People Are BIG MAD at Linkin Park | Emily Armstrong Beef
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I think Dave Grohl was waiting for some shit to pop off with a musician so he could sneak in his bastard child news lol. The timing is curious
@@joshtedrow4415 definitely
I feel like we should go a bit easy on Emily herself being tied to Scientology since it's a cult she was born into and she probably can't get out, but at the same time idk how I feel about bringing that baggage to Linkin Park...
I've listened to black metal that overtly brings in heat and extreme views. Emily's being a Scientologist isn't going to bother me in the slightest as long as the next album isn't an alt-rock album all about Xenu and the Galactic Federacy.
Unrelated, Scientology would be dope material for a cheesy power metal band.
Linkin Park is already tied to California bullshit, adultery, and drug abuse within the band
the other people in the band have more at stake than any of the fans do. they have to work with her and perform with her. If they are okay with it, I am not sure how anyone who doesn't actually have to interact with her would care more.
if you see it in the lyrics of some new song, then fair enough....
All religions are cults so no I won't go easy
no one really cares about that. if the songs are good, people will listen
Only Joy Division has pulled this off. They became New Order and were wildly successful.
Emily Armstrong: *Joins linkin park*
Fans: "How dare you stand where he stood!"
The fans are one step closer to the edge...
Audioslave is a bad comparison if you ask me. That was an entirely different concept from RAtM. Plenty of bands continue on with a new singer, like ACDC. Chester didn't own the brand, he wasn't the leader of the band, and if I remember right, he wasn't a founding member, so they did exist without him in some form.
Return of The King
Heeeeeeeeeeeeee’s black!!! I mean back! Not gonna lie, the new song is stuck in my head but her covering the older stuff still doesn’t sound right.
I’m not asking for a carbon copy but it lacks the soul. I felt the soul in the new record.
Yeah, I actually quite like the new single, but her singing the older stuff didn't do much for me.
oops I said Soundgarden instead of Audioslave @ 3:52 lol
How dare you! Derpy derpy reeeeeeee!
@@SomeBlackGuy fake fan... 😔
You can’t replace Chester. Should have made a new band
Exactly my point just change the name that's all I ask for
Why? There is no need for that. Life goes on, bands change vocalists all the time and they never change the name. Look at queen. Why should they let go of everything they built? Its wasn’t just Chester…
all u sadists need to get some sun
That’s just ridiculous for everyone else in the band. It’s not a one man band.
You can replace Chester, because they did. :)
You are my favorite homosexual content creator!
What? When he became gay?
I'm fucking crying 😂😂😂😂
@@StellSamurai24since the arthur video
Thanks for addressing the music directly instead of roping in irrelevant controversy.
Jamie Bennington seems to be spiraling big time & has a lot of controversy involving everyone that was close to his dad Chester in recent years... Tilinda (Chester's window) even has a restraining order against him... & he has beef with "Dead By Sunrise"... Not a good look at all...
Very heartbreaking as the family seem to be in shambles over him. Knowing that mental illness runs in the family, I can only hope he gets help & that others don't feed into his manic state...
Other than that, personally I think its a bit over bloated noise & reactions for a band that everyone deeply cares about as a way of dealing with some form of grief for Chester. Emily can't openly speak out against the cult as she would lose family & horrific things would come from that if so... she's openly gay, to which the cult also don't tolerate. I think she's stuck between a rock & a hard place... she's human after all, we all have Skelton's from our past but I know that means not everyone should get a pass either.
I couldn't agree more that the key changes were not the best move!
They should really revert back to the original as Mike was also struggling to compensate but give it time & they'll settle in & figure it out.
Mike & the guy have every right to continue the band they started & worked their whole life on & nobody is forgetting Chester, in fact, over the last 2 years, they are as popular as ever & bringing in new fans, which is upholding Chester's legacy ♥
if they make good songs the controversy will die out. As long as their songs are mediocre the problems will continue.
the female vocalist was a good idea though cause it avoids some comparisons with chester because it is very different.
people dont care about nuance
good to see ya back buddy!!
did he go anywhere bro? hes on the podcast every week
@@RealBigMitch Back on my feed! Last I seen him was years ago! calm down, fatty!
Linkin Park was the first band I got really into in my teen years. The first music I heard that resonated with me as a clinically depressed kid from a troubled home. The music let me know I wasn't alone. That other people hurt. That it doesn't have to be the end. It was music like this that kept me from killing myself. Genuinely. Angry ass music has always been one of those things that can calm me down no matter what, and to this day Linkin Park is one of my go-tos when I feel like I'm about to crumble to pieces.
That being said. I do not like that they replaced Chester. Dude was one of a kind. You could find someone who can mimic his voice perfectly, but they'll never be able to sing with the emotion he had in those songs. It's hard to replicate that in a song you didn't help create.
Also, M. Shinoda caught into the crypto and NFT grifts, so I'm not at all surprised he'd like someone who is a scientologist. I try not to hear news about him because it makes me realize he's probably a trash human, and that makes me sad.
So is the band going to change their name to Lauren Park or Linkin can't park? 🤔
Not funny.
Zelda-in Park actually
People be like “It’s not the same band without Chester”
You going to discredit the sound of the 5 other members who have been consistent? Insane. It sounds more like Linkin Park than the One More Light album (song example: “Heavy”) entirely, which HAS Chester in it.
So you're going to discredit Chester just cause he was in One More Light when that album was produced by Mike and Brad?
She's in a cult.
I've listened to a few song with Emily Armstrong in it and with all the drama aside her voice quality is harsh but she handles it pretty well from the songs I've heard her sing. It may have been a bad move to let her sing covers in a live crowd like that due to the very noticeable voice quality difference.
To be honest I've always seen it as a mistake for most singers to try to emulate another singers voice or style. I'm happy that she, Emily, didn't do try imitation because singers sound at their best when they sing like themselves. She can't take Chester's place but she can make her own next to where he once stood. With the voice quality difference and nostalgic fans like myself it is a tall order but with time it could work out.
Not sure what's going on with the tone changes. It may be because of Emily's voice difference but its a tad jarring.
There are a lot of worse famous people than Emily that fans simp over.
I think it's cool that they cuanged the key of the old songs to fit her vocals, its like they are distancing themselves from the old Linkin Park like "we are not gonna touch this, that was Chester and this is Emily".
I don't know why, but Chester's son speaking out against her, to me it sounds like a rights issue, like that the family was taken out from the sales of the new albums more than an honest concern with the legacy
They’re dumbing down their sound for her. That’s really sad tbh
@@alphared4655 Linkin Park was never progressive to begin with, stop smoking crack.
Shes good and all........ But shes no COMMANDER SHEPARD
If you wouldn’t support a friend and assume his guilt with any accusation thrown at him…. You’re not a friend. To anyone.
And as for Scientology… no one would dare to criticize a Muslim singer…
Scientology as an institution is a group collective that creates conspiracy after conspiracy, conducts surveillance as an organization, blackmails it's members, and attempts to destroy it's opponents.
Islam is not a collective institution, Muslim individuals may do bad things, but the religion isn't nearly as comparable to Scientology.
Scientology is more comparable to a foreign agency than a true religion.
Yeah I genuinely don't understand a lot of hypocritical, irrational, and absolutist standards these days. People attack her, and others in similar cases, for supporting someone they know and care about. It's insane and disloyal for people to cut ties and denounce someone as soon as it becomes unpopular to like them. People have a really bad habit of turning on people they know as soon as there's controversy nowadays.
Granted, I'm sure she supported Masterson because the church of scientology pressured her to stand by him.
People attacked Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis for standing by Masterson. Prior to the charges and trial, they had all been close friends for like 25 years. It's crazy. They had positive relationships with him and didn't really have a reason to believe he'd do those things. It's very reasonable for them to not blindly believe the accusers and to stand by him until it became clear that he did rape those women.
I even saw people criticizing Danny Masterson's BROTHER, Christopher, for releasing a statement that supported his brother. Think about how crazy this culture has become: friends of 25 years and literal family are attacked for expressing their love and support for someone during the darkest, hardest, most life destroying time in his life. He was justifiably locked away for what he did, but prior to that it seemed only logical for people close to him to be in his corner.
I'm not sure how and why people lost their minds to the point where they'd sever ties with friends and family so quickly like that, but it's kinda sickening that they have no true loyalty. After a criminal conviction, they can reevaluate their statements and denounce hin. However, this absolutist mindset that embraces a "never say anything positive about anyone who's under fire, and be ready to cut ties immediately" is one of the worst things about our society today.
Happy to see you back man
I think obviously the best possible way they could have handled this is to go the Audioslave/New Order route.
I also think they obviously kept the Linkin Park name because they sold 40,000 tickets on literally one day's notice lol. A new band, even if it's the old band, could *never* do that. Branding matters.
Something people seem to be missing are the lyrics of the new song, to me, they're clearly about scientology and their bs
Maybe... I hope some of their other 9 songs on the new album express their dissatisfaction with the cult. It would be epic and shut a lot of mouths.
I hear this too. I can't believe people aren't reading into the lyrics
That honestly went over my head. I’ll look into it
I just love that you use streets of rage 2 sound track in your back ground, I wanna say its the boat stage
My opinion: I don't care about the Scientology thing. As far as Emily goes I feel she has a good voice, and presence, but the band accomodating for her lack of range is kinda weak. Also I think Linkin Park should've just remained defunct after Chester's death or rebranded as a new band. To be honest their new song Emptiness Machine really isn't that good to me. It felt uninspired and I think they wanted to keep the Linkin Park name simply because regardless of if what they put out is good or not people will buy into it because of that brand name recognition. And, as far as Chester son speaking out, I feel a lot of people online were already saying what he did before he said it publicly and he just wanted to have that moment where he was "saying the right things" to get that clout of recognition.
@@jwalksk Chester’s son was the first one to say it loud enough
Well said
@@alphared4655Chester's older son is mentally ill he believes mike has something to do with Chester's death.
They could’ve made a different band. It could’ve gotten former band members. Even without their lead singer. It happened before in music history. Even former members of famous bands made either a solo career or made their own band and did their own thing.
The best in this business are in at least 3 bands. They could have come up with a new band and performed the classic linkin park songs at shows. Most people would love it and be down.
I like her, miss Chester but glad to see the band back together with a new lead.
There's Chester fans and Linkin Park fans. That's really, really sad. How people only care about Chester instead of the entire group. So very disrespectful these fans are.
For real. The whole group is great.
I enjoyed the instrumentals thoroughly, and I also enjoyed the normal vocal tracks as well. I have no issue with this move.
I want to raise this also maybe justmaybe some of our taste in music has changed and we are still attached to LP for nostalgia and the fact we have emotional connections to the songs, i know i have been leaning into techno/trance more now than i used to idk do i like it? Nope Scientology is the reason
To the people complaining about Emily Armstrong being the new LP vocalist. STFU be happy Linkin Park is back together. If you should blame anyone blame mike shinoda. He was the one who hired her.
Dead Sara did the cover of Heart Shaped Box in the trailer for Infamous Second Son. That’s how I found out about them years ago!
when it comes to 'believing women' it really depends on what the accusations are. Also if there are multiple similar allegations it's much more likely to be true. And I still do think you have to take the personalities of the accuser and accused into consideration, even though some people are good at, well, acting.
I don't really get it, if Linkin Park wants to make new songs, they need to replace their singer, and it's not like they pulled a The Offspring and fired Chester for having a health problem that prevented him from getting the jab, Chester died 7 years ago. The rest of the band couldn't do anything about that, death is outside their control.
I'll wait and see how Emily does as the new vocalist for the band.
As for the 'hoogidy-bookedy stuff about Scientology, well, don't believe everything you hear. The main sources of the stuff against it comes from Big Pharma (creators of The Jab) and mainstream media (who NeVeR lies, and is aLwYs FaCtUaLlY AcCuRaTe)
We saw the gay linkin park covet, you need to be the lead singer
funny how metalheads always like to act like they are in a cult but when actual cultist comes in they lose their minds lmao.
also that Chesters son sounds a bit coo coo. the new song is slappin and the live show was pretty good too.
I think Emily is great singer. I think Xenu or Jesus or whatever cult you believe in is whatever. I think Chester's son has mental illness. And I think yes they should continue because Mike knows the best what he wants to do, since hes the Linkin Park, even before Chester was in the band.
I love the shirt and love how you guys have been mentioning it again on the podcast lately. I'm on my 10th play thru straight, I wish I was kidding
The new song was pretty good I think there's just a very big bias against change. Sure Emily Armstrong wasn't amazing in the live but considering it's her first live show at this scale with such intense screaming it's only natural for her to struggle initially.
Not to mention the thousands of linkin park fans expecting a god tier singer, she could’ve been nervous as hell
@@jefferythibodeaux5573 I can tell you I wouldn't want to be in her position. That's one hell of a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.
I don't hate her voice but she can't be Chester. If they want to move forward with new songs I'm down but old songs just don't work. I've heard all of them so many times and she just doesn't do it for me.
Their new stuff is honestly... just not good and Linkin Park fans are deluding themselves into thinking it is, because they're straight starving.
I truthfully believe that whoever that brought out for their new singer would still got backlash, like it could been anyone that she a Scientology that also she threat one of the witness of Danny Masterson victims that where I had a problem with and Chester own son dislike her, I like her voice but that I got a mix feeling like image you get threat by her and years later you see her become one of the best bands ever I would hate it
My coworker showed me a vid of their performance. I think the idea of a new person is ok but once they put her out to sing Chesters songs was too soon for some ppl. Like ok get a new person, maybe change the name and not sing Chesters parts keep it as is.
Think I'll judge them by their music, don't really care much about her history as it seems very hyperbolic to me. Not even Chester was perfect.
Reddit has a hate bonner for her bad.
I listened to The Emptiness Machine and it just doesn't scream LP, like at all. I've seen youtube vocalists doing LP covers that would have been better choices. Mike Shinoda loves his side projects and this should have been one of them. Don't tarnish the legacy of the band.
It's just understandable. People are overly excited by nostalgia and want, even NEED, Linkin Park to be back so they'll simp for it as hard as it gets. Actively and wilfully gaslighting themselves into saying it is great it is wonderfull it is the best etc etc. But it's okay to admit that the replacement isn't very good, at least not in this position and they should either change the band name or keep searching.
Also another common heard point is that Chester wasn't the original or that he was not Linkin Park on his own and let's not fool ourselves, he very much was. They didn't become the huge succes they became if it weren't for Chester.
Also, regarding people hating on Armstrong for being a woman... I've also seen the reverse people going out of their way to scream support precisely because she is a woman.
I like her voice for a blues band.
Have you been playing wh40k space marine 2?
You can like the music, not the people. I've met many people I looked up to and most of the time, I get disappointed.
They are just as messy as any other person.
Nobody’s perfect
I just want more music
I'm not mad about it because i only love 5 linkin park songs so I'll just listen to them, also this reminds me of people that like three days grace when Adam left and matt joined
@6:40 IDK man on the other hand you have a Marilyn Manson case where he got accused by one person. Then a bunch of other people came out and then they admitted they were pressured to falsely come out by the original "victim" and their team with a money incentive.
Emo Negro needs more subs
I don't care about them getting a new singer it's not the first time a band has done so and it won't be the last I don't care that she's a cult member but I do care about her defending a predator I do care that she tried to intimidate a victim at the trial
DERRICK U POSTED, FOR ME?
I don’t like her being the lead. She has talent but her voice doesn’t sound right singing the originals. The key like you said just makes me feel like “this isn’t linkin park” it feels like I’m listening to a local teen band. I don’t care too much about the Scientology crap or that she’s a woman. A female vs male singing voice always can sound weird when going from one to the next. Hearing Dolly Parton sing tom petty or vice verse would be jarring. However, it can be done and can take time. However, changing the entire tune to fit her skill set should not be seen as acceptable. To me it damn near feels like dude wants to bang her with how out of place it feels as the only logical reasoning for the choice. Successful covers or remakes require similar voices or being faithful to the original, or completely taking the lyrics with a whole new energy which is risky. Like the cover of fast car, Tracy Chapman had a more masculine voice for a woman and was a lesbian so a guy singing it still worked overall with only one semi out of place line. Replacements are always hard.
Yeah, I didn't care one way or the other at the announcement. but with the scientology bull shit in there, hell no.
Emily Armstrong seems to be a good singer her ties to sciencetolgy is a weird and interesting the emptiness machine sung by sounds pretty good
I really wish Linkin Park went down the path that Joy Division took, new LP is just cashing in on nostalgia and Emily is an unnecesarily controversial choice that Chester would have not approved of
I only liked a few songs from them when Chester was the lead and I don't really care about this new version of the band. The song they released was just meh. People will always find something to bitch about. Her defence of Danny Masterson was pretty gross but when you're a pawn of a cult that your born into it's gonna happen.
I realy don'tn know about any of the drama, I just know that RUclips Music put that thing on my playlist and for half a song I thought it was The Killers.
What in the world? 😂 Am I hearing this ish😂 What is this year???
Mass effect t shirt??? Rly iga?
As an artist she's got a decent voice. Just not right for LP. As a person and her connections to Scientology she definitely has no business being in LP or really any band. And Chesters son is 100% right.
Emily is the greatest singer since Chester \o/
People are mad at the danny mastison problem .
The real problem is her trying to sing older songs, to me, she sounds like a drunk chick at karoke night . I will try to listen to the new single . But the rift between the benningtons and Mike is adding fuel to the fire
Yeah, her singing the classic songs feels weird
Stinkin Park
They should have gone with the lead singer of Hybrid theory. He sounds just like Chester. With Linkin park they have that specific sound. ACDC never replaced Bon Scott with a female vocalist that sounded nothing like Bon did they. They sound nothing like they used to.
Hybrid Theory had Chester as the lead. You just said Chester sounds like Chester.
Also, Linkin Park sounds EXACTLY the same as it used to, go listen to Hunting Party again. It sounds the same. The backgrounds (the 5 other members of the band btw) are the same style.
What about the album One More Light that had Chester in it? None of that sounded like Linkin Park but it had Chester. Go listen to “Heavy (ft Kiiara)” and tell me that Chester song sounds more like Linkin Park than the new song. I’ll tell you that you’re wrong if you think that Heavy is more LP than the new song with this new girl.
They should have gone with Bonnie the Australian chick who covered given up. She was much closer and doesn’t have the baggage of being a Scientologist who gathered groups to intimidate victims of Danny Masterson. Which stings worse because she represents a lot of things Chester spent his life fighting against.
Yo that song they dropped was weak, ngl. Her voice ain't even that memorable either. They should've just hung it up.
the goat
We had two singers in Linkin Park???
They sound exactly the same.
At least with the new female singer I could there are two of them.
I haven't listened to the old stuff yet but I thought she did great on their new song. It sounded a lot to me like a female version of Chester.
I was open minded listening to the songs and then I regretted every minute of it.
Imagine caring about Stinkin Fart
I understand why they got a women alright. Gotta push that feminist agenda right?
Those people need to get a life.
I mean she’s just helping keep the LP name going, Respect to her ❤
I hate Mike for adding Emily and having the balls to call it Linkin Park. Chester + Mike was Linkin Park.
He should've started a New band. it's not like the LP fans would'nt follow him. But he had to keep the Linkin Park name because it more famous and recognizable. F*ck Mike, F*ck Emily, and F*ck fake Linkin Park. RIP chester
The company have to get their never ending share.
vit D
This is ridiculous, female singer
😂 DEI singer
Chester is not some kind of hero. He selfishly took himself out and left I think 6 children behind
the judge said that Ted Bundy was well spoken and it was a waster of his talents that he chose this path because he would have made a good lawyer.
he wasn't saying that he was "so great" he was saying of "what a waste"!
I don’t like her voice. It’s bland. Their new music is just the same. They can have their new crap.
Nobody even gave a shit about Linkin Park even when Chester died, which is probably why he committed suicide honestly, because the album's reception was poor. What makes Linkin Park think that people are gonna give a shit about them now, especially when Chester is out of the picture.
not him being sexually abused, its the poor reception to albums lol
The reality is fans should never be in charge of a bands decision if you don't respect the bands decision there's the door I think chester would be ashamed of his son for that opinion a band Is more than just 1 member and Linkin Park flat out said in the most recent interviews its not about replacing it's about a new start and while I don't agree with her and the Danny situation I don't really care about the scientology thing as long as it's not being pushed on people
That’s actually reasonable, if enough fans go out the door and they don’t have enough sells, they’ll just fall into obscurity and can pretty much call their careers over.
I would have liked to see them pick someone like Austin from The Broken View. I think he sounds very similar (they even have a really good cover of “Breaking The Habit” here on RUclips).
Linkin Park going on with their Band is fine to me. I was a fan of Emily before already, used to listen to Dead Sara in the past from time to time, but I didn't know anything about her. As an artist I think she fits in really well with te new Song, but I didn't hear her sing the old Songs.
I can kind of understand the Danny Masterson thing. I mean if my friend would accused of a Crime, I would probably not believe it at first either, and she did distance herself from him now, so it is pretty suspect, but at least she distanced herself. But the Scientology thing is bad.
LP 🗑 now
I'm doing gay, thanks for asking!
Emily is amazing trust me! No 1 can replace chester but Emily would me an excellent place holder!
I guess the fans think they've know what's best for LP and that Mike and the rest have no idea what they're doing at all... ffs smh
Not knowing allllllllllllllll of that which you have mentioned, me listening unbiasedly, I felt her vocals are lacking something. She's missing a uniqueness to her voice that I feel the band needs.
I’m curious if you watch any Tom Cruise movies?
The old songs with her voice do not sound too great. Their new song I like and curious for the album. I believe things could be better if Emily openly apologized to the victims she harrased while she was supporting Danny Masterson. Made to support him just sounds weird like who made you. Sucks as LP was a band that got me through alot and want to give the new LP a try but I don't know. I don't mind moving on with out Chester but not in this way.