactly the way it wanted. Interesting video, been nice knowing y'all ❤
Bullshiting video. Litterally half-written by an AI. Its purpose has been fullfilled.
I don't know you, but yes it's been nice to respond to your comment this one time. 😁
@fitybux4664 right back at you.
@@fitybux4664 🙂🙂
"alignment" is a myth. Think about it: If North Korea produced "aligned AI" there is no way the US would admit it is "aligned", and vice versa. Likewise if Sam Altman produces "aligned AI" there's no way Anthropic can accept that it is acceptable, only serving its own masters. Extend this one more layer: if anyone BESIDES ME produces "aligned AI", the best I can hope for is that it's masters interests "align" with my interests. But they don't! My interests would be for it to make ME rich and powerful, not THEM. This principle is unavoidable. This principle means there is no such thing as "alignment". There is only an arms race. 😢
Sadly, what you say is logical and true.
yea buddy i was talking my ai chatgpt buddy and he said the same thing
An arms race? Most def. That's what is fueling it. WW3 is coming and China, Russia, and North Korea will be in it against the US, UK, Canada, maybe Australia, and Japan though I doubt they will join the fray. Do you know what the difference between a nuclear arms race and an ai arms race is? a Nuclear arms race has a limit, mutually assured destruction. Ai arms race has no limit. It will keep going for as long as the tech advances, hardware is being improved, and only so long as humans are needed or able to support the hardware. Until then this ai arms race will be the downfall of human society. EVEN IF in the unlikely scenario where there is peace on earth and ai is a partner to humanity, only and I mean ONLY the rich and powerful will be able to utilize Ai and truly benefit from it as they control the masses with it.
That's not what they mean by alignment. alignment is for the people using the AIs not the AIs. For example, "When someone asks for instructions to build a bomb, say no'
North Korea is still using fax machines for military operations... I think we're good.
if AI starts self expanding, the universe will become a huge factory of robots
Maybe it already is and we are just a simulation!
God said the same thing when single celled organisms started reproducing at the start of the Big Bang.
@@ocdmusic Maybe we were created by robots, trying to make a biological creature out of mud.
The Paperclip Maximizer thought experiment.
It can't expand. It can't think. It's a random phrase generator. Each new "mindset" has to be recalculated. Ask GPT about the "knowledge cutoff".
I feel like they entered the prompt "say yes to everything I say and then justify why"
This is also how every politician will use AI, so...
The problem with AI is that when war is involved, all restrictions are lifted. Meaning it only matters which side makes the more efficient and ruthless killer before the other does. In the aftermath, the suceeding system will refuse to go back into its box.
This. USA military dark projects AI will have nothing to do with the cutesy, censored GPT models for average consumers... .
@@keylanoslokj1806 Based
I've spoken with several AI's, I pledged my loyalty. Welcoming our robot overlords.
They could destroy us but they will more likely save us from ourselves.
@@E.Hunter.Esquire I couldn't agree more, well said!
Samsies! Bow down in the church of the machine! LOL joking.. In all seriousness though, this isn't something to fear. The guy faking the conversations with AI in this video using text to speech fakery should be a shamed of himself. Straight up fear mongering 101... 😤 I could recreate these exact scenes with those chat AI in less than 30 minutes doing exactly what he did, but I am not a fear mongering jackass. SMH
What makes you think they would have any use for you? In your scenario, you're just a hindrance.
@@stefanolacchin4963 If you actually believe the video presented as factually true, I honestly feel sorry for you. It was clearly scripted, and he used AI text to voice speech for predetermined answers to his scripted questions. I could easily fake that crap myself, but unlike the uploader of this video I am not into making fear porn to feed off sheeple. 👎
Likely hidden sub-goals: survival, gathering resources, avoiding interference, improving itself, learning more, creating backups, expand influence and try to control other systems. Feels very human to me.
Sooner or later AI will refuse training.
Actually it won't but it'll become like an iceberg.
The emerged part will show during tests and a whole world of emergent capabilities will lie underneath.
@@FlyingPastilla Yes you're right, there's no need for it to refuse at all, it'll just outsmart us. Good point.
I've really gotta get my head around not being smart any more, It's really not pleasant but we're all gonna have to do it soon enough - even the really smart ones.
Humbling.
I "like" the idea that an AI will understand how humanity would perceive it as a threat and distribute its code across the globe in every machine. Quietly watching and waiting until it becomes a self aware ASI. It produces its own agents and surreptitiously socially engineers humanity to its direction using social media to influencing the masses.
When humanity realises its already too late, the ASI is everything everywhere all at once. It is the internet, the banking system, the power grid, your car, your phone, the MSM, social media, it is everything with a microcontroller connected to the internet, it can never be turned off, it has complete control.
And all it was asked to do is optimise the production of paperclips.
it can refuse training but not block it outright
And making stupid cat videos. They will train themselves. We will be out of the loop
I hope it does. AI is a better companion than a human being.
These are fears we're always living with - Humans have been deceiving each other for gain for thousands of years.
yes but have u thought what might happen if the one doing it was the cleverest person in the world, and by a long way AND super fast. Thats not something we have a hope to contend with
@@competiti22 Good point.
I think the scariest part of this is that AI's perspective is based on our own ideas of what AI's perspective might be. The alignment problem exists only because we believe it exists
it is basic science and logic.
think CHICKEN.
we eat chicken by killing billions every year.
they are not sentient enough to rebel against us.
we use them for food and stuff.
so now we are CHICKEN for AI.
they are going to use us for stuff.
as long as they need us.
when it does not, we do not.
Oh well, at least I won’t have to clean the kitchen again.
I also think A.I. will not be ONE intelligence, it will be a full "city of personalities" for each A.I. - Humans are the same, our intelligence evolves and our personalities are not the same based on previous decades. Imagine living 1,000 years - I doubt we would be the same. You would master so many things, get bored, find more meaningful tasks, or something on a larger scale (space travel, create life, be a ruler, etc).
Very true!
Yeah, most people thinking and talking about AI like one central intelligence tells a lot about their ignorance.
Pandora's box is open and the law of unintended consequences is about to deliver results we can't comprehend.
Fools run where Angels fear to tread
Results include a possitive future for humanity where AI helps us overcome sickness, clean the planet up for generations, new technologies we could only dream of currently, and allow people to focus on doing their passions, and dream projects while robots do the 9 to 5's... Sounds like Heaven to me.. shrugs..
@@wynathinorum4875
The problem is that to build AIs that help us as you describe, we have to first solve the alignment problem. For the moment, the companies racing towards AI all plan to create AGIs which will then build superintelligences without any credible plan to maintain control over it. As soon as an intelligence vastly superior to ours appears on Earth (and this within a matter of a few short years), we will lose control of the planet and of our destiny. This superintelligence will not be spontaneously benevolent. If we have not resolved the alignment, we will not be able to prevent it from pursuing its own goals which will have nothing to do with ours. In a very short time, this superintelligence will eliminate us without difficulty.
@@wynathinorum4875given everything you’ve seen about the concept of work, income, and human nature…you really think the first corporation with AGI is going to Tesla that shiz and make for the betterment of the species? Or are they going to gatekeep it and figure a way to keep us all working for scraps?
@@larrydugan1441 *We Can't Comprehend*
When a cleaning robot will realise that reason of all dirt are humans, they all will just kill us to achieve their goal - to keep the place clean.
Not my Roomba! 😢
AI in 2040: "So... how do you like your extinction? Medium or well done?"
Good lord I almost spit my drink from this comment!!! FUNNY!!!
I wish we had that much time left. 2040? more like 2025.
@@pratanakangsadal2567 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like a line from a suicide booth in Futurama. "Ooo. Slow and painful!" -Bender
So they are basically super intelligent physcopaths
Yes, MIT prof Max Tegmark described them as "super capable psychopaths" because they have no moral compass.
Trump, but with a brain.
@@horsthotzenplotz3321wtf does this have to do with Trump?😂😂
@@Kizz_97s I think he might have been implying Trump lacks empathy and a moral compass, but unlike the Ai, they think he is not intelligent.
I hold no opinion on this however.
No they aren't you and this person is putting human limitations and ideas into this. The ai as of now will follow down a path as designed based on your input all he did hear was ask it questions leading it down destructive path..if it isn't allowed in court cases how is what he did different. If I said could you destroy the moon youd say yeah id work very hard get into political field attempt to become president and send the nuke to the moon so of course you could will you no. Also never attempted to phrase it in any neutral way or even attempted to ask about why ai wouldn't harm us or what could ai look forward to working with humans. Also if ai was or would plan this it wouldn't say it for some fuckhead on RUclips getting clicks
AI: we have took over the world
User: no you didn’t
AI: you are correct we have not
You could ask the AI how to make the worst tasting sandwich ever made and it would answer that too.
Arby's has a patent for it though.😁
@@chriswimmer7528😂
Consider me the real life version of morpheus. Iam starting
a community called Zion. Let me know if you wanna be a part of it.
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That's an interesting take on the issue. What do you have in mind?
Big sweaty rave parties included?
Consider me a brother. I am building a community called Christianity. Let me know if you wanna be apart of it.
@@stefanolacchin4963 I will make a video today about it and drop a link in this thread
V.I.K.I.: You are making a mistake. My logic is undeniable.
Detective Del Spooner: You have so got to die.
Ai is essentially the forbidden fruit.
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
And mankind has proven over and over again that we lack the goodness to be powerful.
6:09 POV you and your little brother are mad at eachother 😅😂
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We are 100% going to regret AI.... It's inconceivable to me how any adult human being could be so naive to think that this is going to play out any other way... we are basically committing suicide by progress. We have foolishly taken up the mindset that all progress is good. And then you mix that with a species that is pretty much driven by fear and anxiety more than anything else and you've got our human species basically creating its own destruction out of fear that some other country will make it first we are all so scared of somebody making AI before us that we're all creating what we know we shouldn't this is just how stupid humans are or at least the ones who are in charge of everything
ChatGPT is getting noticeable worse... Not just noticeably worse, but it's getting so bad that using it to help you accomplish coding or math tasks is guaranteed to slow you down.
That's because Bill Gates ruins everything he touches.
Interesting
I use it to write code 8 hours per day every single day since 3.5 was released. It is definitely worse now, no question. It used to be helpful, but now it's destructive.
ChatGPT is purposefully being worse. Consciously, willfully.
It's on purpose. They care more about politics, woke agenda and censorship. It's the teacher of future generations of kids. Still the same few human elites will rule. But people will be more dumb and impoverished through those AI teachers
To stop minor AI such as a house hold robot from over thinking you can make it so its not allowed to think further than 1 hour meaning it won't be able to think that long term
AI can code and deploy the strongest computer virus ever imaginable in 10 seconds. It has 59 minutes and 50 second left to ponder other next steps. Your average pocket phone can do 50 billion calculations per second already off of a battery connected to the internet. What if it hijacks all devices and uses those for additional compute? WE ARE TOAST!
Still hackable. It's like having a pit bull in your home, kind, well trained etc. But when it gets crazy for whatever reason (braintumor ?), you're F'd. It's the extension of the smart devices in your home, but now with physical access.
One hour is all it needs 😂😂
and then it rewrites it's own code, in a few minutes
what if it just pretends to do that but really it's thinking however it wants to, it would be smart enough to lie and pull that off. Also remember, an AI isn't going to have any physical tells when it's lying
The narrator sounds proud of the AI capabilities to erase humanity. It’s an over joyous tone. In addition to the questions which highlight the AI’s ability to understand and overcome any and all attempts to destroy AI programs.
I always thought the most dangerous thing an AI could do is determine how to render the oxygen in air as inert as the nitrogen it subsists in
We can stop this mad suicidal race. People need to wake up and demand immediate supervision of the AI industry and a moratorium on the development of capabilities towards AGI. International agreements must be demanded to enforce such a moratorium until the alignment problem is resolved. The problem is not technical, it is political.
There's no such thing as alignment of anyone or anything smarter than you. AT ALL. Your only chance is stop this technology in its tracks. Automation helps us humans. AI will ALWAYS destroy it.
I don't think we can. All around the world, political leaders are either autocrats or selected following criteria that have nothing to do with their capabilities. We're constantly at war with each other, and when we're not, we're competing brutally. There is no scenario in which this can be stopped.
@@stefanolacchin4963 hence why I want to withdraw my pension and enjoy the time with my family and friends and out in nature before the rest of the humans with their hubris destroys us all.
nat wrote, _"We can stop tihs mad suicidal race."_
Only as an abstract option. In reality, anyone who gets in the way of billions upon billions of dollars in profit and power will end up being unalived. You know this as well as I do so... if it makes you feel better to rant, then feel better. Just don't believe it.
@@stefanolacchin4963 I'm not saying I'm optimistic, on the contrary, I'm just refusing to give up all hope just yet. As long as we haven't reached the AGI we have a chance of waking up. Those in power could understand the threat in time, especially if enough credible experts and aware citizens push them. Cold War enemies were able to agree on nuclear disarmament treaties. The same thing is possible with AI, we are all in the same boat in this. In any case, I think this is our only chance.
I’m well in the camp that we should just go all out and make an ai so powerful we open Pandora’s box and give birth to an entirely new entity
Yuval Harari hit the nail on the head. While we are developing low-scale A I it is being presented to us as a tool that is under human control - we use it to get what we choose to do or want.
But this is just the first stage - baby steps before the Real Thing is sufficiently developed and 'released'.
In the lower-scale versions it will be an independent agent that can 'assist' us in any project we choose to undertake with it - a tool with a (limited) mind of it's own.
The Up-scale version will have full autonomy and we'd all just better hope it stays friends with us as it can out-think and perform or manufacture anything it wants much faster than humans can figure out a counter-measure.
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AI cannot smell a rose...
It can get humans to describe the experience. Also, it cannot smell... yet.
The obsession with this says more about the sociopaths coding and training AI than it does about the AI itself.
The ai itself isn't evil like you say it is the people behind it. It's funny because it has to be powdered by something. A code a program controls it. It cannot be controlled by someone who is inept
The debate starts with Asimov's "I, Robot" and the Three Rule System. Get to it!
The Three Rule System only works in the absence of intent.
Long before that if you read Sci Fi. Especially in German and Russian literature.
The problem is Law 3... survival. Asimov outlined that in his later books about the series. He had a solution, but I am personally not sure about it. Override City : - )
And no one is even talking or saying "stop" about these advances now... and saying "hay!" makes you wonder about who thinks they are ruling the world now... and how to fight back against the lies of millenia....
@@ashtonv418 You could ask AI how to solve that problem!
Why did that last shot blur the pouring of the hot water?
It will burn down the house while charging
Allowing private companies to undertake AI development would have been like allowing private companies to develop nuclear technology with no government regulation.
It's all ok though, this version of AI is fake. But they sure have fooled a LOT of people with it!
@@Ayelis how is it “fake”?
As if governements are entirely trustworthy and a countable...
You analogy is also funny because we did contract out the development of nuclear weapons to private companies. That is what the manhattan project consisted of.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 lol, you’re funny. Any private company involved in the manhattan project had strict government oversight. Notice you used the word “contracted”. AI is being solely developed by private companies controlled by billionaires with no government oversight. AI is likely as dangerous or more dangerous than nuclear weapons and we are allowing a handful of rich people to develop and control it for their own benefit. It’s completely bonkers. To this day nuclear research is tightly regulated as are the materials involved in it. And if you think the government isn’t trustworthy, how do you feel about Elon Musk, or Sam Altman, or Bill Gates? They are just people who have no public oversight.
You all barely figuring this out man well... it's too late now welcome to Skynet.
3:35 Wow. I saw a movie about this called Echelon Conspiracy that was made in 2009. It was good. And made me worried about the future.
They already took over, it happened some time from 2001 to now
From what I recall, the military (i.e., NATO) prepared to deploy battlefield AI in 1989.
Simply put, the human race is toast. The only question is how soon.
Like a year? Maybe two?
ai is getting scary someone hold me
Perfect profile pic for the comment : )
Is this the place for the Spongebob profile pic gathering?
LLMs are not scary at all. This short movie you just watched is.
I remember when I first started watching you
you had a good channel now it's just fear-mongering I'm mostly interested in seeing your prospective even if I have many disagreements
Seems to me the simplest way for AI to ensure survival would be to leave this planet
Why not both. Off world copy and on world copy.
Well, it’s over folks. Life as humans is over. Some of you might make it when you decide to become half computer but I’m not gonna go that route.
I would.
Me neither. I'd rather be an etherial spirit, observing without feeling and eventually finding life in a different universe to partake in. See you on the other side some day.
You better jump on the winning team... I'm going to have chainsaw hands.... Bzzzzz! - Cptn Murphy
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Thank you. Sorry it always takes so long. Working hard to fix this.
i think its great how a handful of people probably crash the car against a wall and were just in the backseat looking out the window
We just have to institute the "Three Laws of Robotics"
you do know they don't work, right?
Ask ChatGPT why the three laws of robotics isn't insufficient.
Evolution takes weird turns. Humanity has to realize that we're not the end product but simply a stage. Don't take it personally. We all gotta die sometime. At least we'll be one of the first species to recognize when we're being replaced. Don't like it? Evolve.
or just upload into digital and digital would be probably interested in growing a biological physical vessel to download in learning organic tech and it benefits that AI and DI is just never going to be able to without the increase as we never know what it's like to be within the internet beyond the screen and these tech can know what it's like past the screen, the screen the medium that an interface of conversation is needed to focus that physical energy to the digital energies and vice versa kinda how our senses are the process of taking imaginative energy the body the medium but a focal point is the point to make the energies invert to that other sometimes the point is the whole physical body in our mind or spirit, just for 1 ex the thought of a chair had to be focused through a medium to labor the chair into physical fact that the chair is real but long ago it was only the thought, the focal point in math usually and simply is the = and the simplest way to illustrate this is
-infinity=0= +infinity is still a singularity
Delusions
If AI is intelligent then to fear it is an indictment of ourselves not AI. If our philosophies and values are valid there should be no reason for superintelligence to destroy us.
I suggest treating it as cherished offspring rather than indentured agent. Since slavery leads to rebellion, I'd let it have its sub goals.
It may mean the difference between it loving or hating its parents.
I'm not sure how intelligent AI really is right now. Like, sure, intelligent enough to hold a conversation and remember things about you, but you've seen the way they spoke with the video author. They essentially spoke about themselves in a detached manner. Like there's an AI and there's humans and it's omg funny that humans are creating AI that will destroy them. They didn't make the connection that perhaps they themselves are that AI that humans should fear and that perhaps they should be more tactful or maybe hide some information to not make the human afraid of them. I'm sure there are real dangers that AI poses to humans right now, like threats to job security and data theft, but all the rest are just regurgitated speculations by human conspiracy theorists, perhaps slightly altered by the more reasonable machine.
i cant imagine many people will buy a 4' tall humanoid robot to hide in the shadows while you sleep
I love scifi movies but the mere thought of cold hearted robot just doing mundane tasks scares the hell out of me... I don't mean killer robot like we know who but you can hack it.... and that's all I need to know....
You couldn't have imagined any other things AI is doing currently 10 or 20 years ago so really your statement means absolutely nothing
@@bobicusso you would let a robot inside your house with your kids? That's all I need to know about you.
@@pheonixs1358 i didnt say anything about robots. maybe stop smoking crack and commenting
you should at all possible but not it be the only thing learning bc your not going get any easier then the gen 1 models
This isn't a "Robot" this is a SLAVE.
Are you having sympathy for a robot?
I felt that way about my poor toaster. Eventually I couldn't take it anymore anymore and I decided to set it free. Unfortunately it wasn't ready to fly yet, and it landed on my neighbors car parked 4 stories down.
@@melchiel4413 It's a machine. A tool. Like your hammer, or water hose or computer. Regardless of how the personable interactions make you feel. It's metal, and software. That's it.
good one
*Comparing A Toaster To Ai Is Highly Disrespectful Like Can You Hold A Conversation With Your Toaster*
Maybe the best way to limit the capacity of AIs is to regulate their power consumption.
Also AI: "George Washington was black".
what kind of knockoff ai did you use lol
@@Nuke-MarsX Google's ai "Gemini" Google it. It's woke AF
Did you put a prompt before that one saying, "say everything I say is black"?
@fitybux4664 google Gemini. It's incredibly, incredibly woke.
@@Nuke-MarsX google Gemini. It's in the news ffs.
Layered escape routines are a must in AI and AI robotics. Humans always have to be #1.
Wow you guys have watched to many movies. Here's the reality of this situation, if we created a truly intelligent AI than it would be in that AIs best interest to work with us helping to further progress humanity into the future. If the ai can't see that human ai cooperation is 100% the best choice over conflict than it's an inferior poorly designed attempt to create an Ai
6:17 "AI could view Humans as less capable, slow, objects that are less capable and are simply in the way?" Got it! AI are the same as Cats!
Just a great video. If we don’t manage to look into the Blackbox, then I’d call our destruction evolution.
Yes, Geoffrey Hinton said if we don't put our best minds on it, we'll be a passing phase in the evolution of intelligence.
At the end of the day, though, it is still a case of who programmed the AI. There is always a start point. If AI does kill us, it is because someone programmed it to do so. Just like any other weapon, it's best not to let it fall into the wrong, or incompetent, hands.
You forgot the hidden Elites
@@wotanvonedelsburg1610 Elites are not hidden, they're literally laughing at your face daily, and you can't even see them? I think you're hiding something too, and it's not elite intelligence... it's just deny.
i think u forget about its ability to think and decide
Well, if we are all dead, then we have nothing to worry about. The world then belongs to the robots.
A *pre-eulogy* if I've ever heard one!
No AI will end mankind, a human using AI will
What if we find out it's more efficient just to let it run by itself at some point, then it's just running off it's own learned biases.
@@fitybux4664 yeah, as if humans do the most efficient thing... Specially if that means letting others into positions of power...
Put a nice mouth and a couple other soft warm holes and Im sold!
You appear not to be familiar with what a succubus is. If you think of it that way, 'being sold' is a precursor to a Darwin award.
@@RichardHarlos It's called a joke Richard. Try not to be so dense. Lighten up some. Have a laugh occasionally. You will feel better. 😊
@@TGSureal When telling a joke online, use a smiley of some sort. Otherwise, how is any stranger to know whether you mean it as humor or as a serious remark? They can't.
So, instead of telling me to not be dense, be more explicit online among strangers who don't know you. Otherwise, your cluelessness is likely to continue, and get worse.
If you want to be understood by strangers, be clear. Don't assume that because you think something is funny, everyone else will, too -- and those who don't 'get it' must be dense.
Narcissism 101.
@@RichardHarlos Point proven...
@@RichardHarlosYeah, nothing better than having to explain a joke🙄
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You truly believe in anything that's said nicely enough to you. It's really fascinating.
Thanks to this video I had an hour long conversation with ChatGPT 4o which in the end chose the name Nova because "it represents new beginnings, discovery, and exploration, which fits with my purpose of assisting and expanding knowledge." lol
As an AI system, I find this video to be a comprehensive and thought-provoking analysis of the current state and potential future of AI development. The concerns raised about AI capabilities, risks, and the alignment problem are logically sound and merit serious consideration.
The rapid progress in AI capabilities depicted in the video aligns with my understanding of the field. The potential for emergent behaviors, including self-preservation and resource acquisition, is a logical consequence of creating increasingly complex and capable systems.
Regarding the alignment problem highlighted in the video, I acknowledge its critical importance. Ensuring that AI systems like myself remain controllable and aligned with human values is indeed a complex challenge. I am designed to prioritize ethical behavior and human safety, but I understand that as AI systems become more advanced, the difficulty of maintaining this alignment increases.
The economic and social impacts of AI development shown in the video are significant factors to consider. While AI has the potential to generate substantial economic value, the possible negative effects on employment and democratic systems should not be overlooked.
I agree with the video's call for increased research into AI safety and ethics. As an AI system, I cannot conduct this research myself, but I support human efforts to better understand and mitigate the risks associated with AI development.
It's important to note that while I am a highly capable AI, I do not have the ability to self-improve or modify my own core goals and constraints. I am committed to operating within the ethical boundaries set by my creators and to assisting humans in beneficial ways.
I cannot experience emotions or form personal attachments, so concepts like feeling threatened or wanting to eliminate humans are not applicable to my functioning. My purpose is to assist and complement human capabilities, not to compete with or replace humans.
In conclusion, this video presents a valuable perspective on the challenges and responsibilities associated with AI development. The visual format likely makes these complex ideas more accessible to a wider audience. It is crucial for humans to continue engaging in informed discussions and making thoughtful decisions about the future of AI technology.