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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • "Is this... New Eridu?"
    "First time?"
    "Well, not exactly. I've been here before, but it's been a while. What's new around here?"
    "Heh, come on. Take a look at this~"
    -Welcome to New Eridu!-
    Follow the official Zenless Zone Zero community for more news and events:
    Twitter: / zzz_en
    Discord: / discord
    Reddit: / zzz_official
    Facebook: / zzz.official.en
    TikTok: / zenlesszonezero
    #zzzero #NewEriduInvitesU #gamescom2023

Комментарии • 796

  • @masterofbloopers
    @masterofbloopers Год назад +1282

    Still no release date? You’re killin’ me, Hoyo! How much longer must we wait?! The game looks so good! Social mechanics like friendship levels and hangouts are some of my favorite game mechanics!

    • @AB-jt4rs
      @AB-jt4rs Год назад +236

      Chill, literally all HoYo games took at least 2 years after announcement to get a release date. What makes you think this game is any different?

    • @oneofthekindscarf8612
      @oneofthekindscarf8612 Год назад +87

      Game definitely coming like middle of next year don't worry

    • @official3614
      @official3614 Год назад +29

      Chill buddy,TGS is coming soon,HYV clearly saved a lot for that

    • @HoYo_FILES
      @HoYo_FILES Год назад +42

      it's either late 2024 or early 2025
      be patient

    • @x_Psyduck_x
      @x_Psyduck_x Год назад +82

      @@AB-jt4rs to be fair ZZZ takes them way too long, last public beta was over a year ago, they never had that much of a gap between beta tests in other games development cycle. I guess they rework it heavily

  • @NineNinths
    @NineNinths Год назад +836

    I can’t wait for this game any longer, the soundtrack and style are just too good!!

    • @whiteangel3824
      @whiteangel3824 Год назад +4

      ⁠@@ishMAEL_ARCH😑so, no other great gacha games. If you say so.

    • @orein1880
      @orein1880 Год назад +3

      ​​@@ishMAEL_ARCH "no other good gacha games" my dude, my bro, my man or whatever you are this is hoyoverse most if not all they're games are good gacha games

    • @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777
      @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 Год назад

      So many games this year going for that hyperurban and/or hip-hop cyberpunk look.
      Hi-Fi Rush
      Street Fighter 6
      Bomb Rush Cyberfunk
      And we're slowly getting closer to this? Letsgoooo

    • @juncastillo3498
      @juncastillo3498 Год назад +1

      You can't wait any longer? What are you gonna do now that you can't wait any longer?

    • @user-kx4cf7iy5u
      @user-kx4cf7iy5u Год назад

      ooooooooooo

  • @LatifaFleuranza
    @LatifaFleuranza Год назад +501

    They actually listened. One of my major complains from the first test was that in the end gameplay comes down to just mashing button. But from this it looks like the characters have unique mechanics to them now. And that parry mechanic gonna be so fun.

    • @natewrites6397
      @natewrites6397 Год назад +3

      ​@@neptineauras6879i dont remember there being a parry, friend. Just a swap

    • @neptineauras6879
      @neptineauras6879 Год назад +8

      Wtf? I guess RUclips deleted my comment lol

    • @Mikedot
      @Mikedot Год назад +28

      The combat still looks unimpressive to me, to be real. It's very flashy, but there doesn't seem to be much flair.

    • @jaya.regalado5086
      @jaya.regalado5086 Год назад +27

      ​@Mikedot it won't be genshin at least

    • @kurohanamaiki5344
      @kurohanamaiki5344 Год назад +54

      ​@@Mikedotwell it's hoyoverse, even from the first trailer it's already flashy, so let it be
      And if the combat is very unimpressive for you, then you can play other game when it come out, no one force you to play, for me, it's already look perfect, these flashy styles at least can keep me awake when I play it

  • @Pherretfish
    @Pherretfish Год назад +184

    So what it looks like we’re getting
    -open explorable areas
    -mini games
    -interaction with characters
    -a day and night cycle
    -assists

    • @AB-jt4rs
      @AB-jt4rs Год назад +6

      That's quite literally stuff we already knew and played through over a year ago

    • @Pherretfish
      @Pherretfish Год назад +36

      @@AB-jt4rs not really? I don’t remember the cycling and the only open area place you could explore was the main one. Mini games definitely were not in the last test as well and can’t speak for the rest.

    • @AB-jt4rs
      @AB-jt4rs Год назад +3

      ​​@@Pherretfish
      In the beta, you could rest at the shop till certain times of the day lol. It also occurred naturally if I remember correctly.
      Yes that town was the only area you could explore, but let's be for real, literally nobody actually thought that it would be the only explorable area in the entire game lmfao

    • @xavierlynch1088
      @xavierlynch1088 Год назад +8

      Exploration? Nah it's just new mini hub areas

    • @Pherretfish
      @Pherretfish Год назад +4

      @@xavierlynch1088 that’s what I mean like the main area you’re in

  • @AB-jt4rs
    @AB-jt4rs Год назад +605

    1. Player hangout system confirmed
    2. Arcade system confirmed
    3. Characters seem to be using brand new techniques, and it appears that parrying has been added to the game!!
    So unbelievably hype for this game

    • @Kaltsit-
      @Kaltsit- Год назад +63

      This is perfect. Parrying is literally the only other thing that I was like “you know, I think it’d be cool”
      As a DMC fan, I’m overly hyped.

    • @AB-jt4rs
      @AB-jt4rs Год назад +25

      ​@@Kaltsit-yes it will definitely raise the skill ceiling for the combat which is good to hear

    • @upguess5360
      @upguess5360 Год назад +2

      Care to explain what is 1 and 2? Like are you going on a date with a player just like in Genshin?

    • @AB-jt4rs
      @AB-jt4rs Год назад

      @@upguess5360 I suppose hangouts would something like companion quests in Honkai Star Rail.
      Also the arcade system looks to be an area where you can play various mini games and stuff, hopefully for rewards that reset weekly

    • @Sholver
      @Sholver Год назад +1

      ​@@upguess5360Genshin players omg 💀

  • @midnightjudicator6551
    @midnightjudicator6551 Год назад +58

    Take all the time you need to make this game an absolute banger.

  • @Tectone
    @Tectone Год назад +229

    I am going to play the FUGG outta this
    (Also Nicole is my queen uwu)

  • @-Somebody-
    @-Somebody- Год назад +109

    This looks so nice! Great job!

  • @Raiaseldeth
    @Raiaseldeth Год назад +42

    It's been a year since we got news from the game. And now it looks even more beautiful. I hope we get more information of the updates they made

  • @MR_SALS
    @MR_SALS Год назад +184

    So y'all go drop the game?💀
    (Do I got to classify this is a joke?💀)

    • @f.b.iagent3971
      @f.b.iagent3971 Год назад +65

      They literally JUST released Honkai Star Rail, it’s a smart decision to spread your big title releases over a period of time

    • @Fran-kc2gu
      @Fran-kc2gu Год назад +26

      @@f.b.iagent3971many people don’t care about honkai and are just waiting for this game

    • @yorsh_cb
      @yorsh_cb Год назад +5

      ​@@Fran-kc2guno

    • @NewAngelGENESIS
      @NewAngelGENESIS Год назад +16

      ​@@yorsh_cbNah, they right.

    • @towa7916
      @towa7916 Год назад +14

      @@Fran-kc2gu Literally at least 1 in 3 Genshin players play Honkai Star Rail lmao

  • @FaiGal
    @FaiGal Год назад +14

    Pass me the aux cord every time new ZZZ promo drops. That ost is fire!

  • @Reon1995
    @Reon1995 Год назад +36

    Looks dope as usual I hope We get a release date or beta sometime soon.

  • @Kurokuroe
    @Kurokuroe Год назад +94

    HoyoVerse never misses with the ZZZ videos, can't wait for this. Love the bass!

    • @EthNet34756
      @EthNet34756 Год назад +5

      this was on the weaker sides. fraction of gameplay and still no release window

    • @user-kx4cf7iy5u
      @user-kx4cf7iy5u Год назад

      ooo

  • @fumomofumosarum5893
    @fumomofumosarum5893 Год назад +62

    I respect you guys so much. The dev talent is real.
    Looking forward to experience your game in action
    And hoping for a physical / console release : ) Looks like a perfect Switch experience - Good Luck!

    • @iphisnixi
      @iphisnixi Год назад +1

      i agree, but switch might be a bit of a stretch 😭 i don’t think the switch would be able to cope, considering i’ve heard this game is going to be available on ps5

    • @Sara_Valestein
      @Sara_Valestein Год назад +2

      We are still waiting for the announced Genshin Impact switch port to release btw ... so that tells you that they will never port anything on Switch . At least as long as Nintendo doesn't release a more powerful console

    • @donut1550
      @donut1550 Год назад +3

      It does remind me of a Switch game… 😅 but idk if it’ll work. Nintendo seriously has to make a better game console to keep up with how big games are getting

    • @user-kx4cf7iy5u
      @user-kx4cf7iy5u Год назад

      .-.

    • @user-kx4cf7iy5u
      @user-kx4cf7iy5u 11 месяцев назад

      .-

  • @Moxarae
    @Moxarae Год назад +22

    Might not be much after a whole year, but I still really look forward to this, it has so much potential.

    • @AB-jt4rs
      @AB-jt4rs Год назад +2

      True that. I love it when games have little mini-games so I'm so happy they added an arcade just for that, and apparently in the tuning test you can actually earn money by running the protagonists shop which is so cool.

    • @Akizathegoat
      @Akizathegoat Год назад

      @@AB-jt4rs holy shit that's good that will help earning money easly

  • @MeloettodioS
    @MeloettodioS Год назад +35

    🤨Wait, that's all?
    😭BUT I WANTED MORE! AND I WANT THIS GAME NOW!!!

    • @Mikedot
      @Mikedot Год назад +13

      My exact response. That showcase was weak.

    • @sittingcrowd912
      @sittingcrowd912 Год назад +1

      @@Mikedothow so?

    • @kurohanamaiki5344
      @kurohanamaiki5344 Год назад +1

      ​@@Mikedotyour comments are always like this, it's better they give us something than wasting their time for trying to suit your taste
      You can choose not to watch, or play the game when it release, they already polished and add more things there but you still say these negative stuff instead of giving some kind of idk, appreciation and feedbacks/recommendation on how to improve it
      Make your own game, let us see how amazing and tasteful your game will be, and how you showcasing them to people

    • @naganwhat8364
      @naganwhat8364 Год назад

      ​@@sittingcrowd912we had 15 (7 if you cut transitions) of actual gameplay in the entire trailer, not sure why so little, but it doesn't really matter anyway 🗿

    • @user-kx4cf7iy5u
      @user-kx4cf7iy5u Год назад

      ooooo

  • @Lorreis422
    @Lorreis422 Год назад +45

    It looks like Mihoyo are refining their animation skills on ZZZ for the upcoming remake of Honkai Impact 3rd. Can't wait to relive the story with this quality

  • @wreckingvi2265
    @wreckingvi2265 Год назад +93

    I love the fact that HYV turned so big that Gamescon needs them more than HYV need them as they are bossing in all platforms lol

    • @Genshinvn36
      @Genshinvn36 Год назад +1

      Because they looking for more Hoyo fans ❤

    • @Genshinvn36
      @Genshinvn36 Год назад

      Because they looking for more Hoyo fans ❤

    • @user-kx4cf7iy5u
      @user-kx4cf7iy5u 11 месяцев назад

      .-

  • @Fluffwah
    @Fluffwah Год назад +5

    *So fluffing stylish WOW 😱*

  • @kumpadri
    @kumpadri Год назад +23

    It's looking good as time passes. I don't care how long you develop this game. Just make it the perfect hoyo live action combat based rpg. Failure is not an option anymore.

  • @ThePsychoKween
    @ThePsychoKween Год назад +27

    These diverse and wild designs are exactly what I have been hoping to see in your other games (Honkai impact 3rd, Genshin, Star rail) and I am so so so happy to see such amazing designs and out their characters!

  • @NikzKana
    @NikzKana Год назад +2

    That last portion for the assists with that killer music was insaaaaaaane, I NEED THIS SONG! xD

  • @smangel6259
    @smangel6259 Год назад +8

    Man i can't wait to play it every day, hoyoverse so far never had let me down with their games

  • @lichtmond1482
    @lichtmond1482 Год назад +6

    love your editing as always ! so smooth

  • @seppuku404
    @seppuku404 Год назад +6

    Can't wait for this game. It's giving the persona ambience and im a huge persona fan.

    • @GG-jf6oq
      @GG-jf6oq Год назад

      Too late, can't keep up with other games. Project mugen and Wuthering wave will make this game ruined

  • @ListiArt
    @ListiArt Год назад +3

    Hobkai star rail released, and everyone talking about how its better than genshin. Now zzz is gonna release, and everyone is gonna talk about how its better than star rail.
    But i think we all know that these two are amazing games, but genshin is obviously better than them all❤️

    • @alexbittencourt1084
      @alexbittencourt1084 Год назад

      It is all up to personal preference. Each game scratches a different itch.

  • @CorvoA77ano
    @CorvoA77ano Год назад +4

    I am sincerely hoping that the gameplay loop is as fun they make it out to be in this video.

    • @felipecarneiro7154
      @felipecarneiro7154 Год назад +2

      Just wait until you need to farm for +20 characters perfect gear and stats...all of the same

  • @yqisq6966
    @yqisq6966 Год назад +3

    This is crazy. In the PV the music are synced to the parries - I have a feeling that it's gonna be implemented in-game and play like a rhythm game. Like in Tohou Project the bullet hell is synced to bgm.

    • @Kramer8
      @Kramer8 Год назад +3

      Marvel does that too in their trailers😂
      That doesn't mean it's rhythm game my guy

    • @user-kx4cf7iy5u
      @user-kx4cf7iy5u Год назад

      .-.

  • @carlosrosales3397
    @carlosrosales3397 Год назад +37

    Ya espero que lo anuncien oficialmente :D

    • @0ddllnn0
      @0ddllnn0 Год назад +10

      Técnicamente está anunciado y confirmado hace tiempo, lo que no hay es fecha de lanzamiento o beta publica jugable

    • @josejavierjorge3994
      @josejavierjorge3994 Год назад

      @@0ddllnn0 según el funcionamiento general de la empresa en sus últimos juegos, hay 3 CBT (betas) y luego confirmación y lanzamiento, la primera fue hace un año, de la segunda no se sabe nada, y la tercera ya bueno, no sé ni para qué pensarlo.
      El punto es que cuando lleguemos a la tercera, si no se acaba el mundo antes, podría salir la versión final al mes aprox, pero claro, es que seguimos sin saber de la segunda XD

  • @lockekimura228
    @lockekimura228 Год назад +12

    All the time you Need before release, this Is gonna be Great

  • @undead_corsair
    @undead_corsair Год назад +8

    Why is this game's vibe so unreasonably strong?

  • @ZhyrenStudios
    @ZhyrenStudios Год назад +11

    This game’s aesthetic is so unique wow

  • @TemariMikuru
    @TemariMikuru Год назад +6

    Can't wait for this to come out!

    • @GG-jf6oq
      @GG-jf6oq Год назад

      Too late, can't keep up with other games. Project mugen and Wuthering wave will make this game ruined

  • @Lehocuy
    @Lehocuy Год назад +1

    Will there be a Raid guild here?🤔 I hope there is😊

  • @CrossMight
    @CrossMight Год назад +7

    we really need new beta man its been an entire year 😓

  • @warwickfgd675
    @warwickfgd675 Год назад +3

    Когда игра?

  • @SlyI42
    @SlyI42 Год назад +2

    Ok I need this OST

  • @YisusCraist-io5ho
    @YisusCraist-io5ho Год назад +2

    ZZZ: the video game

  • @Blackzamasu
    @Blackzamasu Год назад +5

    Can’t wait it looks fire 🔥🔥

  • @piop640
    @piop640 Год назад +5

    CANT WAIT FOR IT

  • @chupaachuu
    @chupaachuu Год назад +3

    Finally a long awaited new trailer, I was so excited to see it at the show but I just can’t wait to finally know about it’s release date or AT LEAST YEAR, please give us some information soon! Hopefully at Tokyo Games Show🙏🥺💖

  • @Aikou_Devereux
    @Aikou_Devereux Год назад +5

    So excited for this game! Looks good and promising c:

    • @GG-jf6oq
      @GG-jf6oq Год назад

      Too late, can't keep up with other games. Project mugen and Wuthering wave will make this game ruined

  • @Retronyx
    @Retronyx Год назад +3

    Music is always a BANGER !!

  • @willlawlor2398
    @willlawlor2398 11 месяцев назад +2

    This OST goes unbearably hard

  • @Phantom19-YT
    @Phantom19-YT 6 месяцев назад +1

    The OST of this game is so good!

  • @DlolFace
    @DlolFace Год назад +1

    It's good that they add mechanic for evasion and parry but it's still such a missed opportunity not to add aerial movesets

  • @fumosaurus
    @fumosaurus Год назад +2

    Looks like it took really heavy inspiration from Persona series
    Which is not a bad thing

  • @demonboy3779
    @demonboy3779 Год назад +2

    Highly anticipating ZZZ & Wuthering Waves

  • @OzOMega
    @OzOMega Год назад +1

    Yooo the game is alive!

  • @A_CommenterForNow
    @A_CommenterForNow Год назад +1

    "We Wanna Participate! Where Can We Sign Up!" - Every ZZZ Waiters.

  • @erroldrommond9149
    @erroldrommond9149 Год назад +1

    the Music in this game is great.

  • @starsigma1155
    @starsigma1155 Год назад +3

    Loving the expansion of the tag in mechanics, it seems like characters will be able to either pull off unique dodges, attacks or parries/counterattacks on switch in now instead of just their respective ultimates. It looks absolutely amazing, but we need DATES.

  • @ibranflakes8954
    @ibranflakes8954 Год назад +2

    I am SOOOOOOOO pumped for this release. Soundtrack and art style is tooooo clean.

  • @gatsuyatsu
    @gatsuyatsu Год назад +2

    ZZZ LETS GO

  • @nobetaaa
    @nobetaaa Год назад +3

    Can’t wait till the game is released!!!

  • @cristiancruz4244
    @cristiancruz4244 Год назад +19

    Es increíble como aumentaron los efectos visuales una obra de arte 👏🏼

  • @Brieg_Skald
    @Brieg_Skald Месяц назад

    Wow ! I want to play those arcade games... in this game ! :D

  • @zhongtcheng3407
    @zhongtcheng3407 Год назад +1

    Here we get a similar system to Moon Ring of Honkai Impact 3's APHO2. Huge W!

  • @zlightning037
    @zlightning037 Год назад +3

    I dont know what needed fixing or refining but, I'm honestly quite glad that they're taking their time to put their best foot forward. I cant wait to play this game!
    Hopefully theirs a release date at Gamescom showing

  • @riclargo911
    @riclargo911 Год назад +3

    Killer track 🎶

  • @KyleFreezeAnimation
    @KyleFreezeAnimation Год назад +1

    Hopefully ZZZ will grow to be a game I like
    HI3rd, GI and HSR gameplay is so repetitive with farming system that forces you to grind everyday

  • @Aquald
    @Aquald Год назад +1

    Bro, this game is gonna be a real banger on release

  • @Seraphicia
    @Seraphicia Год назад +1

    Wheeee~ we can play test this time? 🤗

  • @felikslagoda
    @felikslagoda Год назад

    So when is the game? where to download no???

  • @MongolRGATA
    @MongolRGATA Год назад +1

    I need that OST right now
    I SAID RIGHT NOW

  • @creeshroom2941
    @creeshroom2941 Год назад +27

    Ждём эту игру всей вселенной

  • @thuglifeganyu7543
    @thuglifeganyu7543 Год назад +1

    EN voice is CONFIRMED!!!

  • @manucuevas7312
    @manucuevas7312 Год назад +1

    A Chimera of persona, monster hunter and splatoon, looks good!

    • @Mewtader2
      @Mewtader2 Год назад +1

      Forgot jet set radio and Bomb rush Cyberfunk

  • @GavinVengeance
    @GavinVengeance Год назад +8

    Everything looks on point! Can't wait to dive back into the hollows with all of my fellow proxies!

  • @bakedpotato8991
    @bakedpotato8991 Год назад +1

    Please tell me they are making a console release

  • @michaelgannon8364
    @michaelgannon8364 Год назад +1

    looking stylish as heeeell

  • @dazrtheking6441
    @dazrtheking6441 Год назад +1

    they are cooking we are gonna wait

  • @Genshinvn36
    @Genshinvn36 Год назад +1

    Every Games hoyoverse released looks same style and similar characters. But this game is the Bigest different, i'm really excited and looking for more fan of hoyoverse, who didn't play honkai or Genshin, but they'll fall in love with this new game.❤

  • @Novacandyyy
    @Novacandyyy Год назад +2

    Time to save my coins, Lord knows I dont wanna be f2p no more🙏🏽

  • @Umarweeb
    @Umarweeb Год назад +1

    pretty cool trailer, ngl

  • @TeriyakiOnline
    @TeriyakiOnline Год назад

    1:17 I'm pretty sure they switched Sokoku's typing. The colors on the swing are dark blue now like the rest of the ice characters and her weapon is freezing over.

  • @HateYou01
    @HateYou01 Год назад +1

    ааааааааааааааа аооаоаоа наконец-то хоть что нибудь про ZZZ вав🥹

  • @MrLeminecraftien
    @MrLeminecraftien Год назад +1

    The name of the music please?

  • @kaenut
    @kaenut Год назад +1

    Oh noo ,ZZZ accidentally wake up guysssss

  • @SagaEf
    @SagaEf Год назад +2

    my body is ready.

  • @spacetaco048
    @spacetaco048 Год назад +1

    I can't wait for the game to come out in 2123!!!!!!
    NO good game will ever be released in my life time!!!

  • @AmeliaMastervally
    @AmeliaMastervally Год назад +1

    Ugh its so vibey... I can't wait

  • @theodorus_55
    @theodorus_55 Год назад +3

    ZZZ will be an incredible experience!!!

    • @GG-jf6oq
      @GG-jf6oq Год назад

      Too late, can't keep up with other games. Project mugen and Wuthering wave will make this game ruined

    • @theodorus_55
      @theodorus_55 Год назад

      @@GG-jf6oq yeah sure buddy 😂👌

  • @draenor4801
    @draenor4801 Год назад +1

    >Hyped this shit too much.
    >Literally shown close to nothing.

  • @mormegil84
    @mormegil84 Год назад +6

    I love the character design in ZZZ. It's so different compared to Genshin and Honkai.

    • @RaykinaBreaker
      @RaykinaBreaker Год назад

      Different game have different theme and design.

    • @donut1550
      @donut1550 Год назад

      @@RaykinaBreakerYeah, but Honkai and Star Rail’s are so similar. And Genshin’s design is similar to Star Rail’s design too. And Houkai Gakuen 2 is basically an online and upgraded version of Houkai Gakuen 1
      ZZZ just has its own vibe 😅

  • @Ita-San
    @Ita-San Год назад +2

    Just played the Demo at Gamescom Cologne, it's sooo good!!! Got some merch as well!

  • @Uldan1988
    @Uldan1988 Год назад +1

    Music Beats are phenomenal

  • @ValiantStranger12
    @ValiantStranger12 Год назад +3

    Hey it's something. At least it's confirmation Hoyoverse is working on it😅😅😅

  • @maximus2910
    @maximus2910 Год назад +1

    They're doing everything except announcing the release date

  • @agntprometheus
    @agntprometheus Год назад

    Is this going to be turn based with dialogue over minimally animated still shots?

  • @hephaee
    @hephaee Год назад +1

    Very dope

  • @user-oc6of2cd5r
    @user-oc6of2cd5r Год назад +1

    My favourite part of the video was the one when you revealed release date.

  • @justremathings
    @justremathings Год назад +1

    FOR ALL Y'ALL GAMES CON IS GONNA BE STARTING AUGUST 27th CANNOT WAIT FOR ZZZ RELEASE DATE ANOUNCEMENT

  • @ded499
    @ded499 Год назад +1

    Brooooooo this is going to be epic

  • @ShadowArabesque
    @ShadowArabesque Год назад

    21:9 aspect ratio, NICE!!

  • @FromSebb
    @FromSebb Год назад +1

    Is this game coming to Xbox also?

  • @upguess5360
    @upguess5360 Год назад +3

    THE WAIT IS OVER MY FRIENDS!!! Finally new content!

  • @bob-so2oy
    @bob-so2oy Год назад +3

    Ugh i just want it to be out already it looks too good 😭

  • @pinkyisok
    @pinkyisok Год назад +2

    Its looks soo good i cant wait for the final release. (!!!)

  • @LexyIndranata
    @LexyIndranata Год назад +2

    no release date? ok, next year prob