First Reference to ADHD Found to be in 1753 by Kloekhof
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- This short news item reports on a new journal article stating that the first reference to ADHD in the medical literature can now be pushed back to 1753 as the authorsled by Michiel van Kereebeek found a text in Latin by Dutch physician A. Kloekhof that describes a condition very similar to ADHD. Previously the first known reference to ADHD was in the German medical text by A. Weikard. So ADHD has now been shown to have a history of more than 270 years in the medical literature.
Reference:
The Beginnings of Attention Deficit in a Dutch 18th Century Medical Treatise. By M. van Kernebeek et al. (2024). Journal of Attention Disorders.
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You are a role model to me, Dr. Barkley. Your research not only saved me, but helps me explain mental models better via EF, and their effects as humans interact with software development tools.
We should start a club (may be not the right eg😊)or anything like that for ppl who benefited massively from Dr.Barkley. He opened many ppls eyes (including specialists in different fields & hence, some ppl benefited in a distinctive way. That collective experience which many of us learned after he opened the magic door, is very valuable. The widespread ignorance in ADHD field is very sad.
At this rate we will find the first cave drawing of ADHDs source before we find the fountain of motivation. Has somebody looked at that place you thought of earlier but then you had to google best GPS machine 2024?
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@@ianaustin5541I will never forget this comment, in 50-80 years when I retire I will think back on this comment... I made it, Ianaustin5541, I fricking made it!
And what makes you think they aren't researching THAT aswell?? So they can't let people know they've found a new, very early source describing the condition because we haven't found the source of motivation yet? (and by the way, I think there actually already ARE articles about that matter, to be honest!)
As always i so much appreciate your news update. What a treasure you are and have. Greetings from Basel, Switzerland
As a German speaker I've grown up with Hoffmanns stories - and always identified with Hans-guck-in-die-Luft (Johnny-look-in-the-air)😀
As a child I always identified with Fidgety Philipp and also Johny-look-in--the-air. Sadly Hoffmann didn't create a female version. Or someone with the combined type :(
I was at the Struwwlpeter Museum in Frankfurt and there is also a short history of ADHD. I can quite recommend it!
Wow! (1844
German psychiatrist
Heinrich Hoffman publishes stories of "Fidgety Phil" and "Johnny Head in the Air")
ARE YOU SERIOUS? This is SO awesome!!
Thanks Doc 🙃
It goes all the way back to yogi BCE. A person with what is essentially ADHD is described as a vatta mind. A mind like the wind
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I am very interested in your thoughts on late diagnoses people with ADHD in college?
How can some people "hide" their ADHD symptoms until they reach college?
Does the enviromental have a significant role in this?
Does a school routine and structure hide ADHD symptoms?
Does diagnosis come later in life because college are less structured?
hello, im this exact type of person! if you're interested, i can tell you my experience/opinion of it.
Hello, I was wondering if you had heard of the streamer called "Destiny" (real name Steven Bonnell). He has struggled with ADHD and, after previously being resistant to medication, has recently been more public in supporting ADHD research and science. I saw your video where you called out Jordan Peterson for his comments on ADHD and, because there was a video in which Destiny recently debated JBP, I was wondering if maybe you could try reaching out to Destiny to talk about ADHD to a wider audience.
Many people in his community subreddit have recommended your videos so I think it would be a pretty cool collaboration.
Thanks for your great videos. 🇦🇺👴🏻
Damn this is interesting.
Why doesn't my therapist seem to believe it exists then? Or my family? Or my friends? Should try harder, be more realistic, pay attention, be sensible. I know. Get my head out of the clouds, be normal.
BTW - love your work and figured that this is a place where I can make a contribution that quickly loses its connection with the topic and not be met with the usual eye rolls and moans.
What therapist?? Are they even a real certified therapist?
@@captainzork6109 I live in Germany - and I've had good experiences here.. My therapist is great in many ways but doesn't really get the creative brain,
@@sallyunderwood66 Ahh, Germany. I study psychology in the Netherlands, and we get a lot of Germans here ambitious for the field of clinical psychology. I hear 'psychologist' is quite the prestigious title over there, and spots in German uni are quite competitive
In either case, wouldn't an official diagnosis attenuate any doubts as to whether ADHD should be taken seriously or not? If you're not diagnosed, you could always ask your therapist if you could be referred to a specialist for assessment. Also, I think some sort of ADHD treatment is always worth looking into for people with ADHD. This is not to replace your current therapist, but as additional support. One can only be good at so many things, and if ADHD poses a problem for you, I think you deserve the appropriate help
Mr Bark, your work is awesome but how about we focus on what to do if you are trapped in the ADHD ""lifestyle""...how about solutions? thanks
Why isn’t Theophrastus’s characterization of one of his characters considered the first description of ADHD. He wrongly attributes it to a moral failing but it’s the first description of the cluster of symptoms in a person.
Thanks!
look in the caption, they were talking about the first reference in medical literature:)
@@thu-had5249 the definition of medical literature is relatively new and I’m not sure it wouldn’t have really existed back then. The books of philosophy etc were kind of that eras best understanding of the universe and humanity which is pretty much what gets encompassed in science and as it pertains to humans, medicine. He was essentially describing a character with observed traits and assessing what that meant. Seems like a vague definition of a medical characterization to me.
Can you please help me with something? It's a big ask but please I'm helpless. My father doesn't understand what ADHD is. He found videos online that ADHD is not real. I'm capable. I'm smart. Until 12 I had aced all the tests in school. I'm in a rut now. My father thinks stimulant medications have side effects. I want to go abroad, use medication and study. Can you please make a video explaining why medication is important and how ADHD symptoms affect someone's life? Please Dr Russell.
Would you be willing to do a video discussing the relationship between the 5 factor model and ADHD? After learning about the 5 factor model I've come to realize that individuals (myself included) that are higher in neuroticism seem to meet more of the criteria necessary for a positive ADHD diagnosis. I've also noticed that individuals with high neuroticism and low concientiousness seem to have more severe signs of ADHD. Could ADHD be the manifestation of individual personality variation?
Your last sentence was interesting to me, because I have often wondered the opposite - if adhd was a root cause for the development of one's personality.
Interesting point and probably a correlative aspect, but I feel like it's probably more the other way around or maybe a two-way interaction: Some signs of ADHD will present and alter one's behaviour and interests (compared to neurotypical people and normative development) and thus life trajectory quite early in childhood and thus in a very active stage of personality-development. Later on, especially novelty-seeking behaviour linked to dopamine-deficiency in ADHD could contribute highly to neuroticism as well as openness to experience.
My interesting (but anecdotal) personal experience with the big 5 was this: When taking a test some years ago I scored highest in conscientiousness and lowest in neuroticism. Then, about 2 years ago, I got my ADHD-diagnosis at 26 years and since then was able to drop a lot of masking-, anxiety- and other related behaviour and very recently scored highest on neuroticism when re-taking the big 5 assessment.
Edit: Some typos/small corrections
I found this on pubmed www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3821966/
It's worth a read.
There's a research paper on pubmed called "Adult ADHD Symptoms and Five Factor Model Traits in a Clinical Sample: A Structural Equation Modeling Approach" that's worth a read.
@@wallycheladyn1190 Interesting, thanks! I'll look into it.
The beginning of industrial revolution, makes completely sense.
In the Netherlands the industrial revolution didn't start until well into the 19th century. Even in the UK 1753 would have been too early to have had a fundamental impact. Historically, you can't draw a causation here
We can, but it doesn’t have to be true. And that’s our ✨superpower🪩 - you know, doing oopsie daisies!
@@Drnonstop yes, but in that case let's call those oopsie daisies correlations
@@Doeverdo you say oopsie tulip in dutch?
@@Drnonstop thats ridiculous, only the older population still says that
Thank you for all of your work on this subject. I'm curious if you've seen any research on the benefits (if any) of stopping stimulants on the weekends or for periods of time.
270 🤯
Kloekhof, from The Netherlands. A forgetful nation.
Why the hell would you say THAT??
@@SuperGladiator21 Because no Dutch GP ever heard of adhd before 2015.
@@feliciaschoenfeld5177 And you think GERMANY had??! what the hell is THAT supposed to mean?? these doctors at the time only described the SYMPTOMS they saw in these children (distraction, hyperactivity etc:) but didn't know what to MAKE of them and how to CALL them and whether or not they should be classified into a DISORDER! !! It's not like they said: "Oh, so they have difficulty concentrating, have poor organizational skills etc, let's call it ADHD! there! we have discovered a new disorder!" I think you're making QUITE some confusion here!!