As someone who actually saw Gilbert play, I can say that his self titled "Winning Ugly" was appropriate. Gilbert was a better than average mover but had a less than average second serve and a mediocre forehand. He was a "pusher", which is a game style that still gives advanced players problems and, to some degree, explains his success when tennis was still somewhat of a second tier sport. It did not, however, bother Ivan Lendl who never lost to Gilbert. Brad has been quite successful as a celebrity and has been promoted as a tactician but when have you ever heard anyone promote Gilbert as a technician? What CoCo needed was a technician, similiar to the coach that Arnya Sabalenka brought in to improve her serve. What CoCo did not need was a "rah, rah, coach" to motivate her. That does not correct technical deficiencies. All of Gilber's success has come with players that were already very sound technically and athletically. He simply provided some emotional energy and came along for the ride. Wrong type of coach for a player who is still developing her game.
Brad was still valuable in that he taught Coco how to win with a subpar game. She didnt achieve all that until Gilbert got in her camp. The relationship simply ran its course as he had nothing else to teach her because he took her as far as she could go under his tutelage.
Coco is completely clueless with regard to the road to her own progress. She has horrible technique on the two most important shots in the game - the serve and the forehand. It is impossible to run her game with just that great backhand and footwork. She wakes up in the morning not knowing if she will through in ten double faults in a set. And no top player routinely misses standing forehands by fifteen feet. She believes that, in spite of huge flaws, she is a candidate for the #1 spot. Highly unlikely and more unlikely that she could maintain the position. Coco is unwilling to develop these two shots, if indeed she can at this point in her career. Gilbert is only guilty of not pressing hard enough, against Coco and her parents to change and learn. He picked her up days before her US Open win, the worst time to break down shots. But over the next year, he was unable to get her willingness. Gilbert is not a technique guy; so perhaps he would have needed outside technique help. That Weekend at Roddick’s was a bandaid, both because it was not enough time and because Roddick has not shown any ability to coach. That was just a clickbait visit to Roddick. One weekend? Ha! ilbert should have quit before Coco let him go. Coco needs to grow up.
@@AC-ss5oy how many cut and pastes of this meaningless comment do you, bitty boy, do you send out each day? Examine the content of my comments here. The first-hand knowledge demonstrated will never be in the purview of ai. “Pearls before swine…”
@@alexandermayer2026 it’s amazing the cupcake draws that she gets in all the tournaments. She usually gets to the quarterfinals of every single big tournament without having to play a top 20 player. It’s also amazing how the other top 10 players just seem to fade away before Coco has to play them. Also, her win loss record against top 20 players is terrible. She wins all these tournaments by beating players outside the top 20. It’s very curious how often when she finally has to play a top player in a semifinal or a final that player all of a sudden starts hitting crazy unforced errors. Take the 2023 Cincinnati when she was playing Iga and Iga just started hitting balls eight 910 feet out of bounds or halfway down the net.. Iga and Coco have played 11 times Iga won 10 of them. The only time eager lost was Cincinnati and it just so happened that all of the Talking Heads predicted that she was going to win Cincinnati. My point is the WTA is totally corrupt along with Brad Gilbert.
I think the Coco split is her loss. She may not be mature enough to understand and appreciate Brad. Although much younger, I likely played my best tennis while studying his book. Bad Brad!
Not a fan....too much drama and too little 'feel' for people he coaches..preferring to impose his 'one way fits all' approach (win ugly)..just my opinion..
He doesn't know when to shut up. I sat in front of him at Queens years ago and he was talking quite literally non stop to Robert Seguso and Craig Wittus and according to some sections of the press, that's one of the reasons Murray eventually dropped him. What we know of Murray suggests his personality is closer to that of Ivan Lendl than it is to Brad Gilberts. many people found his game hard to watch but he was a good solid player and I liked watching him play because he didn't look or play like the typical pro( so it gave me hope 🙂). Over the years he's gained a lot of notoriety firstly because of his book but also because of the success he's had with first Agassi then Roddick and apart from his work with those guys he hasn't really done much else. I don't know enough about coaching to say if he's a good coach or not but he generally hooks up with players who are already established in the game to some extent. It would be interesting to see how he would fare with someone ranked 350. He knows tennis but he isn't some Zen master.
@@sherryamanpour1531 have you seen the range of players Gilbert has coached. How do you come up with “one size fits all”? For all of us who played the tour and hit many, many bad patches and bad days, it was only the ones who could win ugly who pulled through and won. Winning matches without your best stuff are actually the most gratifying wins. Making your opponent play bad because you use the right strategy is better than making him okay well with the wrong strategy. Gilbert is a phenomenal on-tour match coach. I think he might be suspect on technical stroke production, so sorely needed by Coco. In any case, your Monday morning quarterback comment is worthless unless you made the same player play better
@@alexandermayer2026 --ha! ha! Another opinion I have..is only people with huge ego have to make someone wrong ("your comment is worthless') to make themselves right. People who are more evolved respect difference....Bet you didn't even notice I ended my opinion..'just my opinion'...Why is your opinion superior to mine or any others? Surely it couldn't be your ego..or could it?
@@sherryamanpour1531 no, my opinion is superior to yours because I have superior credentials and performance in playing, coaching and experience. I have earned my right to an opinion. You have evolved into yours through DEI, woke view of the nature of civilization. It is highly doubtful that you know Gilbert (I do), have heard his coaching sessions with players (I have), played Gilbert (I have), know Gilbert’s own coach (I do) and have coached another player to beating Gilbert (I have), and played doubles in an ATP event with Gilbert (we lost in the finals). Your worst nightmare has come to pass - someone who has first hand knowledge and expertise. You bring your feelings and outrage. Opinions do NOT have equal value.
@alexandermayer2026 ..how do you know my credentials to inaccurately state again you are right. Do you know me? That ego is shining here for all to see
'Winning Ugly" is one of the funniest, insightful books on sports you'll ever read. Highly recommended...
Silly headline, this is "The Coaching history of Brad Gilbert"
Great coach, an excellent tactician. Good player, but his game was ugly to watch. Colorful commentator. All in all, he's been good for the game.
As someone who actually saw Gilbert play, I can say that his self titled "Winning Ugly" was appropriate. Gilbert was a better than average mover but had a less than average second serve and a mediocre forehand. He was a "pusher", which is a game style that still gives advanced players problems and, to some degree, explains his success when tennis was still somewhat of a second tier sport. It did not, however, bother Ivan Lendl who never lost to Gilbert. Brad has been quite successful as a celebrity and has been promoted as a tactician but when have you ever heard anyone promote Gilbert as a technician? What CoCo needed was a technician, similiar to the coach that Arnya Sabalenka brought in to improve her serve. What CoCo did not need was a "rah, rah, coach" to motivate her. That does not correct technical deficiencies. All of Gilber's success has come with players that were already very sound technically and athletically. He simply provided some emotional energy and came along for the ride. Wrong type of coach for a player who is still developing her game.
Could not agree more. When I was reading your post, I had to check to make sure I was not the author!
Brad was still valuable in that he taught Coco how to win with a subpar game. She didnt achieve all that until Gilbert got in her camp. The relationship simply ran its course as he had nothing else to teach her because he took her as far as she could go under his tutelage.
Coco is completely clueless with regard to the road to her own progress. She has horrible technique on the two most important shots in the game - the serve and the forehand. It is impossible to run her game with just that great backhand and footwork. She wakes up in the morning not knowing if she will through in ten double faults in a set. And no top player routinely misses standing forehands by fifteen feet. She believes that, in spite of huge flaws, she is a candidate for the #1 spot. Highly unlikely and more unlikely that she could maintain the position. Coco is unwilling to develop these two shots, if indeed she can at this point in her career. Gilbert is only guilty of not pressing hard enough, against Coco and her parents to change and learn. He picked her up days before her US Open win, the worst time to break down shots. But over the next year, he was unable to get her willingness. Gilbert is not a technique guy; so perhaps he would have needed outside technique help. That Weekend at Roddick’s was a bandaid, both because it was not enough time and because Roddick has not shown any ability to coach. That was just a clickbait visit to Roddick. One weekend? Ha! ilbert should have quit before Coco let him go. Coco needs to grow up.
Great summary 👌
lol the bots are out.
@@AC-ss5oy how many cut and pastes of this meaningless comment do you, bitty boy, do you send out each day? Examine the content of my comments here. The first-hand knowledge demonstrated will never be in the purview of ai. “Pearls before swine…”
@@alexandermayer2026 it’s amazing the cupcake draws that she gets in all the tournaments. She usually gets to the quarterfinals of every single big tournament without having to play a top 20 player. It’s also amazing how the other top 10 players just seem to fade away before Coco has to play them. Also, her win loss record against top 20 players is terrible. She wins all these tournaments by beating players outside the top 20. It’s very curious how often when she finally has to play a top player in a semifinal or a final that player all of a sudden starts hitting crazy unforced errors. Take the 2023 Cincinnati when she was playing Iga and Iga just started hitting balls eight 910 feet out of bounds or halfway down the net.. Iga and Coco have played 11 times Iga won 10 of them. The only time eager lost was Cincinnati and it just so happened that all of the Talking Heads predicted that she was going to win Cincinnati. My point is the WTA is totally corrupt along with Brad Gilbert.
@@gorillamax4872 you have hit a new level of indiscernability. Let’s just start with the draws are made publicly and drawn from a hat. Wow.
What silence did Gilbert break?
This is just an AI summary of Gilbert’s career.
I saw him play once. You could see him thinking on the court.
He does not each technique more of a verbal talker As a coach I follow Vic Braden. We are different what works for the individual ,,
I think the Coco split is her loss. She may not be mature enough to understand and appreciate Brad. Although much younger, I likely played my best tennis while studying his book. Bad Brad!
That is why he wrote a book called Winning Ugly.
CLICKBAIT ALERT….! CLICKBAIT ALERT….! Video never explained the Coco and Gilbert controversy.
Bad calls... Gilbert was known to make bad calls as a player. Not above using gamesmanship to disrupt his opponents. Not well liked by fellow pros.
Gilbert's commentary is annoying and, at times, off point.
A better title for this video:
“AI Narrates from Wikipedia”
You didn't say anything
Not a fan....too much drama and too little 'feel' for people he coaches..preferring to impose his 'one way fits all' approach (win ugly)..just my opinion..
He doesn't know when to shut up. I sat in front of him at Queens years ago and he was talking quite literally non stop to Robert Seguso and Craig Wittus and according to some sections of the press, that's one of the reasons Murray eventually dropped him. What we know of Murray suggests his personality is closer to that of Ivan Lendl than it is to Brad Gilberts. many people found his game hard to watch but he was a good solid player and I liked watching him play because he didn't look or play like the typical pro( so it gave me hope 🙂).
Over the years he's gained a lot of notoriety firstly because of his book but also because of the success he's had with first Agassi then Roddick and apart from his work with those guys he hasn't really done much else.
I don't know enough about coaching to say if he's a good coach or not but he generally hooks up with players who are already established in the game to some extent. It would be interesting to see how he would fare with someone ranked 350. He knows tennis but he isn't some Zen master.
@@sherryamanpour1531 have you seen the range of players Gilbert has coached. How do you come up with “one size fits all”? For all of us who played the tour and hit many, many bad patches and bad days, it was only the ones who could win ugly who pulled through and won. Winning matches without your best stuff are actually the most gratifying wins. Making your opponent play bad because you use the right strategy is better than making him okay well with the wrong strategy. Gilbert is a phenomenal on-tour match coach. I think he might be suspect on technical stroke production, so sorely needed by Coco. In any case, your Monday morning quarterback comment is worthless unless you made the same player play better
@@alexandermayer2026 --ha! ha! Another opinion I have..is only people with huge ego have to make someone wrong ("your comment is worthless') to make themselves right. People who are more evolved respect difference....Bet you didn't even notice I ended my opinion..'just my opinion'...Why is your opinion superior to mine or any others? Surely it couldn't be your ego..or could it?
@@sherryamanpour1531 no, my opinion is superior to yours because I have superior credentials and performance in playing, coaching and experience. I have earned my right to an opinion. You have evolved into yours through DEI, woke view of the nature of civilization. It is highly doubtful that you know Gilbert (I do), have heard his coaching sessions with players (I have), played Gilbert (I have), know Gilbert’s own coach (I do) and have coached another player to beating Gilbert (I have), and played doubles in an ATP event with Gilbert (we lost in the finals). Your worst nightmare has come to pass - someone who has first hand knowledge and expertise. You bring your feelings and outrage. Opinions do NOT have equal value.
@alexandermayer2026 ..how do you know my credentials to inaccurately state again you are right. Do you know me? That ego is shining here for all to see
He’s corrupt
Corrupt?? What do you mean?
@@mateosimon4237 is this a rhetorical question or do you really wanna know?
@@gorillamax4872 I really want to know, i don't lIve in the States, i know him from the old days in the 80s
@@mateosimon4237 yeah … no answer … that’s what I thought
@@gorillamax4872 I answered but they deleted my comment i think. I said i am not from the States and that i really wanted to know
If I had it my way, I'd force him to become a full time chair umpire!
He's a dinosaur whose expiry date has passed.