I think the second woman is Sarah Forbes Bonetta. She was given to queen Victoria at the age of 8 as a gift. She was originally from what is now Benin. The queen became her god mother and made sure she She was educated and married well. She was a well known socialite in England 1843-1880.
Made a comment of this as well. Supposedly Sarah, was connected with the Yoruba, her family was Very Wealthy. Queen Victoria, and Prince Albert adopted her. Her story is quite interesting.
I want more pictures and the backstory of each woman. Makes me proud 👏🥲 I don't know how this happened but my comment was meant for another video on black upper class women at the turn of the century. Don't know how my comment ended up here.
@@yaelB9467 there’s something both tragic and viciously endowing to see those photos. I have paintings of my family from when the Ottoman Empire took over and we were reduced to slaves. And again I have faded photos from when my family thought they’d be next to die during ww2 for our faith. Now I treasure my grandparent’s photos for how they somehow made it through the poverty the USSR thrashed at us. Still, they looked amazing. Even when they thought they’d never make it out alive. What strong ancestors must be watching over us. Bless you and all of those before you hun❤️❤️
but of course, you would find a high percentage of middle class black women in the Caribbean. They, being the black population, would have been in the majority - it makes only sense that it would be this way Edit; it would seem to be that many have misread my comment thinking that i was saying that the MAJORITY of black women in the Caribbean WERE middle class instead of what actually meant being that the majority OF middle class women ( as in a high number of those ladies who considered themselves to be middle class) could be found in the Caribbean because of the way society was organised there ( there being a much higher number of the population being of colour AND the fact of mixed marriages not being illegal such as in the US). I hope this makes it clearer for those who didnt understand
Firstly, that image of Dido Elizabeth Belle was not Victorian, but Georgian. And secondly, it depicts Dido with her cousin. Dido herself (biracial) was welcomed in the family but not by the community. She was cared for by her uncle.
For those of you wondering what fantopopius means: The creator of this video has quite literally copied everything in this video from an article titled “27 Rarely Seen Photos Of ‘High-Society’ Black Women During The Victorian Era”. Everything that was said in this video can be found written verbatim in that article, the only part that she didn’t steal and actually made up herself was “firstly a moment of silence for these fantopopius women” which is probably why it’s the only unintelligible part of the video. I’m guessing perhaps English is not the video creator’s first language? Either way, in the heading of the article they describe the women in the photos as - “Educators, artists, debutants, and *philanthropists* “ I believe this is where she got fantopopius from, as it is the closest match I could find in the article and it appears numerous times throughout the article as well as in the main heading… the only other word in the article that is remotely similar is “fantastical” which only appears once. I personally think she was aiming for philanthropists as it sounds more like fantopopius than fantastical does, and also if you asked a 1 year old to “repeat after me… philanthropist”, they would almost certainly reply with “fantopopius”. Hope this helps everyone 🙏
The lady in the second picture was an African princess brought over as a young child as a gift to Queen Victoria. She had lost both parents and was saved from war, but was actually adopted by Queen Victoria. She lived the high life of a royal/noblewoman.
There were many high society black women and men back in the 1700's & 1800's. Many were successful land owners, farmers, business owners, preachers etc.
You'd think at a time when racism was at it's peak and there was a lot of slavery, that Black people wouldn't dress like this and have so much class, have their family businesses etc. when in fact they did. Today there's no slavery in the west yet a lot of us Black people seem to be at our worst (specifically in America ie no class, terrible culture and low literacy and numeracy skills etc.) But they want to blame all their problems on "slavery and racism" isn't it a joke?
The story behind Dido Elizabeth Belle is fascinating. At the time of the painting in 1778, black people were only ever added to portraits unless they were kneeling below a white noble or showing some kind of submission towards them. Being bi racial Dido defintely didn't have things the easiest; but in the painting of her and her cousin Elizabeth Murray, she's standing up and while Elizabeth is sitting down. Signifying that Dido was quite literally above her in terms of status. After her mother Maria Belle passed away while enslaved, her father Sir John Lindsay, (a British Naval officer) refused to let history repeat itself. She only met her father once, but he brought her on his ship to his uncle Lord Mansfield had him promise to raise her as a real lady with his wife. It's unknown if she ever knew her mother, but speculated that she didn't. John knew she had a right to a good life but also knew that with all of his duties, he wouldn't be able to take care of her in the way she needed. Lord Mansfield was one of the most powerful men in all of England besides the king, so this was a huge deal. She was John's heiress, and no one could argue with that. The painting was commissioned by the higly successful artist David Martin. It's unknown if Dido picked out her own outfit to pay tribute to her heritage or if David chose the outifit to signify her high status, as what she's wearing can be seen in several of his other portraits of high ranking nobles. This was ground breaking as a person of color being portrayed in a positive, much less noble light, was non existent in any portraits of the time. The painting was made in her honor and her great-uncle insisted it hang at his home (Kentwood) all the way up until his death. The painting is currently at Scone Palace in Scotland. She fought to abolish British slavery alongside Lord Mansfield because she thought that if she was special enough to be treated like a human being, her mother and other slaves should have the right to the same opportunity. She eventually settled down, got married and had kids, and lived a very comfortable life up until her death. Her last living decendant passed away in the 1970's.
The fact that we don't have a biopic for her yet is borderline criminal tbh. Her story is so fascinating and there could honestly be a movie franchise based on different events/eras of her life!
@@sourdrop there is a film called Belle. It’s been out for a few years now and it’s really good. It’s a film directed by a Ghanaian female film director too which makes it extra special
I watched this movie for the first time a few months ago. I can’t recall if it was on Netflix, Hulu or on a cable movie channel. I would highly recommend it.
Actually we do know some of them - one of them (the painting) is Dido Elizabeth Belle - first known black British aristocrat. She isn’t actually Victorian she’s Georgian but the eras are consecutive. The woman in the 2nd and 5th photos is Sara Forbes Bonetta - she was a Yoruba princess called Aina who was taken captive and ‘gifted’ to Queen Victoria. She grew up to be quite accomplished but it was still awful what happened to her.
The Second Lady was actually a princess from the Yoruba people. She was orphaned during a war with a neighboring kingdom and was rescued by an English sailor. After that Queen Victoria took her under her wing and called she became her godmother.
She was actually enslaved. When they found out that she was off royal blood the Queen took her in as her daughter. Got her a good husband and she died young from being sickly. The Queen says she was sick because she’s from the tropics and she was taken to the cold. She really loved her. When she was told of her death she had her buddy returned so she could be buried as a royal.
And it's so weird that you would change the fact that she was enslaved and basically given away, with words like that she was saved, or that the queen took her under her wing...
@@patatav7780"Change?" Why are you being so vindictive that your first thought is that OP personally rewrote what they read to fit a racist narrative? Maybe that's what they read in their research! So quick to demonize someone.
All these beautiful black women should have been acknowledged in history. It feels like black people have always been portrayed like they NEVER had any privileges,wealth or stature. More of these facts should be in education. Time to broaden the wide history of black people. ❤❤
They present themselves as being strictly histories victims, don’t try and blame everyone else as usual. I’ve seen enough blacks find out this is their heritage,not slavery, and they fall into crying heaps, they want victimhood
Photography was relatively new and a lot of people didn’t trust it. In immediate post-Civil War America, racism wasn’t entirely systemic yet. Some areas welcomed black people and there were many all black communities. Tulsa, OK would become an economic hub, until the massacre. Cattle drive stops saw entire families drove herds, then stay a few years, then move on to settle their own farms in towns like Nicodemus, Kansas or build larger businesses that would be traded in the Tulsa markets. Then Jim Crow opened his stupid piehole and it got nasty. America has yet to fully recover.
@@thatonethisone5904 don’t worry, there have been plenty of events that black people were the victims of in US history even wealthy POC. The Tulsa Race Massacre comes to mind.
The 4th picture is that of Dido Elizabeth Belle, who was the daughter of Sir John Lindsay. The painting is of her and her cousin Lady Elizabeth Murray. Dido Belle was the niece of Earl of Mansfield and Lord Chief Justice of England, William Murray, who adopted her.
The funny thing I find about the mammy costume is that it was literally just working class clothes. I'm a reenactor and that's essentially what I wear, but as a mixed Native American and Anglo woman, nobody sees it the same way.
@@historybound9615 I don't think that there's anything funny about the caricatures. But I'm curious, did Tignon Laws apply to all working class women?
@@jojoone1099 there were sumptuary laws in place for all classes. Irish slaves of the period, for example, were restricted to certain lower grades of fabric, were not allowed certain head coverings, could not buy certain types of buttons, etc. Middle class women of any color or nationality could still not buy certain grades of cloth and even certain colors were forbidden. Mind you, I'm not a dress historian, my specialty lies in soap making and housekeeping practices so my knowledge is limited to practical experience. Working class clothes varied from one nationality and class to another and changed over time, but the typical mammy costume is simply working class wear. People only see it as such on a dark skinned body, on someone with a pale face, they stop seeing it that way. All that means is that it's a perception that makes the clothes, not the clothes that make the perception.
@@historybound9615 One of the reasons the kerchief, rough shirt and apron is associated with m-mmies is that it has been a persistent trope in popular /culture for more than a hundred years. It began as a way of de-sexualizing and de-feminizing black women. Popular culture has cemented this trope in people's minds. More than a century of memorabilia, books, movies, TV shows, household items, etc. have presented M-mmy as being one of the archetypes associated with Black women. Women of other ethnicities/nationalities have been represented in a multitude of ways in culture, art, and history --- Black women have not. There's nothing funny, amusing, or odd about that.
@@elsajones6325 to be fair most people nowadays don't run, climb or practice physical activities daily and I don't see why they would at the time, men or women. If you just take strolls and sit all day long you don't need particularly comfortable clothes. The issue is some women took pride in having a small waist and would tighten their corset 'till they could barely breath.
The second photo and the fifth, looks like a young woman named Sarah. Whose family came from Wealth, Out of Africa. The story, has it that there was some type of tribal, war of some sort going on and all of Sarah's family was killed her mother/father. She was the only living Survivor, that was rescued. Prince Albert, was in Africa, at the time. He... rescued Sarah, and brought her back to England. Where he and Queen Victoria, adopted her as well as her wealth that came along with her adoption. She died of an illness at a relatively young age. Her story is still... interesting to do some research on. This was the first story reported years ago. Now... the story seems to have changed a bit. Do your own research. If interested. One thing for sure... Queen Victoria, did adopt Sarah. Thank you for sharing.
Yes! Sarah was a lucky girl!! The movie Out of Africa was not about her, though. Great movie (funny enough, I just re-watched it last night! One of my favorite movies!!)
@@HappyThifeNot the same at all. Amonute (nicknamed “Pocahontas”) was basically kidnapped to be made an example of, to justify cultural genocide. Sara Forbes Bonetta was orphaned by war, enslaved, then given to Frederick E. Forbes as a “gift” for Victoria- ironically, during negotiations against the slave trade. Because of this (and also because it seemed she was likely from a background of some status), she was adopted & raised to be well-educated. She may have lived a life under much scrutiny, but by most accounts she lived a decent life for the time
She wasn’t part of the British royal family and she wasn’t adopted by Queen Victoria. The Queen sponsored her education and living cost. She was invited to visit the palace several times, but she was not formally adopted or considered a part of the family. Queen Victoria also sponsored her daughter’s education because Sarah died young in her mid 30s. Please be careful with spreading misinformation.
@Fey Rol she was a ward and goddaughter. As was customerary, she was a princess gifted to the Queen Mother. It was a political move, not a pity case. I get a hint of contempt in your wording. Did I challenge your sense supremacy?.
The second photograph is of Her Royal Highness Aina, a Yoruba Princess of the Egbado dynasty. Her parents were mudered by Ghezo of Dahomey, Benin/Togo after which she was sent to Queen Victoria. Princess Aina, changed her name to Sarah after she was baptised, on her way to England. "Bonetta" was the name of the ship of captain Frederick Forbes, which was sent to rescue her, by the King. Aina is a Yoruba name, given to children, born with an umbilical cord around their necks. Queen Victoria was impressed by Aina's intelligence. In 1862, she got married in a lavish wedding featuring ten carriages. She eventually settled in colonial Lagos, naming her first child Victoria with the Queen's blessing. When Sarah died of tuberculosis, aged just 37, the Queen wrote: “Saw poor Victoria Davies, my black godchild, who learnt this morning of the death of her dear mother.”
History should never be destroyed or forgotten. So of history is hurtful to see but your great grandchildren will appreciate the history. From slavery to the President. That's some history.
Just as long as you tell the WHOLE story, like who captured the people and sold them to slave traders, who then transported them around the world. And don't forget which countries ended slavery...which still exists in the middle east.
@@teresarenee3829 yeah I agree and don't forget any of the parts in the middle when they were raped killed and used for hard labor and tested on for medical research separated from their family's and culture beaten if they had education and the other parts where they claimed land that people were already on and then called it Columbus Day
I wish in our textbooks at school we had these photos. I want black girls to see themselves in history not just as oppressed people but also as wealthy people and well dressed people, like they do showing the Europeans.
Black women don’t have to be dressed as Europeans to be wealthy and not oppressed. Why people don’t see African tribal traditions as good enough, and have to rest their hopes on maybe black people had some place in Europe I don’t understand. In these time periods nobody was oppressing black people. White people didn’t even make it into the interior of Africa for the slave trade that their own people sentenced them to. The capturing of other tribes to sell into slavery was done by Africans. And their cultures were flourishing at the rate they would if they had had no contact with other people groups. There were rulers and hierarchy, rich people for their cultural standards and less fortunate. They don’t have to be dressed in clothes from the west to be dignified or show status for their culture.
The sad fact is that whenever we are taught about black history it is always the story of slavery, oppression, and Jim Crow. It’s never EVER about those who weren’t oppressed and it presents the impression that every black person in a non-African context was always treated and lived as subhuman and enslaved. It’s never the stories of those that escaped oppression and were successful. And that’s what’s truly heartbreaking. This is not me trying to say that learning about oppression is something we shouldn’t do. But in addition to tragedy, we need to give our flowers to people like the women in this video. People who despite biases, were able to succeed.
To be honest, black parents aren't doing nearly enough to pass down this history. If we're calling people 'oppressors' then we can't expect them to teach us our own history. There are no excuses in the age of Google.
That was intentional. They want us to feel lessor than them so that they will remain the dominant species. They will never teach you your story. Just HIStory.
Sorry, but your comment is horribly misinformed. Don't mistake success for not being oppressed. Oppression was the status quo for ALL black people - it merely varied in severity depending on region, and some black families were better insulated against oppression if they came from free blacks (which many middle class/wealth blacks did). Lots of these wealthy/middle class blacks WERE oppressed, and they would've been much more successful than they were if they had been white. They worked 10x harder to get half as far as they would have gotten if they were white. I have several successful/known ancestors in my family tree, including a long line of free blacks, but they were all impacted/stunted by racism. That was something none of them could escape.
@@anyaw340 I don’t think I’m denying that in my comment. All I’m saying is that perhaps in addition to learning only about slavery and horror, we can learn about those who “succeeded”/were able to “succeed” despite the horrible circumstances they encountered. Because I know many of my black classmates at school used to ask “so is that it? We only could be slaves and nothing else? Is there any black history without being in constant pain?” I know what you’re saying but you’ve really misconstrued my comment to be denying that racism and oppression didn’t exist. No. I’m asking that a more diverse and thorough history be taught when we get to learn about black history. Cause it really used to impact my classmates and peers. Please don’t assume someone is ignorant or someone is malintentioned. It was very hurtful to read what you wrote cause it’s clear you didn’t think about the intention of my comment. It’s not me denying those awful factors. But asking for us to learn about those who were able to be of any amount of “success”. I’m a person of color too- I used to hate when the history of my people was taught at school because instead of talking about success stories, cool empires from the country, scientists, those that made contributions, all I got to hear was the oppressions, racism, poverty, starvation, and subjugation of my people. And bc of my parents, I used to bring up constantly that despite everything my people went through people still were able to have a come up, overcome, fight that oppression to find some success. Because only hearing that your people were put down and could never come up makes you think low of yourself (from my experience personally). It hurt as a child to constantly hear people call my people poor and pathetic. Just like it hurt my black classmates to hear others make jokes about enslavement, sharecropping, and more. Misunderstanding and misconstruing someone trying to ask to learn a more nuanced history is not fair and extremely presumptive.
Looking at the stories of these women that isn't the case. One of them was sent back to Africa because she kept getting sick. She was sent as a pet to Queen Victoria who allowed her to be educated and brought up properly
I'm a latin woman . Ever since elementary I remember my black girlfriends were always the best dressed . Even now my some of my coworkers have the most classy style of dressing .
@@sazhidasamadihi. Friendly life hack # 2: love and respect other people. You don't want someone saying that about you or someone else in your stereotype classification.
Black women are beautiful people. They are and always have been envied for their physical bodies, their strength of character and warm, beautiful souls. Very special humans. Anything spoken against them is spoken out of jealousy. And ignorance.
These are the women Netflix should be doing series about and that people should learn more about, and not changing the story of Cleopatra. There are many black women who deserve recognition, there's no need to be stealing other people's stories
Anyone interested in life of upperclass black people in antebellum America: Sketches of the Higher Classes of Colored Society in Philadelphia, first published in 1841, was written by Joseph Willson, a southern black man who had moved to Philadelphia
I once saw a movie about the "C" club. It was about Black Girls AKA Debs, & their coming out parties. All of the Girls had to be no darker skinned than the color of a brown paper bag. I was in complete shock watching the movie; I wish I could remember its name.
I’m so thankful for our Gorgeous photo of Grandma Velvet she looks fabulous. Even my dad was talking about how few cameras black people had when he was growing up. Often lots of people joined in to take a large group photo together since it was such a rare privilege . 🙏🏽💖 God bless us all the best of times, provisions, love and happiness 💖🙏🏽
Women’s lives were tough back then, in general, but black women faced, and still face, perils that white women do not. As I looked at these pictures, I inevitably thought about the heartache and hardship these proud, beautiful women faced. May they all Rest In Power.
@@cincin4515 Can’t believe people can read things that are historically factual and then claim someone is “pulling a ___ card”. Quit being insensitive.
The history Channel has been doing this for years and years, on shows like ancient aliens( like when they are showing old pics or renaissance art for example)and many others. The FDR mini series that starts on memorial day most likely be like this as well. Last year their Teddy Roosevelt one did. It is cool I agree.
I’m a black goth obsessed with the Victorian aesthetic. This was lovely to see this morning. ❤❤❤ I will research more. You would think all blacks were poor then.
@@aurablue368 - some black women actually did. If you Google 'original Spelman students' you will see that many of the women do not have straightened hair.
One of those images is a self-portrait of a British photographer who is still alive! It's Heather Agyepong for her Reimag(in)ing The Victorians Series.
If “fantopopius” was a word, it would probably mean “an image/illusion like person of/belonging to the people.” The prefix “fanto” or “phanto” means illusion. The root word “pop” means people. The suffix “ius” means of or belonging to.
@@jadajadamoats5567 hearing that racist comment, I know your heart is ice cold. Either get a real personality or you’ll keep being treated the way you don’t want to be treated. All people within society live by this standard.
Ofc not. But unfornately the seeds of the slavery and segregation and slavery on a global scale is still sprouting and poisoning our society, we still have a lot of reforming to do. Reforming of the minds of our people. As the heart that is what these historical atrocities was about imprisoning the mind, to perpetuate ideas of subordination. For ultimate capitol gain. And it's prevalent to this day. Our political system, culture add the fucking British monarchy still exists, and it's tolerated why? In the same of capitol gain.
Black people depicted as animals??? That's horrible! These women look so beautiful. I dream of the day where people only see the person in front of them and not a colour. 🙏❤
Don't believe everything you hear on RUclips. He's clearly saying one thing while showing you the dead opposite. Use your brain for deduction instead of reaction. Your eyes are not lying to you as he says.
Don't forget the zoos of black people. Black people were considered livestock during slavery; until the south needed more political influence and made black people 3/4 of a person to boost their population for more influence in congress.
@@cincin4515 Black and African people were depicted as animals back then, dunce. They weren’t even considered human they were considered livestock and savages. The 3/5ths rule ring a bell? Probably not. Go look up human zoos and the story of Ota Benga. Go look at cartoon and minstrel depictions of black people at that time. Go look up Sarah Baartman. There’s a reason these are rare pictures. You have the knowledge of the world at your fingers and you’re too busy sticking them in your ears what a waste.
@@cincin4515 they’re were zoos with black people in fences and black people were portrayed as animals in caricatures so the narrator isn’t really wrong.
Can I just say that I really appreciate the reverence and respect you had for these woman in the voice over. So often videos talk about these very real people as if they're sensationalized characters with little to no respect for their struggle. Loved this video, thank you for sharing❤
I remember reading a Fictional based on facts by Anne Rice called FEAST OF ALL SAINTS. About the gens de couleur libres who lived in New Orleans before the Civil War…. It was insightful and interesting…. I spent my life going to Louisiana to work and saw a lot of New Orleans..we lived near, 30 minutes away from the French Quarters.
Thank you for the photos. My grandparents on both sides immigrated in the early 1900's so my family does not have that sin of slavery. Thank god. If I was alive back then I am sure I would have partook in the Underground Railroad.
Really guess what their were wealthy blacks ... uhm and they were often slave traders not being hateful .. it's just basic easily found in history books
YEP! We were the major trade, commerce and growth of all economic stability during that era. As for those "strings that were attached" to these black Victorian sistas', it was selling out from the comforts of black men; which explains the nature of MOST; IF NOT ALL, of our African American women against us Black American men today. They sold those black men out for privileges... just like ours today with the government. Do N'Joy your Day and Nite'. 😑
@@iamabsolution95 so let me guess black American men don't sell us out? They don't choose white women over us? Then turn around and down us? The same women who raised them? Ill wait....
Understood, however in this particular video we’re acknowledging black women. Not sure why people always bring in the “ all people “ argument when it pertains specifically to black people.
I think that pretty much went for all women regardless their skin color in those days. Not to mention that some of the wealthiest slave owners were black themselves , who owned both black and white slaves.
The creator of this video has quite literally copied everything in this video from an article titled “27 Rarely Seen Photos Of ‘High-Society’ Black Women During The Victorian Era”. Everything that was said in this video can be found written verbatim in that article, the only part that he didn’t steal and actually made up himself was “firstly a moment of silence for these fantopopius women” which is probably why it’s the only unintelligible part of the video. I’m guessing perhaps English is not the video creator’s first language? Either way, in the heading of the article they describe the women in the photos as - “Educators, artists, debutants, and *philanthropists* “ I believe this is where he got fantopopius from, as it is the closest match I could find in the article and it appears numerous times throughout the article as well as in the main heading… the only other word in the article that is remotely similar is “fantastical” which only appears once. I personally think he was aiming for philanthropists as it sounds more like fantopopius than fantastical does, and also if you asked a 1 year old to “repeat after me… philanthropist”, they would almost certainly reply with “fantopopius”. Hope this helps 🙏
I think the second woman is Sarah Forbes Bonetta. She was given to queen Victoria at the age of 8 as a gift. She was originally from what is now Benin. The queen became her god mother and made sure she She was educated and married well. She was a well known socialite in England 1843-1880.
Made a comment of this as well. Supposedly Sarah, was connected with the Yoruba, her family was Very Wealthy. Queen Victoria, and Prince Albert adopted her. Her story is quite interesting.
Doesn't seem as the Queen or her people thought of her as an animal did she?
I want more pictures and the backstory of each woman.
Makes me proud 👏🥲
I don't know how this happened but my comment was meant for another video on black upper class women at the turn of the century. Don't know how my comment ended up here.
@@kiki29073 doesn't necessarily mean they thought she was equal.
@@jcwarner90 : Victoria did. She knew the girl was a kings daughter and treated her as such. You don’t know much about QV, do you?
By the Victorian era, many black women in Carribean countries were dressed like this. Wasn’t rare or uncommon
True I have pictures of my great grandmother dress exactly like this. And she is from the Carribean
@@yaelB9467 there’s something both tragic and viciously endowing to see those photos. I have paintings of my family from when the Ottoman Empire took over and we were reduced to slaves. And again I have faded photos from when my family thought they’d be next to die during ww2 for our faith. Now I treasure my grandparent’s photos for how they somehow made it through the poverty the USSR thrashed at us. Still, they looked amazing. Even when they thought they’d never make it out alive. What strong ancestors must be watching over us. Bless you and all of those before you hun❤️❤️
but of course, you would find a high percentage of middle class black women in the Caribbean. They, being the black population, would have been in the majority - it makes only sense that it would be this way
Edit; it would seem to be that many have misread my comment thinking that i was saying that the MAJORITY of black women in the Caribbean WERE middle class instead of what actually meant being that the majority OF middle class women ( as in a high number of those ladies who considered themselves to be middle class) could be found in the Caribbean because of the way society was organised there ( there being a much higher number of the population being of colour AND the fact of mixed marriages not being illegal such as in the US). I hope this makes it clearer for those who didnt understand
Not true most blacks were poor throughout the Americas there were many established families but it was not the norm
@@-MaryPoppins- what you said make sense. When we dig in our family history we discovered all she have been through and it wasn’t a beautiful story.
Firstly, that image of Dido Elizabeth Belle was not Victorian, but Georgian. And secondly, it depicts Dido with her cousin. Dido herself (biracial) was welcomed in the family but not by the community. She was cared for by her uncle.
I'd argue since many of these are Americans they're not Victorian either, since there was no monarch ruling over Americans post 1776.
@@texasred2702 Not officially...
Although she married well and did well in the end!
Victorian Era.
@@user-ky7jx1cr5k No. It was the Georgian era.
For those of you wondering what fantopopius means:
The creator of this video has quite literally copied everything in this video from an article titled “27 Rarely Seen Photos Of ‘High-Society’ Black Women During The Victorian Era”. Everything that was said in this video can be found written verbatim in that article, the only part that she didn’t steal and actually made up herself was “firstly a moment of silence for these fantopopius women” which is probably why it’s the only unintelligible part of the video. I’m guessing perhaps English is not the video creator’s first language? Either way, in the heading of the article they describe the women in the photos as - “Educators, artists, debutants, and *philanthropists* “
I believe this is where she got fantopopius from, as it is the closest match I could find in the article and it appears numerous times throughout the article as well as in the main heading… the only other word in the article that is remotely similar is “fantastical” which only appears once. I personally think she was aiming for philanthropists as it sounds more like fantopopius than fantastical does, and also if you asked a 1 year old to “repeat after me… philanthropist”, they would almost certainly reply with “fantopopius”.
Hope this helps everyone 🙏
Omg 😂 thank you for posting this.
From philanthropist to fantopolos…this made me laugh. Thank you for posting!
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Demonstrates the low intelligence very well
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The lady in the second picture was an African princess brought over as a young child as a gift to Queen Victoria. She had lost both parents and was saved from war, but was actually adopted by Queen Victoria. She lived the high life of a royal/noblewoman.
Yes she was her Goddaughter.
The tv show Victoria, has an episode with the story of the African princess adopted by Queen Victoria.
Thank you. People need to know
@@theprincessthepea441 I saw that episode. It was very touching, because it showed a young queen looking out for the welfare of a young princess.
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The painting of the two girls isn't Victorian, it's Georgian. The black girl dressed in the Turkish style is called Dido Belle.
I thought Dido had a white father?
@@nonino1644 She did.
Nobody is going to talk about the fact that he said “ fantopopius”. He made that word up on the spot, I bet
i was just thinking that. i’ve spent the last 5 minutes trying to figure this word out lol
@@lindsayburtle7856 he made it up
He did. There’s no such word.
He totally did.. fantopopius lol🤣
I think he misspelled fantabulous which roughly means fantastic or wonderful.
There were many high society black women and men back in the 1700's & 1800's. Many were successful land owners, farmers, business owners, preachers etc.
Exactly. Not every Black person was a slave. Many were able to run businesses and be land-owners.
Yeah some black owners also owned slaves in their businesses and lands
@@42cherr All black slaves originate from Africa where their own people sold them first anyway.
The world is not racist, it’s classist, and still is.
@@serenitypeaceandcomfort3669 and the rich ones owned slaves.... It's just facts. Sad but a reality
You'd think at a time when racism was at it's peak and there was a lot of slavery, that Black people wouldn't dress like this and have so much class, have their family businesses etc. when in fact they did. Today there's no slavery in the west yet a lot of us Black people seem to be at our worst (specifically in America ie no class, terrible culture and low literacy and numeracy skills etc.) But they want to blame all their problems on "slavery and racism" isn't it a joke?
They look so beautiful, every one of them.
Damn, your that desperate
@DankMemeArchive Corny lmao
Fake. They were slaves 😂 😂
cry about it@@JouMaSePoes82
@@rg1924 wrong
The story behind Dido Elizabeth Belle is fascinating. At the time of the painting in 1778, black people were only ever added to portraits unless they were kneeling below a white noble or showing some kind of submission towards them. Being bi racial Dido defintely didn't have things the easiest; but in the painting of her and her cousin Elizabeth Murray, she's standing up and while Elizabeth is sitting down. Signifying that Dido was quite literally above her in terms of status.
After her mother Maria Belle passed away while enslaved, her father Sir John Lindsay, (a British Naval officer) refused to let history repeat itself. She only met her father once, but he brought her on his ship to his uncle Lord Mansfield had him promise to raise her as a real lady with his wife. It's unknown if she ever knew her mother, but speculated that she didn't. John knew she had a right to a good life but also knew that with all of his duties, he wouldn't be able to take care of her in the way she needed. Lord Mansfield was one of the most powerful men in all of England besides the king, so this was a huge deal. She was John's heiress, and no one could argue with that.
The painting was commissioned by the higly successful artist David Martin. It's unknown if Dido picked out her own outfit to pay tribute to her heritage or if David chose the outifit to signify her high status, as what she's wearing can be seen in several of his other portraits of high ranking nobles. This was ground breaking as a person of color being portrayed in a positive, much less noble light, was non existent in any portraits of the time.
The painting was made in her honor and her great-uncle insisted it hang at his home (Kentwood) all the way up until his death. The painting is currently at Scone Palace in Scotland. She fought to abolish British slavery alongside Lord Mansfield because she thought that if she was special enough to be treated like a human being, her mother and other slaves should have the right to the same opportunity. She eventually settled down, got married and had kids, and lived a very comfortable life up until her death. Her last living decendant passed away in the 1970's.
The fact that we don't have a biopic for her yet is borderline criminal tbh. Her story is so fascinating and there could honestly be a movie franchise based on different events/eras of her life!
@@sourdropThere is one. Its called 'Belle'. It's a very touching film.
@@sourdrop there is a film called Belle. It’s been out for a few years now and it’s really good. It’s a film directed by a Ghanaian female film director too which makes it extra special
I watched this movie for the first time a few months ago. I can’t recall if it was on Netflix, Hulu or on a cable movie channel. I would highly recommend it.
“Belle” was an excellent movie!!
They look gorgeous. They're so composed and elegant. I wish we knew their stories.
The fourth image includes Dido Elizabeth Belle, her story is definitely out thereto learn, I liked Lindsay Holliday's video about her :)
Actually we do know some of them - one of them (the painting) is Dido Elizabeth Belle - first known black British aristocrat. She isn’t actually Victorian she’s Georgian but the eras are consecutive.
The woman in the 2nd and 5th photos is Sara Forbes Bonetta - she was a Yoruba princess called Aina who was taken captive and ‘gifted’ to Queen Victoria. She grew up to be quite accomplished but it was still awful what happened to her.
I thought you were gonna say I wish we had those today 😂
Yes, sadly, unlike now a day contemporaries liberals.
Read the comments. We do know quite a bit about these ladies.
The Second Lady was actually a princess from the Yoruba people. She was orphaned during a war with a neighboring kingdom and was rescued by an English sailor. After that Queen Victoria took her under her wing and called she became her godmother.
That's an amazing story 😭 her life was like a fantasy heroine's!
She was actually enslaved. When they found out that she was off royal blood the Queen took her in as her daughter. Got her a good husband and she died young from being sickly. The Queen says she was sick because she’s from the tropics and she was taken to the cold. She really loved her. When she was told of her death she had her buddy returned so she could be buried as a royal.
I read in another comment here that she was gifted to Victoria 🤨
And it's so weird that you would change the fact that she was enslaved and basically given away, with words like that she was saved, or that the queen took her under her wing...
@@patatav7780"Change?" Why are you being so vindictive that your first thought is that OP personally rewrote what they read to fit a racist narrative? Maybe that's what they read in their research! So quick to demonize someone.
All these beautiful black women should have been acknowledged in history. It feels like black people have always been portrayed like they NEVER had any privileges,wealth or stature. More of these facts should be in education. Time to broaden the wide history of black people. ❤❤
They present themselves as being strictly histories victims, don’t try and blame everyone else as usual. I’ve seen enough blacks find out this is their heritage,not slavery, and they fall into crying heaps, they want victimhood
Photography was relatively new and a lot of people didn’t trust it. In immediate post-Civil War America, racism wasn’t entirely systemic yet. Some areas welcomed black people and there were many all black communities. Tulsa, OK would become an economic hub, until the massacre. Cattle drive stops saw entire families drove herds, then stay a few years, then move on to settle their own farms in towns like Nicodemus, Kansas or build larger businesses that would be traded in the Tulsa markets. Then Jim Crow opened his stupid piehole and it got nasty. America has yet to fully recover.
@@kvbstudios316 but isn’t segregation what a lot of blacks push for today? There’s many examples
@@thatonethisone5904 I haven’t heard a single person today ask for segregation.
@@thatonethisone5904 don’t worry, there have been plenty of events that black people were the victims of in US history even wealthy POC. The Tulsa Race Massacre comes to mind.
The 4th picture is that of Dido Elizabeth Belle, who was the daughter of Sir John Lindsay. The painting is of her and her cousin Lady Elizabeth Murray. Dido Belle was the niece of Earl of Mansfield and Lord Chief Justice of England, William Murray, who adopted her.
They’re so pretty!
This is why we cannot allow our history to be erased by those looking to keep their political bases strong.
history was written by those who hanged heros.
The only people trying to erase or falsely re-write history are blacks and the blm movement. Liars and thugs.
@@magnus1001 ☝🏿😬😐👆🏻
and again for those in the back...
History was written by those who have hanged heros.
@@annedavis6090 Whatever imaginary tales you have to tell yourself to get to sleep at night.
@@magnus1001 I think you are very young, no sense of continuity...
It's so wonderful to see beautiful black women in the styles of the period and not mammy costumes they're absolutely gorgeous Victorian ladies
The funny thing I find about the mammy costume is that it was literally just working class clothes. I'm a reenactor and that's essentially what I wear, but as a mixed Native American and Anglo woman, nobody sees it the same way.
@@historybound9615
I don't think that there's anything funny about the caricatures. But I'm curious, did Tignon Laws apply to all working class women?
@@jojoone1099 there were sumptuary laws in place for all classes. Irish slaves of the period, for example, were restricted to certain lower grades of fabric, were not allowed certain head coverings, could not buy certain types of buttons, etc.
Middle class women of any color or nationality could still not buy certain grades of cloth and even certain colors were forbidden.
Mind you, I'm not a dress historian, my specialty lies in soap making and housekeeping practices so my knowledge is limited to practical experience. Working class clothes varied from one nationality and class to another and changed over time, but the typical mammy costume is simply working class wear. People only see it as such on a dark skinned body, on someone with a pale face, they stop seeing it that way.
All that means is that it's a perception that makes the clothes, not the clothes that make the perception.
@@historybound9615
Long answer for, "no."
@@historybound9615
One of the reasons the kerchief, rough shirt and apron is associated with m-mmies is that it has been a persistent trope in popular /culture for more than a hundred years. It began as a way of de-sexualizing and de-feminizing black women. Popular culture has cemented this trope in people's minds. More than a century of memorabilia, books, movies, TV shows, household items, etc. have presented M-mmy as being one of the archetypes associated with Black women.
Women of other ethnicities/nationalities have been represented in a multitude of ways in culture, art, and history --- Black women have not. There's nothing funny, amusing, or odd about that.
Beautiful-ladies and gowns very elegant love that era of gowns too❤
Beautiful, yes, but couldn't run, climb or much else for that matter. Too too restrictive
@@elsajones6325not even breath, the women in these dresses fainted frequently
@@elsajones6325 to be fair most people nowadays don't run, climb or practice physical activities daily and I don't see why they would at the time, men or women. If you just take strolls and sit all day long you don't need particularly comfortable clothes. The issue is some women took pride in having a small waist and would tighten their corset 'till they could barely breath.
@@Poppy-zm2yh all for the sake of vanity. Like high heels, and glues, adhesives for lashes, hair, nails and even bra pads.
Yeah
I loved the Victorian dresses!
Such beautiful women. Elegant and well dressed. ❤❤
The second photo and the fifth, looks like a young woman named Sarah.
Whose family came from Wealth, Out of Africa.
The story, has it that there was some type of tribal, war
of some sort going on and all of Sarah's family was killed her mother/father. She was the only living Survivor, that was rescued.
Prince Albert, was in Africa, at the time. He... rescued Sarah, and brought her back to England.
Where he and Queen Victoria, adopted her as well as her wealth that came along with her adoption.
She died of an illness at a relatively young age. Her story is still... interesting to do some research on.
This was the first story reported years ago. Now... the story seems to have changed a bit. Do your own research. If interested.
One thing for sure... Queen Victoria, did adopt Sarah.
Thank you for sharing.
Yes! Sarah was a lucky girl!!
The movie Out of Africa was not about her, though. Great movie (funny enough, I just re-watched it last night! One of my favorite movies!!)
you mean she was “gifted” to the queen? a human gift? you have a very naive way of interpreting history.
How do you adopt someone's wealth?
@@sparklemotion8377 I guess like Count Olaf did the Baudelaire children in Lemony Snicket.
@@tswain92_ Nobody saw count Olaf as the good guy, now did they?
The second woman image was part of the British Royal Family. She was adopted by the Queen mother and raised as her stepdaughter in the Royal Palace.
@HappyThife she had full royal privileges. The pocahontas story wasn't a fairly endding. She died young.
Fairy tale
@@HappyThifeNot the same at all. Amonute (nicknamed “Pocahontas”) was basically kidnapped to be made an example of, to justify cultural genocide.
Sara Forbes Bonetta was orphaned by war, enslaved, then given to Frederick E. Forbes as a “gift” for Victoria- ironically, during negotiations against the slave trade. Because of this (and also because it seemed she was likely from a background of some status), she was adopted & raised to be well-educated. She may have lived a life under much scrutiny, but by most accounts she lived a decent life for the time
She wasn’t part of the British royal family and she wasn’t adopted by Queen Victoria. The Queen sponsored her education and living cost. She was invited to visit the palace several times, but she was not formally adopted or considered a part of the family. Queen Victoria also sponsored her daughter’s education because Sarah died young in her mid 30s. Please be careful with spreading misinformation.
@Fey Rol she was a ward and goddaughter. As was customerary, she was a princess gifted to the Queen Mother. It was a political move, not a pity case. I get a hint of contempt in your wording. Did I challenge your sense supremacy?.
OMG the young black girl smelling the rose was absolutely gorgeous…just WO 👍🏻
I thought the same. Otherworldly beauty.
Yup, she is so pretty! We don’t know who she is?
The word is fantopopius look it up✨
hun that's not a word 😭
Not a real word. 👎 and Don't recommend.
In which dictionary? 😂
I looked it up. Nothing came up
@@daynawithawhy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Chile.. not him making up words!!
The second photograph is of Her Royal Highness Aina, a Yoruba Princess of the Egbado dynasty. Her parents were mudered by Ghezo of Dahomey, Benin/Togo after which she was sent to Queen Victoria.
Princess Aina, changed her name to Sarah after she was baptised, on her way to England. "Bonetta" was the name of the ship of captain Frederick Forbes, which was sent to rescue her, by the King.
Aina is a Yoruba name, given to children, born with an umbilical cord around their necks.
Queen Victoria was impressed by Aina's intelligence.
In 1862, she got married in a lavish wedding featuring ten carriages. She eventually settled in colonial Lagos, naming her first child Victoria with the Queen's blessing. When Sarah died of tuberculosis, aged just 37, the Queen wrote: “Saw poor Victoria Davies, my black godchild, who learnt this morning of the death of her dear mother.”
Aina en mallorquín significa Ana en español!
@@elenasaez4955 oh vaya, no sabia eso. Ana es un nombre hermoso. Te envío saludos, de parte de los Yorubas.
History should never be destroyed or forgotten. So of history is hurtful to see but your great grandchildren will appreciate the history. From slavery to the President. That's some history.
Just as long as you tell the WHOLE story, like who captured the people and sold them to slave traders, who then transported them around the world. And don't forget which countries ended slavery...which still exists in the middle east.
@@teresarenee3829 yeah I agree and don't forget any of the parts in the middle when they were raped killed and used for hard labor and tested on for medical research separated from their family's and culture beaten if they had education and the other parts where they claimed land that people were already on and then called it Columbus Day
Oh wow, I've never seen pictures like these including black people. Those women are so friggin gorgeous and so classy.
There are photos, they just aren’t being shown. I’ve seen a lot, and not just of women, entire families and towns all dressed up.
I wish in our textbooks at school we had these photos. I want black girls to see themselves in history not just as oppressed people but also as wealthy people and well dressed people, like they do showing the Europeans.
Black women don’t have to be dressed as Europeans to be wealthy and not oppressed. Why people don’t see African tribal traditions as good enough, and have to rest their hopes on maybe black people had some place in Europe I don’t understand. In these time periods nobody was oppressing black people. White people didn’t even make it into the interior of Africa for the slave trade that their own people sentenced them to. The capturing of other tribes to sell into slavery was done by Africans. And their cultures were flourishing at the rate they would if they had had no contact with other people groups. There were rulers and hierarchy, rich people for their cultural standards and less fortunate. They don’t have to be dressed in clothes from the west to be dignified or show status for their culture.
Obviously from reading comments, this video is inaccurate; however, it would be fabulous to incude the true stories of these women in history lessons.
I would love to hear their stories
U might be surprised. They may have not had it as ruff as u think. Maybe
There are plenty of diaries that survived. Klondike women. Mormon women's accounts of treking west. Texas tears and Texas sunshine
@Elsa Jones they weren't headed west I'd say. That's more like eastern
The sad fact is that whenever we are taught about black history it is always the story of slavery, oppression, and Jim Crow. It’s never EVER about those who weren’t oppressed and it presents the impression that every black person in a non-African context was always treated and lived as subhuman and enslaved. It’s never the stories of those that escaped oppression and were successful. And that’s what’s truly heartbreaking.
This is not me trying to say that learning about oppression is something we shouldn’t do. But in addition to tragedy, we need to give our flowers to people like the women in this video. People who despite biases, were able to succeed.
To be honest, black parents aren't doing nearly enough to pass down this history.
If we're calling people 'oppressors' then we can't expect them to teach us our own history.
There are no excuses in the age of Google.
That was intentional. They want us to feel lessor than them so that they will remain the dominant species. They will never teach you your story. Just HIStory.
Sorry, but your comment is horribly misinformed. Don't mistake success for not being oppressed. Oppression was the status quo for ALL black people - it merely varied in severity depending on region, and some black families were better insulated against oppression if they came from free blacks (which many middle class/wealth blacks did). Lots of these wealthy/middle class blacks WERE oppressed, and they would've been much more successful than they were if they had been white. They worked 10x harder to get half as far as they would have gotten if they were white. I have several successful/known ancestors in my family tree, including a long line of free blacks, but they were all impacted/stunted by racism. That was something none of them could escape.
@@anyaw340 I don’t think I’m denying that in my comment. All I’m saying is that perhaps in addition to learning only about slavery and horror, we can learn about those who “succeeded”/were able to “succeed” despite the horrible circumstances they encountered. Because I know many of my black classmates at school used to ask “so is that it? We only could be slaves and nothing else? Is there any black history without being in constant pain?” I know what you’re saying but you’ve really misconstrued my comment to be denying that racism and oppression didn’t exist. No. I’m asking that a more diverse and thorough history be taught when we get to learn about black history. Cause it really used to impact my classmates and peers.
Please don’t assume someone is ignorant or someone is malintentioned. It was very hurtful to read what you wrote cause it’s clear you didn’t think about the intention of my comment. It’s not me denying those awful factors. But asking for us to learn about those who were able to be of any amount of “success”. I’m a person of color too- I used to hate when the history of my people was taught at school because instead of talking about success stories, cool empires from the country, scientists, those that made contributions, all I got to hear was the oppressions, racism, poverty, starvation, and subjugation of my people. And bc of my parents, I used to bring up constantly that despite everything my people went through people still were able to have a come up, overcome, fight that oppression to find some success. Because only hearing that your people were put down and could never come up makes you think low of yourself (from my experience personally). It hurt as a child to constantly hear people call my people poor and pathetic. Just like it hurt my black classmates to hear others make jokes about enslavement, sharecropping, and more.
Misunderstanding and misconstruing someone trying to ask to learn a more nuanced history is not fair and extremely presumptive.
Looking at the stories of these women that isn't the case. One of them was sent back to Africa because she kept getting sick. She was sent as a pet to Queen Victoria who allowed her to be educated and brought up properly
I'm a latin woman .
Ever since elementary I remember my black girlfriends were always the best dressed . Even now my some of my coworkers have the most classy style of dressing .
That makes me happy.
And?? But most of them looking trashy too
Exactly. I cant stand his narrative as if we dodnt dress back then too. We did and DO. 😅
@@sazhidasamadihi. Friendly life hack # 2: love and respect other people. You don't want someone saying that about you or someone else in your stereotype classification.
Beautiful women. I wish we still took pride in our appearance.
Black women are beautiful people. They are and always have been envied for their physical bodies, their strength of character and warm, beautiful souls. Very special humans. Anything spoken against them is spoken out of jealousy. And ignorance.
There’s an amazing movie about one of these women. It’s called ‘Belle’ and she’s actually in one of the pictures you showed us.
The picture of bell and her cousin is hanging in a museum to this day ,I saw the movie i forget the name of the museum google it.
Amazing movie?
BBC propergander bullcrap
Such pretty dresses
“But first, a moment of silence..” *immediately continues talking*
Beautiful African women . Respectable n classy. ❤
Oh how they've changed 🤣
@@coodaytah6312still are much more than white women, but as the video said "depicted as animals.." true then and true now
@@coodaytah6312look who hasn't changed
Lame.
These are the women Netflix should be doing series about and that people should learn more about, and not changing the story of Cleopatra. There are many black women who deserve recognition, there's no need to be stealing other people's stories
Anyone interested in life of upperclass black people in antebellum America: Sketches of the Higher Classes of Colored Society in Philadelphia, first published in 1841, was written by Joseph Willson, a southern black man who had moved to Philadelphia
The girl in the portrait is actually from the late 1700s and her name was Dido. Her story is interesting
I once saw a movie about the "C" club.
It was about Black Girls AKA Debs, & their coming out parties. All of the Girls had to be no darker skinned than the color of a brown paper bag. I was in complete shock watching the movie; I wish I could remember its name.
Biracial women wanted to separate themselves from Blacks. Like they should.
Colorism against dark skinned women is clearly very accepted in the black community, and black race as a whole. Nothing new here…
@@tiredoftheworld4834
Maybe it is nothing new to the Black community but it was an absolute shocker to me.
@@dee_dee_place If only schools could educate people on African/black history 😅 History is doomed to repeat itself without education.
Yep, SHADE-ISM is REAL within the race. However, everyone and everything here is TEMPORARY and time never stands still. This Too Shall Pass 👏 👏 👏.
I have a photo of my great great grandmother in 1890s and her mother prior to her birth dressed liked this. 😊
Gosh, they're so pretty!!
I’m so thankful for our Gorgeous photo of Grandma Velvet she looks fabulous. Even my dad was talking about how few cameras black people had when he was growing up. Often lots of people joined in to take a large group photo together since it was such a rare privilege . 🙏🏽💖 God bless us all the best of times, provisions, love and happiness 💖🙏🏽
Wow, look at these beautiful women in their fabulous dresses
They look absolutely stunning in those dress
They are absolutely gorgeous women, I must say.
Women’s lives were tough back then, in general, but black women faced, and still face, perils that white women do not. As I looked at these pictures, I inevitably thought about the heartache and hardship these proud, beautiful women faced. May they all Rest In Power.
Put your victim card away.
@@cincin4515 it’s true bitch you just don’t wanna accept it
@@cincin4515 L + facts don’t care about your feelings snowflake
@@cincin4515when y’all give us reason to cracker
@@cincin4515 Can’t believe people can read things that are historically factual and then claim someone is “pulling a ___ card”. Quit being insensitive.
We should animate more historical photos like this, it makes them feel 3d without changing anything essential to the image
The history Channel has been doing this for years and years, on shows like ancient aliens( like when they are showing old pics or renaissance art for example)and many others. The FDR mini series that starts on memorial day most likely be like this as well. Last year their Teddy Roosevelt one did. It is cool I agree.
I want a well costumed historical movie about them right meow
there is one on Dido and Sarah
And the word "fantopopius" doesn't exist.
Yeah I looked it up too because I had never heard it. Turns out Google hasn’t either.
Neither Oxford nor Merriam Webster dictionaries have it either....
I was looking for this comment or was going to post it myself... Cannot find this word ANYWHERE! 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
Yeah, I came to find out what it means too
Does now! I fully intend to use it. We'll get it into your dictionaries eventually.
I enjoy looking at old photos, their style of dress and hairstyles.
I’m a black goth obsessed with the Victorian aesthetic. This was lovely to see this morning. ❤❤❤ I will research more. You would think all blacks were poor then.
One of the ladies had braided hair! Cool!😃 now I wanna find out if there were natural hairstyles for women back then.
women generally didn't wear natural hairstyles at the time, no matter the race.
@@aurablue368 what did they do
@@aurablue368 - some black women actually did. If you Google 'original Spelman students' you will see that many of the women do not have straightened hair.
@@aurablue368
What are you all on about "natural hairstyles". They aren't wearing wigs and they aren't using relaxers either so...???
They are so elegant
The girl smelling the flower is stunning!
One of those images is a self-portrait of a British photographer who is still alive! It's Heather Agyepong for her Reimag(in)ing The Victorians Series.
I personally love the clothing we wore in that Era ..❤
These are some of the most beautiful pictures I've seen from that era!! 😍😍😍
Thank you for shining a light on a different narrative.
Wow the Victorian women were beautiful
The girl with the flower was beautiful!
Why, because she's biracial?
Half black half white who cares she is beautiful ☺️🇨🇷
She reminds me of people in my family. Looks a bit like my grandmother. But she isn’t!
@@THE-id1by
You are a very sad individual.
Lovely photos (apart from the one where the subject is grimacing - not sure why). The rest are very elegant; thanks for uploading.
If “fantopopius” was a word, it would probably mean “an image/illusion like person of/belonging to the people.” The prefix “fanto” or “phanto” means illusion. The root word “pop” means people. The suffix “ius” means of or belonging to.
They were beautiful 🥰💞💕💕
No way
The colour of a person's skin does not determine their inner heart.
Do you think wp were or are worried about our inner hearts fck no
@@jadajadamoats5567 hearing that racist comment, I know your heart is ice cold. Either get a real personality or you’ll keep being treated the way you don’t want to be treated. All people within society live by this standard.
@PrivySmell look you have No idea what have. Idea or why I say or feel or animosity lying within sure I fine until that line is crossed
Ofc not. But unfornately the seeds of the slavery and segregation and slavery on a global scale is still sprouting and poisoning our society, we still have a lot of reforming to do. Reforming of the minds of our people. As the heart that is what these historical atrocities was about imprisoning the mind, to perpetuate ideas of subordination. For ultimate capitol gain. And it's prevalent to this day. Our political system, culture add the fucking British monarchy still exists, and it's tolerated why? In the same of capitol gain.
@@jadajadamoats5567Racist
Fantapopius? I cant even find a definition!
Lol me either
Look it up.
@@iconicfigures3289 I did… it’s not a word
Maybe it’s in the Victorian dictionary
I think it was supposed to be fabulous, but I have no idea😂
Thank you for showing these beautiful women.
They’re gorgeous 🥺🥺
BEAUTIFUL GORGEOUS STUNNING CLASSY ELEGANT ECT................💜
They look so beautiful!!!!😍😍😍
Not.like.you.
a history without racism would be so beautiful
Y sin guerras, sin cáncer, sin terrorismo...
Let me just say, depending on where these lovely women were located, it could have been.
Meanwhile Arthur Conan Doyle wrote about them like just- people, which is really refreshing
So in love with their gorgeous dresses. ❤❤❤❤
Gorgeous ladies! I wanna know more about this. This needs to be seen. Thanks so much for sharing these! 💖💖💖
Beautiful pictures. Thanks. But in truth very few people get a good life without strings attached.
Black people depicted as animals??? That's horrible!
These women look so beautiful. I dream of the day where people only see the person in front of them and not a colour. 🙏❤
Don't believe everything you hear on RUclips. He's clearly saying one thing while showing you the dead opposite. Use your brain for deduction instead of reaction. Your eyes are not lying to you as he says.
Don't forget the zoos of black people. Black people were considered livestock during slavery; until the south needed more political influence and made black people 3/4 of a person to boost their population for more influence in congress.
@@cincin4515 Black and African people were depicted as animals back then, dunce. They weren’t even considered human they were considered livestock and savages. The 3/5ths rule ring a bell? Probably not. Go look up human zoos and the story of Ota Benga. Go look at cartoon and minstrel depictions of black people at that time. Go look up Sarah Baartman. There’s a reason these are rare pictures. You have the knowledge of the world at your fingers and you’re too busy sticking them in your ears what a waste.
@@cincin4515 they’re were zoos with black people in fences and black people were portrayed as animals in caricatures so the narrator isn’t really wrong.
Thank you for showing this. I’m sick of their narrative. I love it and they are beautiful and it’s awesome.🙏🏽❤️
Can I just say that I really appreciate the reverence and respect you had for these woman in the voice over. So often videos talk about these very real people as if they're sensationalized characters with little to no respect for their struggle. Loved this video, thank you for sharing❤
I remember reading a Fictional based on facts by Anne Rice called FEAST OF ALL SAINTS. About the gens de couleur libres who lived in New Orleans before the Civil War…. It was insightful and interesting…. I spent my life going to Louisiana to work and saw a lot of New Orleans..we lived near, 30 minutes away from the French Quarters.
ALL women from every era are beautiful
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We are not talking about all women, Karen. This is about black women.
Lmao??? Triggered much?
What? What a ridiculous claim! No, not all women are beautiful. Some are very, very ugly in fact 😂😂
Thank you for the photos. My grandparents on both sides immigrated in the early 1900's so my family does not have that sin of slavery. Thank god. If I was alive back then I am sure I would have partook in the Underground Railroad.
Me too
These women are beautiful.
They are so pretty 💗😍
Please can we get a list of these people ? I would like to read more about them
They were super duper fly. Just naturally beautiful for no reason. 🥰
Really guess what their were wealthy blacks ... uhm and they were often slave traders not being hateful .. it's just basic easily found in history books
YEP! We were the major trade, commerce and growth of all economic stability during that era. As for those "strings that were attached" to these black Victorian sistas', it was selling out from the comforts of black men; which explains the nature of MOST; IF NOT ALL, of our African American women against us Black American men today.
They sold those black men out for privileges... just like ours today with the government.
Do N'Joy your Day and Nite'. 😑
Blacks??
@@iamabsolution95 so let me guess black American men don't sell us out? They don't choose white women over us? Then turn around and down us? The same women who raised them? Ill wait....
@@latikireese1219 Good, keep waiting....🤨
"blacks" and you have a anime pfp LMAO bozo
BEAUTIFUL I would like to see more books on this!!🤎🤎🤎💕
These women are ridiculously gorgeous as well
We need more of this
When it comes to the Ladies of High Society- the higher up, all the more strings attached. All Women of all Colors were objects that were owned
Misinformation
Because you say so miss informed?
Understood, however in this particular video we’re acknowledging black women. Not sure why people always bring in the “ all people “ argument when it pertains specifically to black people.
@@synnavibez183 my comment was an honest response to my feeling that it is a Woman thing- not a Black Woman thing
@@andiemarie5160 Valid, can’t argue w that
I think that pretty much went for all women regardless their skin color in those days. Not to mention that some of the wealthiest slave owners were black themselves , who owned both black and white slaves.
What a gorgeous array of ladies ….WOW!
I love you’re facts
Thanks ❤️
Your welcome 🙃
Fantopopius is not a word in English.
I was wondering if it was slang 🤷🏻♀️
All of them deserve respect
You made that one word up.
The creator of this video has quite literally copied everything in this video from an article titled “27 Rarely Seen Photos Of ‘High-Society’ Black Women During The Victorian Era”. Everything that was said in this video can be found written verbatim in that article, the only part that he didn’t steal and actually made up himself was “firstly a moment of silence for these fantopopius women” which is probably why it’s the only unintelligible part of the video. I’m guessing perhaps English is not the video creator’s first language? Either way, in the heading of the article they describe the women in the photos as - “Educators, artists, debutants, and *philanthropists* “
I believe this is where he got fantopopius from, as it is the closest match I could find in the article and it appears numerous times throughout the article as well as in the main heading… the only other word in the article that is remotely similar is “fantastical” which only appears once. I personally think he was aiming for philanthropists as it sounds more like fantopopius than fantastical does, and also if you asked a 1 year old to “repeat after me… philanthropist”, they would almost certainly reply with “fantopopius”.
Hope this helps 🙏
@@0mnom So basically… he made that word up
@@sharktiff1 well sort of, i don’t think he made it up out of thin air, I think he was actually trying to say something but failed miserably 😂
Who is the woman making a contorted facial expression? Does anyone know the back story?
Don’t forget about the placage era😢
Can we celebrate black history without bringing up racism and slavery? These women looked great. Leave it at that. Damn! 🤦🏽♀️