@@mrbubbles6468 That's a load. The TCG miss out due to Konami being stingy. Different ban lists only carry weight if the card is banned in the TCG but perfectly legal in the OCG. Though to their credit, Konami have been better at putting viable staples into TCG structure Decks.
@@mrbubbles6468 By all means, point me to a TCG Structure Deck that is as comprehensive as the OCG SalamanGreat Sanctum structure Deck. OCG has better structure decks due to their reprints and less emphasis on the collecting aspect as TCG. I wish something like that structure deck with its staples existed at all in TCG.
Let's be honest, TCG will never release the Tactical-Try out of logic that it contains a lot of staples and they will be like "No we won't give the staples at the cost of a few breads, we will lose money !" And seriously if they do release it, this is the best entry point for new players and being suited to the modern Yugioh environment, of course it's not perfect because of the current meta with Snake Eyes that is currently rampant but it will be an encouraging step if TCG is willingly to do it, because their current sales are dropping fast.
i wish they'd have events like in the ocg structures manga where you do draft for 20 cards of your MD and then bring the other 20. you don't get to know the card pool in advance, you just know it will be from recent-ish sets, and you don't know whether it will have plenty of staples or will be mostly archetype-specific or generic extender type cards, so you have to plan your strategy around making a deck that can be relatively consistent and do something well, even if you only manage to draft like 5 cards that directly work with your wincon, while also giving yourself the opportunity to really pop off if your draft goes super well. it's like a nice hybrid of the appeal of sealed and the appeal of normal deckbuilding strategy
Their League Battle decks are still better than Yugioh's structure decks. $30 for a deck that can actually win at locals is very good. They have nearly correct ratios of cards and have almost zero fluff.
I usually get 1 of most of these decks. With exceptions. Charmers: (that was a mistake) Masked Hero: at least I got 3 Dark Laws now. Crimson King: probably the better decision among these.
@@shadedusk7831 They at least have Secret Village for a Floodgate though its pointless if your opponent has Spellcasters. Crimson King has Red Supernova Dragon which can be a hard to deal with boss monster.
You'd make even better decisions if you got the traptrix and fire king structure decks. Evenly matched ashe blossoms , impermanence and droll and lock bird reprints.
Making them a mostly complete but not quite optimal version of a competitive deck also allows for potential preconstructed formats, which can be pretty fun. The biggest issue I have with Tactical Try is that I think they should have made more of them, for more summoning mechanics. I think at very least Swordsoul Tenyi should have also gotten a spot as one of the initial lineup, it's a REALLY good deck for what Tactical Try is intended to be.
If the two of you watched the video, you would see that you can play these structure decks straight from the box. You don't need to buy more, and you aren't clogged with bad cards that are there only for you to ditch as soon as you buy 2 more of the same structure pack.
I think them not being legal and essentially being official proxies is a good thing. It protects them from scalpers and keeps them cheap, so people can learn the game at home or play casually at their locals. Those that are against proxies official or not want to play against your wallet and not your skill, that's how fragile their ego's are and let's be honest, a majority of players don't plan on playing in official tournaments, this game doesn't really have prizing that makes it worth it.
True. Also they have a signature on the front so even if you sleeved them it's obvious that they aren't legal copies of cards. They are good for learning a deck for fun if you're a complete noob (speaking from experience I remember a 2014-ish one with Accelgor I really liked) they aren't legal for tournament play.
3x Albaz was how I first got from Master Duel to TCG and it def got me a few games too. This was when it first came out though, and it does make me wonder if 1) Its still viable as is and 2) if the other structure decks that came out after/will come out are good too
Albaz strike is pretty viable if you ask me but won't be a tournament winner. The Despia support is necessary for it to truly be consistent though. Crimson king and Beware Traptrix were both awesome structure decks, especially Traptrix, which is probably the best structure deck they've made. Fire kings is also really good even by itself but still nothing compared to the Snake-eye version.
As a former pokemon tcg player, believe me. The championship products that they provided were a waste of money since the cards provided were NOT tournament legal.
I agree. Structure decks have definitely improved. My only concern at this moment is that they haven’t released anything new TCG side since the fire king deck. Hoping for something soon! I’m losing hope in them. Hoping for a new Atlantean deck in the future!
Hey Key, the only correction I would like to add to your video which was really good, is the comparison with the WC decks from pokemon as this are not tournament legal as these are more like collection products. If you see an unboxing, you will see that the cards are all non-foil with a colored back that's different from the normal cards that are Tournament legal.
The only thing I wish Konami would do with the structure decks is selling them as a complete set if people gonna buy three of these anyway just sell them in one compete play set and also I think adding in a booster pack would be nice too for upgrades/ collecting for new players
I understand Konami is far from being good but this is a good sign that they at least are heading to a good direction with More Anime Nostalgia supports, decend SD Staples, Battlephase oriented Tenpai (with better arts of True "Yugioh monster" not just Gundam, waifus ) and many more. Have fun with new Yubel VS Exodia just cause we can 😂
pokemon used to be the WORST game when it came to starter decks, giving players mostly underpowered bulk with a hand full of already cheap and accessible staples. Thankfully that changed and now they just sell you a top tier meta deck with literally everything you'd need. We need all games to be like that.
You should do a video on duel links “structure decks”, they’re absolutely awful. Half of them aren’t even playable (literally) without outside additions. The Dark Magician “deck” for example doesn’t have Dark Magician and they expect you to get ahold of one on your own (which isn’t an issue if you picked Yugi at the start).
[4:54] Sidenote: those awesome Pokémon decks aren't tournament legal, and they only tell you this in the fine print on the box... made me very sad to see this since they are the cheapest option for new players.
Im really interested in getting to yugioh TCG but they are selling structure deck for $20-$25 here so buying ×3 will cost me $60+. Hopefully the try deck will ease my way into the game
I hope they actually give us the exact same product here (with ban list consideration if need be) rather then a wimped version in comparison. Also just to clarify, which btw I'm jot the 1st person to ask, but i have used them before for fun, the Pokemon TCG worlds decks aren't legal in tournament play. The front has the signature of the player who used it at worlds, and the back is visually completely different then standard Pokemon cards. So they are banned for tournament play. Doesn't make them not cool tho.
I bought an Eldlich and a live twin tactical try and mix them both as live twin lich and is having decent result in locals. Obviously getting ass blasted by tenpai and fk se but this is the greatest spending i ever did for ygo.
Well we gotta wait for Atlantean to drop first cuz it's retrain got announced last year in December and we still haven't heard anything yet . also dragons collide structure deck retrain plz :)
Yeah Pokemon has been doing this a lot better, so far I've spent a tiny fraction compared to Yugioh and I have multiple competitive decks in the Pokemon tcg.
This video failed to mention that Konami takes out the good reprints when a structure deck is being importing to the tcg. Additionally, the ocg is far cheaper and consumer friendly with better rarity distribution and cheaper MSRP.
They are getting so much better that in 2024 we do not even get one! Oh wait, we do get a reprint structure deck that literally no one asked for... OCG gets tactical try and we get??? The shaft apparently... Common TCG L
I wish they'd release the same structure decks they release in OCG
Good staples, cheap, on the easier side for new players and ready to play.
They do. The changes are usually due to differences in banlists.
It would make bringing new players into the game easier because most come in lose 2 games and jump on a new train
@@mrbubbles6468 That's a load. The TCG miss out due to Konami being stingy. Different ban lists only carry weight if the card is banned in the TCG but perfectly legal in the OCG. Though to their credit, Konami have been better at putting viable staples into TCG structure Decks.
@@mrbubbles6468 Yup how to forget when evenly or lighting storm where banned here so we got raigeki and nothing
@@mrbubbles6468 By all means, point me to a TCG Structure Deck that is as comprehensive as the OCG SalamanGreat Sanctum structure Deck. OCG has better structure decks due to their reprints and less emphasis on the collecting aspect as TCG. I wish something like that structure deck with its staples existed at all in TCG.
Let's be honest, TCG will never release the Tactical-Try out of logic that it contains a lot of staples and they will be like "No we won't give the staples at the cost of a few breads, we will lose money !"
And seriously if they do release it, this is the best entry point for new players and being suited to the modern Yugioh environment, of course it's not perfect because of the current meta with Snake Eyes that is currently rampant but it will be an encouraging step if TCG is willingly to do it, because their current sales are dropping fast.
I'm pretty sure if the tactical try decks ever come over here, they will have a massive price hike.
@@nmr7203 the price for tactical deck in my country aint cheap either, its not 1100yen due to taxes, more like 2150yen+, still decent enough
Idk, before the Salad structure many doubted Konami would ever put Ash in a stricture deck. Now we've seen it trice.
Better and fewer. We had 3 last year, but none this year, unless you count Tactical Try decks, but there's been no word of those getting exports.
Didn’t fire king come out this year?
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Did you watch the video? Its litteraly about the tactical try decks
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did you read my comment? I literally acknowledged that.
@@spicymemes7458 youre asking a question that is answered by the video
Cyber Dragon isn't just there for nostalgia, it's also an OTK deck that shows the most aggressive part of yugioh.
And the artwork is amazing
Very fun to play as well.
you forgot to mention that OCG actually held official sealed events with just these decks.
i wish they'd have events like in the ocg structures manga where you do draft for 20 cards of your MD and then bring the other 20. you don't get to know the card pool in advance, you just know it will be from recent-ish sets, and you don't know whether it will have plenty of staples or will be mostly archetype-specific or generic extender type cards, so you have to plan your strategy around making a deck that can be relatively consistent and do something well, even if you only manage to draft like 5 cards that directly work with your wincon, while also giving yourself the opportunity to really pop off if your draft goes super well. it's like a nice hybrid of the appeal of sealed and the appeal of normal deckbuilding strategy
I'm fairly certain the champion decks in pokemon are non tournament legal replicas because they have different card backs
That's not a thing in Pokemon i think.
You’re correct, as far as I know, the champion decks are basically just printed proxies
@@mechamedeamigo3984???
Pokémon printing championship decks is cool, until you realize they are just proxy cards you can not use in any official events. :'(
Which is very strange.
Put em in sleeves and rely on your opponent not bein a cop
Their League Battle decks are still better than Yugioh's structure decks. $30 for a deck that can actually win at locals is very good. They have nearly correct ratios of cards and have almost zero fluff.
They are still great for practice
I usually get 1 of most of these decks. With exceptions.
Charmers: (that was a mistake)
Masked Hero: at least I got 3 Dark Laws now.
Crimson King: probably the better decision among these.
Getting the charmers one for the alternate arts is a win in my eyes. Are they playable? No. Do they look cool. Hell yeah!
@@shadedusk7831 They at least have Secret Village for a Floodgate though its pointless if your opponent has Spellcasters. Crimson King has Red Supernova Dragon which can be a hard to deal with boss monster.
You'd make even better decisions if you got the traptrix and fire king structure decks. Evenly matched ashe blossoms , impermanence and droll and lock bird reprints.
I got charmers for Awakening of the possessed - greater Inari fire and spiritual Fire art - Kurenai. Now let that sink in
Making them a mostly complete but not quite optimal version of a competitive deck also allows for potential preconstructed formats, which can be pretty fun.
The biggest issue I have with Tactical Try is that I think they should have made more of them, for more summoning mechanics. I think at very least Swordsoul Tenyi should have also gotten a spot as one of the initial lineup, it's a REALLY good deck for what Tactical Try is intended to be.
Now if only Master Duel Structure Decks were this viable to play.
The Blackwings structure only needs 3 urs to be a viable IRS collections agent deck
They are.
Salad, Ninja, Blackwings, and Dragonmaid are viable lmao
Yeah other than Salad they're not that good but you can win with them
Zillionare
If the two of you watched the video, you would see that you can play these structure decks straight from the box. You don't need to buy more, and you aren't clogged with bad cards that are there only for you to ditch as soon as you buy 2 more of the same structure pack.
aren't the pokemon champion precons not actually legal for even local play due to the different card backs
Yes, but the league battle decks contain all cards, the only “problem” is slightly lower card quantity but that’s easily circumvented
I think them not being legal and essentially being official proxies is a good thing. It protects them from scalpers and keeps them cheap, so people can learn the game at home or play casually at their locals. Those that are against proxies official or not want to play against your wallet and not your skill, that's how fragile their ego's are and let's be honest, a majority of players don't plan on playing in official tournaments, this game doesn't really have prizing that makes it worth it.
True. Also they have a signature on the front so even if you sleeved them it's obvious that they aren't legal copies of cards. They are good for learning a deck for fun if you're a complete noob (speaking from experience I remember a 2014-ish one with Accelgor I really liked) they aren't legal for tournament play.
League battle decks however
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 those are amazing. Got an Inteleon search engine from 1 ages ago it feels like
3x Albaz was how I first got from Master Duel to TCG and it def got me a few games too. This was when it first came out though, and it does make me wonder if 1) Its still viable as is and 2) if the other structure decks that came out after/will come out are good too
Albaz strike is pretty viable if you ask me but won't be a tournament winner. The Despia support is necessary for it to truly be consistent though. Crimson king and Beware Traptrix were both awesome structure decks, especially Traptrix, which is probably the best structure deck they've made. Fire kings is also really good even by itself but still nothing compared to the Snake-eye version.
One thing to note about the Pokemon ones. Those aren’t the real cards, they are proxies, you can’t take those to tournaments
4:57 Pokémon does not give out tournament winning decks. What they sell are unplayable cards of the tournament winning decks 😢
As a former pokemon tcg player, believe me. The championship products that they provided were a waste of money since the cards provided were NOT tournament legal.
i honestly want the Maxx C, i know its banned, but i still want my the copies!
Seriously. Let me play edison, Konami. Maxx C was like 15$+ last time I checked, and they cut the damn thing from Rarity Collection 1 -_-
New Red-Eyes support in a new Structure Deck when? Konami when?!
The fact that as a Yu-Gi-Oh player I audibly gasped at the Pokemon championship decks tells you more than enough about the state of Yu-Gi-Oh
I can get behind this. I've been looking for a premade deck format.
OCG Structure Decks yes, but the TCG versions (assuming we get them at all)...
Any chance you do a video on Structure Decks in Master Duel
Fire king is great too, even pure. If you get a single promethean princess, amblowhale, and then wait for Ulcanix, it even becomes tier 1.
Tactical Try deck:
Master Duel Loaner decks in real life
I agree. Structure decks have definitely improved.
My only concern at this moment is that they haven’t released anything new TCG side since the fire king deck.
Hoping for something soon! I’m losing hope in them. Hoping for a new Atlantean deck in the future!
Wondering if and when we'll see these decks in the TCG, and if we do how they'll be rebalanced without Maxx "C"
Any news when they will get the international release?
Hey Key, the only correction I would like to add to your video which was really good, is the comparison with the WC decks from pokemon as this are not tournament legal as these are more like collection products. If you see an unboxing, you will see that the cards are all non-foil with a colored back that's different from the normal cards that are Tournament legal.
I'm still praying Dragonmaid-To-Order gets printed because man, buying those this late after release isn't as fun as I wanted it to be.
The only thing I wish Konami would do with the structure decks is selling them as a complete set if people gonna buy three of these anyway just sell them in one compete play set and also I think adding in a booster pack would be nice too for upgrades/ collecting for new players
And they make the same profit by selling for 30, so it will sell for 40
@@ked49 Still a better deal than how it's done right now
Thumbs up for the plants vs zombies music in the background
The problem with pokémon selling the world champion decks is you cant play them in tournaments.
The Pokemon champion decks aren't legal for tournament play.
I understand Konami is far from being good but this is a good sign that they at least are heading to a good direction with More Anime Nostalgia supports, decend SD Staples, Battlephase oriented Tenpai (with better arts of True "Yugioh monster" not just Gundam, waifus ) and many more. Have fun with new Yubel VS Exodia just cause we can 😂
Aren't the pokemon championship decks basically just proxy cards that you can't even use in tournaments?
pokemon used to be the WORST game when it came to starter decks, giving players mostly underpowered bulk with a hand full of already cheap and accessible staples. Thankfully that changed and now they just sell you a top tier meta deck with literally everything you'd need. We need all games to be like that.
yep and playing with the championship decks is really a lot of fun!
My group and I play Traditional Format so the Ban List only makes Yu-Gi-Oh more affordable for us.
You should do a video on duel links “structure decks”, they’re absolutely awful. Half of them aren’t even playable (literally) without outside additions. The Dark Magician “deck” for example doesn’t have Dark Magician and they expect you to get ahold of one on your own (which isn’t an issue if you picked Yugi at the start).
Seriously?!
Man, I'm lucky I just made decks from the event that was running back then... And the Anniversary tickets!
[4:54] Sidenote: those awesome Pokémon decks aren't tournament legal, and they only tell you this in the fine print on the box... made me very sad to see this since they are the cheapest option for new players.
Im really interested in getting to yugioh TCG but they are selling structure deck for $20-$25 here so buying ×3 will cost me $60+. Hopefully the try deck will ease my way into the game
I hope they actually give us the exact same product here (with ban list consideration if need be) rather then a wimped version in comparison.
Also just to clarify, which btw I'm jot the 1st person to ask, but i have used them before for fun, the Pokemon TCG worlds decks aren't legal in tournament play. The front has the signature of the player who used it at worlds, and the back is visually completely different then standard Pokemon cards. So they are banned for tournament play. Doesn't make them not cool tho.
I bought an Eldlich and a live twin tactical try and mix them both as live twin lich and is having decent result in locals.
Obviously getting ass blasted by tenpai and fk se but this is the greatest spending i ever did for ygo.
why is there a 29:18 time marker
Exodia structure deck
I’m hoping for those Tactical Try decks to come in the TCG. Of course without Maxx C. That bug can stay in hell.
I'm still waiting for the Simorgh and Exxod structure decks retrains...
Well we gotta wait for Atlantean to drop first cuz it's retrain got announced last year in December and we still haven't heard anything yet . also dragons collide structure deck retrain plz :)
Hard to say they're getting better when they might not even be a thing anymore
Yeah Pokemon has been doing this a lot better, so far I've spent a tiny fraction compared to Yugioh and I have multiple competitive decks in the Pokemon tcg.
Also, “questionable waters”? lol
Atlantean lightsworn chaos dragon structure upgrades where????
Lightsworn just got support.
@@mrbubbles6468 Right but Salad came out in Soul fusion then immediately got a structure deck not to far after
@@Hex9876yugioh salad is a anime deck its always going to get more support.
@@Hex9876yugioh Notorious for the Deck having Common Ash Blossom which drove up the price.
Bro keeps saying 10$ structure deck but the card shops I swear sell them closer to 20$😢. But good video❤
How dare you imply that ice barriers suck when they actually suck
Only available for the OCG
I really want those Tactical-Try Decks here for TCG, seeing this comments confirms we most like knight not get them 🤦♂️
Thats great an all but its only ocg exclusive so
This video failed to mention that Konami takes out the good reprints when a structure deck is being importing to the tcg.
Additionally, the ocg is far cheaper and consumer friendly with better rarity distribution and cheaper MSRP.
Nice clickbait, the Albaz Structure deck is barely playable because all the good cards are scattered in different sets
Unfortunately. Especially if you really want it to be good, you need engines that aren't present (Despia and Bystial).
There hasnt been a structure this year though
We're TCG, we don't get the nice stuff like the OCG
WERE GETTING THRUST WTF YOOOOOOOO
great vid
Cant get better if we get none
They are getting so much better that in 2024 we do not even get one! Oh wait, we do get a reprint structure deck that literally no one asked for... OCG gets tactical try and we get??? The shaft apparently... Common TCG L
Be cool if we had some new ones :\
those are never making it to tcg
This is cap. Still gotta cop 3 copies for playsets.
well, in the past they used to suck sooo hard
Yeah but the game aint. Any game where a person gives up after losing the die roll is pathetic.
the best one was dinos
The Pokémon decks are trash they have different backings and are not legal for tournaments
Maybe but the format keep getting worse