A comment about a wetsuit would be a consider a bib top style. A full arm wetsuit can cause problems with chaffing around the arm pits. I would also add a throw bag for rescues and recoveries, a drybag for lunch, phone, wallet, keys etc, and polypropylene tops as they stay warm and don't get waterlogged and heavy when wet. Finally especially in cold environments pogies (or white water mits).
Thanks for the feedback Andrew! Yeah, I'm in a wetsuit so much for various sports myself that I didn't think about the chaffing part. I feel like my whole body is calloused in areas where a wetsuit would cause chaffing at this point lol. Love those added items too. Pogies saved my life this season!
Hey! Great to hear some perspective from an Idahoan! (Noticed your corridor stickers 😋) I have been river surfing at the Boise whitewater park pretty much since it started, just now looking to get into whitewater kayaking! Love the frugal mindset, very refreshing. Pretty tired of the total salesmen on RUclips suggesting you need to spend in the thousands as a beginner. Keep up the great work! Shred on! 🤘😎
Float bags are something I think could be added to this list, although not necessarily essential. I learned quickly my first time out how important they are when it comes to retrieving a boat in a swim. I was sure I had some before my second outing.
Dude, my wife told me like right after I posted this that I should have included float bags. Definitely a must! My newer boat is pretty packed with foam, so it floats even if I swim, but in older boats for sure. I actually used to just put empty milk jugs in mine to save money
I used to stuff my split paddle with polystyrene so in the unlikely event of breaking my main paddle and resorting to the split paddle it would remain more boyant. Because they are normally made of aluminium I would also wind twine on the shaft for a better hand grip and insulate the hand from the cold.
Ha cause your noob ass is going to swim..Often. Empty the boat a few times plus the swim will wear you out, plus much easier for your bros to rescue a floating boat than a swamped one.
I would say float bags are essential. I don't boat with newbs that don't have them. If you are cheap, I'm cool if you fill your boat with pool toys from Walmart. Anything to keep the boat from being a hundred pounds to rescue. Depending on the river, a swim can destroy your boat without them.
@@hackventurelife The outfitter in my area has a sweet virgin Z3 in yellow , which is impossible to find since it’s a 2020 color . They have it in their training fleet - I’m gonna try to sweet talk them into selling it to me
First tip- check your local region Paddlers message boards, you can find cheap used boats. I would also suggest buying an old Dagger RPM to start, faster learning curve, easy to roll. I have 3 whitewater boats, but still prefer to paddle the RPM
Life jacket foam has a life span, never buy a used life jacket and check your jacket yearly to make sure it still floats you properly (as in swim something). Regardless of how it looks (rips and tears) that does not mean the foam still works and is going to float you properly. If you are using a life jacket over 3-4 years old chances are it should be retired... not given to your friend getting into the sport. The first thing you should do with a new life jacket is get into the water and see how it floats you so you ave a reference and know when the foam is beginning to break down inside the life jacket. A throw bag should be added as a "must have" item.... somehow absent from the list.
Anywhere you recommend getting an IR deck from over in America? I live in Ireland and it's impossible to get a good spraydeck to fit my Nirvana. Thanks, all the best
Great vid dude. I just moved up here to Idaho last year and just started to kayaking. (With a whitewater packraft) and want to get a hard shell boat so this was helpful. Definitely want to go the budget route cause I splurged on the packraft so the wife would kill me if I did that again on a second boat lol.
OutdoorDad haha I know the feeling. Keep an eye out for when Boise State does some of the gear clean outs, and also Cascade River Gear/Maravia has a gear swap every year. It hopefully won’t be too affected by covid, though I haven’t seen any announcements yet. I can keep you posted on it though!
HackVenture Life thanks man. Hoping to get my wife in a whitewater kayak class with me this summer (cause I don’t know what I’m doing still lol) and so she gets the big... which means buying gear won’t be as much of an issue lol. But that’s for the tip I’ll keep my eye out for fear swaps/clean outs. And hopefully find some people who know than me to paddle with lol
I'm looking for a kayak that will mainly be used for recreational lake stuff or slow rivers, but if it gets filled with some water it could still be paddled. I'm not expecting a full thing of water like a whitewater, but just don't want a kayak I'm going to have to swim with it to get to land to empty it. But I don't want to spend a crazy amount. I'm expecting a cheap kayak, like under $500. If it doesn't paddle well in lakes or rivers, fine. I just want it to have the functions mentioned (and be a sit in of course)
I found a pretty good used recreational kayak on FB marketplace. A possible solution to the filling with water is to use float bags and also buy a bilge pump. On the used market if you stick to the mainstream brands you ought to be able to find something you're happy with, best of luck. My problem now is that I'm caught the bug bad and am now shopping for a whitewater boat
@@hackventurelife since its a rodeo paddle it moves about 3 times as much water as normal and it was designed for the kayak slalom olympics so it can take a real beating so i have used it for 4 seasons now to do tricks in my dagger axiom and its still not worn out but i also got a werner shogun last year so i use it less so i dont wear out my favorite by using it on long trips shame that company doesnt make paddles any more or at all realy i think they where bought up by tahe so mostly ocean kayaks and equipment now
@@hackventurelife yeah its designed to shorten the amount of strokes needed to get up to speed but it puts a real strain on the paddler too use it mine is a full carbon bentshaft version with rubberized grip layer on the shaft with a blue black flame design on it while the rest of the paddle is in red got the paddle for about 20 dollars used from a guy that was new too the sport and got scared out of it that was selling all his gear so got the paddle for about 20 dollars
hoestly kayaking seams fairly inexpensive for an extreme sport. coming from motocross and street biking. 1500 dollars aint huge. skiing is 100 to 200 a day. and requires a couple grand in gear. mountain bikes are 5 to 10k.
Lol good point. Skiing’s affordable if you live somewhere close to a resort and get a season pass. My mtb wasn’t cheap, and I draw a line at moto because of the cost 😂
A comment about a wetsuit would be a consider a bib top style. A full arm wetsuit can cause problems with chaffing around the arm pits. I would also add a throw bag for rescues and recoveries, a drybag for lunch, phone, wallet, keys etc, and polypropylene tops as they stay warm and don't get waterlogged and heavy when wet. Finally especially in cold environments pogies (or white water mits).
Thanks for the feedback Andrew! Yeah, I'm in a wetsuit so much for various sports myself that I didn't think about the chaffing part. I feel like my whole body is calloused in areas where a wetsuit would cause chaffing at this point lol. Love those added items too. Pogies saved my life this season!
Hey! Great to hear some perspective from an Idahoan! (Noticed your corridor stickers 😋) I have been river surfing at the Boise whitewater park pretty much since it started, just now looking to get into whitewater kayaking! Love the frugal mindset, very refreshing. Pretty tired of the total salesmen on RUclips suggesting you need to spend in the thousands as a beginner. Keep up the great work! Shred on! 🤘😎
Float bags are something I think could be added to this list, although not necessarily essential. I learned quickly my first time out how important they are when it comes to retrieving a boat in a swim. I was sure I had some before my second outing.
Dude, my wife told me like right after I posted this that I should have included float bags. Definitely a must! My newer boat is pretty packed with foam, so it floats even if I swim, but in older boats for sure. I actually used to just put empty milk jugs in mine to save money
I used to stuff my split paddle with polystyrene so in the unlikely event of breaking my main paddle and resorting to the split paddle it would remain more boyant. Because they are normally made of aluminium I would also wind twine on the shaft for a better hand grip and insulate the hand from the cold.
Ha cause your noob ass is going to swim..Often. Empty the boat a few times plus the swim will wear you out, plus much easier for your bros to rescue a floating boat than a swamped one.
I would say float bags are essential. I don't boat with newbs that don't have them. If you are cheap, I'm cool if you fill your boat with pool toys from Walmart. Anything to keep the boat from being a hundred pounds to rescue. Depending on the river, a swim can destroy your boat without them.
Want to save a few bucks - try using wine bags taken from box wine packages for float bags
Hey I'm Back This enjoyable scenes! Magnificient. Excellent work! Glad you're on track this is still the better one
Good stuff Caleb 👍🏼
I’m currently working on the transition from recreational to white-water . I have a (M) Jackson Z3 in my sights
Dude. The Jackson Z3 and the Jackson Nirvana are the sexiest boats ever. I get mad boat envy when I see someone in them.
@@hackventurelife
The outfitter in my area has a sweet virgin Z3 in yellow , which is impossible to find since it’s a 2020 color . They have it in their training fleet - I’m gonna try to sweet talk them into selling it to me
Riot Paddle, I have the carbon one. Great paddle.
Thanks! Someone told me Riot got out of the whitewater game, which is a bummer because the paddle of theirs that I've got is timeless!
First tip- check your local region Paddlers message boards, you can find cheap used boats. I would also suggest buying an old Dagger RPM to start, faster learning curve, easy to roll. I have 3 whitewater boats, but still prefer to paddle the RPM
Legit! Where are you based out of?
Thanks man, Well put together.
Thank you very much!
thanks for the motivation i had been kinda putting kayaking again off to the side but now i supose i hope i see you on the river XD
Very helpful video, I'm from San Diego but I want to learn how to whitewater kayak! I might have to do some traveling
Thank you for making this
Life jacket foam has a life span, never buy a used life jacket and check your jacket yearly to make sure it still floats you properly (as in swim something). Regardless of how it looks (rips and tears) that does not mean the foam still works and is going to float you properly.
If you are using a life jacket over 3-4 years old chances are it should be retired... not given to your friend getting into the sport.
The first thing you should do with a new life jacket is get into the water and see how it floats you so you ave a reference and know when the foam is beginning to break down inside the life jacket.
A throw bag should be added as a "must have" item.... somehow absent from the list.
Anywhere you recommend getting an IR deck from over in America? I live in Ireland and it's impossible to get a good spraydeck to fit my Nirvana. Thanks, all the best
$500 to enter? I can’t wait to get into this sport! Thanks.
Get at it!! 👊🏻
Thanks mate, v useful.
Great vid dude. I just moved up here to Idaho last year and just started to kayaking. (With a whitewater packraft) and want to get a hard shell boat so this was helpful. Definitely want to go the budget route cause I splurged on the packraft so the wife would kill me if I did that again on a second boat lol.
OutdoorDad haha I know the feeling. Keep an eye out for when Boise State does some of the gear clean outs, and also Cascade River Gear/Maravia has a gear swap every year. It hopefully won’t be too affected by covid, though I haven’t seen any announcements yet. I can keep you posted on it though!
HackVenture Life thanks man. Hoping to get my wife in a whitewater kayak class with me this summer (cause I don’t know what I’m doing still lol) and so she gets the big... which means buying gear won’t be as much of an issue lol. But that’s for the tip I’ll keep my eye out for fear swaps/clean outs. And hopefully find some people who know than me to paddle with lol
Thank you for this video. I was searching everywhere for what spray skirts were called since mine were missing on my playboats.
Ah, man, I'm glad it was helpful! That's the tough part about some of these obscure sports. The terminology can be hard to find lol enjoy!
Riot is the brand of your paddle
I'm looking for a kayak that will mainly be used for recreational lake stuff or slow rivers, but if it gets filled with some water it could still be paddled. I'm not expecting a full thing of water like a whitewater, but just don't want a kayak I'm going to have to swim with it to get to land to empty it.
But I don't want to spend a crazy amount. I'm expecting a cheap kayak, like under $500. If it doesn't paddle well in lakes or rivers, fine. I just want it to have the functions mentioned (and be a sit in of course)
I found a pretty good used recreational kayak on FB marketplace. A possible solution to the filling with water is to use float bags and also buy a bilge pump. On the used market if you stick to the mainstream brands you ought to be able to find something you're happy with, best of luck. My problem now is that I'm caught the bug bad and am now shopping for a whitewater boat
Bilge pumps exist
the paddle you have there is a discontinued robson whitewater paddle i have a rodeo style paddle from them
Thanks Charles! How do you like yours? I plan on using mine at least through one more season
@@hackventurelife since its a rodeo paddle it moves about 3 times as much water as normal and it was designed for the kayak slalom olympics so it can take a real beating so i have used it for 4 seasons now to do tricks in my dagger axiom and its still not worn out but i also got a werner shogun last year so i use it less so i dont wear out my favorite by using it on long trips shame that company doesnt make paddles any more or at all realy i think they where bought up by tahe so mostly ocean kayaks and equipment now
@@charlessanne5689 good to hear that it’s designed to move water like that. Makes me feel like I have an advantage charging out of holes
@@hackventurelife yeah its designed to shorten the amount of strokes needed to get up to speed but it puts a real strain on the paddler too use it mine is a full carbon bentshaft version with rubberized grip layer on the shaft with a blue black flame design on it while the rest of the paddle is in red got the paddle for about 20 dollars used from a guy that was new too the sport and got scared out of it that was selling all his gear so got the paddle for about 20 dollars
That paddle is made by riot
Always remember other kayakers have extra gear and most of us loan out our extra gear
hoestly kayaking seams fairly inexpensive for an extreme sport. coming from motocross and street biking. 1500 dollars aint huge. skiing is 100 to 200 a day. and requires a couple grand in gear. mountain bikes are 5 to 10k.
Lol good point. Skiing’s affordable if you live somewhere close to a resort and get a season pass. My mtb wasn’t cheap, and I draw a line at moto because of the cost 😂
join a club mine charges £38 year and you can borrow everything you need then you can buy gear as you go
That’s awesome! A really great luxury to have where you live. I hope more whitewater hotspot communities will do the same