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Bingo, you nailed it. I couldn't quite think of what this reminded me of, but imaginext is definitely it. I bought quite a few sets for my kids when they were younger. They need to go back to the drawing board. And give us something unique.
I think that this thing would of been praised if it was released by imaginext as a MOTU cross over, but obviously it isnt. The orignial concept actually looked like a 80s maters of the Universe playset, this playset needs to be put on hold and rebuilt to look like the original concept that people voted for.
I have enough of the snake men, enough of Turtles of Grayskull, and enough of playsets. I just want Origins-style Blade, Stonedar, Modulok, Dragstor, and the rest of the vintage remakes at this point. I am fatigued.
I think that this is where we all are. But they want to dragg it and they want our money. I draw the line. Only buying original reissues and few Cartoon figures that I like.
Enough of bullshit...! Mattel is playing with the fans...making lines and crossovers that are completely TRASH...WE JUST WANT ALL THE VINTAGE FIGURES , PLAYSETS AND VEHICLES IN ORIGINS LINE like they promised
Current artists designing this playset have nothing whatsoever on the great artistry involved in toy concepts of the vintage MOTU line in the ‘80’s…It’s like they are ‘illiterate’ in so many ways
Yes. Colour keys are off, the accessories don’t gel with the overall lair theme. This would be a cool looking garage custom by a talented but untrained fan - which is what this looks like.
Im sure coloring will change a bit, but this defeinitely doesnt look like the concept art. Its been almost a year since they did that "vote", and in that years time, this is the best mockup they could come up with? I have a feeling this will not fully fund.
Imaginext is what this looks like. Imaginext is cool but this should have been what people voted for. They totally disregarded what the collector/fan was looking to get and it’s a misrepresentation of the actual render. I know Mattel did this to make more money on the set. I hate to say it but not sure this will get funded. If the price is high it won’t but if it’s reasonable I see it getting funded and if it doesn’t it will speak volumes to Mattel that the collector/fans should be listened too next time. This definitely could have been released at retail for 79.99 with its original clamshell design if you compare it to the iconic snake mountain we got this surely pales to comparison to that and the features we got with that are epic.
I was soooooo excited for this. And then they give us something that looks nothing like what we voted for. I honestly think this was porposeful. They were like no, you didn't pick the thing we wanted you to, so cluster bleep, cluster bleep, toddler mess. Here ya go.
We already have a Snake Mountain, which is why I voted for the Fright Zone redux. This won the vote though, so hopefully that means it will sell well enough not to tank the toyline.
My first thought was "Castle Zendo" from The Otherworld line of toy's in the 80's (my God I'm old). I enjoyed the playset and it was cheap and imaginative for the time. I suspect they're not sure who their customers are anymore. If I was 8 years old I'd want this, but what kid can afford 300+ for a toy in this economy? If you go online there are a variety of creators that will show you how to make far cooler custom playlets.
So, there's a video from Pixel Dan, speaking to the Mattel Senior Director of Product Design about the Snake Lair. The "concept" behind this particular design and it being an evolution of the concept art that was voted for, is that the original art was the Snake Lair in Preternia times. That what they designed is now a fast forward to a future Eternia, where Lady Slither is apparently a LICH QUEEN and the lair has evolved and adapted over time. Absolute revisionist bullshit excuse to justify them completely changing both the original design we voted on as well as the lore to suit what they want to sell. Making it up as they go along is what they did here. The vote art was a more Grayskull/Snake Mountain sized and designed castle, which would have been fine with a few additions to make it deluxe. Absoulety NO ONE wanted or asked for another Eternia sized (and priced) play set and that's what we are getting.
It’s like them taking eternia and totally deviating from its design and giving us a totally revamped concept. It’s disappointing. That set looks like an amalgamation of different parts that don’t fit together. It’s not the iconic eternia it’s not snake mountain or castle grayskull. It’s basically a new playset they should have left alone and rendered it the way the concept was cause it totally changed what this is now.
Just because they showed off artwork of this thing on products before Eternia's Choice, doesn't mean that was going to be the final design. What Mattel showed off at SDCC this year is an improvement, and we even get a vehicle.
Collectors always seem to complain, right? But I think this playset is pretty cool. It's got all the good stuff from the concept art, just shuffled around a bit. The extra bits are fun and make it more interesting to play with. Only downside is it's too big and (probably) pricey, I give you that.
I don't collect Motu but I think it looks pretty cool, if people think this looks like an Imaginext playset then Snake Mountain is on the same level, it's just nostalgic for people so they don't see it that way
I'm an Origins completionist, and hard as it was, I skipped Eternia. At this point, seeing yet another Snake Men thing, it's just burnout on top of burnout. This is not only a pass, but a pass that I will be happy about.
Its a disappointing move from mattel, it was not the same lair completely different its only a cash grab for an expensive playset that some others will not get the only thing that matters is what would be the tiers to unlocked
Oh god it does! 😂 From the sketch, I and many others thought it would be a clam shell lair like Grayskull and Snake Mountain. But it's Eternia sized and doesnt look much like the sketch! I may have gone for it if it was Grayskull sized. I'll probably just buy another Snake Mountain and repaint it!
Nope, not for me. It does not lopk ancient at all. Looks like new neighbors coming into town. Why is the big snake-head green. Does not look mysterious and ancient to me. I mean this thing is supposed to be much older than Grayskull or Snake Mountain... 😢
Unfortunately, I didn’t vote for this, liked the evil horde one better and looks a ‘cheap’ set, like an imaginex set! Got every origins release so far but might give this a miss! 😢 ps, nothing like the artist pic advertised! 😢
It's a cool play set in its own right, however it somehow misunderstands the assignment. I was expecting something a little more travel ready myself. Where a kid could pack in a few figures and take it over to a friends house, or easily move to another room if need be. This seems a little more involved. In any case it all comes down to money for me. I was prepared to pay somewhere in the$150-$200 dollar range. I'm pretty sure this isn't anywhere near that.
With this toy set size was key. I’ve been collecting orgins from day 1 & I only have the grey skull. It’s small enough for shelf but big enough for awesomeness. This has the wow factor but it’s huge & I’m sick of campaigns. If this had been grey skulls size & under $100, I could have made space, and even got into the snake men (as of today I have 0 snakes). And offered it up as a creation exclusive & not campaigned. PASS but it does look cool
Very interesting looking but has no tie to any media or anything that’s gone before - wasn’t Snake Mountain the Snake Men’s lair anyway. This is a no from me and I can’t believe this won a fan vote. Slime Pit, Fright Zone, Battle Bones and the Cannon movie figs should be made out of the plastic Mattel would waste on this.
It looks awful. There was a certain aesthetic the artwork version had that was very elegant. This looks like the Snake version of Liberace went crazy all over it.
Wrong colour, doesn't look like the image that was voted for, it's waaaayyyy too big and will probably be way over priced. I didn't vote for the lair, I was in for the Attack Trak or Horde Tank as my main picks. So I doubt I will be going in on this thing. Especially since I just went in on the Cobra Rattler Haslab. This really is a wasted effort on something that turned out super disappointing.
Malaysia won't be importing anymore MOTU products. Mattel Malaysia not bringing them in. Malaysians also not allowed to buy from Mattel creations. Time to quit this line.
It looks much better than the art and concepts to me, but I doubt I'll back it because I don't have a lot of room and I'll need space for the G.I. Joe HISS Tank, Dragonfly, and now the Rattler. Plus, if it's priced anything like Eternia, it'll be too pricey for what we get, IMO.
Agreed. Even though I was never going to buy this, I'm no longer getting large playsets. They really just completely missed the ball on this. They need to scratch everything and restart. Give us something that's not been done before something unique
"Hope it doesn't fund." WTF. I love it. I hope it does fund, because at least it will continue the line. If you don't like it, don't buy it? Saying you hope it doesn't fund is like shooting yourself in the foot for the possiblity of the future of the line.
They went too far with it, a little goofy and a mess- and way too big, which means too much money. I don’t think it will fund…should have stuck with the more original concept that would be like Grayskull or Snake Mountain, and kept it that size, maybe under a $200 price point…I’m not going to get it. Plus I’m kinda sick of snake men lol
Haven’t voted for it as well, and the design they are showing in this prototype does not appeal to my taste. That said even if it was the same price as snake mountain, would skip this as shelf space is precious and I cannot afford to keep collection items that I do not care for.
We saw the concept drawing, we saw the snake lair on some backcards of figures, but what we see here, has nothing to do with what we've voted for. This looks like a big accident. How can they present this to us? Were the designers blind? I doubt we will ever figure out, but that's just #notmylair
Enough of bullshit...! Mattel is playing with the fans...making lines and crossovers that are completely TRASH...WE JUST WANT ALL THE VINTAGE FIGURES , PLAYSETS AND VEHICLES IN ORIGINS LINE like they promised
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For me, it's a no-go to big and the rumored price.
Bingo, you nailed it. I couldn't quite think of what this reminded me of, but imaginext is definitely it. I bought quite a few sets for my kids when they were younger. They need to go back to the drawing board. And give us something unique.
i looks like a chap mei playset.
It looks nothing like the concept drawing, I want my vote back.
I think that this thing would of been praised if it was released by imaginext as a MOTU cross over, but obviously it isnt. The orignial concept actually looked like a 80s maters of the Universe playset, this playset needs to be put on hold and rebuilt to look like the original concept that people voted for.
I have enough of the snake men, enough of Turtles of Grayskull, and enough of playsets. I just want Origins-style Blade, Stonedar, Modulok, Dragstor, and the rest of the vintage remakes at this point. I am fatigued.
I think that this is where we all are. But they want to dragg it and they want our money. I draw the line. Only buying original reissues and few Cartoon figures that I like.
Same here!
Seconded
The snake lair was here.
Enough of bullshit...! Mattel is playing with the fans...making lines and crossovers that are completely TRASH...WE JUST WANT ALL THE VINTAGE FIGURES , PLAYSETS AND VEHICLES IN ORIGINS LINE like they promised
I definitely prefer the concept and comic art depictions, as well as the smaller size. I agree, this is very Imaginext style and not MOTU enough.
Don't need it. If it was fright zone, then that's a hole nother thing 😮
Voted also for Fright Zone! (but the classic one, not bigger than the original)
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Best description i've seen! Imaginext
Current artists designing this playset have nothing whatsoever on the great artistry involved in toy concepts of the vintage MOTU line in the ‘80’s…It’s like they are ‘illiterate’ in so many ways
Yes. Colour keys are off, the accessories don’t gel with the overall lair theme. This would be a cool looking garage custom by a talented but untrained fan - which is what this looks like.
Im sure coloring will change a bit, but this defeinitely doesnt look like the concept art. Its been almost a year since they did that "vote", and in that years time, this is the best mockup they could come up with? I have a feeling this will not fully fund.
Personally, I'm loving this playset. Not sure if I'll back but I do like it!
You hit the nail on the head with it looking like imaginext
Imaginext is what this looks like. Imaginext is cool but this should have been what people voted for. They totally disregarded what the collector/fan was looking to get and it’s a misrepresentation of the actual render. I know Mattel did this to make more money on the set. I hate to say it but not sure this will get funded. If the price is high it won’t but if it’s reasonable I see it getting funded and if it doesn’t it will speak volumes to Mattel that the collector/fans should be listened too next time. This definitely could have been released at retail for 79.99 with its original clamshell design if you compare it to the iconic snake mountain we got this surely pales to comparison to that and the features we got with that are epic.
The more I look at it, the more it ssssssssssucks!
@@carlwilliams856 😅
I completely forgot we've seen it on box art! So why so different?!!?
I’m buying this no matter what the price is. I don’t care what fans say about it. IM GONNA GET IT!
I was soooooo excited for this. And then they give us something that looks nothing like what we voted for. I honestly think this was porposeful. They were like no, you didn't pick the thing we wanted you to, so cluster bleep, cluster bleep, toddler mess. Here ya go.
Yes a letdown. It's supposed to look ancient, Next to Eternia, Castle Grayskull should be the biggest and most intimidating.
Liked the original artwork and smaller size. This is too big and does not feel very MOTU to me.
We already have a Snake Mountain, which is why I voted for the Fright Zone redux. This won the vote though, so hopefully that means it will sell well enough not to tank the toyline.
My first thought was "Castle Zendo" from The Otherworld line of toy's in the 80's (my God I'm old). I enjoyed the playset and it was cheap and imaginative for the time. I suspect they're not sure who their customers are anymore. If I was 8 years old I'd want this, but what kid can afford 300+ for a toy in this economy? If you go online there are a variety of creators that will show you how to make far cooler custom playlets.
So, there's a video from Pixel Dan, speaking to the Mattel Senior Director of Product Design about the Snake Lair. The "concept" behind this particular design and it being an evolution of the concept art that was voted for, is that the original art was the Snake Lair in Preternia times. That what they designed is now a fast forward to a future Eternia, where Lady Slither is apparently a LICH QUEEN and the lair has evolved and adapted over time. Absolute revisionist bullshit excuse to justify them completely changing both the original design we voted on as well as the lore to suit what they want to sell. Making it up as they go along is what they did here. The vote art was a more Grayskull/Snake Mountain sized and designed castle, which would have been fine with a few additions to make it deluxe. Absoulety NO ONE wanted or asked for another Eternia sized (and priced) play set and that's what we are getting.
It’s like them taking eternia and totally deviating from its design and giving us a totally revamped concept. It’s disappointing. That set looks like an amalgamation of different parts that don’t fit together. It’s not the iconic eternia it’s not snake mountain or castle grayskull. It’s basically a new playset they should have left alone and rendered it the way the concept was cause it totally changed what this is now.
Looks pretty cool but probably too expensive .
Thanks, Mattel. I hate It.
Just because they showed off artwork of this thing on products before Eternia's Choice, doesn't mean that was going to be the final design. What Mattel showed off at SDCC this year is an improvement, and we even get a vehicle.
Congratullations for your channel...! Vintage or Origins are the only and REAL MOTU
It's a real disaster! My God how horrible!🤦♂️
Collectors always seem to complain, right? But I think this playset is pretty cool. It's got all the good stuff from the concept art, just shuffled around a bit. The extra bits are fun and make it more interesting to play with. Only downside is it's too big and (probably) pricey, I give you that.
Looks awesome. Day one crowd fund pledge!
I'm not really feeling it with this playset. Probably because it's new and it wasn't there in the original toys.
My feelings exactly.
I don't collect Motu but I think it looks pretty cool, if people think this looks like an Imaginext playset then Snake Mountain is on the same level, it's just nostalgic for people so they don't see it that way
It’s nothing like the concept art. That is the major problem.
This looks nothing like the image during the voting exercise. Man what a let down
I'm an Origins completionist, and hard as it was, I skipped Eternia. At this point, seeing yet another Snake Men thing, it's just burnout on top of burnout. This is not only a pass, but a pass that I will be happy about.
Its a disappointing move from mattel, it was not the same lair completely different its only a cash grab for an expensive playset that some others will not get the only thing that matters is what would be the tiers to unlocked
Oh god it does! 😂 From the sketch, I and many others thought it would be a clam shell lair like Grayskull and Snake Mountain.
But it's Eternia sized and doesnt look much like the sketch! I may have gone for it if it was Grayskull sized.
I'll probably just buy another Snake Mountain and repaint it!
Nope, not for me. It does not lopk ancient at all. Looks like new neighbors coming into town. Why is the big snake-head green. Does not look mysterious and ancient to me. I mean this thing is supposed to be much older than Grayskull or Snake Mountain... 😢
Unfortunately, I didn’t vote for this, liked the evil horde one better and looks a ‘cheap’ set, like an imaginex set! Got every origins release so far but might give this a miss! 😢 ps, nothing like the artist pic advertised! 😢
It's a cool play set in its own right, however it somehow misunderstands the assignment. I was expecting something a little more travel ready myself. Where a kid could pack in a few figures and take it over to a friends house, or easily move to another room if need be. This seems a little more involved. In any case it all comes down to money for me. I was prepared to pay somewhere in the$150-$200 dollar range. I'm pretty sure this isn't anywhere near that.
With this toy set size was key. I’ve been collecting orgins from day 1 & I only have the grey skull. It’s small enough for shelf but big enough for awesomeness. This has the wow factor but it’s huge & I’m sick of campaigns. If this had been grey skulls size & under $100, I could have made space, and even got into the snake men (as of today I have 0 snakes). And offered it up as a creation exclusive & not campaigned. PASS but it does look cool
Very interesting looking but has no tie to any media or anything that’s gone before - wasn’t Snake Mountain the Snake Men’s lair anyway. This is a no from me and I can’t believe this won a fan vote. Slime Pit, Fright Zone, Battle Bones and the Cannon movie figs should be made out of the plastic Mattel would waste on this.
It looks awful. There was a certain aesthetic the artwork version had that was very elegant. This looks like the Snake version of Liberace went crazy all over it.
Wrong colour, doesn't look like the image that was voted for, it's waaaayyyy too big and will probably be way over priced. I didn't vote for the lair, I was in for the Attack Trak or Horde Tank as my main picks. So I doubt I will be going in on this thing. Especially since I just went in on the Cobra Rattler Haslab. This really is a wasted effort on something that turned out super disappointing.
Malaysia won't be importing anymore MOTU products. Mattel Malaysia not bringing them in. Malaysians also not allowed to buy from Mattel creations. Time to quit this line.
Sad case
I hated the concept art with those big stupid faces all over it. I love this one! I want to back it but I don't know what the price is yet.
It looks much better than the art and concepts to me, but I doubt I'll back it because I don't have a lot of room and I'll need space for the G.I. Joe HISS Tank, Dragonfly, and now the Rattler. Plus, if it's priced anything like Eternia, it'll be too pricey for what we get, IMO.
Not liking it, Wanna listen as simple play set the size of snake Mountain sub 250 so everyone could afford it this thing sucks
Too big, not a vintage release, and looks nothing like what people voted for. Hope it doesnt fund.
Ya
I hope it does. I love it
Agreed. Even though I was never going to buy this, I'm no longer getting large playsets. They really just completely missed the ball on this. They need to scratch everything and restart. Give us something that's not been done before something unique
"Hope it doesn't fund." WTF. I love it. I hope it does fund, because at least it will continue the line.
If you don't like it, don't buy it? Saying you hope it doesn't fund is like shooting yourself in the foot for the possiblity of the future of the line.
They went too far with it, a little goofy and a mess- and way too big, which means too much money.
I don’t think it will fund…should have stuck with the more original concept that would be like Grayskull or Snake Mountain, and kept it that size, maybe under a $200 price point…I’m not going to get it. Plus I’m kinda sick of snake men lol
To "ME" it looks to CGI 🤦♂️
My guess. Won’t sell well.
Haven’t voted for it as well, and the design they are showing in this prototype does not appeal to my taste. That said even if it was the same price as snake mountain, would skip this as shelf space is precious and I cannot afford to keep collection items that I do not care for.
We saw the concept drawing, we saw the snake lair on some backcards of figures, but what we see here, has nothing to do with what we've voted for. This looks like a big accident. How can they present this to us? Were the designers blind? I doubt we will ever figure out, but that's just #notmylair
I don’t want that. I want the fright zone and slime pit.
Enough of bullshit...! Mattel is playing with the fans...making lines and crossovers that are completely TRASH...WE JUST WANT ALL THE VINTAGE FIGURES , PLAYSETS AND VEHICLES IN ORIGINS LINE like they promised
I pass
Easy pass for me. Who would want that abomination displayed in their collection. Big fail Mattel.
Hard pass on the "Snake Mountain."
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I voted for this because it would have been cool for the CONCEPT ART to exist for real. What’s this garbage?
Looks not what people vote for.
Not for me Mattel. Looks ugly.
Better you make good vintage origins releases MC.
Will save my money for this