Hey guys! Sorry for the late upload - had a friend over for dinner! Anyway, what do you guys think of the balance patch? I'm hearing lots of mixed responses from people across platforms.
Hard to say for a few of them: Pflan was underwhelming but welcome buffs nonetheless. Closer Charles has potential to be good but man his base stats suck so bad he’s still gonna need an EE. Dark meru seems meh. I still think Nakwol is better. Eligos seems really REALLY good, a huge win for cleavers since they haven’t had one since dark schuri. Chloe is hard to say since no one in the last 3 years has used her Yufine looks solid, a good f2p jacko. Could be an interesting lead into making units like Karina not event locked in a way. Singelica huge buffs, she’s very good now Sigurd is a mixed bag, inclined to dislike making it p2w but I like the universal attack increase. Overall a huge patch for f2p players, as Yufine, Singelica and Eligos are accessible and gearable. Making them strong keeps strong units universally accessible which is great for game health. But….another no FCC patch, dark meru not getting a buff that isolates her from Nakwol/ml Luna feels strange, and pflan still not getting a buff to justify playing her feels kinda bad. It’s just a bit of a mixed patch like you said, there’s plenty to be excited about but knowing this could be the last pflan change for 9 months feels dreadful. Thanks for the video Aza!
next ML5: 120 speed, starts stealth imune and effect null: non attack s3 putting magic nail AOE and "cannot activate other skills on turn". how creative you are, smilagate 😅
I think you misinterpreted the "Offer you cant refuse" artifact buff. Its not when attacking and an enemy is below 50% health after being attacked, but "After attacking with a single attack, when the target receives damage equivalent to 50% of max HP or more...". So Eligos or whoever is holding this needs to do that much damage in their single attack, not the target having less than 50% after the attack. So whoever in question (Eligos for example), would most likely only proc this from the time bomb on the cleaner, or maybe his S3 is attacking a really squishy unit. It's not a bad artifact, but not as easy to pull off as, "when enemy HP is 50% or below after attacking".
I like the idea behind PFlan's kit but needing a super limited artifact to make her work (and she isnt even the best at her "job") is kinda discouraging, I pulled her recently and was expecting it to be less necessary but... yeaaaah~ It feels bad pulling a super rare character to not being able to use them at all
The only thing about eligos vs asflan is, she is usually paired with harsetti who limits speed which he scales off of, unless I'm mistaken, bit he should still do enough damage to her
Sad we’re back to these types of balance patches again especially when season is ending soon. So many units became meta last patch. But I guess this patch isn’t as bad like when Ruele got 20%CR push lol.
@@pix1943 All things considered, it isn't a bad balance patch. All of the changes seem to be purposeful and not filler, especially following the massive one we had before. I'm okay with not having huge updates like the previous one simply because too many changes at once creates huge disturbances in the meta (and likely not in the way people hope...). The last update is one of the reasons why we have such a difficult meta to navigate right now, honestly.
I feel like if ml lots was not nerf he would made cool combo with some of this units. As for banshe i think the best answer for new players is schniel. Arch demon got really good changes but her stats just can't compete either they need to add more tickness into her s2 or give more speed to so she can combo with ml luna. Ml flan s1 steals one buff but can't shared to team wtf or atleast steal 2. Ml flan great skin but so lack luster from voice to skills what is next a nerf to the limited flan. Arch demon really deserve the buffs she was the 1st final boss and she was irrelevant and forgotten reall fast unlike belian and mort.
@@pokedude3221 85-100 EFF is the max you will reasonably want and can debuff pretty much anything in this meta. Anything with super high resist can be overcome with a soulburn. Most counter builds are between 160-180 SPD because she gains CR from her extra attack.
Stupid Cloe buff. It not gonna work because boss always dispell buff (apply prior). Smile gate only decrease her damage on her s3 she not gonna get attack buff. Ther is no boss in this game you can stun it pointless. I always use my queen before se got nerf(they reduce damage her s3 but reduce cool down too that make her damage overall lower than the past)
Balance patch kind of boring honestly. Eligos buff seems good but I don’t really have the gear to make him work (I guess I can degear Ran to try it out?). And really sad they took away the blind from archdemon. But I was already using her on fairytale artifact with full bulk/ER/Attack so this works for me
??? Ok dude, if that's the case then make the ML5 you licking boots off be more accessible to everyone than making the currency for it so limited, for a pvp focuse game, money still runs the game huh
@@STREEEEEET Why not? RGB5's should absolutely be on par with, if not better than, ML5's. Rarity should not dictate power. It's why I love it when they make 4* and even some 3* units viable in the meta. Specialty Changes were one of the best ways to introduce newer players into the PVP scene simply due to accessibility. Exclusivity sells in the early life of a game, especially gachas. However, this is a 6+ year old mobile game... accessibility sells now. It's why they're giving away so many free resources and free units while also selling fully enhanced equipment packs now. If the player base begins to shrink in a PVP based game, it's over.
@@azallea You're objectively wrong. Scarcity is what dictates value, that's why gold is valuable and rocks are not. Flood the market with gold tomorrow and it instantly loses value. I never said a ML hero should be miles better than a RGB but it should be always better., even if only 10% better. You can still make up for that difference with skill, a good draft and gear. In fact that's true already for some ML's, the top 10 best PVP unit are probably all ML's. As for retaining players, consider the other side of that coin, as F2P my last 3 ML's were F.Lidica, Archdemon Shadow and Baal and Sezan. The feeling of pulling 3 subpar ML's in sequence almost made me quit the game AGAIN. As returning player, my ML's are outdated and i then i pull 3 more outdated ones. Getting 3 ML's that goes direct to deposit is not a good feeling, i'll tell you that.
@@hlzion Agree. It should be more accessible indeed. I consider a fair gacha if by skipping a limited banner the game gives you enough currency to guarantee the next limited.
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Hey guys! Sorry for the late upload - had a friend over for dinner! Anyway, what do you guys think of the balance patch? I'm hearing lots of mixed responses from people across platforms.
Hard to say for a few of them:
Pflan was underwhelming but welcome buffs nonetheless.
Closer Charles has potential to be good but man his base stats suck so bad he’s still gonna need an EE.
Dark meru seems meh. I still think Nakwol is better.
Eligos seems really REALLY good, a huge win for cleavers since they haven’t had one since dark schuri.
Chloe is hard to say since no one in the last 3 years has used her
Yufine looks solid, a good f2p jacko. Could be an interesting lead into making units like Karina not event locked in a way.
Singelica huge buffs, she’s very good now
Sigurd is a mixed bag, inclined to dislike making it p2w but I like the universal attack increase.
Overall a huge patch for f2p players, as Yufine, Singelica and Eligos are accessible and gearable. Making them strong keeps strong units universally accessible which is great for game health. But….another no FCC patch, dark meru not getting a buff that isolates her from Nakwol/ml Luna feels strange, and pflan still not getting a buff to justify playing her feels kinda bad. It’s just a bit of a mixed patch like you said, there’s plenty to be excited about but knowing this could be the last pflan change for 9 months feels dreadful. Thanks for the video Aza!
What's better than listenting to Aza go over patch notes while playing Path of Exile 2 Early Access?
@@babyitsnatural Woo! Enjoy the early access!
next ML5: 120 speed, starts stealth imune and effect null: non attack s3 putting magic nail AOE and "cannot activate other skills on turn".
how creative you are, smilagate 😅
It's crazy how an RGB unit, mort, got a better buff than 3 ml units that's rarely seen in any content
@@BrassSatillite That's because Mort is an absolute chad and deserved it. 🙏 Lore-wise it is absolutely perfect.
@@BrassSatillite TO BE FAIR. Mort was a joke and a literal meme since release and never once was good. Hf deserved that buff.
Lorewise Mort is THE GREAT ONE
Think it's kinda valid
There's still nerfs for rgbs. If there's another disaster created... 💀
I think you misinterpreted the "Offer you cant refuse" artifact buff. Its not when attacking and an enemy is below 50% health after being attacked, but "After attacking with a single attack, when the target receives damage equivalent to 50% of max HP or more...". So Eligos or whoever is holding this needs to do that much damage in their single attack, not the target having less than 50% after the attack. So whoever in question (Eligos for example), would most likely only proc this from the time bomb on the cleaner, or maybe his S3 is attacking a really squishy unit. It's not a bad artifact, but not as easy to pull off as, "when enemy HP is 50% or below after attacking".
I like the idea behind PFlan's kit but needing a super limited artifact to make her work (and she isnt even the best at her "job") is kinda discouraging, I pulled her recently and was expecting it to be less necessary but... yeaaaah~ It feels bad pulling a super rare character to not being able to use them at all
ADS 4/5 pick with Hlua 3rd pick will be fun. ADS Standard V. Standard should be ok, but I think her in aggressive comps will shine well
The only thing about eligos vs asflan is, she is usually paired with harsetti who limits speed which he scales off of, unless I'm mistaken, bit he should still do enough damage to her
Tiny Senya will take care of that by the time these buffs come up.
Accurate thumbnail ngl. For me eligos and singelica are a win. Im so done with the flans and bmh in my games
Sad we’re back to these types of balance patches again especially when season is ending soon. So many units became meta last patch. But I guess this patch isn’t as bad like when Ruele got 20%CR push lol.
@@pix1943 All things considered, it isn't a bad balance patch. All of the changes seem to be purposeful and not filler, especially following the massive one we had before.
I'm okay with not having huge updates like the previous one simply because too many changes at once creates huge disturbances in the meta (and likely not in the way people hope...). The last update is one of the reasons why we have such a difficult meta to navigate right now, honestly.
One thing about Buff strippers is that they can take out Immortality units
Very sad for pc.flan. I'm also praying DJB gets a buff next patch i think it's time for him to get one, considering this huge debuff heavy meta.
rgb flan also have 100% def break on her s3 if i not mistaking
@@hazarudaiki2093 You're right! Man, it's been a while since I've seen her used...
Ngl, Singelica is gona be disgusting triggering double attacks after breaking defense
why people keeping forgetting wukong, every turn is full hp with sigurd!!!
Flan was robbed and continues to be robbed 😮💨
Cant have anything nice.
@@0SilentShot0 When the pillager becomes the pillaged... 😩
Eligos will eat ASFlan Letsgooo
I feel like if ml lots was not nerf he would made cool combo with some of this units.
As for banshe i think the best answer for new players is schniel.
Arch demon got really good changes but her stats just can't compete either they need to add more tickness into her s2 or give more speed to so she can combo with ml luna.
Ml flan s1 steals one buff but can't shared to team wtf or atleast steal 2. Ml flan great skin but so lack luster from voice to skills what is next a nerf to the limited flan.
Arch demon really deserve the buffs she was the 1st final boss and she was irrelevant and forgotten reall fast unlike belian and mort.
How much spd and eff would you need on a counter archdemon?
@@pokedude3221 85-100 EFF is the max you will reasonably want and can debuff pretty much anything in this meta. Anything with super high resist can be overcome with a soulburn.
Most counter builds are between 160-180 SPD because she gains CR from her extra attack.
@azallea thanks man I'll get to farming banshee!
You need er too otherwise she gets controlled and dies.
@kianakaslana7240 she needs too much stats man. Almost like a Ari situation
@@pokedude3221 Don't need crit rate or crit damage though, most likely.
Stupid Cloe buff. It not gonna work because boss always dispell buff (apply prior). Smile gate only decrease her damage on her s3 she not gonna get attack buff. Ther is no boss in this game you can stun it pointless. I always use my queen before se got nerf(they reduce damage her s3 but reduce cool down too that make her damage overall lower than the past)
Balance patch kind of boring honestly. Eligos buff seems good but I don’t really have the gear to make him work (I guess I can degear Ran to try it out?). And really sad they took away the blind from archdemon. But I was already using her on fairytale artifact with full bulk/ER/Attack so this works for me
No
There's NOOOOO excuse for a RGB unit to be better than ANY ML 5 in PVP. That's incomprehensible to me.
??? Ok dude, if that's the case then make the ML5 you licking boots off be more accessible to everyone than making the currency for it so limited, for a pvp focuse game, money still runs the game huh
@@STREEEEEET Why not? RGB5's should absolutely be on par with, if not better than, ML5's. Rarity should not dictate power. It's why I love it when they make 4* and even some 3* units viable in the meta.
Specialty Changes were one of the best ways to introduce newer players into the PVP scene simply due to accessibility. Exclusivity sells in the early life of a game, especially gachas. However, this is a 6+ year old mobile game... accessibility sells now. It's why they're giving away so many free resources and free units while also selling fully enhanced equipment packs now. If the player base begins to shrink in a PVP based game, it's over.
@@azallea You're objectively wrong. Scarcity is what dictates value, that's why gold is valuable and rocks are not. Flood the market with gold tomorrow and it instantly loses value.
I never said a ML hero should be miles better than a RGB but it should be always better., even if only 10% better. You can still make up for that difference with skill, a good draft and gear.
In fact that's true already for some ML's, the top 10 best PVP unit are probably all ML's.
As for retaining players, consider the other side of that coin, as F2P my last 3 ML's were F.Lidica, Archdemon Shadow and Baal and Sezan.
The feeling of pulling 3 subpar ML's in sequence almost made me quit the game AGAIN.
As returning player, my ML's are outdated and i then i pull 3 more outdated ones.
Getting 3 ML's that goes direct to deposit is not a good feeling, i'll tell you that.
@@hlzion Agree. It should be more accessible indeed. I consider a fair gacha if by skipping a limited banner the game gives you enough currency to guarantee the next limited.
How else are you expecting the f2p and new player to play PvP?