From my knowledge, not saying that I am 100% accurate, and experience on a county gravel road crew, gravel weighs a lot more than most other transported substances. Coal, which is what most people are used to seeing in a open hopper rail car, has a density of 43-57 lb/ft^3. Gravel on the other hand has a density of 95-105 lb/ft^3, around twice as much as coal. This means that for the same weighted amounts of coal and gravel, the coal will take up approximately twice as much space. Now like a semi on the highway, a train(car) can only weigh so much to prevent damage to the roadway, road bed, or bridges along the route. So, yes you are mostly right in saying that each car gets a 'pre-specified amount.'
Generally, a loaded car of any product will have approximately 100 tons of the commodity, although that's not an absolute. The ruling factor is the maximum allowable weight per axle, which in turn is determined by how much the rails can carry over the route of the train. A "fully loaded" car can weigh as much as 286,000 pounds. As SabbathKeeper24 points out, the actual volume loaded to a car to reach 100 tons will vary according to the density of the product. In this case, it seems likely the density of gravel results in the volume seen here to reach 100 tons. If you observe loaded coal hoppers, you'll see those cars are fuller than what we see in this video.
The total load the train can pull (engines, terrain, etc) is generally spread evenly over the length of the train. More cars usually means less per car, up to the limits of the other factors involved.
Great video. Simple operation and efficient. I assume the actual mine is away from the load out? Trucks deliver to the stock pile and the front end loaders feed the conveyors. Cool operation.
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The wagons are too many and the loading times are long and uneconomical, to halve the times it would be more useful to have another conveyor belt (yellow) bowed to the right of the tower and a type more efficient overall loading.
The loading was all based on how fast those two front end loaders could load the hoppers feeding the conveyors. More loaders = more money in fuel, maintenance and wages. Fill the trains faster and what, work half a day?
@@MsMsmak efficiency of scale is all based on the size of the overall operation,terrain and market. It was stated that the quarry was 3 miles away, in WV this might be the only flat area available for this operation or its repurposed railroad property. There's probably not enough profit to justify overhauling the entire operation to tweak a few more cents per ton. Looks to me like its pretty effective. 300-400 tons loaded in the length of this video. Also when spotting a train that weighs 1000s of tons empty and gets 10000s heavier as its loaded, takes a little time.
whoever is in control of the forward movement of the cars needs a punch in the head, loading ore cars offset like that with more weight in one end compared to the other can cause derailments
Good video. Good drone footage. I like all of the different angles you shot footage at.
I can watch this all day 24-hours
Nice drone work, TY
Thank you for making and sharing this video. I will be using it as reference for my model railroad
That area would make a great layout.
my home town. when i was young this was the Virginian Rail Road. the large facility in the back was where rail cars were repaired and rebuilt.
Thanks for adding the sound; good job with the sync.
That would make a neat scene on a model train layout.
Those pivoting conveyors are awsome,a person in the tower next to them is controlling the rail car loading operation.
Pretty cool, but why not fully load them? Weight?
Nice Drone Footage. I read somewhere that the gravel loaded there is scrubber stone for a North Carolina coal power plant.
They have several grades of gravel. I have plans to talk to the train engineer to see where he delivered to. Would love to video the unloading.
why only half full?
You don't fill all the cars up ? They all look 3/4 of the way full .
Tonnage, not volume.
Is each car getting a pre-specified amount, rather than filling the car out? Looks like each car has room for more gravel....
I do not know . It looks like the amount is the same for each car.
From my knowledge, not saying that I am 100% accurate, and experience on a county gravel road crew, gravel weighs a lot more than most other transported substances. Coal, which is what most people are used to seeing in a open hopper rail car, has a density of 43-57 lb/ft^3. Gravel on the other hand has a density of 95-105 lb/ft^3, around twice as much as coal. This means that for the same weighted amounts of coal and gravel, the coal will take up approximately twice as much space. Now like a semi on the highway, a train(car) can only weigh so much to prevent damage to the roadway, road bed, or bridges along the route. So, yes you are mostly right in saying that each car gets a 'pre-specified amount.'
Generally, a loaded car of any product will have approximately 100 tons of the commodity, although that's not an absolute. The ruling factor is the maximum allowable weight per axle, which in turn is determined by how much the rails can carry over the route of the train. A "fully loaded" car can weigh as much as 286,000 pounds. As SabbathKeeper24 points out, the actual volume loaded to a car to reach 100 tons will vary according to the density of the product. In this case, it seems likely the density of gravel results in the volume seen here to reach 100 tons. If you observe loaded coal hoppers, you'll see those cars are fuller than what we see in this video.
@@omcgrmc9619 quantitative loading system is for loading the same amount for each car
The total load the train can pull (engines, terrain, etc) is generally spread evenly over the length of the train. More cars usually means less per car, up to the limits of the other factors involved.
Great video. Simple operation and efficient. I assume the actual mine is away from the load out? Trucks deliver to the stock pile and the front end loaders feed the conveyors. Cool operation.
The rock quarry is about 3 miles away.
Dude at 1:00 that looks so trippy
I got a big cement plant by my house and one night a freight train was being loaded at night.
Good morning, how are you? Congratulations, this charging system is very good. I would like to get more information about the system. I am a student of railway engineering and I would like to design a system for loading wagons for limestone ore in a mine
So that takes all month?
Near Bluefield where I would go see the Orioles and Rays play each other.
when the cars are being loaded, are they on a scale? so each is filled to the same weight?
No
That’s a lot of cars to fill, has to take hoursssss
is the locomotive controlled remotely? :- º
No, it has an engineer.
Nice vid
How much TPH is a loading capacity??
very cool.
Show the locomotives next time
I guess the thumbs down people don't enjoy a good view.
bruh, I live like 4 miles from here
The wagons are too many and the loading times are long and uneconomical, to halve the times it would be more useful to have another conveyor belt (yellow) bowed to the right of the tower and a type more efficient overall loading.
The loading was all based on how fast those two front end loaders could load the hoppers feeding the conveyors. More loaders = more money in fuel, maintenance and wages. Fill the trains faster and what, work half a day?
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Like watching paint dry. There has to be a more efficient way of doing this than one wagon at a time.
Nope, it's how it's done. Coal is loaded differently, but theres more money in coal (or was).
And what do you suggest?
How about two loading stations instead of one?
@@MsMsmak efficiency of scale is all based on the size of the overall operation,terrain and market. It was stated that the quarry was 3 miles away, in WV this might be the only flat area available for this operation or its repurposed railroad property. There's probably not enough profit to justify overhauling the entire operation to tweak a few more cents per ton. Looks to me like its pretty effective. 300-400 tons loaded in the length of this video. Also when spotting a train that weighs 1000s of tons empty and gets 10000s heavier as its loaded, takes a little time.
Problem is “too far away to see anything worthwhile”
whoever is in control of the forward movement of the cars needs a punch in the head, loading ore cars offset like that with more weight in one end compared to the other can cause derailments
True statement. In these types of cars there should be two loading points situated over each truck and allowed to spill to the middle pocket.
Very slow way of loading.
lol show us a faster way Jimmy
Fairly poor effort in loading with the load offset