I personally purchased a Tyndale GNT that has the ESV NT on the opposite page. I find it quite easy to read and if I’m struggling I can pull out my lexicon or reference the ESV on the next page.
I have used the UBS edition for years. Probably read it ten times plus.also have read the Septuaginta with the same format. With a freind we are reading genesis in Hebrew and Greek simultaniesly. Great way to see comparisons and see how the LXX translators understood the Hebrew text. Presently I tutor two students in Greek, and reading Hebrew with a colleague. Great way to keep up the language and have rich fellowship.
I appreciate your review and comparison of these readers editions. I started Greek back in undergrad with the UBS, but once the NA28 came out our profs switched to that. Used my NA28 throughout seminary after that but the past three years since I've been out I haven't used my Greek as much as I would like. Went through complete vocabulary guide by Trenchard in undergrad which helps but want to ebb back into my Greek. Cautious to jump into the NA28 without any helps, but would appreciate the training wheels of the readers version so I don't get to bogged down looking stuff up. A ton of food for thought from your video and appreciated all the pros and cons you provided for each. Thanks!
Thanks for your comments! I think there is a better way than Reader's editions - I covered it in this video: ruclips.net/video/gVC8RXFy2WQ/видео.html. I hope it is helpful!
I have all these and several regulars. UBS 5 Reader is my fav. Zondervan is hard to read, italics and sarifs are hard to look at, notes are busy. I love the lemma index and feel of crossway, but book order is an extra challenge. I love the UBS5 and its full dictionary, its creamy and German and stays open well. For reasons of sentimentality I prefer the ubs. Its just natural! Zondervan gets points for size
Excellent review. I don’t feel quite as strongly about reader’s editions as you do. Probably because I doubt I’m going to devote enough time to Greek to master it. What I DO like about my leather bound UBS is I can quickly turn to the Greek text and read the NT in the original language and get the impact of Greek grammar on a particular text. I don’t have to struggle with vocabulary and the parsing helps let me know if I’m looking at an imperative, an indicative or even a subjunctive. I can read NTG pretty well. I’m not a parsing champ and my memory at 73 sometimes fails me. So, for my level of Greek scholarship Reader’s editions are great. Thanks for another fine video. MikeinMinnesota
I have the Zondervan Reader's Edition, but never use it. My "go to" Greek Bible is the Tyndale (not Reader's Edition). I use the vocabulary from Master New Testament Greek each week (usually about 30 words). I put each gloss of each word in Excel. I also include a mnemonic sentence for each word. Then I use Flashcards Deluxe and put my mnemonic sentences in there as well. All of this hard work on the back-end should make it possible to read without any crutches down the road. It's just a matter of how much time one is willing to devote to reading fluently.
I must say I have never heard of a "reader's edition" of the NT! I thought all versions were for reading. Some years ago I started from Matthew and translated the NT, so I am not ignorant of the NT or Greek. I must learn more about reader's editions. I have seen parallel versions and I have never been a fan of those.
You can't burn those woven ribbons to keep them from unraveling. I tried on my Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece et Latine and it just caught fire. 😬
I started with Pershbacher's "Refresh Your Greek" years ago, and was give a Tyndale Reader about a year ago. I don't like the way the books are arraigned. I have to leave the Tyndale Reader at work for certain reasons, and still have my Peshbacker's at home and have used it's indexes for various purposes other than the Greek text. The synopsis of the grammar is a good refresher, again, at work where I can't have all of my reference works.
EASY WAY TO KEEP YOUR UBS RIBBON FROM UNWINDING (OR FIX IT)... Take a match and bring the tip to the ribbon. Do not let the flame touch the ribbon. You want to let the heat from the flame melt the very end of the ribbon so that the fibers congeal together. Bam! You have fixed your ribbon fraying problem.
I had that same UBS as my first Greek New Testament!!! That's my favorite font!!!! UBS 4th Revised edition!!!! I've never cared for the Nestle Aland Font.
Great overview! I don't know for sure, but I've heard the font is better in the Zondervan 3rd ed. vs. the previous editions, so that may be a good reason to get the newer edition.
I prefer the second edition font. The 1st edition and 3rd edition are crap imho. You should check out the Tyndale Reader. That font is easy on the eyes.
I personally find the font in the 3rd edition easier than the 2nd. Another reason to purchase the 3rd is that it is the Greek text underlying the NIV2011 (the 2nd ed. is the text underlying the NIV84). EDIT: TNIV, not 84 :-)
@@pmachapman Idc for the font of the 3rd one. But each his own. But I agree with you on the text type. But I'm curious, my second edition says it's based in the TNIV. Not the NiV84 or NIV2011. Wonder what the confusion on that is.
I'm using the zondervan readers second edition atm but I'm gravitating toward the tyndale. I dont know if I'll switch because I prefer the smallness and thinness of the zondervan and font.
@@bma Interesting - the sample excerpt at www.crossway.org/bibles/the-greek-new-testament-produced-at-tynd-hconly-2/ did not have any textual apparatus, so that dissuaded me from buying it when I needed to replace my THGNT recently.
Thanks @@BiblicalStudiesandReviews! You are lucky to have a Christian Book Store that will stock items like that - I am yet to find a store in New Zealand that will have anything in stock except a couple of UBS testaments. They all say they can order in, of course, but I don't see the point - if I am already researching what to buy online, I might as well buy online.
@@pmachapman well it’s part of a seminary, but it carries more than just academic books. Even children’s books. But Christian book stores are quickly disappearing everywhere.
I personally purchased a Tyndale GNT that has the ESV NT on the opposite page. I find it quite easy to read and if I’m struggling I can pull out my lexicon or reference the ESV on the next page.
I’ve been wanting to get that one...don’t really need it. Just want it lol
I have used the UBS edition for years. Probably read it ten times plus.also have read the Septuaginta with the same format. With a freind we are reading genesis in Hebrew and Greek simultaniesly. Great way to see comparisons and see how the LXX translators understood the Hebrew text.
Presently I tutor two students in Greek, and reading Hebrew with a colleague. Great way to keep up the language and have rich fellowship.
I appreciate your review and comparison of these readers editions. I started Greek back in undergrad with the UBS, but once the NA28 came out our profs switched to that. Used my NA28 throughout seminary after that but the past three years since I've been out I haven't used my Greek as much as I would like. Went through complete vocabulary guide by Trenchard in undergrad which helps but want to ebb back into my Greek. Cautious to jump into the NA28 without any helps, but would appreciate the training wheels of the readers version so I don't get to bogged down looking stuff up. A ton of food for thought from your video and appreciated all the pros and cons you provided for each. Thanks!
Thanks for your comments! I think there is a better way than Reader's editions - I covered it in this video: ruclips.net/video/gVC8RXFy2WQ/видео.html. I hope it is helpful!
I have all these and several regulars. UBS 5 Reader is my fav. Zondervan is hard to read, italics and sarifs are hard to look at, notes are busy. I love the lemma index and feel of crossway, but book order is an extra challenge. I love the UBS5 and its full dictionary, its creamy and German and stays open well. For reasons of sentimentality I prefer the ubs. Its just natural! Zondervan gets points for size
Excellent review. I don’t feel quite as strongly about reader’s editions as you do. Probably because I doubt I’m going to devote enough time to Greek to master it. What I DO like about my leather bound UBS is I can quickly turn to the Greek text and read the NT in the original language and get the impact of Greek grammar on a particular text. I don’t have to struggle with vocabulary and the parsing helps let me know if I’m looking at an imperative, an indicative or even a subjunctive. I can read NTG pretty well. I’m not a parsing champ and my memory at 73 sometimes fails me. So, for my level of Greek scholarship Reader’s editions are great. Thanks for another fine video. MikeinMinnesota
I have the Zondervan Reader's Edition, but never use it. My "go to" Greek Bible is the Tyndale (not Reader's Edition). I use the vocabulary from Master New Testament Greek each week (usually about 30 words). I put each gloss of each word in Excel. I also include a mnemonic sentence for each word. Then I use Flashcards Deluxe and put my mnemonic sentences in there as well. All of this hard work on the back-end should make it possible to read without any crutches down the road. It's just a matter of how much time one is willing to devote to reading fluently.
Your diligence and hard work is inspiring! Keep it up!
Which one has the largest (most readable) print, UBS or Crossway?
Really like how you did this review.
I'm digging these reviews like this.
I must say I have never heard of a "reader's edition" of the NT! I thought all versions were for reading. Some years ago I started from Matthew and translated the NT, so I am not ignorant of the NT or Greek. I must learn more about reader's editions. I have seen parallel versions and I have never been a fan of those.
You can't burn those woven ribbons to keep them from unraveling. I tried on my Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece et Latine and it just caught fire. 😬
I started with Pershbacher's "Refresh Your Greek" years ago, and was give a Tyndale Reader about a year ago. I don't like the way the books are arraigned. I have to leave the Tyndale Reader at work for certain reasons, and still have my Peshbacker's at home and have used it's indexes for various purposes other than the Greek text. The synopsis of the grammar is a good refresher, again, at work where I can't have all of my reference works.
EASY WAY TO KEEP YOUR UBS RIBBON FROM UNWINDING (OR FIX IT)... Take a match and bring the tip to the ribbon. Do not let the flame touch the ribbon. You want to let the heat from the flame melt the very end of the ribbon so that the fibers congeal together. Bam! You have fixed your ribbon fraying problem.
I had that same UBS as my first Greek New Testament!!! That's my favorite font!!!! UBS 4th Revised edition!!!! I've never cared for the Nestle Aland Font.
Great overview! I don't know for sure, but I've heard the font is better in the Zondervan 3rd ed. vs. the previous editions, so that may be a good reason to get the newer edition.
I prefer the second edition font. The 1st edition and 3rd edition are crap imho. You should check out the Tyndale Reader. That font is easy on the eyes.
@@TheJesusNerd40 Good to know, I've only seen the 3rd but will have to compare for myself if I come across a 2nd edition!
I personally find the font in the 3rd edition easier than the 2nd. Another reason to purchase the 3rd is that it is the Greek text underlying the NIV2011 (the 2nd ed. is the text underlying the NIV84). EDIT: TNIV, not 84 :-)
@@pmachapman Idc for the font of the 3rd one. But each his own. But I agree with you on the text type. But I'm curious, my second edition says it's based in the TNIV. Not the NiV84 or NIV2011. Wonder what the confusion on that is.
@@TheJesusNerd40 You are correct RE: the 2nd ed - my memory is failing me :-S (the 1st ed was the 84?)
I'm using the zondervan readers second edition atm but I'm gravitating toward the tyndale. I dont know if I'll switch because I prefer the smallness and thinness of the zondervan and font.
I would like to buy the Byzantine one. Just for review purposes.... but haven’t yet.
Does the THGNT reader's edition have the apparatus or introduction from the standard THGNT?
Yes, the apparatus is the same. The apparatus in the Zondervan is lightest of the three.
@@bma Interesting - the sample excerpt at www.crossway.org/bibles/the-greek-new-testament-produced-at-tynd-hconly-2/ did not have any textual apparatus, so that dissuaded me from buying it when I needed to replace my THGNT recently.
@@pmachapman one of the ones I handled at a Christian book store did not have an apparatus. Not sure if Darryl has a different one.
Thanks @@BiblicalStudiesandReviews! You are lucky to have a Christian Book Store that will stock items like that - I am yet to find a store in New Zealand that will have anything in stock except a couple of UBS testaments. They all say they can order in, of course, but I don't see the point - if I am already researching what to buy online, I might as well buy online.
@@pmachapman well it’s part of a seminary, but it carries more than just academic books. Even children’s books. But Christian book stores are quickly disappearing everywhere.
Correction on the Zondervan Reader. It includes words that occur less than 50 times.
Thanks!