Hi, I'm attempting to build my first master chain with analog hardware and became interested in your products after seeing the Audio Animals review for the CrossComp. All your products look interesting and like I could get a lot out of them if I learned them properly. The CrossComp video gave me a very good idea of how it worked. With this one I'm not so sure as to how it works. Is this something akin to a Dangerous 2bus? Would I take the DB25 cable from my Aurora N and then hook up 4 stereo pairs to the Goly Stem Mix Compression Matrix? And from there, is the idea that I'd run four aux tracks/sub-mixes into it by using a different hardware insert on each aux track? Then print them and move onto the next process? I've had people steer me away from Goly because they thought it was too difficult to understand, but I see a lot of potential here once I have a better idea of what I'm working with. Thanks for the videos, I'm excited to hear all about what your products can do.
@viciousblissvideos the danger of treading new paths is, not everyone will be able to follow, because its outside of their daily systems of thought, or beyond what can be reached by their imagination or reasoning, so I understand the confusion completely. Developing these units, the easy of use when you actually sit down with it and have the a-ha moment was always in the forefront. You will get it if you sit down with the unit, I guarentee it. We can talk about how to ride a bike and the physical forces at play all day, or you can get on the bike and try. I understand people steering clear of what they dont see a use for/understand, but telling others to live within their own confinements seems odd to me.. I like to push the boundaries of what we can do and achieve, and love to find creative solutions to working with audio, so it might be a question of mindset. There is an explainer for this unit on the channel - I believe its linked at the end of the video I am replying to here. There is a signal/SC path overview in the user guide at goly.dk It can help you to break it into parts. Do you understand a summing mixer part? Do you understand a compressor? Well, thats 80%, so you just need to understand how this thing handles its routing (look in the manual, goly.dk) Same with the Crosscomp. Ive had e-mails from people asking "what it does", because they didnt understand the novel crosscomp feature, but in reality, they do understand the 2 channel dyanmic EQ and main functions. I can get the idea, it would be better if I left out the functions I find to be fun and creative, and stripped it down to what people understand at sight, but then, I probably wouldnt have to much fun making these things, and something really important would be lost. In essense, You have 4 stereo inputs, and you can adjust the level on the first row You can route each input to the side chain/compression detector on the second row You can route the reaction/compression back to each stereo channel on the third row There is an output per stem, so if you have drums on 1-2, you still just have drums on output 1-2, but they will compress as if they were part of the whole, so you can roll back your stems into the box. The problem this solves is, when youre creating stems, and you mute a track, it no longer affects compression, but here, everything is still playing along and interacting, while you still get the benefit of isolated stem outputs. There is also a stereo output, if you prefer to roll a mix direct. ALL this is covered in the explainer. If you do have questions, I believe its easier to communicate by mail and have a conversation, rather than do it in the comments section on youtube, and my mail is always open! info@goly.dk I also think my US resellers offer returns within a given time frame, so you can try. Hope that helps!
1:56 Stunning. The bass example really shows how this sweet treat rocks stems. Was this a stereo bass doubled? Or was the mono bass duplicated across the L/R of the bass input?
Is this essentially 4 bus compressors that can be affected by multiple sources? Love the idea of the stems staying true but not quite understanding the connection between the sets.
I just realized, I never put the user guides up since launching the new website, and I probably won't get them up until the new year. If you send me an e-mail at info@goly.dk, Ill send it to you. It has a signal flow diagram in it, so you can see how the unit is set up internally.
It is different, for one, you have separate control of the mixes and returns, and you still have the stems available with compression "as if" the single stem was part of the whole in terms of processing. It would be more like setting up a side chain mixer going to 4 separate compressors with an adjustable mix and gain to each, retaining their individual outputs, as well as summing to stereo. If you go to www.goly.dk, there is a signal flow chart in the user guide you can check for reference :)
@@isc4915 I am not sure what that means! (Are you using the term side chain in the sense this old guy hears it being used by EDM producers? If so, I think, maybe, yes). Check goly.dk - theres a user guide, where you can see the routing and processing. Will probably clear it up for you :)
What a brilliant design!!
Thanks :)
Hi, I'm attempting to build my first master chain with analog hardware and became interested in your products after seeing the Audio Animals review for the CrossComp. All your products look interesting and like I could get a lot out of them if I learned them properly. The CrossComp video gave me a very good idea of how it worked. With this one I'm not so sure as to how it works. Is this something akin to a Dangerous 2bus? Would I take the DB25 cable from my Aurora N and then hook up 4 stereo pairs to the Goly Stem Mix Compression Matrix? And from there, is the idea that I'd run four aux tracks/sub-mixes into it by using a different hardware insert on each aux track? Then print them and move onto the next process? I've had people steer me away from Goly because they thought it was too difficult to understand, but I see a lot of potential here once I have a better idea of what I'm working with. Thanks for the videos, I'm excited to hear all about what your products can do.
@viciousblissvideos the danger of treading new paths is, not everyone will be able to follow, because its outside of their daily systems of thought, or beyond what can be reached by their imagination or reasoning, so I understand the confusion completely.
Developing these units, the easy of use when you actually sit down with it and have the a-ha moment was always in the forefront. You will get it if you sit down with the unit, I guarentee it. We can talk about how to ride a bike and the physical forces at play all day, or you can get on the bike and try.
I understand people steering clear of what they dont see a use for/understand, but telling others to live within their own confinements seems odd to me.. I like to push the boundaries of what we can do and achieve, and love to find creative solutions to working with audio, so it might be a question of mindset.
There is an explainer for this unit on the channel - I believe its linked at the end of the video I am replying to here.
There is a signal/SC path overview in the user guide at goly.dk
It can help you to break it into parts. Do you understand a summing mixer part? Do you understand a compressor? Well, thats 80%, so you just need to understand how this thing handles its routing (look in the manual, goly.dk)
Same with the Crosscomp. Ive had e-mails from people asking "what it does", because they didnt understand the novel crosscomp feature, but in reality, they do understand the 2 channel dyanmic EQ and main functions.
I can get the idea, it would be better if I left out the functions I find to be fun and creative, and stripped it down to what people understand at sight, but then, I probably wouldnt have to much fun making these things, and something really important would be lost.
In essense,
You have 4 stereo inputs, and you can adjust the level on the first row
You can route each input to the side chain/compression detector on the second row
You can route the reaction/compression back to each stereo channel on the third row
There is an output per stem, so if you have drums on 1-2, you still just have drums on output 1-2, but they will compress as if they were part of the whole, so you can roll back your stems into the box.
The problem this solves is, when youre creating stems, and you mute a track, it no longer affects compression, but here, everything is still playing along and interacting, while you still get the benefit of isolated stem outputs.
There is also a stereo output, if you prefer to roll a mix direct.
ALL this is covered in the explainer.
If you do have questions, I believe its easier to communicate by mail and have a conversation, rather than do it in the comments section on youtube, and my mail is always open! info@goly.dk
I also think my US resellers offer returns within a given time frame, so you can try.
Hope that helps!
@@GOLY_DK Thanks for the detailed reply. I will be in touch via email and am looking forward to learning how these all work!
1:56 Stunning. The bass example really shows how this sweet treat rocks stems. Was this a stereo bass doubled? Or was the mono bass duplicated across the L/R of the bass input?
Thanks! And to get info on the mix and processing before hitting the stems - better ask Sigurdór Guðmundsson
Is this essentially 4 bus compressors that can be affected by multiple sources? Love the idea of the stems staying true but not quite understanding the connection between the sets.
I just realized, I never put the user guides up since launching the new website, and I probably won't get them up until the new year.
If you send me an e-mail at info@goly.dk, Ill send it to you. It has a signal flow diagram in it, so you can see how the unit is set up internally.
Can you explain how this is different than running 4 stereo side chains into one compressor that is a bus of the same 8 channels? Or is it the same?
It is different, for one, you have separate control of the mixes and returns, and you still have the stems available with compression "as if" the single stem was part of the whole in terms of processing.
It would be more like setting up a side chain mixer going to 4 separate compressors with an adjustable mix and gain to each, retaining their individual outputs, as well as summing to stereo.
If you go to www.goly.dk, there is a signal flow chart in the user guide you can check for reference :)
@@GOLY_DK So it's like using the sidechain of the sidechain on the stems themshelves?
@@isc4915 I am not sure what that means! (Are you using the term side chain in the sense this old guy hears it being used by EDM producers? If so, I think, maybe, yes).
Check goly.dk - theres a user guide, where you can see the routing and processing. Will probably clear it up for you :)