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The second officer looked to be in better shape and he did absolutely nothing compared to the first officer except let dispatch know shots were fired like 5 times 🤷🏽♂️
I just don't get why this obsession with the radio isn't trained out of our police. I'm a pilot and it's pounded in our head that the radio is last when it comes to an emergency, with cops it seems the radio is first. Once the first shots fired goes out, throw away the radio in a gun fight.
@@rdawgz866 aviate, navigate, communicate.
His badge says “To serve, radio, and flee”
yeah the second officer was WAY too passive and did nothing to support his partner. He literally let the suspect walk by him and possibly endanger everyone in that complex.
Well physical body doesn’t equate to being good at tactics, brave, smart etc. the chunky cop prob has more experience.
I love that the guest brought up paintball to prepare for gunfights. Every officer should experience painballing once before going on the force. So underrated as a training tool.
Good point.
Yes. One of the things that bothers me is people don't understand that a person can only shoot one direction at a time...and what we called boxing, how to play off of cover.
Why not air soft then?
One bad officer is an individual issue. Two at the same call is a department problem.
And Never two without three.
how much would it cost for you to put on a badge in CA... lol they should be happy for what they have... lol
@@05AcuraRSXtypeS good point. It's not just a department issue, it's a state government issue.
@@MrJest2 not at all and good on them... you get what you pay for... tons of cops from NYC and CA coming here to Texas with all that training lol...
Training problem
This video shows exactly why I support the second amendment. Cops are just regular people too, not super heroes, and if I have to choose between relying on other people or relying on myself I’m going with myself.
Well at least you’ll be there in the moment. It might be unrealistic to expect a trained uniform to be with you in that terrible moment. I don’t have delusions about my expertise, but I can be there punctually. Our officers simply cannot be everywhere at once and always.
Can't believe what I heard @ 4:17. The second officer tell someone that he could see the suspect and that he was reloading his weapon. If you are in the position to see a guy who just shot at you and your partner, you should be putting well placed rounds down range on the suspect.
The suspect was against the buildings. You can not shoot and miss and have bullets go through the walls into an apartment with innocent people inside. Someone inside could get killed. I had the same thought as you, why didn't he shoot? Then realized they can't take a chance of shooting someone in the apartment.
Edit: These officers didn't seem well trained. All those patrol cars and officers and no one could stop him. All their ammo probably would have went through the walls and not the suspect.
Should have had an AR-15 out at that point. Crazy.
Reloading? Thats the time to rush the bad guy with gun blazing.
Agreed 💯 Great time for a flash bang if they were permitted to have one lol (I know I know, too much CoD) 😂 🤘
@@ms.newyawkeri7559 an incompletely considered comment.
This is an embarrassment....I'm an officer...I agree, I don't wanna get shot at either but I have to be there for my partner to get the bad guy and keep the citizens safe...I'm glad they survived but these two should be in the Radio room. I was not going to go to the range tm...now I am!!
Yup cop is huck
Thank you for service! Unfortunately much of our country views/treats police the way we treated Vietnam Vets and as a Veteran I'm familiar with the impact that has on those who serve. Stay strong, stay safe.
@@Cjusmc28 that’s because ppl in the comments think they know about dealing with a situation like these cops are having to do now
@@Lezve a little unfair. I think most people in the West expect a law enforcement professional to act professionally and to be trained to an appropriate degree so.
@@DJRockford83 they expect em to be like a GTA RP officer
That's the town I grew up in. Lots of trouble with this last name. Ended up learning to fight more than one person at a time. Ended up going to three different junior high schools in the three years that they call middle school these days. Why someone would challenge the police is beyond me. You know you're not gonna even come close to winning. There's just to many of them and only one of you. Common sense has gone out the window for the average criminal. And we already know how that usually ends. The perp almost always takes the trip off the edge of his life.Thank for the show and the lessons he could have used to be be a better officer in situations like this one.
The cat knew what was bout to happen
That cat got outta dodge quick!! Lol 😂😂
There's another one at 1:31, that one only skedaddled after the pew pews started.
Lmao, he said...Outta der!!!lol!
The second officer was too scared “where’d he go” guy. He was placed perfectly to take the suspect out.
Edit: basically, he just saw where his partner was shooting at. He shouldn’t be asking that question. He should have his eyes on the suspects location. There’s only one exit for the suspect. Hiding behind the cruiser, imo, gives the suspect time to ambush the officers. Reminds me of the officers who got into that terrible fight with a suspect wielding some type of rifle. The suspect flanked the officers and if it wasn’t for a gun jam, they would have died.
na he moved to cover his asp. he didnt know what was going on. he wasnt going to rush in when his comrade was just shot at. he shouldve stayed off the mic though and focused more
Agreed but keep in mind all apartments have a back door or at least an egressable window. I can't believe that guy got away.
He asks where the suspect is, gets a response, but doesn’t get in the fight. Why even ask at that point?
I completely agree. Second cop was useless. Why is he reporting every time his partner gets shot at? He needed to end this scenario, not prove he can count gun shots while hiding behind a car with his eyes closed. Pathetic. They need more training. Or get a job at Wal-Mart....as an unarmed greeter.
@@manbabymonke he was busy telling dispatch that shots were fired. Again. And again. And again. With his eyes closed and his back turned apparently, since the perp ran right in front of him. "Where is he?" "He's literally standing in front of you firing shots at me!"
Lol the "not picking on you Sacramento" had me dying..
I love here in Sacramento and it's been getting hectic once again that's FOR SURE.
I support the channel and keep up the life saving lessons
The range of skill you display on this channel is incredible. One day you get super-human calm, collected, effective and the next you get this.
It's important to remember the "good guys" can be woefully under skilled and outmatched. It's even more important to remember the "bad guys" can possess those very same traits of calm and collected, and have much experience in gunfights. The exception, maybe, but they exist.
"The department is going to train you to limit their liability. They are not going to train you...to the place where you are actually competent..." - Correia's Bible, John, Book I, Acts, "Letters to the Rookies"
I worked in Sacramento during 2 summer months-Summer brake -It was in the 70`s. I was about 16-17. That city/town was so plesant and fun. I have not been back. I see all this on RUclips. It went from Mayberry RFD to a crime ridden nightmare. I look back to some other towns I worked in with no worries. Now I am down right afraid to return.
I’ve met people on Cod with better communication than these officers 😂
Love it: the officer is jamming the beats while on patrol
Scary situation with scared cops. Frightening all the way around.
Ok kid
This is the Sacramento syndrome.
@@willierants5880 lol
These two live by the “better lucky than good” standard. Police in general need more mandatory live action training. I occasionally hit the range with one of my cop buddies and he insists on putting me through certain drills and exercises. He continually comments that the time he spends with me is 10 times more training than most all of the cops in his station.
The body positive officer hid behind a fence instead of the solid tree two feet away. And in addition to the use of the radio, he didn't use the fence (or tree) to stabilize his shot.
he didnt have time
Trees suck for cover. Too much sticks out, generally. Especially if you are rolley polley olley.
yet he was still the officer who responded better in this situation . . . that is definitely a problem
@@mathewhill5556 thick tree vs thin fence. Or fence plus tree. Doesn't matter his weight, what matters is cover, not concealment because bullets don't care about the latter.
Big boy wasn’t afraid to let off shots though, he just had zero backup. The other cop literally got two cars away and shot zero times. 😂
Even the cat had good enough sense to get TF outta there when the cops showed up.
Disclaimer: I am not an LEO.
If you're responding to a suspect waiving a firearm around, why not have a long gun or shotgun? Especially the backup that showed up after the call of "shots fired" were put out over the radio. They provide a significant advantage over a handgun in 99% of situations.
I agree with your comment, except I would bump that number up from 99% to 100%.
Sadly departments arn't funded and not every cop makes enough money to buy their own rifles, and ammo. Its sad that people think the solution of bad policing is to take away funding. We need to give these officers more mandated training.
@@MiamiVice. you can't go with 100% because there will be times where there isn't enough space to navigate with a shotgun or long gun. It's not very often, but it does happen and you can't say 100% if it's not every single instance.
I'm seeing more and more officers knowing there going into these calls without using long guns or shot guns ? I'm wondering if the politics of today aren't putting officers at risk ? These officers seem to have other issues
@@OmeletUSAF I used to think the same, but this enlightened me a bit.
ruclips.net/video/_APnhoIYeD0/видео.html
I can imagine a pistol could still be advantageous in VERY tight spaces, like say in the very narrow corridors of a ship, but even indoors a rifle can be manipulated well, especially with all the short barreled variants available.
I grew up in Sacramento, and every urban area of California is a cesspool of crime. And that was 20 years ago. I can't imagine what it's like now.
Anyone notice the cat . It shot the gap seconds before the shit went down 😂
I believe you mean to say a Bork Bork got some nom noms.
The goat part of the rope showed up in the form of ICC #2, starting with feeling the need to call out shots fired on his in-car while his fellow officer’s life is in danger. Continuing in his sh*t-for-backup vein, he then retreats to a position where he can’t see the shooter, feels compelled to reveal his and other’s position by talking. The issues ICC #1 had such as the reloading are teachable and fixable. Dude’s got a helluva lightning draw and heart a mile deep.
The 2nd officer at this point sounds more like a news report, going on and on, repeating: shots fired ! (Ok ... They already know the gist from the first shots fired ! You don't need to tell to the dispatcher : Hey ! More shots fired... Hey ! Now some more...!)
people listening to their scanners could count the exact number of shots fired
Then…I see him he’s reloading, then I can’t see him anymore, and finally the best of all…let’s back out of here! He should have posted up off of his rear quarter panel and engaged the suspect as soon as he rounded the corner at the bottom of the stairs. If he missed then he could have backed around to the other side of his vehicle. But he didn’t so he definitely should have engaged him when he was reloading. And if he’s fellow officer said he was OK he should have gave chase. I hope this officer has found a new line of work. Gone are the days of I was a police officer for 30 years and never pulled my weapon out of its holster. We live in a time that you should expect to have to pull your weapon at some point in your career if not multiple times and know beforehand that you be able to take the shot.
Second officer is going to have a hard time with fellow officers having him back them up on calls. I know if I worked with him I wouldn’t want him as my backup.
That cat knew exactly when to get outta Dodge!
When I shoot ( I know it's sadly not an option for a lot of people) but I go out to public lands and find a spot. I always practice standing, kneeled and laying on my back, I wish more ranges were open for this kind of thing and technical work not just "stand and shoot". But I feel like even just practicing at home with dry fire in various positions will help greatly.
Y did it look like the bad guy was dancing perfectly to the song on the first dudes dash cam!😂😭
First cop didn't get to cover, he had concealment. Cover was the tree 3 feet behind him. And I noticed he turned around putting his back to the bad guy and didn't back pedal. He lost all situational awareness at that moment.
Congratulations on 3 million subscribers John!!!
With all that foot movement, is good to know that the second officer will be a great candidate for the next “Dancing with the Stars”. 🕺🏼
The first officer was so unbelievably unprepared and unfit (literally and figuratively)
All the second one wanted to do was run and hide
But he is courageous
that's pride of sacramento you're dissing right there. do you want to be canceled for fat shaming? 😅🤣
The 2nd one was worse. Too pansy to help
Bro @ the suspect dancing while that song was playing I was dying 😂😂😂
That negligent discharge was so scary 😨
Pretty clear not enough people are practicing proactive reloads. Lots of people change mag, then rack the slide, wasting a round
I agree but I think this is the least of anyones problems here… maybe standing out in the middle of the open with an active shooter
Or gently hobbling away when shot at
There's an argument to be made that racking the slide every time means you do the same thing whether the gun is empty or not. Essentially boils down to less OODA loop.
Imagine being the witness, seeing a dude point a gun at a car then start patting his head and rubbing his tummy, and not having it on dashcam. No one would believe you lol
Never been so Early. Upon watching it closer these cops seem sloppy. His partner was was too scared to do anything meaningful and the first officer couldn't move fast because he's terribly out of shape. Sorry, but you shouldn't be allowed to get that out of shape for a job that very much relies on being quick and sometimes chasing a suspect.
The second officer ICC#2 saw the suspect reloading, but he was shitting his pants.
Police Departments train you to the MINIMUM standard, it is absolutely imperative to conduct personal/private training to get to a Master level.
The second officer must quit his job if he's too scared to pull the trigger.
That officer who fired the first shots was completely unprepared and a risk to everyone there.
where you watching the same video...his backup just watched him run away..didnt help at all. could have taken the shot while the first officer was in a gun fight.. watch again
@@thegreatbambino1041 Yeah he should have 360 noscoped out of the driver's window while the car was still moving. You're right.
@@xMaverickFPS higher odds of hitting than the shots he put down
@@thegreatbambino1041 Both things are true. Yes, we all watched the video bro. lol. You replied as if I was wrong about what I said. Did you watch?
Second officer was a bigger risk than the first with his failure to engage (cowardice?) First has a lot to fix but his issues can be fixed with training. I doubt the second officers faults are fixable.
Man the second unit car pulled in and a cat crossed its way, I was thinking damm thats badddd luck, then boom 2 seconds in shootout starts
5:35 "After all that, nobody hit NOTHIN'". LOL. I know we are happy that nobody hit nothin' but DAM that was funny to hear!
Let’s be honest here, that second shot went off because his sausage finger was caught in that trigger guard. He was bump firing 😂
That's Seavy Circle projects, I grew up their... And I see it hasn't changed much
Even that cat has done more cardio than 1st cop ever did
I knew that I'd watched too many Correia shooting breakdowns when I, a civilian, started yelling at my phone "stay off your damn radio!!!"....
Glad the officers walked away uninjured
Good thing that doughnut operator had extra "padding". And the second cop is a joke.
Dangers of a "Determined attacker"
"He's reloading!" You should be UNLOADING on him at this time.
"The officer is full figured". Pot calling the kettle black 😂
This is the quintessential set of officers you'd expect to see in action and heist movies.
Legends has it that he still informing the dispatcher about shots being fired till day 😂😂
yeah it's tough when a little training could go a long way here. I will give the big guy credit for having the heart/balls to stay in the fight a bit and engage the perp after being shot at.
"Aim small. Miss small." - Mel Gibson: The Patriot
Oof.. second officer rockin the olight firestarter..
I live in the UK, and have nothing but respect for the officers of all the different American states, but this officer was just not in the game, even the basic needed to do the job and keep everyone safe and himself.
That second officer never fired a shot. All he wanted to do was get to his safe place. Wow.
That second cop... Bro, F the communication or repeating shots fire, u need to look at ur target and protect urself first dude. 🤦
They left their police car doors open too when they ran away. Good thing the BG didn’t think to carjack one of them .
I get the immediate radio call for help during the fight. Your not sure if your any second from being shot and survival mode says “call in the Calvary!!”
Talking about the full figured officers ND, doubt he had much time on that gun. It’s hammer fired, so very different SA trigger than DA for first shot. He also does an administrative decock while behind the fence. Think he was “brushing” for a manual safety. Took me a LONG time to get used to the 2 “different triggers” and manual of arms
The big guy may have been out of shape but at least he had no hesitation to get in the fight.
At 15:22 the office also turns his back to the subject. In that second or two he could of gotten shot from behind. Especially since his back up was more interested in hugging his car.
He should be a reporter. “ I am reporting that shots were fired” great job
Remember this is California and law enforcement is restricted by the same gun laws as private citizens. It seems like the large officer had a crappy gun. I noticed he had to rack the gun and it looked like it ejected a spent round after the reload. I could be way off on the gun. I don't know why the second officer didn't switch to a shot gun or rifle.
I was likewhere was the first cop???????? He literally had a perfect view, what a coward in this case
Second cop said hold my beer (about your comment about the first officer being a coward)
The second officer froze. When you’re in those situations for the first time you either freeze or dump your mag. He froze and provided dispatch with Necessary info.
One thing; first officer kept his cool. I'll give him that.
So mentally the break in action is what triggers the radio call. You are right, he needed to finish the dude off. But those guys are trained to notify. If no one is calling for help then no one is coming.
The cat 🐈 was like fuck you guys I’m out
The physical conditioning of some of these officers is shameful. Fatty should be taken off the frontline and be forced to do months of PT and range training until he is fit to serve . Right now he is a liability to himself and the general public.
Remember, he's not fat, he's fluffy!
@KG I tip my hat to him as well the big but is he is to obese to do his job and his job will put him in danger of heart failure if his employer does not hold him and all their members to a reasonable standard of physical fitness.
Back out I got you 🤔🤔🤔 I wouldn't trust that second officer to cover my back.
I'm happy the dog bit the suspect and wasn't harmed. I'm happy the human officers were good too obviously
1:17 and 1:30 those cats know something is going down w/ that nutbag and they're outa there!
That is crazy!!! I live in that apartment behind where the incident happened. I was sleeping, just got off work a few hours before it happens. There's an elementary school across the street. SMFH, it is a good thing my neighbor didn't get hurt. Some kid died from a stray bullet years before I move in. They caught that POS though. The first officer looks like he did not know what he was supposed to do SMFH.
How about the larger officer decocking, after his reload, midfight?
What the heck was the partner behind the cruiser doing? He had so many options to end the fight.
It's great to see so many videos from California on this channel, especially from Sacramento.... Im definitelymoving there next. Seems so muxh safer than other places, like Ukraine!
I thought "He's reloading" is something which an officer would not have time to say, because that is when one would be busy shooting at the perp.
*COP: I AM GOOD IT WAS JUST AN A-CORN 🥴*
Smh cowards on the force. That's dangerous
Exactly what you guys explain there are three officers they all have what they need to win the fight but they spend more time retreating and not taking opportunities up to an including witnessing the suspect reload, I get you want your pension but do your job
You see them cats runnin they smelled it before anyone else lol
Combat/defense pistol is all about point-shooting....
An RMR in that type of daylight , would greatly reduce your target acquisition time...
And NO , I definately wouldn't DECOCK , to reload...
Lady screams,,my mom's out there!! & they did nothing!!!
Damn my dude don’t need armor he is the armor
#2 seems to be a complete disgrace. He had dude dead to rights and just let him walk right by. Unless I’m completely missing something….. Bottom line for me: “I’m embarrassed for both officers and hope they get the training they need to become better.”
Re: the Sacto training budget; it’s most likely just like every other agency, just enough to meet state requirements and reduce liability. If you’re an officer/deputy satisfied with that level of training you’re a liability to your community and fellow officers. Step up yourself.
The second officer stayed behind cover it looked like never did get an angle on him over his hood to provide back up he did let everybody know he could see the guy reloading but did not shoot for some reason
Sacramento's finest Stormtroopers hard at work.
WOW what a video .... this worries me about training. I know I say it all the time and will say it again ... it's great to have Mike on the channel too
I was thinking the same thing as soon as he came in sight down the stairs. That was his opportunity to light him up he choked man. He was paying attention to the officer that started shooting first. Come on man this didn't have to be a 8 hour hunt. They could have ended it right there. That guy was not even paying attention to the second officer.
The second officer has all kinds of chances to take the suspect out, but, instead, he’s on the radio kept repeating “Shot Fired”, and hiding, running around behind his vehicle like he’s playing hide and seek with his Barbie when he’s growing up! Smh.
5:36 "after all that nobody hit nothing" the end. ty for watching
At the start when the shots went off I was like “where’s the second officer that just drove up?” And then the shooter just walks off in that direction and I’m really wondering where the second cop went
It’s sooooo funny house he was going with the music
I'm not sure I heard the 2nd cop clearly, were shots fired?
That 2nd cop needs to be removed from the force.
Takes off
Every LEO needs to remember what was said after 11:35.